View Full Version : Do we need the Stoke game
thegaffer
03-08-2008, 07:04 PM
Do we really need to be playing Stoke on Tues?
RedArmy
03-08-2008, 07:05 PM
Probably not, but I think it'll be good to test ourselves against essentialy a physical championship side.
Arizona
03-08-2008, 07:05 PM
I think there are a fair few players in our squad who could do with another run out, so yes.
Michelle
03-08-2008, 07:08 PM
Yes. Most of pre-season has been about getting the fitness levels up, and checking out our talent/lack of talent.
Now we need to play a couple of games with the likely starting 11 for Cardiff, against some strong opposition, to get the stability in place ready for next Saturday - exactly why Hereford (to a lesser extent), West Ham and Stoke were arranged.
thegaffer
03-08-2008, 07:10 PM
Probably not, but I think it'll be good to test ourselves against essentialy a physical championship side.
Exactly why i think its a risky game.. We dont want to go into Sats game against Cardiff with an injury list as long as your arm. All the good work from the past 6 weeks could all be undone.
Saint Martini
03-08-2008, 07:11 PM
Stoke are one of the best hoofball teams in the country, its a good test to play them. This is what we'll get from most teams in this league so definitely not useless. On another note, how many people do you think will go after the good performance against WHU?
redandwhitey
03-08-2008, 07:15 PM
I read that as football teams instead of Hoofball teams and nearly fell off my chair. Now where's my glasses???
Saint Charlie
03-08-2008, 07:16 PM
Good to play against a very physical team, and good for the playersd to get used to playing hard matches Sat and then midweek.
rockhill
03-08-2008, 07:23 PM
We still have another team to get fit, and need to play.
John
Rasiak
BWP
Skacel
Davies
Euell
Wotton
Saggers
ladysaint
03-08-2008, 07:29 PM
Anyone got an update of ticket sales for this game, last I heard it is was about 600 but surely that must be wrong.
Wes Tender
03-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Exactly why i think its a risky game.. We dont want to go into Sats game against Cardiff with an injury list as long as your arm. All the good work from the past 6 weeks could all be undone.
Well, if we've not got cover for any injuries we are likely to incur at that match, then we are truly snookered when the season starts properly.
up and away
03-08-2008, 07:36 PM
Yes. Most of pre-season has been about getting the fitness levels up, and checking out our talent/lack of talent.
Now we need to play a couple of games with the likely starting 11 for Cardiff, against some strong opposition, to get the stability in place ready for next Saturday - exactly why Hereford (to a lesser extent), West Ham and Stoke were arranged.
I can't see us putting out the starting 11 for Cardiff against Stoke, this is assuming that was the starting 11 against West ham (which if it was not before hand, certainly looks like it now). They really knocked their pan out against West Ham and it's just too much for a young team with so many games to come. I don't see it as wise doing the same with last years team, let alone this one. Use this game to get the rest of the squad fit and pointers for any to break through.
derry
03-08-2008, 07:38 PM
We still have another team to get fit, and need to play.
John
Rasiak
BWP
Skacel
Davies
Euell
Wotton
Saggers
They will probably play the second half. I can't see the 1st team of youngsters playing more than a half, four days before the first game.
Leicestersaint
03-08-2008, 07:38 PM
yes - valuable practice.
Mole1
03-08-2008, 07:43 PM
Well, if we've not got cover for any injuries we are likely to incur at that match, then we are truly snookered when the season starts properly.
Agreed, but i think the majority of clubs outside the top flight are the same. However if your players are fit they should theoretically pick up less injuries on the whole.
In anycase i don't buy all the whinging done by certain managers about the number of games played. They should be able to play everyday at their age. You don't hear working lads complaining about playing on a Sunday after working shifts all week, nor did the players of old complain about doing likewise and playing with a water logged leather ball which weighed a ton. Kicking a beachball round the park for 90 minutes isn't exactly hard work.
rockhill
03-08-2008, 08:22 PM
Anyone got an update of ticket sales for this game, last I heard it is was about 600 but surely that must be wrong.
My ticket for stoke is
Kingsland North
unreserved seating
So not much chance of filling the Kingsland.
Kaiser Soze
03-08-2008, 08:24 PM
Anyone bothering with the Stoke game?
Plumstead_Saint
03-08-2008, 09:25 PM
yes - valuable practice.
Spot on.
Anyone who can't keep up won't be much use to us this season.
And it must be better preparation than hanging out at the training ground?
saint_coxy
03-08-2008, 09:36 PM
I think it will be a good run out for the lads before Cardiff on Saturday and a good final practice for Jan to sort out his final formation and squad
Um Bongo
03-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Could they not hold the game at Staplewood?
Not really much point having it at St Marys. 12,000 there on Friday night, be lucky to see 9,000 i think,
Well, having been away until today and having missed the West Ham game, I am looking forward to the Stoke game.
Michelle
03-08-2008, 10:04 PM
I can't see us putting out the starting 11 for Cardiff against Stoke, this is assuming that was the starting 11 against West ham (which if it was not before hand, certainly looks like it now). They really knocked their pan out against West Ham and it's just too much for a young team with so many games to come. I don't see it as wise doing the same with last years team, let alone this one. Use this game to get the rest of the squad fit and pointers for any to break through.
West Ham was the first "real" test for what we've got to come over the season. Stoke is the same. Anyway, it won't be far off the starting 11, bearing in mind we also have a reserve friendly against Woking on Tuesday.
It should be a good mix of senior and youth against Stoke, somewhere along the lines of what we'll be looking to start the season with, and predominantly youth against Woking.
I'll be off to Woking anyhow.
Dannyboy_Saint
03-08-2008, 11:00 PM
Put most of the 'older pros' in the team for this game for a match fitness build up and also to see if they are willing to put the effort in to win back there starting positions because on Fridays showing the young ones are here to stay.
My team would be:
Davis
Imudia, Thomas, Lancashire, Mills
Euell, Wotton
Dyer, Skacel, Saga
John
SaintKenny
03-08-2008, 11:37 PM
Anyone bothering with the Stoke game?
I am going!
Torrent Of Abuse
04-08-2008, 03:52 AM
Yes we do. Being Saints, we have to follow any decent result with a bad result as quickly as possible in order to dampen down any unwanted levels of excitement. If we beat Stoke, we'll probably have to quickly schedule another match against Real Madrid the next day just to save us all from a tidal wave of happiness which we're ill-equipped to deal with. ;)
LaptopSaint
04-08-2008, 08:35 AM
Shurely it's worth playing Stoke simply for the chance to wind up Ricardo Fuller?
SaintDonkey
04-08-2008, 08:38 AM
It's the friendly I'm most worried about as it will be the truest test of the off season. Whether it should be played with fringe players or the supposed first team I'm not sure - a test for the first team would be the most valuable but I share the concerns about injuries and just plain playing too many games just before the start of the season. If we play the 'fringe' players then it's a wasted opportunity to gauge ourselves against the right level of opposition, but as a test it's surely too late since there's no time to change anything?
Oh I don't know I'm just confused.
Toomer
04-08-2008, 09:04 AM
What we don't need is someone getting a knock.
Window Cleaner
04-08-2008, 09:13 AM
Do we really need to be playing Stoke on Tues?
I would think so, we certainly need more than the measly 12K or so who attended the West Ham game.What happened to Saturday friendlies? are there too many weddings and other receptions to be able to use the stadium for football now on a Saturday .
ozzmeister
04-08-2008, 10:37 AM
I think yes we do as it will be the closest test we will have against a strong CCC team, i.e. the type we will come up against on a weekly basis and the type we will need to overcome to progress up this league.
More important than West Ham IMO
Andy Durman
04-08-2008, 10:37 AM
One player that will definitely be rested is Svenson
Dan Johnson
04-08-2008, 11:56 AM
I expect to see most of the players who didnt get a run out against West Ham to start
Painswick Saint
04-08-2008, 05:58 PM
It will be a good test of our capabilties. Just a bit too close to the Cardiff match for my liking, though. Like several of the other posters on here, I would be worried if we picked up a couple of injuries in a squad that just seems to be taking shape
Professor
05-08-2008, 08:31 PM
By changing the team at half time it looks as if JP didn't feel the first team needed another game, but it seems to have been worthwhile to give the rest of the squad half a game.
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