Renault F1 GUILTY for Singapore 2008. [Archive]

Ponty

04-09-2009, 05:38 PM

Before anyone asks... I've no idea... but it seems absurd. There's obviously some evidence of it though but if it's just NP talking then that's not conclusive IMO.

Baj

04-09-2009, 06:22 PM

Good, Renault are a bunch of clueless ****s that expect you to stop all other work just for them.

yes yes, based on your tea boy time on work experience, run along back to TMS now...

Arizona

04-09-2009, 06:37 PM

When I was at Spa, I'd have said Renault were the 2nd beest supported team there, which surprised me slightly. Whether this is the norm or it was just because of the proximity to France I don't know.

J Bizzle

04-09-2009, 08:22 PM

yes yes, based on your tea boy time on work experience, run along back to TMS now...

Never had to do work experience, it's a state school thing. I wasn't there for the final decision, but know what it was.

Saint in Paradise

04-09-2009, 08:37 PM

J Bizzle

04-09-2009, 09:53 PM

31-08-2009, 03:40 AM
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Renault are a bunch of cvnts. I know having sat...

Renault are a bunch of cvnts. I know having sat in on a deal with them on work experience.

Was put down as work experience on my CV for uni, but wasn't actually work experience as it was my summer job.

Baj

04-09-2009, 10:17 PM

Was put down as work experience on my CV for uni, but wasn't actually work experience as it was my summer job.

Lol. so why would you say 'work experience' instead of 'summer job'. you arse

J Bizzle

04-09-2009, 10:20 PM

Lol. so why would you say 'work experience' instead of 'summer job'. you arse

Because thats what I had to refer it to, just like this summer after coming back from Beefa i've been working as a purchaser, but that has to go down on my CV as work experience. It's stupid I knwo, but it's what the uni wants.

Arizona

05-09-2009, 10:04 AM

Ah, but this isn't your CV or your university (unless you're going to ask Baj and Ponty for a character reference).

Baj

05-09-2009, 11:19 AM

Ah, but this isn't your CV or your university (unless you're going to ask Baj and Ponty for a character reference).

A university that asks to see a CV? I've heard it all now!

Rattlehead

05-09-2009, 12:27 PM

Was put down as work experience on my CV for uni, but wasn't actually work experience as it was my summer job.

You aren't seriously going to university are you? You seem way too thick for that, but then nothing surprises me in this day and age.

If accepted, which would be a remarkable achievement and one worthy of sincere congratulations for a retard, what will you be 'studying'? BSc (Hons) Illiteracy? BA (Hons) Being a thick c*nt?

It beggars belief, it really does.

Bexy

12-09-2009, 02:04 PM

The plot thickens....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8250436.stm

hugh

15-09-2009, 06:55 PM

This is increasingly looking like "get Briatore"

The Times today (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6834552.ece)

So, Piquet has immunity, Symonds has immunity and Briatore ........?

St Landrew

15-09-2009, 09:45 PM

I think it comes to something when the off-track news within F1 involves more interest than the racing.

chrisobee

16-09-2009, 11:01 AM

A university that asks to see a CV? I've heard it all now!

Now, now, there's always a first time for everything ;)

Um Bongo

16-09-2009, 11:14 AM

Breaking News - flavio Briatore and Pat Simmonds have left the team.

Renault will also not dispute the allegations made! so looks like it was true.

Pancake

16-09-2009, 11:25 AM

FORMULA 1:

Renault accept guilt in Singapore race-fix row; boss Flavio Briatore leaves the team

Baj

16-09-2009, 11:31 AM

Holy ****!!!! Just seen it on the breaking news on BBC....

Hatch

16-09-2009, 11:37 AM

Need Ponty to fill us in on the details...

Julian H. Cope

16-09-2009, 11:58 AM

Nelson Piquet Jr's written statement to FIA. http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17075&Itemid=219

Oh dear. That stupid fat perma-tanned tw*t.

the stain

16-09-2009, 12:04 PM

Need Ponty to fill us in on the details...

I'd imagine he'll be a little bit busy just now...

Baj

16-09-2009, 12:07 PM

Interestingly, I sat and worked out if Renault were disqualified and (if) they readjusted the points scoring for the season (which of course they wont do) if lewis would still be champion.

As it happens, Lewis would have finished on 104 points, and Massa on ....102,

there's 5 minutes of my life ill never get back

Ponty

16-09-2009, 12:08 PM

You wasted your time there, Baj, the season cannot be adjusted after November 30th of that year.

PS. There's a couple of jobs going here, if anyone's interested.

Hatch

16-09-2009, 12:10 PM

You wasted your time there, Baj, the season cannot be adjusted after November 30th of that year.

PS. There's a couple of jobs going here, if anyone's interested.

Dean Richards is looking for work.

Post-it note

16-09-2009, 12:13 PM

Ponty was in on it

Julian H. Cope

16-09-2009, 12:15 PM

You wasted your time there, Baj, the season cannot be adjusted after November 30th of that year.

PS. There's a couple of jobs going here, if anyone's interested.

Seroiusly though Ponty, what does Briatore know about cars. F*ck all I suspect. Formula 1 will be a better place without him.

P.S. - I hope that everything works out ok for you though.xx

Baj

16-09-2009, 12:16 PM

You wasted your time there, Baj, the season cannot be adjusted after November 30th of that year.

PS. There's a couple of jobs going here, if anyone's interested.
I know, hence why I said

(if) they readjusted the points scoring for the season (which of course they wont do)

It was curiosity

Ponty

16-09-2009, 12:17 PM

Thanks, Copey.

Briatore knows a hell of a lot about money, and that's the most important thing in Formula 1.

Julian H. Cope

16-09-2009, 12:34 PM

Thanks, Copey.

Briatore knows a hell of a lot about money, and that's the most important thing in Formula 1.

If that's the case then why is he p*ssing it away on a poxy west London football team?

At least he'll have more time to schmooze the glitterati at his sh*t hole of a stadium. They love him at Loftus Road I'm sure.

saint lard

16-09-2009, 12:38 PM

Briotore and Symonds quit,and won't dispute charges against the team.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/16/ap/sportsline/main5314581.shtml

Pancake

16-09-2009, 12:40 PM

Briotore and Symonds quit,and won't dispute charges against the team.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/16/ap/sportsline/main5314581.shtml

On the ball there lard.

saint lard

16-09-2009, 12:40 PM

And the official statement from Renault.....

http://www.ing-renaultf1.com/en/_2009/team/index.php#/team/newsdesk/communiques/22335/

bungle

16-09-2009, 12:43 PM

lol. I actually think they should be banned for the whole of next season, but obviously that would affect a number of people who have done nothing wrong, and knew nothing of this plot which was only constructed at the highest level.

But deliberate cheating must be punished very strictly. This is no different to drug use in cycling, which has seen whole teams banned in the past, even when just one rider used an illegal drug.

Ponty

16-09-2009, 12:51 PM

:smt089

Julian H. Cope

16-09-2009, 12:55 PM

:smt089

Cheer yourself up with some drugs.

Hatch

16-09-2009, 01:01 PM

At least he'll have more time to schmooze the glitterati at his sh*t hole of a stadium. They love him at Loftus Road I'm sure.

My , in-the-know, QPR supporting mate thinks he is leaving QPR as well...

Hatch

16-09-2009, 01:07 PM

Just checked back thru my statements, I backed Alonso to win that race and won £150!!

I love renault...

Pancake

16-09-2009, 01:44 PM

"Betting Scam - A New Twist In Renault Race Fix Saga.

It emerged today that a messageboard poster who won £150 on Alonso winning the Singapoe 2008 F1 GP has, in the past, spoken on line to an employee of Renualt F1 who may or may not spoken to Symonds, Piquet, Briatore or Alonso in the past.

Further investigation has also linked the poster to a QPR supporter; QPR being the team that Briatore co-owns with Midget Bernie and some steel bloke.

More to follow...."

Post-it note

16-09-2009, 02:05 PM

The FIA will be requesting records of PMs between Hatch and Ponty

Saint George

16-09-2009, 04:10 PM

F1 is nothing but a disgusting sess pit from top to bottom......I can't believe I spent so much time and money following such a corrupt institution for so long back in the 70's and 80's..Thank god for Ferrari, who with the help of the FIA took cheating and curruption to such new and blatant levels that even the most commited fans could no longer live in denial

most suprising thing is that anyone still calls it a 'sport'

surrey1saint

16-09-2009, 04:56 PM

As a F1 fan since I was a kid(a long time ago) I am absolutly sickened by this latest news re Renault.
F1 has sunk to an all time low...FFS where now for F1??

Saint in Paradise

16-09-2009, 06:15 PM

Once again very high paid management stuff up and much lower paid workers are the ones who may
get stuffed financially. :mad:

Good Luck to Ponty and his innocent mates.

.

Colinjb

16-09-2009, 07:43 PM

http://i32.tinypic.com/22i49d.jpg

The team will have the book thrown at it, and typically, those who made the devisive call have already walked away.

I echo S.i.p's comment. All the best to the employees.

Saint_Jonny

16-09-2009, 07:49 PM

I love F1, the build up, the racing, the excitement on race day, but the last 2 years have been nothing but a farcical sham that puts even SFC into the black. What a load of ****. Dunno how F1 will ever regain its stature now.

DrZuess1979 the 2nd

16-09-2009, 09:18 PM

You wasted your time there, Baj, the season cannot be adjusted after November 30th of that year.

PS. There's a couple of jobs going here, if anyone's interested.

Hell yes doing what ????

Ponty

16-09-2009, 09:20 PM

Erm... Team Principal and Executive Director of Engineering. Have you not seen any news today?

DrZuess1979 the 2nd

16-09-2009, 09:21 PM

Erm... Team Principal and Executive Director of Engineering. Have you not seen any news today?

Ow I see lol

:rolleyes:

Colinjb

16-09-2009, 09:23 PM

Erm... Team Principal and Executive Director of Engineering. Have you not seen any news today?

Well, on the bright side, if you fancy going for a promotion.....

Silver linings etc.

Wiltshire Saint

16-09-2009, 10:56 PM

There's nothing more I like than F1. I love watching cars go round and round and now Ponty has ruined it all.

Nice one Ponty.

TopGun

17-09-2009, 08:43 AM

I can see Renault selling up to a new owner.

Manuel

17-09-2009, 12:49 PM

They should be forced to drive Clios round the track for a season.

OttawaSaint

17-09-2009, 03:09 PM

I reckon they should have Papa and Nichole drive for them next year as punishment...

Pancake

17-09-2009, 03:16 PM

I reckon they should have Papa and Nichole drive for them next year as punishment...

FFS, We've just got his clearance to play and you want to send him off to race ****ing cars?

Michelle

17-09-2009, 05:38 PM

FFS, We've just got his clearance to play and you want to send him off to race ****ing cars?

Just send Thierry Henry instead. Sorted.

Colinjb

17-09-2009, 05:41 PM

Just send Thierry Henry instead. Sorted.

Would recommend we send Pulis, but even Renault wouldn't have him, they at least need someone who can take corners.

Michelle

17-09-2009, 10:39 PM

Would recommend we send Pulis, but even Renault wouldn't have him, they at least need someone who can take corners.

That takes Lallana out of the running as well then. I'm sure he'll be devastated.

Jimmy_D

21-09-2009, 10:48 AM

hm, looks like they're expecting a suspended ban...

With a bit of luck, Briatore quitting might just have saved your job Ponty.

Ponty

21-09-2009, 12:10 PM

Yep, suspended ban, until the end of the 2011 season. Thank fewk for that. Let's not be too quick to thank Flav though, he put us there in the first place.

All in all, PHEW!

Baj

21-09-2009, 12:25 PM

Yep, suspended ban, until the end of the 2011 season. Thank fewk for that. Let's not be too quick to thank Flav though, he put us there in the first place.

All in all, PHEW!

Probably a fair result all in all. Those that weren't involved (Ponty and all the other F1 Renault employess) get to carry on, and a **** storm has been brought down on the culprits. LOL at falvio's FIA unlimited ban, haha, av' it.

Ponty

21-09-2009, 12:37 PM

That ban for Flavio's going to have some massive implications. Several drivers now need a new manager, GP2 and GP3 have lost a major benefactor, QPR will lose an owner, so that Superleague formula racing series will lose a team, in QPR.

Baj

21-09-2009, 12:43 PM

why will QPR lose an owner?

Ponty

21-09-2009, 12:56 PM

Isn't there an FA regulation that a team owner may not be banned as a director,etc. from any other sport? I'm sure I've read that on some motorsports sites these last 2 weeks.

stevegrant

21-09-2009, 01:07 PM

Isn't there an FA regulation that a team owner may not be banned as a director,etc. from any other sport? I'm sure I've read that on some motorsports sites these last 2 weeks.
Yep, it's covered in the fit and proper persons test.

Julian H. Cope

21-09-2009, 01:09 PM

Yep, it's covered in the fit and proper persons test.

So Gaydamak wasn't dodgy after all then?:rolleyes:

Saint_Jonny

21-09-2009, 07:56 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/q/qpr/8260661.stm

Ponty

21-09-2009, 08:08 PM

And so the knock on effects begin...

Saint Paul C

22-09-2009, 05:26 AM

Looks like Renault have been given a fairly light rap on the knuckles over the cheating affair which is much worse than spygate and the massive penalty handed out to McLaren IMHO.

Just how dodgy is Alonso looking in this yet again. I used to be a fan of his but its just not a coincidence that there seems to be cheating and scandal all around him.

God alone knows what will happen to F1 when he moves to Ferrari next season.

Ponty

22-09-2009, 07:07 AM

There was no reason for Alonso to be made aware of the plot. In fact, logic dictates that he'd have been kept in the dark as the reasons behind the incident are quite well documented now; Renault undecided about continuing to back the team, ING about to pull out because the profile was dropping without any wins and Alonso contemplating a move to another team due to bad results. To retain his services there would have been little point in telling him anything.

That's just my opinion though.

OLYMPIC

22-09-2009, 10:55 AM

Ponty

22-09-2009, 12:07 PM

I think it's the McLaren case that skews the parity, tbh. That was way over the top, but then the team, from the top down, lied time and time again during that case.

Post-it note

22-09-2009, 12:07 PM

Although i wouldn't want to see Renault get kicked out of F1 they do seem to of got off lightly in this case.Now i know some will disagree but Mclaren get hit with a massive fine for stealing a few secrets which i'm sure most teams do to some degree,but Renault get caught after cheating in such a way that it could of caused death or injury to an inocent bystander and they get what amounts to a slap on the wrist and told not to be naughty again.
This has to be one of the many reasons why F1 really can't be taken serious anymore it's punishment has no parity from one case to another.

Its the same in races. Sometimes in one race a driver will be penalised for something but in another race another driver will commit the same offence and recieve a totally different penalty! Theres no consistency (much like referees decisions in football!)

Arizona

22-09-2009, 12:09 PM

Would have laughed my a*se off if Nelson had crashed in such a way that it DIDN'T bring out the safety car.

Bexy

22-09-2009, 01:07 PM

Would have laughed my a*se off if Nelson had crashed in such a way that it DIDN'T bring out the safety car.

Not much chance of that on a street circuit surrounded by concrete walls.

Arizona

22-09-2009, 01:18 PM

Not much chance of that on a street circuit surrounded by concrete walls.

I know, but if I'm thinking of the righ crash, Nelson's car came to a stop on te inside of the exit from a corner, off the racing line. If it wasn't for the debris I reckon double waved yellers could have done it.

Anyway, didn't Kimi crash at the end of that race without bring out the SC?

Ponty

22-09-2009, 05:20 PM

The need for a safety car on that circuit was wholly determined by the positioning of the cranes outside of the barriers. There was no crane at turn 17.

Ponty

22-09-2009, 06:22 PM

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wmsc/2009/Pages/wmsc_220909_docs.aspx

If anyone's got way too much time on their hands. Nice to see a plea for leniency from Sir Frank Williams there though.

Saint in Paradise

23-09-2009, 01:50 AM

I wonder who "witness X" is ? I wonder if it is Alonso ?

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/motorsport/news/article/-/6090246/witness-x-sealed-briatores-f1-exit

Ponty

23-09-2009, 06:38 AM

No, that doesn't really stack up.

Post-it note

23-09-2009, 07:04 AM

I wonder who "witness X" is ? I wonder if it is Alonso ?

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/motorsport/news/article/-/6090246/witness-x-sealed-briatores-f1-exit

Its ponty

Hatch

23-09-2009, 09:53 AM

Ponty , how long have the staff known at Renault, surely they must have been suspicious all the way back to last year..

Arizona

23-09-2009, 11:48 AM

The need for a safety car on that circuit was wholly determined by the positioning of the cranes outside of the barriers. There was no crane at turn 17.

Ah ok, that explains it. Still would have been funny though, if Nelson couldn't even crash properly. I can just imagine him 5 minutes later stood the other side of the barrier pouring a barrel of oil onto the track.

Ponty

23-09-2009, 12:07 PM

Ponty , how long have the staff known at Renault, surely they must have been suspicious all the way back to last year..
No one was "suspicious" as far as I'm aware. Everyone joked about it at the time and decided that if Piquet had meant to crash at turn 17 on lap 14 he'd have probably managed to do it at turn 14 on lap 17. Remember, this guy crashed 17 times whilst driving for us - it really wasn't that weird.

Post-it note

23-09-2009, 12:55 PM

No one was "suspicious" as far as I'm aware. Everyone joked about it at the time and decided that if Piquet had meant to crash at turn 17 on lap 14 he'd have probably managed to do it at turn 14 on lap 17. Remember, this guy crashed 17 times whilst driving for us - it really wasn't that weird.

How many more were team orders?

Ponty

24-09-2009, 06:28 PM

http://www.direktbroker.de/news-kurse/printarticle/International-News/Print/20538952

Eek.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090924174619.shtml

Another, slightly lesser, eek.

Colinjb

24-09-2009, 08:42 PM

http://www.direktbroker.de/news-kurse/printarticle/International-News/Print/20538952

Eek.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090924174619.shtml

Another, slightly lesser, eek.

So, you no longer have to carry that abominable livery!?

Ponty

24-09-2009, 08:58 PM

I've no idea whether they'll pay to get them repainted, but essentially no. We'll have the livery but without the ING logos in Singapore, that's for certain.

Ponty

24-09-2009, 08:58 PM

Almost certain.

Post-it note

25-09-2009, 09:24 AM

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46440000/jpg/_46440307_renaultnoing.jpg

Somebody needs to start a 'Singapore GP' fred.

Thedelldays

25-09-2009, 10:16 AM

Somebody needs to start a 'Singapore GP' fred.
pay up the £5 you cheapo

Ponty

05-10-2009, 09:51 PM

This is NPjr's new drive, in the NASCAR truck championship in the USA.

http://img.infocoches.com/img/toyota/2004-Tundra_NASCAR_Craftsman_Series_Truck/toyota_2004-Tundra_NASCAR_Craftsman_Series_Truck-011_2.jpg

Congratulations.

bungle

06-10-2009, 11:09 AM

I like the truck series, some decent racing. He has probably not done that style of racing before, so a year in trucks, then up to the Nationwide Series and then we might see him in the Sprint Cup in 3 or 4 years.

Montoya is still in with a great chance of winning the NASCAR Sprint Cup this season, in only his second year.

Colinjb

06-10-2009, 03:46 PM