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saint lard
30-08-2010, 07:36 AM
Rumours have been touted that Zola could quite possibly be next in line to be manager.
Now these rumours i have had given me are via the same people that put me onto the Do Prado signing.
They are Italian based and state that Cortese and Zola are longtime aquaintances...i initially stated on the Rovers build up thread that i was led to believe that if we lose that Pardew would be ousted,seems a 0-4 away win will not satisfy Cortese.
As for Zola,mmm, i'm not sure he is the man for the job.
What do you think?
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 07:37 AM
It would be a step backwards imo.
Zola seems a good fella, but he just hasn't got any real experience - especially at this level which is critical for us.
Bourno
30-08-2010, 07:39 AM
Not the right choice for league one.
Tac-tics
30-08-2010, 07:39 AM
bookies it is.
StAndy1970
30-08-2010, 07:41 AM
Martin O'Neil. That would be my choice
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 07:42 AM
Martin O'Neil. That would be my choice
Unfortunately there's no chance we can attract a manager of that level to L1. We did well to get Pardew in all honesty.
Just had a text from a mates sister who works at the De Vere, and she recons Steve Coppell is currently eating eggs benedict in the garden.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 07:44 AM
Martin O'Neil. That would be my choice
Here we go, first of the ridiculous suggestions. Que people claiming we can get any manager we want.
Son of Bob
30-08-2010, 07:46 AM
Please put any gossip or rumours about possible new Managers on this thread please.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 07:46 AM
Just had a text from a mates sister who works at the De Vere, and she recons Steve Coppell is currently eating eggs benedict in the garden.
My sisters got a mate who works as a receptionist a the BBC offfice in Cardiff and she overheard someone say on friday that apparantly Capello is to quit England after these weekends games to take over at an unnamed league One club which is just about to sack it manager. I thought it was Wallsall but now i'm not so sure.
70's Mike
30-08-2010, 07:47 AM
Zola's managerial cv hardly is impressive
My sisters got a mate who works as a receptionist a the BBC offfice in Cardiff and she overheard someone say on friday that apparantly is to quit England after these weekends friendly to take over at an unnamed league One club which is just about to sack it manager. I thought it was Wallsall but now i'm not so sure.
What does your sister look like?
Give it to Ron
30-08-2010, 07:49 AM
Doesn't make a difference who comes here....they will be gone within 6 months when we haven't won...the league, FA Cup, JPT and qualified for Europe!!!
My money is on Zola.
lewpylew
30-08-2010, 07:49 AM
My dad reckons Pardew will end up at Villa and maybe Zola will come here.....! We'll see if he's right! Would love Martin O'Neill if I had a choice but don't think we have a chance of getting him.
old_southy
30-08-2010, 07:50 AM
Betting Pro says that Alan Curbishley and Kevin Blackwell are two of the names being mentioned to take charge.
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
StAndy1970
30-08-2010, 07:51 AM
Here we go, first of the ridiculous suggestions. Que people claiming we can get any manager we want.
As for ridiculous, why is it? All I said was that it would be my choice? Back in the early 80's we once signed a player by the name of Kevin Keagan who was the European footballer of the year. Now how ridiculous was that? It still happened though proving anything is possible especially with Saints financial clout now. Easy to be sarcastic behind a computer screen isnt it?
saint lard
30-08-2010, 07:51 AM
I hope it is not Coppell.
Would love Martin O'neil but highly unlikely.
I'm not overly excited at the prospect of Zola tbh.
70's Mike
30-08-2010, 07:52 AM
Betting Pro says that Alan Curbishley and Kevin Blackwell are two of the names being mentioned to take charge.
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
good shouts but not convinced they are any better than Pardew
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 07:52 AM
Betting Pro says that Alan Curbishley and Kevin Blackwell are two of the names being mentioned to take charge.
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
yikes..
lordswoodsaints
30-08-2010, 07:53 AM
Zola would be sh!t
Red And White Barmy Army
30-08-2010, 07:53 AM
Not Zola FFS! tactical nous of an eskimo in the sahara.
Nadia Sllim
30-08-2010, 07:54 AM
have said before Martin O 'Neil and went to get price from bookies last week and the girl could not give me odds! Doh...
Also feel that Christain Goss/Gross the old Spurs boss could be in with a shout? Swiss role perhaps!
Pilchards
30-08-2010, 07:55 AM
The bookies never get it right so I throw my hat towards a proven premiership manager that will attract 3 good players that don't make the 25 man squads while the other player will be one signed already as he's had a medical.
My bookies bet is O'Neill with Vassell the player?
But my gut feeling is it's Zola.
alpine_saint
30-08-2010, 07:56 AM
Unfortunately there's no chance we can attract a manager of that level to L1. We did well to get Pardew in all honesty.
So, NC having done it once, is incapable of doing it again, especially as he has had more time on this occasion ?
I suggest we wait to find out who it is.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 07:57 AM
As for ridiculous, why is it? All I said was that it would be my choice? Back in the early 80's we once signed a player by the name of Kevin Keagan who was the European footballer of the year. Now how ridiculous was that? It still happened though proving anything is possible especially with Saints financial clout now. Easy to be sarcastic behind a computer screen isnt it?
He would be my choice too, but do you really think a manager like Martin O'Neill is going to drop down two divisions? There is no way a manager of O'Neills reputation and ability will join a league one club.
EBS1980
30-08-2010, 07:58 AM
Not Blackwell either please, played hoof football while at Sheffield utd. Can't think of any likely options. I would guess an Italian because of NC but we need someone who knows the lower leagues but also has good contacts and well respected in order to get people to join us.
Wonder if Wilkins will leave once manager in too if not wonder why he is only one to survive?!
Tony F
30-08-2010, 07:59 AM
A change of manager at this stage of the season is normally a step back.
Over the last season-and-a-bit, AP has assembled a squad of players that fit his bill...whether it gets 100% support of Saints Forum or not, that's the way he will have built the squad.
A new manager comes in and finds that he wants to play a slightly different way (inevitably) and, surprise surprise, hasn't got exactly the righjt tool box set-up for the job he wants to do.
Fitting of round pegs into square holes normally ensues, followed by disgruntlement of the old manager's chosen men, followed by ..... (insert your own conclusion here)
eesti matty
30-08-2010, 08:00 AM
Les Reed!!! Pardew replaced Reed at Charlton, now this is Reed's revenge! ha ha
Thorpe-le-Saint
30-08-2010, 08:00 AM
No to Zola and other tactical morons like Phil Brown; I would settle on Curbishley.
Johnny Shearer
30-08-2010, 08:00 AM
Would be quite funny if we nicked Gus Poyet from Brighton!
Saint Charlie
30-08-2010, 08:01 AM
Eddie Howe would be ok.
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:01 AM
Zola achieved less at West Ham than AP did.No knowledge of L1 and would be a backward step.
Turdishley can f^ck off,a slimey creep who once did a good job at Charlton but on the 'West Ham scale' is probably below even Zola.
O'Neill would be an outstanding recruit - but not likely. Coppell might have been NC'S NO 1 target twelve months ago but could'nt hack it at Bristol City.
Tisdale is an up and coming manager, but probably not what we immediately need.
Fergie
30-08-2010, 08:01 AM
Do people realise Martin O'Neill was at the Leyton Orient game last sat!!?? My foingers pointing his way for that, but not sure as a league one club we'd be able to get him!!
But why would he be at the game otherwise!!
Zola does seem to make sense however with the italian connection at all. Time will tell.
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:02 AM
He would be my choice too, but do you really think a manager like Martin O'Neill is going to drop down two divisions? There is no way a manager of O'Neills reputation and ability will join a league one club.
Enough ££££ and surprising how that might change his view.
Fergie
30-08-2010, 08:03 AM
Martin O'Neill was at the Orient game last saturday...that's all I'm saying!
Turkish
30-08-2010, 08:03 AM
What does your sister look like?
Fit, like me, but with long hair. I would.
Stepgar
30-08-2010, 08:03 AM
I am surprised this got on the sticky to be honest.
Oops just seen the OS!! Wrong decision in my mind.
NickG
30-08-2010, 08:04 AM
Do people realise Martin O'Neill was at the Leyton Orient game last sat!!?? My foingers pointing his way for that, but not sure as a league one club we'd be able to get him!!
But why would he be at the game otherwise!!
Zola does seem to make sense however with the italian connection at all. Time will tell.
no.
Joey-deacons-left-nut
30-08-2010, 08:05 AM
So, what's Sven up too these days?
croydonsaint
30-08-2010, 08:06 AM
One safe bet is that Cortese will not be the cause of any leaks regarding appointment before the event. I also bet that.
1. any odds offered from bookmakers will not be based on any factual knowledge but 100% speculation.
2. We will hear about it first on the O.S.
fish fingers
30-08-2010, 08:07 AM
Would love it to be Eddie Howe just for the enjoyment of ****ing the cherries off.
FYI Ruud Gullit just pulled up next to me and i saw his Sat Nav was set to St Marys.
FabFrenchOak
30-08-2010, 08:08 AM
O'neil would be a dream - will he want to come down 2 divisions? Maybe if he gets management support and time, not sure the board will give him all that.
Vialli anyone, could be interesting but
Zola as a player maybe as manager maybe not
coppel, curbishley not better than Pardew
I heard that an ex french national coach is available (Domenech anyone? ... jeez that would be a nightmare). Not better than money grabbing Ericsson.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 08:09 AM
Enough ££££ and surprising how that might change his view.
thats what certain people said about signing who we want, just offer them enough cash yet Danns, Stock & Bailey all rejected us. I'd love O'Neill here, but just cant see it happening.
If you get MON you will quickly forget Pardew.
The one advantage of getting Zola would be your chequebook would come out again
Turkish
30-08-2010, 08:10 AM
O'neil would be a dream - will he want to come down 2 divisions? Maybe if he gets management support and time, not sure the board will give him all that.
Vialli anyone, could be interesting but
Zola as a player maybe as manager maybe not
coppel, curbishley not better than Pardew
I heard that an ex french national coach is available (Domenech anyone? ... jeez that would be a nightmare). Not better than money grabbing Ericsson.
Probably a bit old now?
StAndy1970
30-08-2010, 08:10 AM
He would be my choice too, but do you really think a manager like Martin O'Neill is going to drop down two divisions? There is no way a manager of O'Neills reputation and ability will join a league one club.
Like I said, that would be my choice. Anything is possible in football. Who really thought Pardew would be sacked today after the side winning 4-0 away on Saturday. As one of the previous posters just said, Pardew was a premiership manager before saints and he dropped down. You would expect Cortese to do the same again, so that would rule out no-one!
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:10 AM
Eddie Howe would be ok.
I'd put him in the same category as Tisdale.A good up and coming manager, but NC is unlikely to appoint a manager to build over a couple of seasons.
He is more likely to appoint a name, possibly a 'proven one' such as Zola or Turdishley.Neither of whom I would want, and I'd prefer Howe or Tisdale to either of these frankly.
Eddie Howe? Not that I would be happy with anyone that isn't AP right now, but he is clearly talented
Son of Bob
30-08-2010, 08:11 AM
Was O'Neill at the Orient game then or is that just gossispeculation?
SO16_Saint
30-08-2010, 08:12 AM
how often do we know about player signings before they happen. think it'll be the same here - out of the blue and little/no ITK-ness
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:12 AM
Would love it to be Eddie Howe just for the enjoyment of ****ing the cherries off.
FYI Ruud Gullit just pulled up next to me and i saw his Sat Nav was set to St Marys.
Seeing your avatar - it must be a divine message from above - has made me realise Branfoot is coming back.
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:13 AM
We've exceeded 50 posts, surprised Dalek has not been on here to suggest Hoddle.
Iowsaintsfan
30-08-2010, 08:15 AM
Other than Martin O Neil there is nobody on this thread so far that would be better than AP and i very much doubt MoN will turn up, tho interesting if he was at the Orient game
Meathead
30-08-2010, 08:17 AM
This is just a rumour that I have bheard through members of my family, dont shoot the messenger.
I have been hearing for a while now that Dennis Wise and Marc Bircham were being lined up to replace Pards. Naturally I didn't want to believe it but now I thinking there could be some substance. Can't see NC and wiser getting on myself so I am still hoping this is not true.
FabFrenchOak
30-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Indeed but makes my point on how much I am not interested in him as a manager :)
lambertsrightleg
30-08-2010, 08:17 AM
Zola worked wonders on West Ham. The first year he was there they finished 10th. For a club that was being ripped apart around him that was incredible. Unfortunately last year the squad was thinner and he did well to keep them up. For anybody that thinks that he hasn't got the tactical nous or experience to take us up look at Di Matteo at WBA. Players who have played under great managers at great clubs will have the skills to succeed in the lower leagues. Look how many ex-Fergie players have succeeded at management/
wireframebox
30-08-2010, 08:18 AM
My money is on Takeshi Okada, the Japanese coach from the world cup. You heard it here first...
Hatch
30-08-2010, 08:20 AM
Maradona
Can he speak Italian after playing in Italy.. Him and Cortese could be the evil brothers team
ALWAYS_SFC
30-08-2010, 08:20 AM
Mr INSTANT success....
If you are out there...
Huntingdon
30-08-2010, 08:23 AM
As bizarre as it might seem, I wouldn't totally rule out O'Neill
He left Villa due to Lerner lacking the ambition to match his
That wouldn't be the case with Cortese, O'Neill knows he could easily embark on an exciting adventure here
saintoli
30-08-2010, 08:24 AM
Wouldn't want to see Zola but maybe Steve Clarke might step into managment. OK he lacks managerial expereince but he is well regarded in football and is out of a job at the moment. Curbs is a good shout aswell. Cant see it being Coppell. Didnt he leave Brizzle because the chairman signed James and Coppell didn't want him? Cant see him getting along with Cortese! Cant belive Blackwell is being banded about (mainly by the bookies) he has never done **** all and would be 2 steps back from AP.
saint lard
30-08-2010, 08:24 AM
Please god,not Dennis Wise,a giant leap backwards.
St.Patrik
30-08-2010, 08:25 AM
Strange that nobody has mentioned Gareth Southgate......
BLINK
30-08-2010, 08:25 AM
Eddie Howe would be good
Huffton
30-08-2010, 08:26 AM
Its obvious. Cortese will pay off Capello's England contract and he will be coming here.
St.Patrik
30-08-2010, 08:27 AM
Rather Wise then Capello - how strange is might sound
Thorpe-le-Saint
30-08-2010, 08:29 AM
please god,not dennis wise,a giant leap backwards.
this!!
WestSaint
30-08-2010, 08:31 AM
Eddie Howe would be good
Eddie Howes achievements at Bournemouth with their club unable to sign players and such a small squad have been outstanding. He has kept them in the league, promotion then followed in his first full season and they arguably have outplayed us this season with far less resource available.
One wonders what this guy could achieve if he was given the resources made available to Pardew
Huffton
30-08-2010, 08:31 AM
Rather Wise then Capello - how strange is might sound
It was a joke, least I 'effin hope it was
trousers
30-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Do people realise Martin O'Neill was at the Leyton Orient game last sat!!??
Erm, no. How would we know he was there? Was he sitting in the director's box with a big red and white hat with the words: "look at me, I'm the new Saints boss" emblazened on it? I'm surprised you were the only one to spot such an overt appearance.... ;-)
Roger
30-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Rather Wise then Capello - how strange is might sound
Mate I suggest you wake yourself up. No way we wud get cappellp but ud rather have dennis wise. Off the whisky mate
kpturner
30-08-2010, 08:32 AM
I don't like this thread
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 08:33 AM
Strange that nobody has mentioned Gareth Southgate......
Wouldn't mind him. Only got sacked at Boro because of the dwindling attendances. That ruined their season, he leaves when 4th (?) end up finishing well outside the play offs. Now this year, they've made just as good of a start as Southgate and their attendances are exactly the same.
Would absolutely love MoN down here. Plays good football and signs young, up and coming talent. But if not, i'd settle for Southgate tbh.
Other than Martin O Neil there is nobody on this thread so far that would be better than AP and i very much doubt MoN will turn up, tho interesting if he was at the Orient game
This.
Although imo there's more chance of me ****ting a scale model of the Mary Rose than O'Neill coming here.
kpturner
30-08-2010, 08:38 AM
Mate I suggest you wake yourself up. No way we wud get cappellp but ud rather have dennis wise. Off the whisky mate
You need to heed your own advise if you think either suggestion was serious!
Alain Perrin
30-08-2010, 08:38 AM
Rupert Lowe. Player manager.
markr27
30-08-2010, 08:38 AM
Would like Gary Johnson myself, but as he's just signed for Peterboro...
What's Tony Mowbury doing these days? ;)
I have a strange feeling that Southampton will announce a signing tomorrow (probably on loan), which would indicate something has already been set in place for a new broom.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 08:39 AM
Like I said, that would be my choice. Anything is possible in football. Who really thought Pardew would be sacked today after the side winning 4-0 away on Saturday. As one of the previous posters just said, Pardew was a premiership manager before saints and he dropped down. You would expect Cortese to do the same again, so that would rule out no-one!
Pardew was not a premier league manager when we got him, he had been sacked by Charlton who were at the foot of the CCC. I thought we did well to get him and i cant think of anyone who is available with a better CV than AP. It is a really strange decision, they must have someone lined up, i hope it is, but i cant see it being O'Neill.
Crab Lungs
30-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Bruno Metsu back and to bring Papa Waigo with back with him ;)
CHAPEL END CHARLIE
30-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Martin O'Neill was at the Orient game last saturday...that's all I'm saying!
Would be a truly outstanding choice - if true.
O'Neill's mentor the late, great, Brian Clough dropped down the leagues to build a under performing club (Nottingham Forest) into a real force in the game. It might represent an entirely different (and reinvigorating) type of challenge to a manager who has already proved himself in the EPL. Probably too good to be true of course, but there's no harm in dreaming I suppose.
Saint J 77
30-08-2010, 08:41 AM
None of the names for a possible replacement enthuse me. I still can't believe Cortese has sacked Pardew, he is probably the best we could hope for at our current level. I really liked Pardew, he installed a winning mentally and the current squad is his team. Will they respond to new manager? I mean whoever comes in has this squad as it is until January.
O'Neil will never happen, so who else is there realistically? Who is going to be better than what we had. Zola...no Cotterill no way so who? What a really cr@P way to start Bank Holiday Monday :(
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 08:41 AM
Would be a truly outstanding choice - if true.
O'Neill's mentor the late, great, Brian Clough dropped down the leagues to build a under performing club (Nottingham Forest) into a real force in the game. It might represent an entirely different (and reinvigorating) type of challenge to a manager who has already proved himself in the EPL. Probably too good to be true of course, but there's no harm in dreaming I suppose.
Perhaps, for a time, get himself away from the entirely money-fuelled world of the Premier League.
A change of manager at this stage of the season is normally a step back.
Seemed to work OK for Norwich last season.
Mr Saints
30-08-2010, 08:42 AM
Eddie Howe please
Under Weststand
30-08-2010, 08:43 AM
Not sure on any that have been mentioned so far, Zola may become a good manager. But is he any better than Pardew? Curbishley has been been out of the game for to long in my mind! O'Neil would be the best bet at the moment but probably wouldn't consider us especially as he wouldn't put up with NC's shenanigans. As for Wise & Blackweel PLEASE NO!
Off the wall suggestion, what about Seam O'driscoll at Doncaster, he did well at Bournemouth, & has done a great job at Doncaster with a limited budget & knows the leagues we have to get through. He seems to be a good coach who can get the best out of his players.
Asaint4ever
30-08-2010, 08:46 AM
I'm really sorry to see AP go but I I've got a good feeling Martin O'neil could be here. It's a challenge for him with the backing of the board. Coys
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 08:46 AM
Managers I can currently think of that are out of the game:
O'Neill
Sven
Zola
Blackwell
Curbishley
Coppell
Jewel
Ince
Megson
Dowie
Shearer?
Johnson
Brown
Hatch
30-08-2010, 08:47 AM
Bob Bradley
Slaven Bilic
Alan Shearer
Domenech ;-)
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 08:49 AM
Managers I can currently think of that are out of the game:
O'Neill
Sven
Zola
Blackwell
Curbishley
Coppell
Jewel
Ince
Megson
Dowie
Shearer?
Johnson
Brown
The only ones i'd accept out of that list are O'Neill and Zola. Add Southgate to them and that'd be the beginning of my shortlist.
Mr Tickle
30-08-2010, 08:50 AM
Sir Clive Woodward or Patrick Colliteer would be the obvious choice.
Deppo
30-08-2010, 08:51 AM
My mate works in the Etap Hotel and he says that Tommy Widdrington was in there having a bowl of Coco Pops this morning.
Um Bongo
30-08-2010, 08:54 AM
Joachim Löw
Cortese is keen on Ramon Vega, according to the Spurs forum:
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=63031
Turkish
30-08-2010, 08:55 AM
Managers I can currently think of that are out of the game:
O'Neill
Sven
Zola
Blackwell
Curbishley
Coppell
Jewel
Ince
Megson
Dowie
Shearer?
Johnson
Brown
Now he would be a great choice, took Wigan from L1 to the PL and promoted to the PL with Bradford. Not great at Derby but that wasn't his team.
JackFrost
30-08-2010, 08:57 AM
O' Neill - Unlikely but would be a massive coup and may justify Pardew's sacking
Zola - Would be totally underwhelmed by his appointment
Coppell - Would be a good appointment but I feel he wouldn't get on with Cortese
I just really we don't appoint someone like Dowie or Ince or Shearer
stu0x
30-08-2010, 08:58 AM
There is absolutely no chance of getting Martin O'Neill. Quite apart from the gulf in levels and all the other considerations, it is well known that the guy is an absolute control freak. He demands to be personally in control of everything at the club, there were a log of people at Villa Park who breathed a sigh of relief when he went as he is a tyrant. There is no way Cortese would be prepared to give a manager that sort of control. He'll, he walked out on Villa because Randy Lerner wanted him to trim the wage bill and not spunk all the cash.
I think you have to look back at when Pardew was appointed, it was a massive coup to get him whatever people may think now. The situation when he was brought in was arguably a more attractive one than the current one to any prospective manager (not least because of the sword of Damocles that is obviously now hanging over the post - who is going to take the job knowing that they could get the bullet in such spectacular fashion?)
So I think we can forget about getting a high profile manager, unless it is one with something massive to prove - Zola being a perfect example, not quite sure why he would have *any* credence as a manager, his record is barely better than Shearer's.
There was a lot of talk within the management structure at Exeter last season that we were looking at Tisdale, maybe there was something in that, it's certainly a more realistic appointment.
Problem is, given the circumstances that now surround the club, there is realistically no chance of getting someone who has a better than average chance of doing better than Pardew. The whole thing seems to make no sense at all.
Leslie Charteris
30-08-2010, 08:59 AM
Gerard Houlier would like to get back into English football, it seems, perhaps Cortese speaks French as well as Italian and English.
Badger
30-08-2010, 08:59 AM
O'Neill
Keegan
O'Driscoll is indeed an interesting suggestion.
I would not be surprised if Shearer's name is mentioned.
After that the rising stars are:
Howe
Tisdale.
oR Lee Clark, lets bugger up Huddersfield's chances whilst we are at it.
Please not:
Turdishley
Zola
Svenis
or Southgate.
golfdelsur
30-08-2010, 08:59 AM
Everyone mentions managers out of the game. Is it not possible that Cortese can go and poach a manager from another club?
Minsk
30-08-2010, 09:00 AM
Would be a truly outstanding choice - if true.
O'Neill's mentor the late, great, Brian Clough dropped down the leagues to build a under performing club (Nottingham Forest) into a real force in the game. It might represent an entirely different (and reinvigorating) type of challenge to a manager who has already proved himself in the EPL. Probably too good to be true of course, but there's no harm in dreaming I suppose.
I think the only (0.01% probability) reason that O'Neill could come here would be the thought of a totally different challenge. There is no doubt that he is an excellent and could walk into most jobs (he is, IMO, far better than Benitez and look where he ended up......) I sincerely doubt he will come here, but will hold onto this dream until we are told the underwhelming truth of who our new manager will be.
As others have said, O'Neill apart, there is no-one out there at the moment who I would have picked over Pardew. Certainly now Zola, Coppell, Wise, or any others touted on this thread so far.
del boy
30-08-2010, 09:00 AM
Please put any gossip or rumours about possible new Managers on this thread please.
Can't we just start 4 or 5 pointless other threads on the same subject as usual?
Saint Lindford
30-08-2010, 09:01 AM
Whoever it will be my feeling is that it will be a well known and experienced manager. Why sack AP and bring in the likes of Howe or Tisdale?
Brown was on MOTD2 last night touting himself, no thanks. Curbishley, didn't seem to be able to hack it at Bristol City so what chance ata SMS, again no thanks. Zola or Vialli with the Italian links would be good IMHO. Dream ticket would be Martin O'Neill but as others have said would he want to drop 2 divisions? Having said that he would have the chance to build something fantastic and that might appeal to him.
Thanks to AP for all he has done for us though in the 13 months he was at SMS. Came in under tremendous pressure and did a good job in getting us to Wembley and 7th in the League. Thanks Alan and good luck in the future.
qwertySFC
30-08-2010, 09:02 AM
How safe is WGS ...
MarkSFC
30-08-2010, 09:04 AM
"The club has decided that, to achieve its well known targets, it is essential to make changes to the management," said a Southampton statement.
"We recognise that frequent changes to the football management are unlikely to assist in the winning of trophies and promotions.
"However, we are taking these steps to achieve our aims, which we share with all supporters, to get promoted this season, and secure long term stability and progress for our football operations.
These quotes MUST mean that a "proven" manager is lined up...MON clearly heads that list. If Cortese goes for a manager who has never won anything or got promotion then these statements cover the real reason.
If not MON which I actually think could be a goer....could explain the timing of this.....then there arent IMO any other really good appointments AND ones that will get the fans onside.
Whatever your critisism of Pardew team selection and tactics he has done a really good job here. The vast majority of the paying customerbase liked him I think so Cortese needs to pull a big rabbit out of a very small hat here!!!!
Shame Mourinho has just gone to Real!!!!
Julian H. Cope
30-08-2010, 09:05 AM
I saw Kevin Keegan last night sat in his Range Rover in a deserted car park.........
Deppo
30-08-2010, 09:06 AM
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
Block 5
30-08-2010, 09:10 AM
I saw Kevin Keegan last night sat in his Range Rover in a deserted car park.........
Was Stan Collymore in the same deserted car park?
Amesbury Saint
30-08-2010, 09:11 AM
A couple of points
1. Whoever is the new manager will need to have the wow factor. AP was good and pretty high profile in the game. The new person will need to be better.
2. Attendances. The pricing strucuture, with high match day prices and no more ST sales, is geared to a high performing team and manager. Club plans to fill the 10,000 empty seats with full paying fans.
So whoever is appointed will have an immediate wow factor, sign new players and deliver promotion.
MarkSFC
30-08-2010, 09:11 AM
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html
no ononeil at all and these lists rarely get it right!!!
BallBoy
30-08-2010, 09:11 AM
Probably not original but Mourinho failed to win his first league game at Real Madrid. That means, in this crazy football world, he must be available now! It's him or that Italian chap......What's his name?........Oh yes......Capello.
mickn
30-08-2010, 09:12 AM
My mate works in the Etap Hotel and he says that Tommy Widdrington was in there having a bowl of Coco Pops this morning.
Thats crap cos I know for a fact he hates coco pops
MarkSFC
30-08-2010, 09:13 AM
A couple of points
1. Whoever is the new manager will need to have the wow factor. AP was good and pretty high profile in the game. The new person will need to be better.
2. Attendances. The pricing strucuture, with high match day prices and no more ST sales, is geared to a high performing team and manager. Club plans to fill the 10,000 empty seats with full paying fans.
So whoever is appointed will have an immediate wow factor, sign new players and deliver promotion.
Completely agree!!! This is arguablt THE biggest call of Corteses time at the club!!!
mickn
30-08-2010, 09:13 AM
A couple of points
1. Whoever is the new manager will need to have the wow factor. AP was good and pretty high profile in the game. The new person will need to be better.
2. Attendances. The pricing strucuture, with high match day prices and no more ST sales, is geared to a high performing team and manager. Club plans to fill the 10,000 empty seats with full paying fans.
So whoever is appointed will have an immediate wow factor, sign new players and deliver promotion.
Well it's going to be too late for that bit
Um Bongo
30-08-2010, 09:13 AM
Maradonna
Julian H. Cope
30-08-2010, 09:14 AM
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
Lump on Megson @20-1.
John Boy Saint
30-08-2010, 09:14 AM
http://www.bettingpro.com/category/Football/Next-Southampton-FC-manager-betting-2010083000227/
What a load of cobblers Cortese ain't going to unload Pardew unless he has someone of substance so we are going to get a high profile manager not some jobber from our league or lower. Let alone Dowie and the like.
Julian H. Cope
30-08-2010, 09:15 AM
Was Stan Collymore in the same deserted car park?
No, he was seen hanging around a refuge for vulnerable women.
Cabrone
30-08-2010, 09:16 AM
The only name mentioned that would genuinely excite me from all those suggested is O'Neill.
Keegan would be fun too but I'd struggle to justify why he's any better than AP.
Just shows what a difficult position NC has now put himself into.
If he doesn't have a top name lined up the vast majority of the fan base are going to be disappointed as AP was already good enough.
NC - you have put yourself into a corner, I just hope you can pull the rabbit out of this particular hat.
I've heard that Paul Hart is lined up
Julian H. Cope
30-08-2010, 09:21 AM
I've heard that Paul Hart is lined up
Yes I'm sure you would have heard that.
Dr Who?
30-08-2010, 09:21 AM
Would love it to be Eddie Howe just for the enjoyment of ****ing the cherries off.
FYI Ruud Gullit just pulled up next to me and i saw his Sat Nav was set to St Marys.
What is Branfoot up to these days? I like to see what he could do with money!!! lol
Dr Who?
30-08-2010, 09:22 AM
What is Hoddle up to?
Miltonaggro
30-08-2010, 09:26 AM
A problem has been created here in that AP was doing OK and there was an expectation of promotion under him regardless of the indifferent start to the season. Therefore, if NC appoints a manager who seriously underwhelms or polarises the fanbase there will be a reaction in terms of loss of faith and revenue. This makes me think that the new man has been in the wings for a few weeks, negotiating terms and asking questions, and that the new man is a name to unify the fans and inspire the staff. Martin O Neill or Kevin Keegan are the only two names that immediately spring to mind who would seem to fit that bill, the likes of Zola or Curbishley could lead to indifference both on and off the park!
This decision will either be Cortese's triumph or downfall...
Amesbury Saint
30-08-2010, 09:27 AM
last post of the day
some of the names suggested leave me looking for the rusty razor.
My suggestion
1. High profile DOF - Keegan, Coppell. If we got O Neill it would like signing Keegan all those years ago.
with young manager
2. Shearer or Eddie Howe
for_heaven's_Saint
30-08-2010, 09:30 AM
O'Driscoll from Donny would be a good appointment IMO. Unlikely though. I just hope whoever it is is in quickly.
stdavid
30-08-2010, 09:31 AM
I've heard Big Ron Atkinson is being lined up
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 09:31 AM
By the wording of the OS article the new manager would be the one Cortese wants to keep hold of and have in charge for the Premier League. This would therefore surely have to be someone with a proven managerial background and also someone that has bought into Cortese's future image for the club.
saints-til-i-die
30-08-2010, 09:35 AM
Shame it won't be Nigel Pearson...think we let that one slip by us...
paulwantsapint
30-08-2010, 09:35 AM
MIGHT NOT WANT THEM
Unlikely but Unmentioned
David Platt (yet again)
Hoddle ( someone had to say it)
Stuart Pearce
Jim Magilton
prem oap player/manager
Ray Wilkins
swannymere
30-08-2010, 09:37 AM
I've heard a tinkle it's going to be Redknapp.
alpine_saint
30-08-2010, 09:38 AM
This decision will either be Cortese's triumph or downfall...
Yes, easily his biggest decision so far.
adriansfc
30-08-2010, 09:38 AM
Don't see what's wrong with Zola. Did a good job to start with then struggled but kept them up in very tough circumstances. Hardly the worst cv and clearly an intelligent guy who'd be backed with money.
I didn't mind pardew but people are being silly saying changing can't bring success. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't but there's no point sticking with pardew if the owner isn't fully behind him. We have high expectations and we won't know if pardew could have met them. To be fair, IMO this is a poor league and we should have made the playoffs last season but there we go. It doesn't take money to get up it takes good management, but we had the advantage of money too. I was annoyed enough for pardew to go after the first two games because it was appalling to start badly yet again with the talent available, but Saturday showed how good the squad really is and it's a shame he won't get the chance to prove himself. I happen to think we will see the team largely unchanged but will get promoted anyway and people will quickly forget.
All that said I pray it isn't curbishley or brown, can't stand and don't rate either at all.
John Boy Saint
30-08-2010, 09:40 AM
MIGHT NOT WANT THEM
Unlikely but Unmentioned
David Platt (yet again)
Hoddle ( someone had to say it)
Stuart Pearce
Jim Magilton
prem oap player/manager
Ray Wilkins
someone already said hoddle mate!
Rebel
30-08-2010, 09:40 AM
It won't be a manager it will be a first team coach under the new structure which will rules out any of the British big boys - which means it will someone like Tisdale or Howe, Zola or some other continental coach
Master Bates
30-08-2010, 09:42 AM
I know of a proven manager called Jan, Jan Poortvliet, licence to be good.....................
Legod Third Coming
30-08-2010, 09:42 AM
By the wording of the OS article the new manager would be the one Cortese wants to keep hold of and have in charge for the Premier League. This would therefore surely have to be someone with a proven managerial background and also someone that has bought into Cortese's future image for the club.
Kevin Keegan is about the only manager in my living memory who has done what's required.
I have assumed Cortese has reanimated either Busby or Shankly to justify this one.
Nice to have all my fears about his uncontrolled egomania confirmed in one fell swoop... Oh no, not nice, what's the word... Worrying.
adriansfc
30-08-2010, 09:43 AM
No-one thought of shearer yet? Thought he'd have taken a job by now.
Albert Tatlock
30-08-2010, 09:43 AM
Paul Ince
zardoz
30-08-2010, 09:44 AM
If it's Sven I'm not going to another game until he's gone. FACT
Steve mcClaren would be a good choice.
revolution saint
30-08-2010, 09:48 AM
Well whoever it is will need to buy into the "Southampton Style" vision and bring on the kids. Cortese has banged on enough about that. MON doesn't really fit that template and I can't see him working with Cortese either - he isn't going to take kindly to a hands on chief exec.
I think it'll be Zola. That would also explain why Dean Wilkins is still here - I'd imagine Zola is still mates with Ray.
Quickfire Double
30-08-2010, 09:49 AM
Steve mcClaren would be a good choice.
A good second choice, after trying and failing to get O'Neil..!!
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 09:49 AM
If it's Sven I'm not going to another game until he's gone. FACT
We really have some retarded fans.
Weston Saint
30-08-2010, 09:52 AM
Whoever it is he has to have the following:
Previous proven Managerial experience and tactically aware.
Ambitious and hungry for success.
100% buy in to the Liehberr/Cortese dream
Experience at lower league football with the qualities to grow with the job
Able to work with different personalities and get the best out of individuals and the team collectively
Managers who have been out of the job for a while lack hunger and ambition
High profile Managers are not the answer in the lower leagues
Past sacking or quitings need not apply!
All in my opinion of course.
zardoz
30-08-2010, 09:53 AM
We really have some retarded fans.
It's called Principle moosh !
Berudenot2
30-08-2010, 09:54 AM
It will be Siniša Mihajlović with Waigo joining him on a permanent deal.
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 09:55 AM
It's called Principle moosh !
On what principle? Did Sven spit on you and burn your house down moosh?
Burger
30-08-2010, 09:58 AM
only initials GH work and fit the complete strategy and not just 1st team manager.
Glen Hoddle, but better bet Gerald Houllier. Both would have bigger view than just 1st team which appears to be the issue with AP
instinct
30-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Steve mcClaren would be a good choice.
He just lost a game 3-4 this weekend after leading 3-0 at half time.
Martin O'Neill would never come to a L1 or Championship club - recently he was talked about as taking over from Sir Alex
I really don't want a foreign coach to be appointed - we need someone with experience of L1 and contacts in the game to bring in loans that could do a job in this division
The Kraken
30-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Well whoever it is will need to buy into the "Southampton Style" vision and bring on the kids. Cortese has banged on enough about that. MON doesn't really fit that template and I can't see him working with Cortese either - he isn't going to take kindly to a hands on chief exec.
I think it'll be Zola. That would also explain why Dean Wilkins is still here - I'd imagine Zola is still mates with Ray.
This is exactly how I see it. The club statement alluded to that fact that the first team and development centre need to be more integrated so I can only see a young manager coming in who'll buy into that. I can see the manager only having a small role in future transfers etc so I can't see a more established manager wanting a part of that. I don't think Zola would be good for us, but I really think that's who we'll get.
zardoz
30-08-2010, 10:02 AM
On what principle? Did Sven spit on you and burn your house down moosh?
No. But if you don't already know on what principle, I doubt you will ever understand it.
action man
30-08-2010, 10:02 AM
alan shearer,you heard it here first
adriansfc
30-08-2010, 10:03 AM
Does anyone else find new manager betting strange? With sport generally anything can happen, but with this there are people who know the answers. That's a huge opportunity to make money if you know a manager or board member somehow. Like when redknapp was massive odds to return to Pompey. So if anyone is really ITK let me know as I want some money.
Nexstar
30-08-2010, 10:05 AM
No. But if you don't already know on what principle, I doubt you will ever understand it.
Right, you do realise he won 60% of his games as England manager? Anyway, you'll have to wait until tomorrow to reply, by which time Sven may be at the helm!
stubb saint
30-08-2010, 10:06 AM
I think we should go for fergie. lol
Turkish
30-08-2010, 10:06 AM
I just heard Tony Cascarino is being stongly linked. He wants to get into management and is a friend of Corteses. Plus he had got an Italian sounding name.
del boy
30-08-2010, 10:12 AM
Does anyone fancy Totti?
locks heath saint 2
30-08-2010, 10:14 AM
Seconded
I believe would send a message that we will be spending big in the future
Getting out of this division will be a b*** breaking slog.
makes the sacking even more baffling to me
Vershinin
30-08-2010, 10:16 AM
Zola can **** off, nice bloke but so wrong for us.
Cricketphilly
30-08-2010, 10:17 AM
My Brentford mole says it's Andy Scott.
Gemmel
30-08-2010, 10:18 AM
Ruud Gullit
Saints67
30-08-2010, 10:20 AM
Zola can **** off, nice bloke but so wrong for us. Zola didn't work for the Prem but League 1 may well be the right level for him to 'start' club management at. I'm fairly sure he had a reasonable amount of success running the Italian U21 team. However I will wait and see although something tells me (my gut) we'll have a manager in place by Friday.
Saint Billy
30-08-2010, 10:21 AM
I wonder if the next manager had anything to do with the Gully signing?
There must have been some Italian inside knowledge on Gully? which gives the Italian connection more legs.
Saint Charlie
30-08-2010, 10:22 AM
Billy Davies?
Moaning tosspot. No way.
Turkish
30-08-2010, 10:22 AM
I want one of these. Tony Cascarino, Bruce Rioch, Gerry Francis, Ron Atkinson, Don Howe or Graham Taylor. Everyone else can jog on.
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 10:23 AM
I wonder if the next manager had anything to do with the Gully signing?
There must have been some Italian inside knowledge on Gully? which gives the Italian connection more legs.
He was a cortese signing, Gully has the same agent as Papa apparently, and Cortese is ''friends'' with them.
ericofarabia
30-08-2010, 10:23 AM
Steve mcClaren would be a good choice.
Until it rains.
ericofarabia
30-08-2010, 10:25 AM
I think (hope) you forgot to put a smiley winky thingy at the end ..... none of them would appear in my top 20 choices !!!
To be honest, I think Zola could be very good. Can't believe we'd turn our noses up at him.
Andy_Porter
30-08-2010, 10:27 AM
To be honest, I think Zola could be very good. Can't believe we'd turn our noses up at him.
Why? he was terrible for West Ham even with one of the best assistant managers in the country.
Saint Billy
30-08-2010, 10:28 AM
He was a cortese signing, Gully has the same agent as Papa apparently, and Cortese is ''friends'' with them.
Oh ok, cheers for that, surely though you don't just take the word of an agent that the player they represent is any good?
Turkish
30-08-2010, 10:30 AM
I think (hope) you forgot to put a smiley winky thingy at the end ..... none of them would appear in my top 20 choices !!!
Don Howe would be my prefered choice. Been there done that, also coached at International level. Great tactician too, for L1 anyway, dont mess about with it, get it long. However i think Tony Cascarino has all the ability to make a great manager. We should get him, maybe with Don Howe as his mentor.
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 10:31 AM
Oh ok, cheers for that, surely though you don't just take the word of an agent that the player they represent is any good?
It happened alot at QPR (i'm sure our resident QPR fan will pick me up on this if wrong) - they had a few Italian imports that the manager didn't scout. It's the European scouts that give the heads up on these sort of things, and luckily Cortese has a few links at Italian clubs and with Italian agents.
I look at us now and see '''QPR'' - i remember thinking what nutters they were when they kept changing managers and expecting instant success. Thankfully they've toned down a bit now.
Noodles34
30-08-2010, 10:32 AM
Mr Tumble and MLT in a dream partnership
macca155
30-08-2010, 10:34 AM
O'Neil would be great but surely that's kite flying we remain a mid table league 1 side at the moment hardly that attractive however ambitious we may be. I don't think it will be a new boy Cortese needs someone proven to apease the fans so maybe he is thinking big and looking to bring in a big name currently off the radar.... maybe
Hoddle
Bernd Schuster
Jürgen Klinsmann
Marco Van Basten
Michael Laudrup
Any of those would do thank you very much
Cloud cuckoo land I think... probably end up being Buckle of Torquay
del boy
30-08-2010, 10:41 AM
... probably end up being Buckle of Torquay
Thats not a bad shout....although anything less than his record for the first 4 games of this season would probably be met with a sacking
JackFrost
30-08-2010, 10:42 AM
My money is on Takeshi Okada, the Japanese coach from the world cup. You heard it here first...
He retired from football management after the world cup
adriansfc
30-08-2010, 10:43 AM
Why? he was terrible for West Ham even with one of the best assistant managers in the country.
Terrible taking an average team to
Mid table then keeping up a poor team with no money and endless boardroom upheaval?
They didn't much like him because of his Chelsea connections, but writing off his career for his time at west ham would be insane.
Whitey Grandad
30-08-2010, 10:44 AM
This is all so depressing. Anyone who expects a new manager to have instant results is very likely to be disappointed. I agree with Weston that we shall need a different manager to get us out if this league than the one who takes us to the Premiership. The only name that I have read that I think might fit that bill is Poyet. I started this season full of optimism but at the moment I have a nasty sinking feeling.
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 10:46 AM
I'd take Zola and Clarke! Wilkins can then become First Team Coach. You can't do much better than that for the league we're in tbh.
Fergie
30-08-2010, 10:46 AM
I think we should go for fergie. lol
Yeah I'll do it :)
Cabrone
30-08-2010, 10:47 AM
If the sightings of O'Neill at St Marys watching Saints v Orient are correct then I'd imagine it wasn't a random occurence.
Charlie Wayman
30-08-2010, 10:48 AM
It'll be Sven Goran Erikson, prviouly of Notts County ame - if he is willing to do th eFourth Division, he'll jump at the Third. Then none of your sisters will be safe!
Foxstone
30-08-2010, 10:49 AM
Don't see what's wrong with Zola. Did a good job to start with then struggled but kept them up in very tough circumstances. Hardly the worst cv and clearly an intelligent guy who'd be backed with money.
I didn't mind pardew but people are being silly saying changing can't bring success. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't but there's no point sticking with pardew if the owner isn't fully behind him. We have high expectations and we won't know if pardew could have met them. To be fair, IMO this is a poor league and we should have made the playoffs last season but there we go. It doesn't take money to get up it takes good management, but we had the advantage of money too. I was annoyed enough for pardew to go after the first two games because it was appalling to start badly yet again with the talent available, but Saturday showed how good the squad really is and it's a shame he won't get the chance to prove himself. I happen to think we will see the team largely unchanged but will get promoted anyway and people will quickly forget.
All that said I pray it isn't curbishley or brown, can't stand and don't rate either at all.
Agree with all of that !
Prepare for a big name I think, and in terms of big names Zola is not half bad!
craigthesaint
30-08-2010, 10:49 AM
My post on the HCDAJFU thread on the 26th about Zola staying at the same hotel as Guly may not of been 2+2=5 but more 2+2=4............... We shall see i suppose but the sacking was certainly out the blue as my contact at Staplewood only found out at 8.30 this morning too but had suggested to me on more than one occasion over the past 2 weeks that in their opinion Zola would be coming in if Pardew didn't get the right results but with Guly saying about Zola being at the same hotel as him it could possibly be a done deal.
Saints Warrior
30-08-2010, 10:49 AM
Pakistan cricket team match fixer! we have the money to fix the results!! The Bournemouth game looked like ball tampering to me..
Why? he was terrible for West Ham even with one of the best assistant managers in the country.
Er..he wasn't terrible, and they are in the Premier. Bit different?
SuperMikey
30-08-2010, 10:57 AM
I have a horrible feeling it will be Zola. Although he wouldn't be a bad choice, I would hold out for somebody with a bit more experience. Martin O'Neill would be perfect, if not a bit of a long shot.
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 10:57 AM
My post on the HCDAJFU thread on the 26th about Zola staying at the same hotel as Guly may not of been 2+2=5 but more 2+2=4............... We shall see i suppose but the sacking was certainly out the blue as my contact at Staplewood only found out at 8.30 this morning too but had suggested to me on more than one occasion over the past 2 weeks that in their opinion Zola would be coming in if Pardew didn't get the right results but with Guly saying about Zola being at the same hotel as him it could possibly be a done deal.
I'll admit, I was the first to call it bull**** but I take it back. I'll more than welcome Zola! Sorry :)
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 10:59 AM
Phil Brown on MOTD 2 last night said that his grass was looking good now following his gardening leave by Hull and that he was born to work. He said that he wanted to be back asap. What do people think of him? I wouldn't want him here f'sure.
bridge too far
30-08-2010, 11:01 AM
Phil Brown on MOTD 2 last night said that his grass was looking good now following his gardening leave by Hull and that he was born to work. He said that he wanted to be back asap. What do people think of him? I wouldn't want him here f'sure.
His orange face would clash badly with all the red around.
SuperMikey
30-08-2010, 11:01 AM
Phil Brown - no thanks. Got lucky getting Hull into the Prem, aside from that he's a sh!t manager imo.
WealdSaint
30-08-2010, 11:03 AM
1. I think it will HAVE to be a big name
2. I think that NC will want to be SURE they can work together.
I think 2. rules out MON..........Zola would fit the bill
dan17
30-08-2010, 11:09 AM
Updated Odds
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html
ottery st mary
30-08-2010, 11:11 AM
Paul Tisdale would fit the coaching unit in place.....
Was on the short list last time round ...
Others in the same mould that come to mind..
as mentioned
Howe and O'Driscoll...
All points to German, Swiss or Italian though...
WIFM
Burger
30-08-2010, 11:11 AM
This is all so depressing. Anyone who expects a new manager to have instant results is very likely to be disappointed. I agree with Weston that we shall need a different manager to get us out if this league than the one who takes us to the Premiership. The only name that I have read that I think might fit that bill is Poyet. I started this season full of optimism but at the moment I have a nasty sinking feeling.
why is it that if Saints have a new manager he will take time to get results, yet if it is our opponents they will beat us as they have the "new manager" effect?
Saint Charlie
30-08-2010, 11:12 AM
Anyone but Phil Brown!
SuperMikey
30-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Updated Odds
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html
Howe
Zola
O'Neill
Tisdale
Shearer
Adkins
Jewell
Mowbray
Wouldn't mind any of those tbh. If it's Ince I will literally kill myself.
MarkSFC
30-08-2010, 11:16 AM
The more I think about it the more likely it seems to me that Zola will be the chosen one. Italian...been there, seen it, done it PLAYER who will gain instant respect from the players, but of course will have to earn respect as am nager from them and perhaps more importantly us fans.
Steve Clarke no doubt would be his assistant...very experienced coach/assistant obviously mainly at Chelsea and worked with one of the best in Mourinho!
The fact that Dean Wilkins has stayed suggests to me that the new man wants him and therefore the new man is already chosen. Why else keep part of Pardews team which Cortese has decided does not fit in with his vision for the future? Surely in Hunter, Dodd and Reed there are enough people in the club to organise and run trianing for a few days (at most). After all, Dodd has already done it.
I think a BIG name is needed to boost morale in the fanbase and to send a message of intent to the football world. Zola is a big name but nt in management terms...thats what concerns me although I do think he did a very admirable job at West Ham n extremely difficult times and handled himself with real aplomb both during his time there and immediately after.
Zola doesn't have experience of this level of football.
for_heaven's_Saint
30-08-2010, 11:19 AM
If it is Zola, let's hope Clarke does come too.
Saint_Si
30-08-2010, 11:21 AM
I would weep with joy if Martin O'Neill came here. Unlikely, but one is allowed dream! Its possible he'd want to take on a new challenge though. His enthusiasm for the game is second to none. I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Strach yet! Things are clearly not working for him at Middlesboro and its possible he could be lined up for a return to Saints!
They're the only 2 names that would excite me following this mess. Feel so gutted for Pardew at the moment. Im also worried about the negative impact this could have on the squad, given that most of the squad are his signings. Bloody hell. Never a dull moment supporting this club!
Zola doesn't have experience of this level of football.
niether did Keegan when he took Fulham through the divisions. I don't think it's a pre-requisite.
saint_bert
30-08-2010, 11:23 AM
look at these idiots
http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=28815&start=21&posts=37
Tac-tics
30-08-2010, 11:23 AM
I am ****ing cringing at some of the names linked: Megson, Brown, Blackwell, Ince, Dowie, Sven and I'm not exactly excited at the mention of Zola.
Martin O'Neil, would be a massive coup but just really can not see that happening, would be amazed.
Thats the only name that jumps out at me, would be ok with any of these but not all likely:
Paul Lambert
Lee Clark
Eddie Howe
Gus Poyet
Kevin Keegan
Alan Shearer - tad concerned about defensive organisation.
Michael Laudrup
Alan Curbishley
Steve Clarke
Still a bit shocked at the timing of this, interesting to see what Pardew has to say.
Whitey Grandad
30-08-2010, 11:25 AM
why is it that if Saints have a new manager he will take time to get results, yet if it is our opponents they will beat us as they have the "new manager" effect?
This effect is normally short-lived, typically one game, although to be honest I can't remember this effect ever working with Saints when we had a new manager, and we've had a lot of them.
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Still a bit shocked at the timing of this, interesting to see what Pardew has to say.
He won't say anything, he will have to sign a non-disclosure agreement in order to get his pay off.
sperm_john
30-08-2010, 11:26 AM
i'm gonna throw my money at it being some random foriegner no ones heard of, probably italian ...
mulletsaint
30-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Far too risky getting an unproven manager if we want to get out of this division this season. I hope to god it's not Zola. Not sure who I'd plump for though, although at least Howe has had a season and a bit in charge and has proved he can get a club promotion, and Tisdale is an obvious choice at our current level. Wouldn't be surprised if Hoddle makes a reappearance.
RedAndWhite91
30-08-2010, 11:26 AM
I am ****ing cringing at some of the names linked: Megson, Brown, Blackwell, Ince, Dowie, Sven and I'm not exactly excited at the mention of Zola.
Would definitely still have Pardew over any of them.
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 11:27 AM
I would weep with joy if Martin O'Neill came here. Unlikely, but one is allowed dream! Its possible he'd want to take on a new challenge though. His enthusiasm for the game is second to none. I'm also surprised no one has mentioned Strach yet! Things are clearly not working for him at Middlesboro and its possible he could be lined up for a return to Saints!
They're the only 2 names that would excite me following this mess. Feel so gutted for Pardew at the moment. Im also worried about the negative impact this could have on the squad, given that most of the squad are his signings. Bloody hell. Never a dull moment supporting this club!
Dont want Strachan back, would most probably destroy this squad and sign the leftovers from Scotland that he couldn't get a Boro! He's one of those managers at the moment who should be doing alot better than he is with the quality of players at his disposal. He's had roughly the same amount of time as Pardew and hasn't done much different. Last season, he took a side in the top 4 to well outside the playoffs, while Pardew took a team hugely lacking confidence, on -10 points and built a team of promotion contenders.
This year, Strachan splashed the cash in the window, spent more than Pardew and they are 16th after playing one more game than us and on the same amount of points.
I don't think that Strachan would be the one for us now, possibly back when the Swiss took over, but not now IMO.
Burger
30-08-2010, 11:27 AM
i'm gonna throw my money at it being some random foriegner no ones heard of, probably italian ...
not sure how you place that bet....
Tac-tics
30-08-2010, 11:29 AM
look at these idiots
http://www.bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=28815&start=21&posts=37
80% of the posts are fine, what point you making?
martel
30-08-2010, 11:31 AM
A change of manager at this stage of the season is normally a step back.
Over the last season-and-a-bit, AP has assembled a squad of players that fit his bill...whether it gets 100% support of Saints Forum or not, that's the way he will have built the squad.
A new manager comes in and finds that he wants to play a slightly different way (inevitably) and, surprise surprise, hasn't got exactly the righjt tool box set-up for the job he wants to do.
Fitting of round pegs into square holes normally ensues, followed by disgruntlement of the old manager's chosen men, followed by ..... (insert your own conclusion here)
Sorry to contradict you, but it worked for Norwich last season, did it not.
Robsk II
30-08-2010, 11:35 AM
Jeff Kenna to be manager?
itchen_dan
30-08-2010, 11:36 AM
Sorry to contradict you, but it worked for Norwich last season, did it not.
Yeah but he had more than 1 day in the transfer market. That's even if a manager comes in as early as today! If he comes in afterwards, then he has to work with what Pardew has created and use the loan market to get some young players in.
rperry
30-08-2010, 11:37 AM
Slaven Bilić
corky morris
30-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Martin O'Neil is the best available, but he wont come here. If it is some dodgy foreigner then we should be very worried. And I simply dont rate Zola.
for_heaven's_Saint
30-08-2010, 11:40 AM
Southgate would be decent IMO.
docker-p
30-08-2010, 11:41 AM
IT will be Micky Adams. You heard it here first.
madruss
30-08-2010, 11:42 AM
Sorry to contradict you, but it worked for Norwich last season, did it not.
I wish people would stop using Norwich as an example. They had a novice manager in charge, who'd just been relegated (ok not his fault, but still) and had the team in complete disarray. They got completely thrashed 7-1 at home, they had sunk as low as they possibly could.
In our situation, last season our manager had us in title-winning form and (barring the poor start and the -10) we would have gone up. The point is, whereas Norwich could only improve by changing their manager, it's entirely possible that we could get worse by changing ours
Flyer
30-08-2010, 11:43 AM
It happened alot at QPR (i'm sure our resident QPR fan will pick me up on this if wrong) - they had a few Italian imports that the manager didn't scout. It's the European scouts that give the heads up on these sort of things, and luckily Cortese has a few links at Italian clubs and with Italian agents.
I look at us now and see '''QPR'' - i remember thinking what nutters they were when they kept changing managers and expecting instant success. Thankfully they've toned down a bit now.
The manager wasnt in charge of signing players, Flav the control freak was in charge and the similarities to NC are clear to see. He got such a bad reputation that Paul Hart was the only manager who would accept the job. Its no coincidence that Flav leaving and Warnock arriving has seen us go to the top of the table.
I dont think Saints will go anywhere until NC is gone, a puppet manager wont be any good and a good manager will have lots or argument with him over control of the club and signings.
Saints now have the reputation QPR had a year ago, a total nutter in charge.
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 11:43 AM
IT will be Micky Adams. You heard it here first.
That would be ridiculous.
Matthew Le God
30-08-2010, 11:43 AM
Martin O'Neil 8/1 with Skybet :D
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 11:44 AM
The manager wasnt in charge of signing players, Flav the control freak was in charge and the similarities to NC are clear to see. He got such a bad reputation that Paul Hart was the only manager who would accept the job. Its no coincidence that Flav leaving and Warnock arriving has seen us go to the top of the table.
I dont think Saints will go anywhere until NC is gone, a puppet manager wont be any good and a good manager will have lots or argument with him over control of the club and signings.
Saints now have the reputation QPR had a year ago, a total nutter in charge.
Something with Italians then!
who is your chairman now?
SO16_Saint
30-08-2010, 11:45 AM
Martin O'Neil 8/1 with Skybet :D
best £1 i'll ever spend....!
If Martin O'Neill becomes the new Saints manager I will hack off my scrotum with the lid of a pilchard tin.
Crab Lungs
30-08-2010, 11:47 AM
Howe
Zola
O'Neill
Tisdale
Shearer
Adkins
Jewell
Mowbray
Wouldn't mind any of those tbh. If it's Ince I will literally kill myself.
I'll kill myself too, tbh. Can't stand him - a d1ck, and an absolutely terrible manager
Saint_lambden
30-08-2010, 11:52 AM
Make that 3 people who will kill themselves if it goes to Ince.
I wanted Curbishley before Pardew but Im not sure if he would be any better than him.
O'Neill would be a dream.
saint_bert
30-08-2010, 11:53 AM
80% of the posts are fine, what point you making?
That they are saying that if EH left it would effect his "god" status?
Why would it. They are the team with the inferiority complex about us.
Also, the way I read it they are quite happy that we have sacked AP, as it will, they hope have a detrimental effect on promotion.
That is my point
Flyer
30-08-2010, 11:53 AM
Something with Italians then!
who is your chairman now?
The guy in charge is Ishan Saksena and the money is coming from the Mittals so now its the Indians running the show.
Communication with the fans has also improved, prices came down, basically everything got better because we didnt have a megalomaniac in charge that made decisions by himself, fired people and ****ed off just about everyone else. There was a real bad feeling around the club with players, employees and fans really unhappy.
Ill tell you how pathetic it was, we had a black cat as a mascot, Italians dont like black cats so it was changed to a tiger who always got booed. The game after Flav left the mascot pulled out a mini black cat from his sleeve and got a big cheer, hed have been sacked for doing that if Flav was there.
I think the atmosphere is probably pretty similar at SMS.
jwakley75
30-08-2010, 11:55 AM
My logic says it would have to be someone who WASN'T available before the season kicked off, as there's no sense to sacking AP after three games unless someone is now available who wasn't at the start of the season...
Surely if it was already on NC's agenda to get rid of Pardew, he would at least want his new man to have pre-season, sign his own players etc?
Hope & pray it's Martin O'Neill, but can't believe NC will manage to pull that off. Got a funny feeling they're already signed up and will be unveiled on Tuesday, can't believe NC would fire Pard's (at this stage) without his replacement already on board.
This needs to be an exciting big name! If it's someone like Curb's I will be very very dissapointed...
P.S. O'Neill is now third favourite on Skybet at 6/1
SparkySaint
30-08-2010, 11:55 AM
Agreed. Please let it not be Ince
beavis17
30-08-2010, 11:56 AM
If it isnt O'Neill then this is a stupid sacking.
Zola would be useless in this league but the italian connection seems to suggest this is the most likely
As for the other names being linked.....no thanks
SparkySaint
30-08-2010, 11:57 AM
Gazza you heard it here first
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 11:57 AM
The guy in charge is Ishan Saksena and the money is coming from the Mittals so now its the Indians running the show.
Communication with the fans has also improved, prices came down, basically everything got better because we didnt have a megalomaniac in charge that made decisions by himself, fired people and ****ed off just about everyone else. There was a real bad feeling around the club with players, employees and fans really unhappy.
Ill tell you how pathetic it was, we had a black cat as a mascot, Italians dont like black cats so it was changed to a tiger who always got booed. The game after Flav left the mascot pulled out a mini black cat from his sleeve and got a big cheer, hed have been sacked for doing that if Flav was there.
I think the atmosphere is probably pretty similar at SMS.
That sounds like exactly what's happening here.
what a nightmare
saint_bert
30-08-2010, 11:57 AM
My logic says it would have to be someone who WASN'T available before the season kicked off, as there's no sense to sacking AP after three games unless someone is now available who wasn't at the start of the season...
Surely if it was already on NC's agenda to get rid of Pardew, he would at least want his new man to have pre-season, sign his own players etc?
Hope & pray it's Martin O'Neill, but can't believe NC will manage to pull that off. Got a funny feeling they're already signed up and will be unveiled on Tuesday, can't believe NC would fire Pard's (at this stage) without his replacement already on board.
This needs to be an exciting big name! If it's someone like Curb's I will be very very dissapointed...
P.S. O'Neill is now third favourite on Skybet at 6/1
Probably just hopefull saints fans ptting bets on
Upton72
30-08-2010, 11:57 AM
Would love it to be Eddie Howe just for the enjoyment of ****ing the cherries off.
FYI Ruud Gullit just pulled up next to me and i saw his Sat Nav was set to St Marys.
And where was that then?
yamms_schmitz
30-08-2010, 11:58 AM
All bets off. Zola has dropped from 10/1 to 5/2 fav. It is looking on.
Um Bongo
30-08-2010, 11:58 AM
Zola and Le Tissier dream team.
Saint_clark
30-08-2010, 11:59 AM
All bets off. Zola has dropped from 10/1 to 5/2 fav. It is looking on.
Link?
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Zola and Le Tissier dream team.
Le Tisser will never be allowed back in SMS with Cortese around!!
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 12:00 PM
All bets off. Zola has dropped from 10/1 to 5/2 fav. It is looking on.
the same happend with Strachan before we got Pard's.
he even had his training gear dropped off at his house ;)
madruss
30-08-2010, 12:00 PM
All bets off. Zola has dropped from 10/1 to 5/2 fav. It is looking on.
Doesn't mean anything. They closed the book on WGS becoming Leeds manager when he left us back in 2004...never happened and nor was it ever gonna happen. Truth is, no-one has a clue who that bonkers chairman is going to appoint
SparkySaint
30-08-2010, 12:01 PM
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html
MarkSFC
30-08-2010, 12:01 PM
That sounds like exactly what's happening here.
what a nightmare
knee jerk.....its his first sacking and we dont know whos coming in yet.
When Cortese has sacked ten managers in two weeks then it will be QPR mark2!!!
S-Clarke
30-08-2010, 12:04 PM
knee jerk.....its his first sacking and we dont know whos coming in yet.
When Cortese has sacked ten managers in two weeks then it will be QPR mark2!!!
It's not a knee jerk, it's not just about the sacking of the manager - it's about all the other rubbish that is going on at the club at the moment. Generally, it all stinks.
saint_bert
30-08-2010, 12:05 PM
knee jerk.....its his first sacking and we dont know whos coming in yet.
When Cortese has sacked ten managers in two weeks then it will be QPR mark2!!!
And change mascots ;)
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