It never was paul allen(Takeover thread 1866)

[AwaySaint1]

Was chatting with a friend who works in London this afternoon and he informed me that it never was paul allen who was interested in us but the guy who purchased a major amount of his Dreamworks stock,hence the confusion.

The guy who was not named is looking at a ccc club and a first division club.

I pushed a bit more to get him to name the 2 clubs concerned,"us plus Leeds united"(so he says).

So who is it? are we being taken over by Spielberg?

Come on "ITKers" I thought we could rely on you.

[Toomer]

Here we go, here we go, here we go.

[Wade Garrett]

'Alan Shearers Red and White army'

All IMHO of course.

[Master Bates]

Anybody got a spare straw?

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Here we go, here we go, here we go.

Or, as The Chairman Of The Board sang, "You've got me dangling on a string"

[Master Bates]

Jeffrey Katzenberg &/ David Geffen

[Toomer]

Or, as The Chairman Of The Board sang, "You've got me dangling on a string"

And I can't let go.

[brmbrm]

Thought the rules were you can't own 2 clubs.if so, does this mean its all a load of ******?

[stevegrant]

Thought the rules were you can't own 2 clubs.if so, does this mean its all a load of ******?
I would imagine the OP meant that whoever this mystery person(s) is, is looking at two clubs and may or may not make a move to buy one or the other.

Personally, I think it's all a load of rubbish.

[FMPR]

I must be the only billionaire who doesnt want to bye a football club

[tombletomble]

Was chatting with a friend who works in London this afternoon and he informed me that it never was paul allen who was interested in us but the guy who purchased a major amount of his Dreamworks stock,hence the confusion.

The guy who was not named is looking at a ccc club and a first division club.

I pushed a bit more to get him to name the 2 clubs concerned,"us plus Leeds united"(so he says).

So who is it? are we being taken over by Spielberg?

Come on "ITKers" I thought we could rely on you.

I would say no.

Is there really any need for threads like this. I know that I could just not reply but was hoping that with the new forum we wouldn't have to go through this again.

If we get taken over and given loads of cash, great. Until then, lets all ry and concentrate on whats important, the new season that is only a few days away.

[thegaffer]

I must be the only billionaire who doesnt want to bye a football club
you must be the only billionaire who cant spell

[Leicestersaint]

you must be the only billionaire who cant spell

I know lots of billionaires who can't spelle.

[Roman]

I know lots of billionaires who can't spelle.

We need the ones who can't count.

[puff the magic dragon]

Under the alias of SaintMarc a certain person posted this:

FWIW I heard that Wilde resigned because there was too much media and fan pressure focusing on the investment issue and that this was putting the whole Board under pressure. He resigned to take the heat off the club and its executives and allow them to get on with the job while he carried on working on the investment issue in the background and out of the spotlight. The statement that he resigned because of a failure to raise finance was only issued to try and reduce fans unrealistic expectations. IMO, it was through Wilde's efforts, that PA was clearly aware that his approach would be welcomed rather than shunned and this is a big factor when looking at a potential acquisition. We now know that PA had contact with the club several months ago, before MW's resignation. IMO it is down to Wilde that we now have this opportunity to stabilise and secure the long term future of the club. If this takeover goes through I think we all owe him bigtime.

Many of you know who Saintmarc is and therefore what i've highlighted in bold contradicts the original poster.

[pedg]

We now know that PA had contact with the club several months ago, before MW's resignation.

Many of you know who Saintmarc is and therefore what i've highlighted in bold contradicts the original poster.

I think that needs to read We now know that someone claiming to represent PA had contact with the club several months ago. I am sure at the time there were those, prime example being crouch, who were convinced this was a legitimate approach by PA and I think it took a long while for some to be convinced it was not.

[Dog]

I heard it was Morgan Freeman.

[Scudamore]

you must be the only billionaire who cant spell

Richard Branson is dyslexic. True story...

[Roman]

Many of you know who Saintmarc is and therefore what i've highlighted in bold contradicts the original poster.

I'm afraid this, in turn, is contradicted by an explicit statement by Jim Hone that 'intermediaries' purporting to represent PA had contacted the club, but that when the board investigated these people's actual links with PA, there was no evidence whatsoever that they existed.

tommac bigged himself up on here by claiming he was one of those intermediaries, and claimed to have PA's personal phone number. Make of that what you will.

[OldNick]

you could say as in Thunderbirds 'All systems are go'

IMHO
of course

[Thedelldays]

tommac was a legend

[benjii]

Is a yacht involved?

[Professor]

Of all the teams in England not yet in private hands, why should any passing billionaire pick Southampton?

[SB]

you could say as in Thunderbirds 'All systems are go'

IMHO
of course

C’mon Nick spill..

Unlike you to Bullsh1t..

[Pongo]

Of all the teams in England not yet in private hands, why should any passing billionaire pick Southampton?

True. Philanthropists are very rare and usually have tie to the team they invest in. Jack Walker and John Haywood spring to mind.

On the other hand a millionnaire or a consortium buying us is realistic.

The big problem is the amount the likes of Lowe and Wilde want for their shares. What's good for SFC comes second to whats good for Lowe.

[Saint In Exile]

I must be the only billionaire who doesnt want to bye a football club

Why would you when yours is already owned by son of gunrunner??

[OldNick]

C’mon Nick spill..

Unlike you to Bullsh1t..if only you had paid your fiver you might have got a PM.

[SB]

if only you had paid your fiver you might have got a PM.

Oh you tease..

Well fingers crossed.

[tiger]

you could say as in Thunderbirds 'All systems are go'

IMHO
of course

Am I about to be vindicated NickH - you seem to know something?

[Saint in Paradise]

I think the original poster posted this so that it would be a test of the new sites ability
to handle a great deal of traffic as this will now probably run into about 25 pages :(

[OldNick]

Oh you tease..

Well fingers crossed.Rumours and counter rumours, only the people buying / selling or lending really know whats happening.
We have been here before and as you say fingers crossed things will turn out right.in a funny way I'll be disappointed as the kids are inspiring the fanbase and IF something does transpire the new people may want to do it differently.

[OldNick]

Am I about to be vindicated NickH - you seem to know something?The rumour may of come from your initial rumour Tiger, you know how these chinese whispers start.
Lets just think about the exciting football the kids are going to bring to us.

[Bakovnetski]

C’mon Nick spill..

Unlike you to Bullsh1t..


Yeah, c'mon SB stump up your fiver you tight g*t.

[Weston Saint]

Rumours and counter rumours, only the people buying / selling or lending really know whats happening.
We have been here before and as you say fingers crossed things will turn out right.in a funny way I'll be disappointed as the kids are inspiring the fanbase and IF something does transpire the new people may want to do it differently.

This has been going on since May! Every time I have contact it seems we are one step away and expect next week! Some pretty conclusive evidence in the mix from very reliable people BUT every next week nothing happens.

Let's stay with what we have at present. Many of us seem upbeat without investment.

[SB]

Rumours and counter rumours, only the people buying / selling or lending really know whats happening.
We have been here before and as you say fingers crossed things will turn out right.in a funny way I'll be disappointed as the kids are inspiring the fanbase and IF something does transpire the new people may want to do it differently.

Hmm, interesting.

Last post, maybe I’ll see a cryptic post soon, All the best.

[Mole]

Am I about to be vindicated NickH - you seem to know something?

I don't know why, but unlike in the case of lifelongsaint, tommac, helpmerhonda etc etc, i actually did think you were ITK and not full of it.

I can't be bothered to check through your posts (lol they've gone anyway) so any chance of a summary of what you feel comfortable posting for all to see?

[Morph]

The guy who was not named is looking at a ccc club and a first division club.

So who is it? are we being taken over by Spielberg?

Come on "ITKers" I thought we could rely on you.

I'm sorry to bring you down, but I suspect that this was all a fabrication of a guy called Tommac.

All IMHO of course.

So where is Tommac now ?

Kind Regards


Morph

[saint lard]

I don't know why, but unlike in the case of lifelongsaint, tommac, helpmerhonda etc etc, i actually did think you were ITK and not full of it.

I can't be bothered to check through your posts (lol they've gone anyway) so any chance of a summary of what you feel comfortable posting for all to see?

Whatever we may think of them,along with others,they were great entertainment value.

[AwaySaint1]

Morph If you paid the £5 then you may of been included in the PM loop that I have been told is running regards who it is;)

[Mole]

Whatever we may think of them,along with others,they were great entertainment value.

tommac and helpmerhonda were amusing to a point, but i do feel sorry for Marc Jackson. The poor bloke lost shed loads of money for his efforts. He was just so unbelieveably stupid, but i still think he was genuine.

[bridge too far]

Morph If you paid the £5 then you may of been included in the PM loop that I have been told is running regards who it is;)

I've paid my fiver - can I be in the loop too please :)

[saint lard]

Morph If you paid the £5 then you may of been included in the PM loop that I have been told is running regards who it is;)

I've paid £5,but unfortunately i'm on "global ignore";)

[saint lard]

tommac and helpmerhonda were amusing to a point, but i do feel sorry for Marc Jackson. The poor bloke lost shed loads of money for his efforts. He was just so unbelieveably stupid, but i still think he was genuine.

Agreed.

[Delmary]

tommac and helpmerhonda were amusing to a point, but i do feel sorry for Marc Jackson. The poor bloke lost shed loads of money for his efforts. He was just so unbelieveably stupid, but i still think he was genuine.Life Long Milk paid a heavy price for his naivety and stupidity.

[Weston Saint]

LLS is still about. He reads this forum under a different name, was on this evening, but no longer posts.

Marc, if you read this give me a call.

St David is on under a different name as well i think. He does post but is too tight to pay his fiver ;)

[Saint Charlie]

LLS is still about. He reads this forum under a different name, was on this evening, but no longer posts.

Marc, if you read this give me a call.

St David is on under a different name as well i think. He does post but is too tight to pay his fiver ;)

The forum is all the better without their ramblings. All IMHO of course. Most so called ITK people are either too self involved or bitter towards the club about something or other.

Just like Euell, we are better off without...

[saint lard]

LLS is still about. He reads this forum under a different name, was on this evening, but no longer posts.

Marc, if you read this give me a call.

St David is on under a different name as well i think. He does post but is too tight to pay his fiver ;)

He's waiting for his one of his investors to release the funds,as he always stated the whole process is very "fluid".;)

[Mole1]

I always expect him to walk up th stairs on Dragons Den with Barry the briefcase.

[Delmary]

What's up with trousers? It's a new takeover thread and he hasn't responded. Are you ok trousers? ;)

[buctootim]

I've paid £5,but unfortunately i'm on "global ignore";)

I can PM you some made up tosh if you like.

[RoswellSaint]

LLS is still about. He reads this forum under a different name, was on this evening, but no longer posts.

Marc, if you read this give me a call.

St David is on under a different name as well i think. He does post but is too tight to pay his fiver ;)

Now you will start the guessing games as to what their new names are...

[Mole1]

Ticket Office was reading this thread earlier....

[saint lard]

I can PM you some made up tosh if you like.

I wouldn't expect anything else ;)

[OldNick]

Ticket Office was reading this thread earlier....
they must be bored if they have to read rumours and the other tripe we come up with.

[saint lard]

It would be quite ironic IF we were to finally get either substantial investment/takeover, and the persons in question wanted wholesale changes,just when it appears that a very small chink of light and possible upturn in optimism in some quarters maybe on the horizon.

[dubai_phil]

I'm sorry to bring you down, but I suspect that this was all a fabrication of a guy called Tommac.
All IMHO of course.

So where is Tommac now ?

Kind Regards


Morph

It wasn't

IMHO of course.

Will be good when Roman's tv series finally comes out

[trousers]

What's up with trousers? It's a new takeover thread and he hasn't responded. Are you ok trousers? ;)

Give me a chance - I do get out once in a blue moon.

So....what's happening then?

What has NEVER added up to me is that certain people keep 'pointing the finger' at Tommac and allege that he willfully misled a Public Limited Company, artificially doubling the share price in the process, and yet no sign of anyone being charged, arrested and tried for this so called deception. So....only logical conclusion is that PA must have been in the loop somewhere otherwise someone has broken the law and/or industry code of conduct....

WHICH IS IT? (FFS)

[trousers]

Now you will start the guessing games as to what their new names are...

LLS is/was Cherrypip

No idea who St D is masquerading as....'Trader' perhaps ?

[trousers]

Ticket Office was reading this thread earlier....

A user called 'Ticket Office' or the Ticket Office ?:rolleyes:

[Morph]

It wasn't

IMHO of course.

Will be good when Roman's tv series finally comes out

I stand corrected, and apologies to Tommac.

Interesting.

Kind Regards


Morph

[pedg]

Give me a chance - I do get out once in a blue moon.

So....what's happening then?

What has NEVER added up to me is that certain people keep 'pointing the finger' at Tommac and allege that he willfully misled a Public Limited Company, artificially doubling the share price in the process, and yet no sign of anyone being charged, arrested and tried for this so called deception. So....only logical conclusion is that PA must have been in the loop somewhere otherwise someone has broken the law and/or industry code of conduct....

WHICH IS IT? (FFS)

My feeling is that PA was not in the loop but that those involved at the club were too embarrassed to go to the relevant authorities and hold up their hands and admit they were duped.

[trousers]

My feeling is that PA was not in the loop but that those involved at the club were too embarrassed to go to the relevant authorities and hold up their hands and admit they were duped.

But wouldn't the 'relevant authorities' investigate a doubling of share price 'overnight' as 'potentially suspicious' regardless of whether the company in question brings it to their attention or not? Surely that's the whole remit of the Takeover Panel and the like.....they wouldn't be a very effective policing body if they relied on tip offs from the very company whose share activity they are duty bound to ensure is above board.....would they? Who knows? (indeed....who does know....?)

Either there has been 'wrong doing' or there hasn't.....perhaps I should give the old bill a call now to bring it to their attention? Unless of course PA, or his representatives, were in the loop all along....

cheers

[pedg]

But wouldn't the 'relevant authorities' investigate a doubling of share price 'overnight' as 'potentially suspicious' regardless of whether the company in question brings it to their attention or not? Surely that's the whole remit of the Takeover Panel and the like.....they wouldn't be a very effective policing body if they relied on tip offs from the very company whose share activity they are duty bound to ensure is above board.....would they? Who knows? (indeed....who does know....?)

Either there has been 'wrong doing' or there hasn't.....perhaps I should give the old bill a call now to bring it to their attention? Unless of course PA, or his representatives, were in the loop all along....

cheers

Who, indeed, knows?

I think the possible scenarios are:

1) It was an official approach from a PA representative with explicit permission to contact SLH.

2) It was an official approach by a PA representative who had a brief to go out and investigate possible investment options.

3) It was an approach by a PA representative but they were doing it without permission from on high.

4) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA who had links with one or more of his companies who was trying to make legitimate money if he could marry the two off.

5) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA but was just part of a con to drive the share price up.

6) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA who was in it just for a massive wind up.

Probably a lot more. Anyway you pay your money you take your choice...

[Trader]

LLS is/was Cherrypip

No idea who St D is masquerading as....'Trader' perhaps ?

Nope, not me

[CabbageFace]

It was Ghandhi and his inflatable wheelchair

[trousers]

Nope, not me

Ah....but if it was you, wouldn't you have posted the same reply to put me off the scent...? ;)

Can't catch wily old Trousers out that easily....

[Master Bates]

Ah....but if it was you, wouldn't you have posted the same reply to put me off the scent...? ;)

Can't catch wily old Trousers out that easily....

Has he been caught with his trousers down? http://i38.tinypic.com/kdo3cz.gif

[Fowllyd]

Who, indeed, knows?

I think the possible scenarios are:

1) It was an official approach from a PA representative with explicit permission to contact SLH.

2) It was an official approach by a PA representative who had a brief to go out and investigate possible investment options.

3) It was an approach by a PA representative but they were doing it without permission from on high.

4) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA who had links with one or more of his companies who was trying to make legitimate money if he could marry the two off.

5) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA but was just part of a con to drive the share price up.

6) It was an approach by someone claiming to work for PA who was in it just for a massive wind up.

Probably a lot more. Anyway you pay your money you take your choice...

Good summary. I reckon (4) is the most plausible explanation; none of the others stacks up as well to my mind. I think Tommac was always a middle man, hoping to make a tidy sum by brokering a deal. He believed he was closer to PA than he actually was, and bigged himself up no little, but in the end he was just a mass of hot air.

Can't see any serious skullduggery though - if the share price was being deliberately inflated, who actually benefited from this? None of the major shareholders sold significant quantities, and nobody else holds (or held) enough to make it worthwhile.

[Trader]

Ah....but if it was you, wouldn't you have posted the same reply to put me off the scent...? ;)

Can't catch wily old Trousers out that easily....

I can't argue with that impeccable logic.

But it's still not me.

[Victor]

Was chatting with a friend who works in London this afternoon and he informed me that it never was paul allen who was interested in us but the guy who purchased a major amount of his Dreamworks stock,hence the confusion.

The guy who was not named is looking at a ccc club and a first division club.

I pushed a bit more to get him to name the 2 clubs concerned,"us plus Leeds united"(so he says).

So who is it? are we being taken over by Spielberg?

Come on "ITKers" I thought we could rely on you.

Forgive me for asking what seems an obvious question, but what are you doing coming on here asking us the question that you should have asked your 'friend', and why, if he knew you were a Saints fan, did he not give you this information earlier rather than wait for you to bump in to him some 18months later?

Perhaps he's not a friend. Perhaps he knows ****all too.

[AwaySaint1]

Forgive me for asking what seems an obvious question, but what are you doing coming on here asking us the question that you should have asked your 'friend', and why, if he knew you were a Saints fan, did he not give you this information earlier rather than wait for you to bump in to him some 18months later?

Perhaps he's not a friend. Perhaps he knows ****all too.

Because the person who is still looking to buy a club has had his reps sniffing around clubs the past 2 weeks,hence why we had the conversation yesterday.


Truth is he did give me a name and i managed to join the dots together,on asking others what they new it all started to fall into place regards all the silly PA stuff we had before.

I have seen what happens to the "ITK" posters on here and am not going to become a scapegoat for other forum members.

What shocks me is that 99% of forum members are more interested in "having a go" at other posters posts from a year ago rather than engaging brain and working out who the real money people are.

Maybe I am being paranoid but it seems strange that a group of guys are going around looking at a couple of clubs with a wodge of money the same week that the forum goes limited company;)

I spoke with a person who has contact with the buyers office and when he asked them outright if they intended buying a football club they just laughed at him,yet the papers dont seem to agree,so who knows?

[Scummer]

Anyone interested in takeover talk, this thread seems to be getting interesting:

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25

Post 43 onwards.

[Master Bates]

Cheers

[Victor]

Because the person who is still looking to buy a club has had his reps sniffing around clubs the past 2 weeks,hence why we had the conversation yesterday.


Truth is he did give me a name and i managed to join the dots together,on asking others what they new it all started to fall into place regards all the silly PA stuff we had before.

I have seen what happens to the "ITK" posters on here and am not going to become a scapegoat for other forum members.

What shocks me is that 99% of forum members are more interested in "having a go" at other posters posts from a year ago rather than engaging brain and working out who the real money people are.

Maybe I am being paranoid but it seems strange that a group of guys are going around looking at a couple of clubs with a wodge of money the same week that the forum goes limited company;)

I spoke with a person who has contact with the buyers office and when he asked them outright if they intended buying a football club they just laughed at him,yet the papers dont seem to agree,so who knows?


Maybe I'M being paranoid, or maybe you're being deliberately confusing, but in your first post that instigated the thread you said the guy was NOT named, and the point of your thread was that you were asking if anyone knew who he was.

I think.

[AwaySaint1]

Maybe I'M being paranoid, or maybe you're being deliberately confusing, but in your first post that instigated the thread you said the guy was NOT named, and the point of your thread was that you were asking if anyone knew who he was.

I think.

He did give me a name but not of the guy with the money,as I said I just joined the dots together to work out who it was.......

Its the same guy who has been sniffing around at Leeds.

[thornhill_saints]

Was chatting with a friend who works in London this afternoon and he informed me that it never was paul allen who was interested in us but the guy who purchased a major amount of his Dreamworks stock,hence the confusion.

The guy who was not named is looking at a ccc club and a first division club.

I pushed a bit more to get him to name the 2 clubs concerned,"us plus Leeds united"(so he says).

So who is it? are we being taken over by Spielberg?

Come on "ITKers" I thought we could rely on you.

http://www.clubfanzine.com/southampton/v2.showNews.php?id=12855

[Red N Wight]

Or, as The Chairman Of The Board sang, "You've got me dangling on a string"

Was that realy Rupert ? He aint got a bad voice

[AwaySaint1]

Looks like my man may have good info then.
He did say the newspapers had started to make waves regards us being taken over as I stated in my post above.

[trousers]

http://www.nedgallagher.com/journal/archives/images/groundhog_day.jpg

[slickmick]

LLS is/was Cherrypip

No idea who St D is masquerading as....'Trader' perhaps ?


Awaysaint1.

[trousers]

Originally Posted by trousers http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/redbar/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=3690#post3690)
LLS is/was Cherrypip

No idea who St D is masquerading as....'Trader' perhaps ?




Awaysaint1.

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