Saints 2009/10 would comfortably beat Saints 2008/09

[shurlock]

Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat :)

[gaz]

i'd agree, and KD is still on top of his game.

Wotte vs Pardew, AP is just miles better too.

[70's Mike]

no brainer

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

No argument from me , the current team would beat last years 9 times out of 10 in all probability . Having a wealthy owner has much to recommend it .

[St Chalet]

add to that a winning mentality.

[RonManager]

Can someone on here create this match on one of the football software games packages?

[Bearsy]

who gets home advantage?

[Andy_Porter]

-------- Davis
James Perry Size Skacel
------- Gillett
Schneiderlin - Surman
------- Lallana
----- McG - Euell

vs

Davis
Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
------ Hammond - James
Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
---------- Lambert

Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.

[Tac-tics]

-------- Davis
James Perry Size Skacel
------- Gillett
Schneiderlin - Surman
------- Lallana
----- McG - Euell

vs

Davis
Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
------ Hammond - James
Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
---------- Lambert

Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.

Errrr Morgan in for James

[Andy_Porter]

Was thinking about, with everyone fit i'd rather have James in there just for his corners. Maybe stick Schneiderlin in for Mellis and shift Lallana out wide and play the same system as we did on Friday.

[spyinthesky]

Interesting thread

What about comparing current side v the Burley play off side and 1st year championship team

Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently

[S-Clarke]

Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently

Absolutely agree.

Im not getting too carried away just yet. I remember these threads poped up when we went on a 5 match winning streak in our playoff season ''We are better than our relegated premiership side..'' etc.

Still a long way to go before this lot can be compared to any past team!

[Thedelldays]

It needs pardew to almost bring in a new team

pardew is clearly bette than wotte but it also shows how hard wotte had it.

I doubt even pardew would have kept last seasons team up

[Arizona]

-------- Davis
James Perry Size Skacel
------- Gillett
Schneiderlin - Surman
------- Lallana
----- McG - Euell

vs

Davis
Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
------ Hammond - James
Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
---------- Lambert

Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.

I'd have Skacel in for Mellis, but that's just my opinion. Otherwise I'd agree. EVERYTHING about this team and even this club is miles better than last season.

[Roger]

Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?

[Andy_Porter]

Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?

Based on what three good games this season?

I don't think there's much in it between the two, James being able to take a semi decent set piece swings it for me.

[70's Mike]

those who quote this seasons side seem to have forgotten that we have won the last 2 with Wotton in the side.
AP was saying on Sky this morning you cannot just play "total" football in this division

[Andy_Porter]

Interesting thread

What about comparing current side v the Burley play off side and 1st year championship team

Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently

The Burley side was a lot better, maybe next season with a few more players we might be at a similar level but not yet.

Davis
Wright - Baird - Lundekvam - Bale
Surman - Guthrie - Pele - Skacel
Jones - Rasiak

That was a decent team. From our current squad Waigo and Murty would walk into the side not sure who else maybe Lallana, Hammond and Jaidi.

[70's Mike]

Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?

but is the TEAM better with him in it

[Andy_Porter]

but is the TEAM better with him in it

Agreed. You need to have Wotton or James in front of the defence. Hammond and Morgan are too similar and both want to play further up the pitch leaving too big a gap between the defence and midfield.

[Thedelldays]

but is the TEAM better with him in it

Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo

[VectisSaint]

The Burley side was a lot better, maybe next season with a few more players we might be at a similar level but not yet.

Davis
Wright - Baird - Lundekvam - Bale
Surman - Guthrie - Pele - Skacel
Jones - Rasiak

That was a decent team. From our current squad Waigo and Murty would walk into the side not sure who else maybe Lallana, Hammond and Jaidi.
Ahem, I see you mean the Burley/SNODIN side, rather than the appalling team from Burley's last season. Current team would beat the Burley "lardy boys" side from the following season.

[Andy_Porter]

Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo

He didn't play holding midfield against Southend. I'd say he was as good as anyone on the night playing as our furthest forward central midfielder.

He's not cut out to play holding midfield yet, maybe with a bit of experience but not yet.

Wether he's in the team or not it's a nice change to actually have options and decent players on the bench.

[Andy_Porter]

Ahem, I see you mean the Burley/SNODIN side, rather than the appalling team from Burley's last season. Current team would beat the Burley "lardy boys" side from the following season.

I've managed to blank that season out, not sure I could even remember a full XI. That was a shocking season.

[70's Mike]

Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo

we lost to rovers but beat Southend with Wotten in the side
my point is that to get out of this division we need the right TEAM structure NOT just the best players

[Thedelldays]

we lost to rovers but beat Southend with Wotten in the side
my point is that to get out of this division we need the right TEAM structure NOT just the best players

We lost to rovers as we had no left hand side. Hammond and Morgan were both fantastic that night. We were crap down the wings

[BridgnorthSaint]

i'd agree, and KD is still on top of his game.

Wotte vs Pardew, AP is just miles better too.

I agree too - Alan Pardew hasn't put a foot wrong yet for me - He comes across as very honest in his media appearances too!

This is so much better than recent years - In spite of being in Lge 1

[Chez]

Jardi instead of Perry and we would have stayed up last year.

[ExSt Peter Saint]

Would you have any of these players in the team now to replace existing players? If so, who?

Surman
McGoldrick
Skacel
BWP
Euell
Dyer
Rasiak
JPS
Stern John

I certainly wouldn't have any of those strikers instead of Lambert bearing in mind age, attitude and scoring rate this league. Skacel likewise, either at LB or LW. Surman is a tricky one, because I think he's a quality player, but Lallana is better in attack and Hammond/Schneiderlin looks a good partnership in front of DM. I'd have Papa over Dyer, McGoldrick or Euell any day too, so I think we are looking stronger.

[Atticus Finch of Maycomb]

we are still bottom

[ottery st mary]

Surman would be my only choice.....Heart , soul and a lot of talent....Only if we could get him for a loan or small fee in January......The rest can go to Wycombe with Rupes and his Dutch boyzz Jan and Mark.

COYRs.

[RedAndWhite91]

Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat :)

Also, this year's Schneiderlin would definitely outplay last year's Schneiderlin. A vast improvement imo.

[benjii]

I wish we still had Jimmy Belmadi. He would take the **** out of players in this league and would work well in our current system.

[O_RLY]

Djamel Belmadi was a decent player.

[Andy_Porter]

Would you have any of these players in the team now to replace existing players? If so, who?

Surman
McGoldrick
Skacel
BWP
Euell
Dyer
Rasiak
JPS
Stern John

I certainly wouldn't have any of those strikers instead of Lambert bearing in mind age, attitude and scoring rate this league. Skacel likewise, either at LB or LW. Surman is a tricky one, because I think he's a quality player, but Lallana is better in attack and Hammond/Schneiderlin looks a good partnership in front of DM. I'd have Papa over Dyer, McGoldrick or Euell any day too, so I think we are looking stronger.

If it was just based on ability i'd take Skacel and Mcgoldrick back but neither of those really wanted to be here so we're better off with inferior players who want to play for us.

Shame we lost Euell as I think he could be usefull cover this season same with JPS, good player but not as good as Trottman or Jaidi imo.

Surman I'd take back in an instant, a front three of Lallana, Paga and Surman would be brilliant.

Glad to see BWP, Rasiak, Dyer gone.

[Dannyboy_Saint]

Djamel Belmadi was a decent player.

When he was fit.

[Saints foreva]

Does Skacel have a team yet?

[Arizona]

Does Skacel have a team yet?

Debrecen.

[ericofarabia]

LOL .... the team from 73/74 that got relegated from Div 1 would thrash last years pansies ... even if the game was played tomorrow with the oldies pushing their zimmer frames around :D

[alpine_saint]

Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat :)

Which side would bagsy Kelvin Davis and Adam Lallana ?

[ExSt Peter Saint]

I reckon even giving last year's team Lala and KD, our team now would beat last year's.

Davis
James JPS Perry Skacel
Gillet Euell
Lallana McGoldrick BWP
Rasiak

vs
Bart (weaker I know, but have to give them a chance)
Murty Jaidi Trotman Harding
Wotton
Hammond Schneiderlin
Papa Mellis
Lambert