New Manager Gossip & Rumours

[Dr Who?]

Just to add to that, I think a big named manager was given until yesterday to make their mind up on the job, and has turned it down, now deciding to interview Adkins. I am just guessing and probably have it all wrong but seems to fit with the midweek appointment which is now being pushed out until Friday!

[Meathead]

Phill Brown just been on talk sport confirming he was interviewed for saints job on Monday. Might explain why every taxi driver in the area saw him.

[kpturner]

All considered Adkins is a good choice. Just think we might regret not going for Howe!

Very true. Adkins is a good choice but Howe has an impressive calm assurance about him.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Mmm, it is not true to say that just because Adkins managed to get Scunny promoted on a shoestring, he will be able to do the same here with 'better' players. In fact I truly hacked-off seeing this myth bandied about on here. Fact of the matter is, a particular type of manager and managerial approach will suit a particular squad make-up. Saints squad is effectively nearly all Pardews boys selected to do a job for his approach, tactics and strategy.

To look at it from another direction, Adkins success has come about by applying his 'way' with a completely different squad make-up. Why should it work with Saints squad? I'm not confident atall that it will.

Then of course there's the question of motivating and galvanising support. Instant success will be expected I dare say.

[Saint Billy]

We need an impact manager to connect with the team immediately and attract a couple of decent loans. The squad quality is largely good enough to deliver promotion.

The time for being patient and easing a new manager in is long, long gone.

Absolutely!

What also concerns me is that the person who gets the job might not possibly be the best candidate, but maybe the only candidate willing to do it NC's way.

[EBS1980]

Phill Brown just been on talk sport confirming he was interviewed for saints job on Monday. Might explain why every taxi driver in the area saw him.

Seems to like telling the public his every move. That wont go down well with NC. Maybe they have interviewed the unemployed people first while they get permission to speak to those employed.

[West End Saint]

You have to say Adkins has done a great job at Scunny and is a up & coming Manager even the season they got relegated from the CCC they played very nice football he may well do a great job.

Not many of us were over the moon when Pards was appointed but I think he did a good job I wish he was still in charge so who knows if it is Adkins it might well work out.

I believe that NC is a control freak and wont want a bid name or someone he can't control so I think all the grandstand appointments may be off the mark.

I wish he would just get on with it we need sorting out the last two performances have not been acceptable I dont mind us getting beat when we have put everything in like Plymouth & Bolton but I can't accept the Swindon & Rochdale performances and want it sorted.

[SaintRichmond]

If it was him they would surely have announced it by now. Either it never was him, or we wanted him and he turned it down, or he accepted the job but Cortese got cold feet.

Or he was put off by Cortese's insistance that the "Manager" is answerable to everyone above Car Parking Attendant

(Car Parking Attendants are a law unto themselves .......... just ask Keegan

Horses for Courses for me, so Adkins is the right choice........ Proven at this level (THIRD)

[saintscottofthenortham]

Phill Brown just been on talk sport confirming he was interviewed for saints job on Monday. Might explain why every taxi driver in the area saw him.

I'm sure Cortese will love that.

[Dr Who?]

Phil Brown has talked himself out of a job chance there then!

[Window Cleaner]

Still a bit weird that Adkins has been favourite for a few days, but we are only interviewing him today.... how do the bookies know these things?

because they recruit people who are exceptionally good at finding things out for them. If you can get that sort of job with a top bookies then you could probably sail into 5 or 6 as well. My dad had a longstanding friend who was an East London bookie, not much he didn't know about anything that concerned his business (and a lot of other sombre stuff as well)

[moonraker]

[QUOTE=alpine_saint;839861]We need an impact manager to connect with the team immediately and attract a couple of decent loans. The squad quality is largely good enough to deliver promotion.

The impact manager thing is a double edged sword, if Billy big boots came in and basically said you are lot are bunch of L1 nothings and I’m going to sort you out I don’t think we would get the impact we desire. Alternatively a highly respected (in football circles if not fans minds) achieving young(ish) manager who can connect immediately with L1 players might have the impact we desire. While football management appointments are always a risk, I believe the least risk is Adkins.

[saintscottofthenortham]

Absolutely!

What also concerns me is that the person who gets the job might not possibly be the best candidate, but maybe the only candidate willing to do it NC's way.

Where is there any evidence that NC had interfered with management of the first team?

[St.Patrik]

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/s****horpeunitednews/ADKINS-KEEPS-UNITED-FOCUS/article-2615875-detail/article.html

[kpturner]

In fact I truly hacked-off seeing this myth bandied about on here. Fact of the matter is, a particular type of manager and managerial approach will suit a particular squad make-up. Saints squad is effectively nearly all Pardews boys selected to do a job for his approach, .
So the only manager that could work with Pardews squad is Pardew himself??!

[Fergie]

Where is there any evidence that NC had interfered with management of the first team?

Because he txt Pardew after the bristol rovers game asking why pardew didnt play Guly for longer!! and i am ITK, know someone who was on the coach that day

[kpturner]

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/s****horpeunitednews/ADKINS-KEEPS-UNITED-FOCUS/article-2615875-detail/article.html
Links containing **** don't work :-)

[Saint Billy]

Where is there any evidence that NC had interfered with management of the first team?

There is no smoke without fire.

[surrey1saint]

Just search for this is s c u n t h o r p e and you can read the link.

[Window Cleaner]

except that I'd say that one or two players have gone slightly backwards since they've been here,not all but some.
But then as you know I put that squarely down to to the coaching staff not been up to the technical level already existent in those players.

[saintscottofthenortham]

except that I'd say that one or two players have gone slightly backwards since they've been here,not all but some.
But then as you know I put that squarely down to to the coaching staff not been up to the technical level already existent in those players.

Puncheon & Hammond I would agree with. But on the other hand there are more players who have come on leaps and bounds... Barnard, Lallana, Lambert the most significant.

[kpturner]

Because he txt Pardew after the bristol rovers game asking why pardew didnt play Guly for longer!! and i am ITK, know someone who was on the coach that day
A text after the match does not constitute interference. It is a normal question - one that many fans also wanted to ask. HTH

[SamKimish]

Inteference would be telling Pardew to play Guly. Asking why he didn't bring him on earlier is a simple question that I would have asked.

[saint_mears]

Still a bit weird that Adkins has been favourite for a few days, but we are only interviewing him today.... how do the bookies know these things?

They dont and just guess hence all the other comical names listed.

[OldNick]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

[Foxstone]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

But we as fans must get real here too !

We are a 3rd tier club - A big club granted but nonetheless currently knocking around the lower leagues!

It would be an absolute coup of unprecedented magnitude for somebody of M O'N's standing to drop down 2 levels of capability to manage us!

It is far more likely that we must accept a candidate befitting our current level and status, but perhaps with the capability to drive us towards the well published objective of Prem football.

[Dr Who?]

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But we as fans must get real here too !

We are a 3rd tier club - A big club granted but nonetheless currently knocking around the lower leagues!

It would be an absolute coup of unprecedented magnitude for somebody of M O'N's standing to drop down 2 levels of capability to manage us!

But Brown was a Premier League manager who is out of work as well. I would not expect him to take a job with us either, but he really wants it, so why not MoN?

[Chin Strain]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

This bit is critical IMHO. As I think FF said at the time, when you get taken over by a billionaire and become a rich mans toy, you become beholden to them. We need the Liebherr's continued involvement and investment. I happen to think NC is crucial to retaining that. Whether we like it or not, I feel we have to keep NC.

[SaintRichmond]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

What is annoying for me is that we still do not know whether Cortese "removed" Pardew on the spur of the moment, or because a "situation" was forced on him.

If it were the latter, then most prople would be more sympathetic to Cortese's predicament, that he had to suddenlt start looking for a new Manager from "scratch"

If it were the former, then it would be seen as shooting himself in the foot, by not lining someone up in advance

Finally, IF he had his sights on the likes of Martin O'Neil, then, IMHO, that shows his lack of understanding of Football in the UK

Quality, successful Prem Managers would NOT step down to Division One. Only Failed Prem Managers would grab at it as a means of kickstarting their careers

In our current position, ie Division THREE, I think getting Adkins from the CCC, would be the best we (and Cortese) could hope for, UNLESS of course Cortese ties his hands behind his back by making him answerable (Footballwise) to too many "knowalls" (Cortese included

[dubai_phil]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

Never under estimate the role of Psychology in football.

The fans at SMS are "edgy"
The players feel under pressure at SMS

This is a REALLY big issue for us this season, we have already dropped stupid points at home and if we are going to get promoted then SMS MUST become a fortress.

To do THAT, the fans have to ease up on the players OR something else has to happen.

That "something else" must stop the fans being edgy - hence why we express the feelings that we need a WOW factor (and mitigate that with the usual Saints fans "expect to be disappointed so it will be Adkins, or whoever)

The Saints job needs a damn good manager BUT it needs that edgy feeling to be taken away IF we are really going to move up the League QUICKLY, the players mustn't feel under pressure at home, they must PERFORM....

So while a good guy like "an Adkins" will get us there eventually, I worry about the whelmed status levels we feel.

I think there is as big a danger signing a "Young 'un" as there is in signing an old wise head.

[OldNick]

Never under estimate the role of Psychology in football.

The fans at SMS are "edgy"
The players feel under pressure at SMS

This is a REALLY big issue for us this season, we have already dropped stupid points at home and if we are going to get promoted then SMS MUST become a fortress.

To do THAT, the fans have to ease up on the players OR something else has to happen.

That "something else" must stop the fans being edgy - hence why we express the feelings that we need a WOW factor (and mitigate that with the usual Saints fans "expect to be disappointed so it will be Adkins, or whoever)

The Saints job needs a damn good manager BUT it needs that edgy feeling to be taken away IF we are really going to move up the League QUICKLY, the players mustn't feel under pressure at home, they must PERFORM....

So while a good guy like "an Adkins" will get us there eventually, I worry about the whelmed status levels we feel.

I think there is as big a danger signing a "Young 'un" as there is in signing an old wise head.

I have pointed to the fans expectations being a pressure for months now. Last season it was enjoyable as the fans were all behind the team on matchdays. This season there has been a seed change after AP said there were going to be no excuses and we were going for the title. A foolish raising of our hopes and adding extra burden on the team.
Saturday night felt like the bad old days, a feeling I thougth had gone for a few years.

[Wade Garrett]

Apparently, Cortese and Di Matteo grew up together in the same village.

[Wadge]

Can someone start a poll about who you want as manager, including MON, Keegan, Adkins, Brown, Howe, Shearer, Dowie, Wilkins, just to gauge the current feeling?

[St_Tel49]

There is no smoke without fire.

And that is your evidence? This fatuous phrase is used to justify passing any rumour - even ones made up just to see how far it goes.

[Liquidshokk]

I think whoever we get in, we can write this season off due to all that has already gone on. The new manager will be judged on next season and Cortese will have to just take this poor season on the chin. Next season will be a whirlwind one though with all guns blazing...

[Pancake]

I think whoever we get in, we can write this season off due to all that has already gone on. The new manager will be judged on next season and Cortese will have to just take this poor season on the chin. Next season will be a whirlwind one though with all guns blazing...

Did we say that least season?

[Bucks Saint]

But Brown was a Premier League manager who is out of work as well. I would not expect him to take a job with us either, but he really wants it, so why not MoN?

In terms of personal desire for a job (in league one), you are not seriously comparing Brown with MON ?

[St_Tel49]

We can argue and discuss the merits/ demerits of experienced / up and coming managers and whether we should appoint MON, Adkins, Howe or Brown. The fact is that ANY manager is a gamble of one sort or another for different reasons. Some people who were successful one place are unsuccessful on promotion - others succeed. Whoever is appointed, we need to get behind them big time to get ourselves out of the hole we are in. We need the new manager, the team and the fans all pulling together. If we don't then it doesn't matter a damn who we appoint.

[Liquidshokk]

Did we say that least season?

This season is far more mental than the last already :scared:

We should have given Pardew this season though, he deserved it after what he made out of the troubles of last season.

Cant see Cortese denying the new manager a full season next season though........ actually, who knows what goes on in his impatient head. I'd like to think he's learning from his mistakes though.....

[Saint Billy]

And that is your evidence? This fatuous phrase is used to justify passing any rumour - even ones made up just to see how far it goes.

Perhaps if NC connected with the fanbase a little better there would be no need for rumour or speculation.

We have to judge him on what he does rather than what he says atm until he decides or not to communicate a little better.

As far as the sacking of Pardew is concerned, he could clear this up in one sentence if he so wished as I am sure he is clever enough to do it without causing too much fallout. If he did this then at least he would gain more respect from some of us.

[adriansfc]

There is no smoke without fire.

Which allows anyone to pretty much say anything.

[adriansfc]

But Brown was a Premier League manager who is out of work as well. I would not expect him to take a job with us either, but he really wants it, so why not MoN?

MON = good manager

Brown = as pathetic as he is embarassing

[buctootim]

Perhaps if NC connected with the fanbase a little better there would be no need for rumour or speculation.

We have to judge him on what he does rather than what he says atm until he decides or not to communicate a little better.

As far as the sacking of Pardew is concerned, he could clear this up in one sentence if he so wished as I am sure he is clever enough to do it without causing too much fallout. If he did this then at least he would gain more respect from some of us.

You cant go discussing employment issues in public! Cortese cant say anything meaningful about why Pardew was sacked so he might as well say nothing.

[Topcat]

Where is the evidence that Cortese makes the right decisions? If Cortese had replaced Pardew at the end of last season he could have appointed some young manager and given them a lot of time to get the team onside and playing well. The irony is that the longer Cortese leaves things the more power he will may have to cede to the new Team manager to attract a big name.

However Cortese is unwilling to cede power to the team manager having decided that Les Reed was more important to the Club's success than Alan Pardew. Duh.

Today we have a different situation where the new Manager will have to start making an impact within a few games to avoid the pressure piling up. A name that attracts back large crowds could of course create their own impetus but a has been or a no name, will not have that luxury. Which is why I am expecting Cortese to do the wrong thing because with Les Reed they have killed off the chances of a big name. I am expecting some gullible no name or a desperate has been and that we will be in a full crisis by November.

[adriansfc]

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

Say what you want about odds, but it doesn't go to 1/7 for no reason. I'd say it's 99.9% certain Adkins has the job.

[Topcat]

You cant go discussing employment issues in public! Cortese cant say anything meaningful about why Pardew was sacked so he might as well say nothing.

Cortese authorised the statement that it was all about co-operation between the first team and Les Reed's empire. That was a very clear and meaningful statement of the cause.

[SaintNeil90]

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

Say what you want about odds, but it doesn't go to 1/7 for no reason. I'd say it's 99.9% certain Adkins has the job.

You get there because he was a short price anyway and now people have seen it reported by sky so are lumping more money on. Strachan went to 1/5 last year!!!

[Verbal Kint]

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

Say what you want about odds, but it doesn't go to 1/7 for no reason. I'd say it's 99.9% certain Adkins has the job.

or 87.5% likely...

[adriansfc]

I think whoever we get in, we can write this season off due to all that has already gone on. The new manager will be judged on next season and Cortese will have to just take this poor season on the chin. Next season will be a whirlwind one though with all guns blazing...

That's fairly ridiculous after 4 games.

42 games left with possibly the best squad in the league and time for loans and signings, and you'll give up?

If we don't go up, I'd be very, very surprised if the new manager isn't sacked.

[adriansfc]

Hope it is Adkins after I got him at 13/8 in the midst of the O'Neill silliness.

[saintrich]

According to an ex player I spoke to there will be a press release explaining why pardew and his coaching staff were sacked, but not until the new manager is appointed. The details of the apparent press release seem a bit extreme and like bull**** to me - be good if things were cleared up though.

[SaintNeil90]

According to an ex player I spoke to there will be a press release explaining why pardew and his coaching staff were sacked, but not until the new manager is appointed. The details of the apparent press release seem a bit extreme and like bull**** to me - be good if things were cleared up though.

This wont happen. It would be unprofessional and possibly warrant legal action if it tarnishes Pardews reputation.

[Chin Strain]

This wont happen. It would be unprofessional and possibly warrant legal action if it tarnishes Pardews reputation.

Maybe it tarnishes his reputation because it happened, in which case he couldn't take legal action on it being a lie.

[Dr Who?]

In terms of personal desire for a job (in league one), you are not seriously comparing Brown with MON ?

No but would prefer Brown to Nutkins!

[Dr Who?]

http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html

Say what you want about odds, but it doesn't go to 1/7 for no reason. I'd say it's 99.9% certain Adkins has the job.

Yes but this could have happened due to the news that he is being interviewed. It was on Sky Sports News this morning and on the radio I believe. Is strange that none of the other managers have come out in the press that they are being interviewed.

Still not nailed on, but someone knows something as he has been favourite for a few days now!

[Red]

Just a thought, could it be Nigel Pearson?

Fits in with some of the rumours - young up and coming English manager, proven at this level, a familiar face, would be a possible WOW factor with a lot of the fans (judging by what was said when he left). Just can't fit in the MON bit, and then can't win them all.

Hasn't made a great start at Hull. Not ITK, just a thought?

[adriansfc]

Yes but this could have happened due to the news that he is being interviewed. It was on Sky Sports News this morning and on the radio I believe. Is strange that none of the other managers have come out in the press that they are being interviewed.

Still not nailed on, but someone knows something as he has been favourite for a few days now!

Yes if he'd gone to evens, slight favourite etc., but they know Brown was interviewed too. 1/8 is fairly certain, it would be surprising for it not to happen. A lot of money will have gone on him to come in to those odds. He's been likely all along and I think the other managers odds shortening was just people betting in hope to be honest.

[Notty1981]

Press galore at the stadium......not long now......

[Dr Who?]

Press galore at the stadium......not long now......

Source?

[Dr Who?]

Source?

Sorry always wanted to say that, but have never got in first before!

[Saint Billy]

Press galore at the stadium......not long now......

WOW, whelmed.

[Grim Reaper]

Yes there is press galore at the stadium now, a friend of mine is working near there and also said Alan Shearer was spotted going into SMS, make of that what you will.

[adriansfc]

Press galore, Adkins at 1/8, he's clearly interested, Scunny fans certain he's off.

Welcome Rolf Fringer!

[Bearsy]

Can everyone stop saying press galore?

Thanks

[bridge too far]

Can everyone stop saying press galore?

Thanks

A plethora of press?

[dubai_phil]

Can everyone stop saying press galore?

Thanks

Pussy Galore work instead?

[dubai_phil]

A plethora of press?

A pimple of press

[Saint Billy]

Yes there is press galore at the stadium now, a friend of mine is working near there and also said Alan Shearer was spotted going into SMS, make of that what you will.

Strange seeing that Adkins must be there by now!

[adriansfc]

A flange of media.

[dan17]

I'm really gonna miss all these 'make of that what you will' comments when this thread is closed :-)

anyway............

[Saint Billy]

A gaggle of photographers.

[adriansfc]

Adkins head coach with Keegan director of football.

[Grim Reaper]

Yes i thought that was strange, he is there but may be totally un connected, im thinking Adkins as well

[Saint Bowood]

Adkins/Shearer dream team?

WOW!

;-)

[dubai_phil]

I'm really gonna miss all these 'make of that what you will' comments when this thread is closed :-)

anyway............

There is still time to post on the I Told you so Thread.

Funny that so many knowing so much haven't 8)

[adriansfc]

shearer 33/1. watch that move quick as some nobber puts their hard earned money on him merely for being there.

[Saint Billy]

Adkins head coach with Keegan director of football.

Source.

yes I did it!

[exit2]

Someone just text me to say Martin O'Neil just rented a house in Winchester on the Arlesford Road???? Who knows, But Im sure we will found out soon if true

[dubai_phil]

Someone just text me to say Martin O'Neil just rented a house in Winchester on the Arlesford Road???? Who knows, But Im sure we will found out soon if true

That is Soooooooooo Monday.

We're in tomorrow now

[Grim Reaper]

Press galore at SMS, make of that what you will :-)

[fish fingers]

A scourge of snappers at SMS right now.

[adriansfc]

Wouldn't a manager stay in a hotel for a bit before buying a place? I mean, you don't rent unless you have the job, and even then you don't want to pick just anywhere. I'm starting to believe the MON stories might not be true. This is shocking.

[Panda]

OK. I have listened to all the gossip and rumour; considered all the arguments; looked at all the evidence; turned hearsay and speculation in to fact and have decided that the club will announce tomorrow, when NC returns from his meeting in Switzerland with the appropriate approvals, that our new first team management structure will be:

Director of Football - Martin O'Neill
First Team Coach - Nigel Adkins

Adkins will bring his buddies with him to fill the other roles.

YHIHF

[Saint Billy]

perhaps we will be the first club to be hiring 4 x managers to work alternate matches

[adriansfc]

Make of this what you, but the press have just rented a house next to SMS and Phil Brown has been spotted cleaning their windows.

[buctootim]

£250 to get in, £100 per pic, £5 per word on the dictaphone at the press conference apparently.

[fish fingers]

MON as the home manager and Adkins as the away manager.

I like it.

[Saint Billy]

Make of this what you will.

[buctootim]

OK. I have listened to all the gossip and rumour; considered all the arguments; looked at all the evidence; turned hearsay and speculation in to fact and have decided that the club will announce tomorrow, when NC returns from his meeting in Switzerland with the appropriate approvals, that our new first team management structure will be:

Director of Football - Martin O'Neill
First Team Coach - Nigel Adkins

Adkins will bring his buddies with him to fill the other roles.

YHIHF

or Shearer will fill one of the coaches jobs. Its a MoN, Adkins / Shearer triple dream team!, or not.

[Saint Garrett]

£250 to get in, £100 per pic, £5 per word on the dictaphone at the press conference apparently.

Source ?

[Johnny Bognor]

Source ?

That'll cost you

[Bucks Saint]

No but would prefer Brown to Nutkins!

Would prefer almost anyone to Brown. You need to do some research

[Saint Billy]

Source ?

Like your style!

[Block 5]

A scourge of snappers at SMS right now.

Hopefully they've been turned away now.

[Saint Bowood]

High Noon approacheth...........

[Saint Billy]

High Noon approacheth...........

Perhaps there is going to be a showdown with all the shortlisted managers!

[northam soul]

Perhaps there is going to be a showdown with all the shortlisted managers!

They should stick them all in a ring and last one standing gets the job, that would sort the men from the boys.

[gonzo]

I saw Alan Pardew in an opticians in Winchester today. Make of that what you will but I think he may have had an eye test.

:)

[derry]

The S****horpe Telegraph reports that last night Saints were given permission to speak to Nigel Adkins. They are running a poll and 67% think he will go. Look on newsnow Southampton/s****horpe iron.

[dan17]

Hate to be fussy, but are reports of press at SMS correct? i.e. does it look like something might be finally about to happen?

[Marino]

High Noon

[broncoboy]

How about

Keegan Director of Football
Nigel Adkins Coach
Alan Shearer Coaches best chum
Martin O' Neil Football consultant to the coach
Phil Brown Football advisor to the coach

[Naboo_thats_who]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger

[jdsaint]

Keegan Director of Football
Nigel Adkins Coach
Alan Shearer Coaches best chum
Martin O' Neil Football consultant to the coach
Phil Brown Football advisor to the coach

Maybe it's a tactic - whereas Man City want to sign as many players as possible to win the Premiership, we're looking to get as many managers as possible? If our rivals can't get them then we're bound to storm up the league.

Genius!

[derry]

The S****horpe Telegraph reports that last night Saints were given permission to speak to Nigel Adkins. They are running a poll and 67% think he will go. Look on newsnow Southampton/s****horpe iron.

Also on Echo/Newsnow Phil Brown was interviewed on monday. Brown quoted.

[adriansfc]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger

And THAT, is why we should be damn happy it's Adkins.

[O_RLY]

Keegan Director of Football
Nigel Adkins Head physio
Alan Shearer compsure/finishing coach
Martin O' Neil Football first team coach
Phil Brown head of half-time team talks

[ottery st mary]

Keegan Director of Football
Nigel Adkins Head physio
Alan Shearer compsure/finishing coach
Martin O' Neil Football first team coach
Phil Brown head of half-time team talks


Phil would like a list supplied..
re various locations that the half time talks can be held...

[Scudamore]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger

Hilarious

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger

Cesena's manager, Guly on loan from Cesena, someone looks up the name of their manager and makes up a rumour.

[Naboo_thats_who]

Cesena's manager, Guly on loan from Cesena, someone looks up the name of their manager and makes up a rumour.

Heard from a chap at work who claims to have a friend who is ITK, I apologise (although will be quite happy) if this is BS

[Chin Strain]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger


OK...some facts....(sorry to introduce them to the 'story')

1. He was Piacenza manager in serie B last season. They didn't get promoted
2. He joined Cesena in June (after they got promoted)

[docker-p]

I have been told that Massimo Ficcadenti will be unveiled as the new first XI coach today.

Apparently he got his team promoted to Seria A last season.

Dont shoot the messenger
Please don't let this be true.

[Chin Strain]

Heard from a chap at work who claims to have a friend who is ITK, I apologise (although will be quite happy) if this is BS

He isn't even ITK about getting a team promoted FFS!

[Dr Who?]

If it is Adkins I am sure (but hope I am wrong) but we will have another one of these threads before the end of the season!

[Nexstar]

If it is Adkins I am sure (but hope I am wrong) but we will have another one of these threads before the end of the season!

For what reason? 3 and a half seasons as S****horpe manager and he's got then out of league 1 twice.

[whizz]

So is there a mass of press outside the stadium or not? Not sure if it's being joked about or not?!

[adriansfc]

Betting removed from Skybet.

[Scudamore]

So is there a mass of press outside the stadium or not? Not sure if it's being joked about or not?!
They've probably allowed them in the reception area to be fair.

[dubai_phil]

Hate to be fussy, but are reports of press at SMS correct? i.e. does it look like something might be finally about to happen?

You ask that question on the wrong forum mate.

If you want sensible answers you need to go to The Muppet Show.

This is the comedy club forum.

We KNOW it does say Saints forum but for the past few years they have been indistinguishable

[dubai_phil]

So is there a mass of press outside the stadium or not? Not sure if it's being joked about or not?!

Hmm maybe a clue here with regards to timing

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NC hates the press, so clearly he will wait until AFTER it has been raining for an hour or so

[ottery st mary]

They've probably allowed them in the reception area to be fair.

Hope the Echo staff allowed to participate in the scramble taking place..

[Dr Who?]

For what reason? 3 and a half seasons as S****horpe manager and he's got then out of league 1 twice.

IF we do not look like going up he will be gone! I can see many of the players leaving in Jan and not being replaced. For me this is a cheap option and a step backwards, unless there is a bigger name with him.

[Badger]

Will the press be permitted to take photos of the new manager or have to buy them from the club?

[WindsorSaint]

Betting removed from Skybet.

Adkins went to 1/20 before it was removed...

[Dr Who?]

Hmm maybe a clue here with regards to timing

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NC hates the press, so clearly he will wait until AFTER it has been raining for an hour or so

Brilliant 16 degrees feels like 16 degrees..... that is because it is 16 degrees?

[for_heaven's_Saint]

IF we do not look like going up he will be gone! I can see many of the players leaving in Jan and not being replaced. For me this is a cheap option and a step backwards, unless there is a bigger name with him.

The cheap option would be getting an out of work manager, not taking a manager from the league above, having to pay compensation to his current club and probably significantly increase his wages.

[adriansfc]

Still 1/4 on VC.

[SaintRichmond]

How about

Keegan Director of Football
Nigel Adkins Coach
Alan Shearer Coaches best chum
Martin O' Neil Football consultant to the coach
Phil Brown Football advisor to the coach

OR, Phil Brown as Driver of the Coach

[Dr Who?]

The cheap option would be getting an out of work manager, not taking a manager from the league above, having to pay compensation to his current club and probably significantly increase his wages.

Cannot see why we would pay compensation for a manager like this? Does not make sense to me for the big future that SFC have!

[for_heaven's_Saint]

The odds still don't necessarily mean anything, even if they've gone to 1/20 or been taken off. Just means a lot of people have put money on him, doesn't mean they're ITK.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Cannot see why we would pay compensation for a manager like this? Does not make sense to me for the big future that SFC have!

How does it not make sense? He could succeed just like any other manager. He's done brilliantly at S****horpe, hence why he has been touted for numerous vacant managers jobs in the Championship in the last year, and as such, if we want him we're going to have to pay for him.

[buctootim]

The odds still don't necessarily mean anything, even if they've gone to 1/20 or been taken off. Just means a lot of people have put money on him, doesn't mean they're ITK.

its not even that much momey -just a couple of chunky bets
http://www.walsall.web-fans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=905:former-aston-villa-and-celtic-manager-martin-oneill-odds-slashed-for-southampton-vacancy&catid=5:league-one-news&Itemid=5

[adriansfc]

The odds still don't necessarily mean anything, even if they've gone to 1/20 or been taken off. Just means a lot of people have put money on him, doesn't mean they're ITK.

Odds like that generally mean a lot. When lots of money went on MON, he went to evens, so he was never odds on. 1/20 is very likely to happen.

[adriansfc]

its not even that much momey -just a couple of chunky bets
http://www.walsall.web-fans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=905:former-aston-villa-and-celtic-manager-martin-oneill-odds-slashed-for-southampton-vacancy&catid=5:league-one-news&Itemid=5

That was the MON story a couple of days ago, and odds will come in when someone is 33/1 and people start betting big. Adkins has steadily become more and more likely throughout.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

its not even that much momey -just a couple of chunky bets
http://www.walsall.web-fans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=905:former-aston-villa-and-celtic-manager-martin-oneill-odds-slashed-for-southampton-vacancy&catid=5:league-one-news&Itemid=5

£5000?! They must be confident!

[supersonic]

In defence to Phil Brown (He's not my prefered choice)

alot of people have accused him of being a bit wasteful when being at Hull in the PL, which he was when spending stupid amounts on players and giving them stupid wages...

...but I think he did this because he had to, the team that went up from the championship wasn't good enough and wasn't built to go up (I think we beat them 4-0 that year) and so suprised himself in a way when they went up.

If he was at Saints i'm sure he'd build a team capable of competing up there

[Northant Saint]

Is Adkins the right man? A lot of pressure on his shoulders, nothing like his experience at Scunny. Also, I think it was Pardews name that attracted a lot of our better players in the first place- will they walk?

Hope i'm wrong.

[channonwindmill]

http://www.thisiss****horpe.co.uk/sport/ADKINS-KEEPS-UNITED-FOCUS/article-2615875-detail/article.html

Edit: Already posted, sorry. And it doesn't work anyway. Bit of a balls up all round if I'm honest...

[derry]

I've been told there was an interview in Nth Hants this am and Cortese is now back at SMS. The thought is that things are moving. After getting permission to speak to Adkins last night it could possibly have been him. If reports of the press hanging around at SMS are true they may have a lead.

[Appy]

People really do forget where we are, Adkins has done brilliantly at S****horpe, getting promotion from this league, which we are currently struggling to acheive.

He has kept a small squad in the Championship, ahead of teams like Sheffield Wednesday and Peterborough, teams with far bigger budgets than theirs.

People need to stop being so snobbish and get real. Adkins would be a very good appointment.

[saint lard]

If i'm honest,i hope Adkins did not interview well.

[dubai_phil]

If i'm honest,i hope Adkins did not interview well.

He better be wearing an Italian Suit to the Interview, ain't gonna hack it in a Marks & Sparks off the peg number

[thorpie the sinner]

He better be wearing an Italian Suit to the Interview, ain't gonna hack it in a Marks & Sparks off the peg number

What about Primark?

[Dr Who?]

People really do forget where we are, Adkins has done brilliantly at S****horpe, getting promotion from this league, which we are currently struggling to acheive.

He has kept a small squad in the Championship, ahead of teams like Sheffield Wednesday and Peterborough, teams with far bigger budgets than theirs.

People need to stop being so snobbish and get real. Adkins would be a very good appointment.

Do not disagree with what you are saying, but do not think he is right for Saints. Players will leave and not be replaced and he will be out before the end of the season. I just cannot see it working. As I have said before if he gets in I will 100% support him, but do not think it will work for us as a club unless it is along side someone else.

I still think we could be in with a suprise!

[derry]

Imo there are only three standout candidates around our level that tick the attractive football box, Adkins, O'Driscoll and Howe.

[Appy]

Imo there are only three standout candidates around our level that tick the attractive football box, Adkins, O'Driscoll and Howe.

Lee Clark?

[sfc1976]

Probably turn into another Paul Sturrock....hope not though.

[Dr Who?]

I feel a divided fan base as per normal! But hey it is all fun! Just hope he gets off to a flyer.

[SaintRichmond]

the fans patience will be thin if we get a manager who doesn't make us sit up. A 'name' will get more time than an Adkins of the world.
IMO there is a good chance that we wont go up this season, as the fans will be very edgy unless we start to look like a proper team. That will in turn cause its own pressures.
If this goes wrong and the fans turn, NC will walk and the family may lose interest.NC may have faced pressure in business but it is nothing like the stuff football fans can administor.
The saga is starting up again.
Of course if we get an appointment that can satisfy the majority things could be more positive, but i suggest Adkins will not be that person.
I will support who comes in but I dont see the players or fans getting anything from an appointment like him/Brown?Hart etc

Only a few short weeks ago, the Family AND Cortese stated that they would continue to carry out Markus Leibherrs wishes, ie the Five Year Plan to get us back to the Prem

Cortese does not strike me as the sort of person to "walk". He already knows that Pardew's departure has not gone down well without any explanation, yet he still chooses NOT to tell us/anyone anything

[thorpie the sinner]

I've been told there was an interview in Nth Hants this am and Cortese is now back at SMS. The thought is that things are moving. After getting permission to speak to Adkins last night it could possibly have been him. If reports of the press hanging around at SMS are true they may have a lead.

wonder if Cortese came back with Adkins or alone????? could be telling!

[Dr Who?]

who ever he is!

[ottery st mary]

Zola name still being touted in the pubs of Sidmouth and Ottery St Mary....By me

But the locals not convinced that Tisdale is not up in aMPSHIRE..

I WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THEM..

[dubai_phil]

There are no press outside SMS.

There isn't it amazing what technology can do. All you need is someone with a web cam and a decent set of hacking software.

Getting close but so far only found memos relating to staff being off work sick in catering after they test the pies for sale. Apparently they only stock the ones that get a 100% sick-day ratio

[thorpie the sinner]

There are no press outside SMS.

There isn't it amazing what technology can do. All you need is someone with a web cam and a decent set of hacking software.

Getting close but so far only found memos relating to staff being off work sick in catering after they test the pies for sale. Apparently they only stock the ones that get a 100% sick-day ratio

Are you on google earth again Phil?

[yorkiesaint]

To all those that think Adkins is the wrong man because he's only ever managed players bought on a small budget: If we appoint Adkins, I think it means NC is looking for someone with experience of working on a shoestring budget, because that is exactly what NC intends to give the new manager.

The appointment of Adkins would be a sign that the days of (relatively) big-spending southampton are behind us.

[charliemiller]

Still dont think it will be anyone WITH a job that we have to pay compensation for.

Better candidates are available Free of Charge....

Dont forget Cortese is a Banker at heart , value for money is everything to him . Besides I dont think the purse is bulging currently.

Adkins /Howe ...will cost money
Keegan/MON.....Free of charge

Hmmmmmm

Worringly Brown ....Free of charge and cheap wages !!

[merrimd]

For what reason? 3 and a half seasons as S****horpe manager and he's got then out of league 1 twice.

I think I would prefer it if he had got them out of league 1 just once!

[derry]

Adkins - Sports psychology diploma, business and finance degree, UEFA coaching badges, taken the applied management in professional football course at Warwick Business School, A qualified physiotherapist. Took Bangor to qualifying stages of the Champions League, two promotions and kept S****horpe in the hampionship on an average gate of 6383, 14559 less than we had never mind all our other financial assets.

He sounds like an outstanding manager and he's 45 not a young manager like Eddie Howe and has shown his loyalty by staying 14 years at S****horpe to date.

[derry]

Lee Clark?
definitely.

[SFC Forever]

I still think someone like Paul Jewell would do a good job for us. Adkins I can accept and would also fully expect him to lift us up to the CCC. Howe i would also accept but as more of a gamble.
MON I would treat to a slap up meal.

[adriansfc]

Still dont think it will be anyone WITH a job that we have to pay compensation for.

Better candidates are available Free of Charge....

Dont forget Cortese is a Banker at heart , value for money is everything to him . Besides I dont think the purse is bulging currently.

Adkins /Howe ...will cost money
Keegan/MON.....Free of charge

Hmmmmmm

Worringly Brown ....Free of charge and cheap wages !!

Are you suggesting MON, if he wanted to come here, which he probably doesn't, would be cheaper than Adkins?

[Dr Who?]

To all those that think Adkins is the wrong man because he's only ever managed players bought on a small budget: If we appoint Adkins, I think it means NC is looking for someone with experience of working on a shoestring budget, because that is exactly what NC intends to give the new manager.

The appointment of Adkins would be a sign that the days of (relatively) big-spending southampton are behind us.

100% my worry, player exits, not replaced and back to where we were with Lowe, but in NC case the club will be sold when he has recouped monies.

This is my main fear that the dream and the great year we had is ending.... I think it is just the Saints fan way of thinking doom and gloom!!

[yorkiesaint]

I still think someone like Paul Jewell would do a good job for us. Adkins I can accept and would also fully expect him to lift us up to the CCC. Howe i would also accept but as more of a gamble.
MON I would treat to a slap up meal.

You must be on a wind-up about Jewell? He's never going to recover from the naked photos.

[OldNick]

He sounds like an outstanding manager and he's 45 not a young manager like Eddie Howe and has shown his loyalty by staying 14 years at S****horpe to date. perhaps he's been there that long because nobody else wanted him. Useful though as he could do the books massages and manage, are you sure it is not Dubai Phil as he did all that before the forum match

[adriansfc]

IMO, Adkins reminds me of Moyes at Preston, and Everton's gamble on him.

[derry]

perhaps he's been there that long because nobody else wanted him. Useful though as he could do the books massages and manage, are you sure it is not Dubai Phil as he did all that before the forum match

10 years as the physio, but then so was Bob Paisley and Bertie Mee and look what they achieved at the highest levels.

[dubai_phil]

Are you on google earth again Phil?

Bah, far better than that. Now think of the biggest nation on earth (ego wise) and where they currently have all their resources (army) and then all you need is a way to hack in to their Sat system. Hell anyone can do that - they show you on enough movies.



OR my mate the taxi driver just dropped someone at the Docks and drove past and txt'd me.

I prefer the first version myself

[ottery st mary]

NC world tour in search of new manager...


Visits North Amps.....

Zola/ Clarke territory me thinks...

Dream team on the move...

[Appy]

Still dont think it will be anyone WITH a job that we have to pay compensation for.

Better candidates are available Free of Charge....

Dont forget Cortese is a Banker at heart , value for money is everything to him . Besides I dont think the purse is bulging currently.

Adkins /Howe ...will cost money
Keegan/MON.....Free of charge

Hmmmmmm

Worringly Brown ....Free of charge and cheap wages !!

Judging by your location this can be put down in your current state.

But to think that Adkins or Howe would be cheaper than O'Neil or Keegan is beyond crazy.

[Greenridge]

Sorry if already posted but there's a new article on SSN ref Adkins

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_6364741,00.html

...reading between the lines I'd say he's definitely been talking to Southampton

[Saint Billy]

Bloody ITK's, cant even get it right about the press at the stadium!

Thanks DP for the update!

[Giordano]

If its to be someone who knows what they are doing in getting out of Division One Adkins is the outstanding candidate.

He may even be good enough for the CC - but if you want the outstanding guy for the CC its probably Billy Davies.

If you want someone to stay in the Premiership and punch above your weight then probably Allardyce is your man.

If you want to get into europe without going too mental then MON is the guy.

Right now NC need only concern himself with number one. And thats what i think he will choose. And he'd be right to as well. Its not as sexy as Keegan or MON but Adkins gurantees promotion much more than the glamour names, as counterintuitive as it seems.

I wouldnt get a ferrari to do my weekly sainsburys shop even if i thought i might need it for a drive in a few years time. If i got a problem with my plumbing i call the best local plumber - not the guy who fixes the hoover dam. If i needed to drill a hole in a piece of wood i wouldnt use a mont blanc pen with 24ct gold nib, id use a black and decker.If i wanted to show that i know my football id pick the manager most likely to get me the title " div 1 champions 2010" on our honours board. I think that will be Adkins.

[Appy]

Scunny Fans seem sure he is off.


I assume it's us that will be the last to know.

[OldNick]

Bah, far better than that. Now think of the biggest nation on earth (ego wise) and where they currently have all their resources (army) and then all you need is a way to hack in to their Sat system. Hell anyone can do that - they show you on enough movies.



OR my mate the taxi driver just dropped someone at the Docks and drove past and txt'd me.

I prefer the first version myself

it must be the first one as the second theory falls on its face as you put put 'mate' and so that is just too far fetched

[stug76]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

[pimpin4rizeal]

starting to go off the idea of o neil as manager now, hes a great manager and all that but wed always be worrying that he would move on as soon as a liverpool man city job became available. his appointment may be too much too soon for us.
im warming a bit to phil brown especially over adkins. brown did a great job at hull and his promotion to the prem and staying there is more than adkins has achieved.
i still hope for one of sven. hoddle or leonardo that would be the the best outcome imo

[dubai_phil]

it must be the first one as the second theory falls on its face as you put put 'mate' and so that is just too far fetched

OK enuff already, the Geezer that I bring Duty Free smokes back for when I need a lift to the airport or a ticket for the game.

He has one of them nice posh 8 seat motor thingys.

Always runs me around in his beaten up old Corsa. Anyway he was in the big beast and took time to drive past

[Wade Garrett]

Adkins - Sports psychology diploma, business and finance degree, UEFA coaching badges, taken the applied management in professional football course at Warwick Business School, A qualified physiotherapist. Took Bangor to qualifying stages of the Champions League, two promotions and kept S****horpe in the hampionship on an average gate of 6383, 14559 less than we had never mind all our other financial assets.

He sounds like an outstanding manager and he's 45 not a young manager like Eddie Howe and has shown his loyalty by staying 14 years at S****horpe to date.

He sounds like someone good at exams.

Brian Clough once got his league medals out to young Nigel and said "There you are, there's my A levels".

I think Alex Ferguson might have a City and Guilds in welding.

[Doctoroncall]

The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/08/phil-brown-southampton-manager-talks) are stating Brown hoping to be named.

[Wade Garrett]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

We've been here before. I would rather Le Tiss said nothing. Unfortunately, he likes getting paid for interviews. Like you say, comments like these don't help the club, just like failed takeovers because you don't have a pot to **** in don't.

[Ken Tone]

I've been told there was an interview in Nth Hants this am and Cortese is now back at SMS. The thought is that things are moving. After getting permission to speak to Adkins last night it could possibly have been him. If reports of the press hanging around at SMS are true they may have a lead.

North Hants! Who's the manager of Basingstoke Town?

Mind you, personally I think I'm going for this Victor Chandler fella. All the smart money seems to be going to him.

[OldNick]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help. that is very sad if he is starting to slate the club. it would be best if he kept a dignified silence, especially after the betting scandal is in full swing at present

[Wade Garrett]

If its to be someone who knows what they are doing in getting out of Division One Adkins is the outstanding candidate.

He may even be good enough for the CC - but if you want the outstanding guy for the CC its probably Billy Davies.

If you want someone to stay in the Premiership and punch above your weight then probably Allardyce is your man.

If you want to get into europe without going too mental then MON is the guy.

Right now NC need only concern himself with number one. And thats what i think he will choose. And he'd be right to as well. Its not as sexy as Keegan or MON but Adkins gurantees promotion much more than the glamour names, as counterintuitive as it seems.

I wouldnt get a ferrari to do my weekly sainsburys shop even if i thought i might need it for a drive in a few years time. If i got a problem with my plumbing i call the best local plumber - not the guy who fixes the hoover dam. If i needed to drill a hole in a piece of wood i wouldnt use a mont blanc pen with 24ct gold nib, id use a black and decker.If i wanted to show that i know my football id pick the manager most likely to get me the title " div 1 champions 2010" on our honours board. I think that will be Adkins.

You must like that post because I've seen it before. What about managers who have achieved at all levels of the game (Keegan, O'Neill). That way you wouldn't have to change managers everytime you get promoted.

Crap analogy.

[shurlock]

He sounds like someone good at exams.

Brian Clough once got his league medals out to young Nigel and said "There you are, their's my A levels".

I think Alex Ferguson might have a City and Guilds in welding.

Can imagine NC is the type to be impressed by new-fangled qualifications and management fads.

[Ken Tone]

The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/08/phil-brown-southampton-manager-talks) are stating Brown hoping to be named.


not really what that article says is it? It actually just tells us that Brown wants the job, not that he's likely to get it

[OldNick]

OK enuff already, the Geezer that I bring Duty Free smokes back for when I need a lift to the airport or a ticket for the game.

He has one of them nice posh 8 seat motor thingys.

Always runs me around in his beaten up old Corsa. Anyway he was in the big beast and took time to drive past ohhhh i forgot about him, damnation

[surrey1saint]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

This is why MON or KK won't come to us IMO.

[S-Clarke]

that is very sad if he is starting to slate the club. it would be best if he kept a dignified silence, especially after the betting scandal is in full swing at present

it is a shame, but the way Cortese has treated him is nothing but disgusting.

[Wade Garrett]

North Hants! Who's the manager of Basingstoke Town?

Mind you, personally I think I'm going for this Victor Chandler fella. All the smart money seems to be going to him.

What if some big bets went on Adkins to keep the price up on other candidates.

Just a thought.

[Wade Garrett]

Can imagine NC is the type to be impressed by new-fangled qualifications and management fads.

Can imagine Reed is. It keeps him in work.

[adriansfc]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

That's really not helping, it's still a good job. How much does he know about the chairman? Suppose Dodd would tell him so perhaps he does know what's going on. Worrying anyway.

[adriansfc]

This is why MON or KK won't come to us IMO.

It's very difficult to please the fans if they blame you for not appointing MON, when there is no real indication he'd have been at all interested in coming here.

[Scudamore]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

He sure did put the boot in didn't he?


starting to go off the idea of o neil as manager now, hes a great manager and all that but wed always be worrying that he would move on as soon as a liverpool man city job became available. his appointment may be too much too soon for us.
im warming a bit to phil brown especially over adkins. brown did a great job at hull and his promotion to the prem and staying there is more than adkins has achieved.
i still hope for one of sven. hoddle or leonardo that would be the the best outcome imo

that's the sort of attitude that would see you screwing fat chicks for the rest of ya life...

[Greenridge]

That's really not helping, it's still a good job. How much does he know about the chairman? Suppose Dodd would tell him so perhaps he does know what's going on. Worrying anyway.

I'm sure he knows more about the Chairman than any one poster on here despite what the ITKers would have you believe. I don't agree with him going public on this but at the same time it would be foolhardy not to atleast listen to what he has to say. There is a significant ground swell against NC right now and there must be some substance behind it. Personally I find it a worrying time for the Club.

[ottery st mary]

Adkins - Sports psychology diploma, business and finance degree, UEFA coaching badges, taken the applied management in professional football course at Warwick Business School, A qualified physiotherapist. Took Bangor to qualifying stages of the Champions League, two promotions and kept S****horpe in the hampionship on an average gate of 6383, 14559 less than we had never mind all our other financial assets.

He sounds like an outstanding manager and he's 45 not a young manager like Eddie Howe and has shown his loyalty by staying 14 years at S****horpe to date.


So glad you are happy now derry.....Thought Pards was going to do for you..

Talking of certificates etc....Not as many as Sir Less...But then to some he is God..

Let us pray for the right decision.........

Up the Saints....

[The Godfather]

I'm sure he knows more about the Chairman than any one poster on here despite what the ITKers would have you believe. I don't agree with him going public on this but at the same time it would be foolhardy not to atleast listen to what he has to say. There is a significant ground swell against NC right now and there must be some substance behind it. Personally I find it a worrying time for the Club.

I don't think he knows anything about whats going on at the club, he may heard things through other people or things throught the media who also know bugger all whats going on at the club. It was the same with Mark Dennis on the radio the other day, ex-pros like to think they know is going on but know nothing, just rumour & conjection.

[SaintRichmond]

starting to go off the idea of o neil as manager now, hes a great manager and all that but wed always be worrying that he would move on as soon as a liverpool man city job became available. his appointment may be too much too soon for us.
im warming a bit to phil brown especially over adkins. brown did a great job at hull and his promotion to the prem and staying there is more than adkins has achieved.
i still hope for one of sven. hoddle or leonardo that would be the the best outcome imo

As at today, what do we need ??

A Prem Quality Manager ??? NO

A Manager to get us out of the CCC and into the Prem ??? NO

A Manager to get us out of Division One ??? YES

Nigel Adkins will do that

Anything else he does after that would be a Bonus

[Greenridge]

I'm sorry but if you don't think he knows exactly what is going on at the Club you are kidding yourself.

[buctootim]

10 years as the physio, but then so was Bob Paisley and Bertie Mee and look what they achieved at the highest levels.

Ive seen him quoted as saying his wife was very ill at one point, which is why he took the break from managing and became a physio because he needed a steady job so he could look after her and their kids. Thats why his career appears to have stalled in the middle.

[stug76]

it is a shame, but the way Cortese has treated him is nothing but disgusting.

I'm not aware of anything between them - not being obtuse, just don't know. Is there a link?

If people are put off by the chairman as a result of what he says not just in the press but also via "the network" of old players does he really have the best interest of the club at heart or is he following his own agenda. If so, he is abusing/letting down the loyal fanbase that idolise him. Very disappointed.

On a brighter note, do you think that Martin O'neil will be getting a season ticket now he is going to be living locally? It would be cool sitting next to him.

[Chez]

The appointment of Adkins would be a sign that the days of (relatively) big-spending southampton are behind us.

Not necessarily. It might be a sign that Adkins is perceived as being the best available and interested candidate to get the club promotion. And who is to argue with that?

[The Godfather]

I'm sorry but if you don't think he knows exactly what is going on at the Club you are kidding yourself.

I am not kidding myself, their are very few people who know whats going on. MLT may know a little at best but certainly not exactly whats going on.

[Window Cleaner]

Which allows anyone to pretty much say anything.

anyway this has been scientifically disproven for a long time now

[dubai_phil]

So glad you are happy now derry.....Thought Pards was going to do for you..

Talking of certificates etc....Not as many as Sir Less...But then to some he is God..

Let us pray for the right decision.........

Up the Saints....

Ah yes, but you notice that Derry is very non-commital in his support....

Unless he plays two wide men and uses the width of the pitch he'll never get his approval

;)

[Chez]

I've been told there was an interview in Nth Hants this am and Cortese is now back at SMS. The Oxford manager Chris Wilding was listed in the betting odds as I recall. I don't see him as a possible but location might fit.

[yorkiesaint]

Not necessarily. It might be a sign that Adkins is perceived as being the best available and interested candidate to get the club promotion. And who is to argue with that?

It might be, but what I'm sure will appeal to Cortese is how little money he will need to spend to get us out of league 1, or to stabilise us in the championship. We are going to be the Ryanair of the football league IMHO.

[Greenridge]

I am not kidding myself, their are very few people who know whats going on. MLT may know a little at best but certainly not exactly whats going on.

OK let's remove the word 'exactly' from both our posts and then agree that he know's 'enough' to be able to comment on the state of the Club?

[Chez]

I am not kidding myself, their are very few people who know whats going on. MLT may know a little at best but certainly not exactly whats going on.is there anyone senior left at SFC these days that was there when MLT was there?

[Topcat]

I don't think he knows anything about whats going on at the club, he may heard things through other people or things throught the media who also know bugger all whats going on at the club. It was the same with Mark Dennis on the radio the other day, ex-pros like to think they know is going on but know nothing, just rumour & conjection.

I would trust Le Tiss to know what is going on at the Club. If he says that the Chairman is unfit to run the Club i trust him to know from people inside the Club what Cortese is really like. Even Lowelife was not stupid enough to ban all newspaper photographers.

[Greenridge]

Ah yes, but you notice that Derry is very non-commital in his support....

Unless he plays two wide men and uses the width of the pitch he'll never get his approval

;)

That Lallana fellow is still pretty useless I understand

[Chez]

It might be, but what I'm sure will appeal to Cortese is how little money he will need to spend to get us out of league 1, or to stabilise us in the championship. We are going to be the Ryanair of the football league IMHO.

Has he shown himself to be a chairman that prefers to take the cheaper option? Hard to say. He may the sort of chairman that gets the right man within the budget available.

What do you mean by Ryanair?

[OldNick]

I would trust Le Tiss to know what is going on at the Club. If he says that the Chairman is unfit to run the Club i trust him to know from people inside the Club what Cortese is really like. Even Lowelife was not stupid enough to ban all newspaper photographers. It could be said that MLT also said that Pinnacle were fit to run the club, so he not above making mistakes. I again say he was my absolute hero on the pitch. Since he hung up his boots the flaws have become more apparent. Please Matt stop giving interviews if you are going to knock the club, as it hurts the pro and anti fans

[Wes Tender]

I would trust Le Tiss to know what is going on at the Club. If he says that the Chairman is unfit to run the Club i trust him to know from people inside the Club what Cortese is really like. Even Lowelife was not stupid enough to ban all newspaper photographers.

Firstly I would not place credence on MLT knowing what was going on in the club, as most of the personnel have changed since he was there.

Secondly, I would not place much credence on his ability to judge whether the Chairman was fit or not to run the club. His judgement on several business ventures that have failed and his association with Pinnacle hardly points to his outstanding business nous, does it?

As for whether Lowe was a shining example of how to deal with the press, then people either have very short, or very selective memories.

I treasure happy memories of MLT as a footballer and also enjoy his TV punditry. However, that is where the line should be drawn, or else he will alienate those who loved him.

[Royce2uk]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read!

[buctootim]

What do you mean by Ryanair?

I guess its meant as a putdown, but ignores the fact that Ryanair is the most successfulairline around.

[pimpin4rizeal]

As at today, what do we need ??

A Prem Quality Manager ??? NO

A Manager to get us out of the CCC and into the Prem ??? NO

A Manager to get us out of Division One ??? YES

Nigel Adkins will do that

Anything else he does after that would be a Bonus

yes but wouldnt you rather we could keep our manager all the way to the premiership?
everybody cries about stability then talks about getting a manager for each league were in.
adkins doesnt convince me at all he could be a one club wonder where it worked cos he had the players ears from being a physio.
not to mention the relegation in between

[Chin Strain]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read!

This is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, a reputable hotel in Eastleigh.......FFS.:x

[Royce2uk]

Ok well as reptable as it can get for eastleigh! Just think near to the airport so its a perfect location to meet.

[ohwhenthesaints]

Did this John Gregory guy work with O'Neill at Villa?

[Saint Garrett]

Well that restaurant was due a visit from a football manager at some point!

[buctootim]

John Gregory and Les Reed in tryst at the Southampton Airport Premier Lodge. Football doesnt get more glamorous than that :)

[Nexstar]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read!

I like to think I take more than just an 'interest' in the Saints, but if Les Reed walked passed me I wouldn't have a clue who he was.

[fish fingers]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read!

It's quite staggering how many of these stories are comng from people with a very low post count.

[shurlock]

John Gregory and Les Reed in tryst at the Southampton Airport Premier Lodge. Football doesnt get more glamorous than that :)

Back to the good old days. When grit wasn't just something you found in your exec lounge oysters and canapes.

[OldNick]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read! yet another Skate trying to wind us up Lol. Bless.
No doubt deacon , venables and Storrie were at the meeting as well.
As for a non football fan recognising Les Reed Lol.......Les Dennis perhaps

[manji]

Le Tissier just been on Talksport, said he wouldn't recommend the Job of Southampton manager to anyone because of the chairman! Great player, and all that but these sort of comments don't help.

Blatently MLT has an agenda. He needs Cortese to fail because his success will show up even more the utter lameness of the Pinnacle bid. Dont forget Matts paymaster is Rupert Murdoch (Sky,Talksport.The Sun) who also have an agenda.
Anyone that believes that MLTs best interest is with the club is deluded I'm afraid.

[Royce2uk]

yet another Skate trying to wind us up Lol. Bless.
No doubt deacon , venables and Storrie were at the meeting as well.
As for a non football fan recognising Les Reed Lol.......Les Dennis perhaps

Ha good times. this post and the one about being a low poster are the reason why i dont actually post too often on here. You get shot down too easily and people to willing to have a go at you. I was merely just saying what i have seen.

Anyways its just a bit of info i thought you might like. feel free to ignore it but we may be seeign a lot more of John Gregory than any of us would ever want to!

[fish fingers]

Ha good times. this post and the one about being a low poster are the reason why i dont actually post too often on here. You get shot down too easily and people to willing to have a go at you. I was merely just saying what i have seen.

Anyways its just a bit of info i thought you might like. feel free to ignore it but we may be seeign a lot more of John Gregory than any of us would ever want to!

I hope so, John Gregory, or Greggers as i like to call him is a top top manager.

[St.Patrik]

Its close now according to the echo ...hmmmm http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8378954.Adkins_on_brink_of_Saints_job/?ref=rss

[dubai_phil]

Ha good times. this post and the one about being a low poster are the reason why i dont actually post too often on here. You get shot down too easily and people to willing to have a go at you. I was merely just saying what i have seen.

Anyways its just a bit of info i thought you might like. feel free to ignore it but we may be seeign a lot more of John Gregory than any of us would ever want to!

And why wouldn't someobody stuck in a foregin land TRY and get a job.

Thank fook they sent the B team to talk to him and not NC

[dubai_phil]

Its close now according to the echo ...hmmmm http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8378954.Adkins_on_brink_of_Saints_job/?ref=rss

Brian Close?

Glen Close?

[Tokyo-Saint]

I might be adding up 2 + 2 and getting 5! I work at a reputable hotel in Eastleigh and a certain Mr John Gregory, once of Aston villa and now FC Ashdod in Israel, was checked in to a room last night.

One of my female colleagues, who doesn't really know much about football but has an interest in the Saints saw Les Reed in the resturant section yesterday having a meal. After seeing John Gregorys name in the database, and have had it confirmed from someone above me it is him, I described him to my colleague and he matched the description of Reed's date.

I don't wanna be shot down for this but thought it might be worth a read!


It could be 2+2 = 5.

He used to live in Valley Park, I know as I played football with his son, Stuart. They still have friends in the area so could just be visiting.

[Liquidshokk]

Its close now according to the echo ...hmmmm http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8378954.Adkins_on_brink_of_Saints_job/?ref=rss

Sounds like a done deal. Cant see even the echo sounding that sure if they didnt know something....

[Dr Who?]

Blatently MLT has an agenda. He needs Cortese to fail because his success will show up even more the utter lameness of the Pinnacle bid. Dont forget Matts paymaster is Rupert Murdoch (Sky,Talksport.The Sun) who also have an agenda.
Anyone that believes that MLTs best interest is with the club is deluded I'm afraid.

I am sorry but Matt Le Tissier loves the football and and hurts when all the fans hurt. That is all he is a passioniate fan of the club, and sometimes emotions get the better of you. Just take a look on here!!!

[SaintRichmond]

It might be, but what I'm sure will appeal to Cortese is how little money he will need to spend to get us out of league 1, or to stabilise us in the championship. We are going to be the Ryanair of the football league IMHO.

Allegedly, we already have the best squad in Div 1

So why would anyone have to spend bucketloads ???

[bjk]

Nigel Adkins will get us promoted.

[SaintRichmond]

yes but wouldnt you rather we could keep our manager all the way to the premiership?
everybody cries about stability then talks about getting a manager for each league were in.
adkins doesnt convince me at all he could be a one club wonder where it worked cos he had the players ears from being a physio.
not to mention the relegation in between

YES, of course, but only if he was "capable"

I started off AS AT TODAY, WHAT DO WE NEED ???

IMHO Having Martin O'Neil as Manager would NOT have GUARENTEED Promotion from where we are at the moment

Adkins is Streetwise for Div 1, and because of that, for our PRESENT predicament, better suited to get us up IMHO

[thorpie the sinner]

Call me stupid but I am still waiting for a twist!

[SO16_Saint]

Call me stupid but I am still waiting for a twist!

stupid

[adriansfc]

We'll win the league under Adkins, IMO. His only struggle in the championship has been zero money and a relatively poor squad. I'm sure he wants to progress as much as us. He could have stayed and battled relegation for a few seasons there, but ultimately there isn't much potential. At worst, we can be competiting for the Championship regularly and hopefully, holding our own in the top flight again.

[explorer saint]

Adkins seems a safe but good choice but where is the wow factor and whats Shearer doing at SMS then

[Saint Billy]

Call me stupid but I am still waiting for a twist!

Who's to say Adkins will want the job after his interview with NC.

[SaintRichmond]

This is why MON or KK won't come to us IMO.

So, if Adkins screws up, we don't blame him, just interference from Reed and Cortese ???

Can't go wrong then can he ??

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

Not sure what sort of football s****horpe play but as long as we have plan B and even a plan C then I am happy. The football may not be so easy on the eye but its a results business so if it means grinding out a 1-0 ome win against Oldham who cares!

Just hope the players get on with their job and put aside the pressure and expectationsto play to their ability and win some football matches.

[Viking Warrior]

So has NC Hooked our man or is it all conjecture by all the ITK's on here

[Viking Warrior]

Am I allowed to start a new thread, once it is confirmed that it is adkins.

along the lines of who is going to succeed adkins.


PS Only JOKIN

[derry]

Not sure what sort of football s****horpe play but as long as we have plan B and even a plan C then I am happy. The football may not be so easy on the eye but its a results business so if it means grinding out a 1-0 ome win against Oldham who cares!

Just hope the players get on with their job and put aside the pressure and expectationsto play to their ability and win some football matches.

Adkins teams play good pass and move football much easier on the eye than our often hoof it up to Lambert default.

[Katalinic]

Adkins teams play good pass and move football much easier on the eye than our often hoof it up to Lambert default.

I have seen them play a few times both at SMS and on the box and have been impressed by the football his teams played.

[The Godfather]

Allegedly, we already have the best squad in Div 1

So why would anyone have to spend bucketloads ???

Best starting XI when everybody's fit but not squad.