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St Landrew
20-10-2008, 01:11 PM
I've decided to stop hijacking Ponty's thread and start a new one. I began to see interesting parallels in F1 engines and racing designs from the 1960s. Everyone has probably read somewhere how Honda came onto the British motorcycle scene and promptly took away the sales, aided by fellow manufacturers, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Kawasaki. But many won't know how innovative they were, for example in their racing engines. Honda were almost exclusively 4-stroke in their approach, unlike the others. So their machines had to be like little jewels to reach similar power outputs of the 2-strokes. Here's a link from the other thread:

http://www.vf750fd.com/Joep_Kortekaas/1964.html

Take a look at some of the specifications. But do remember they're around 40 years old.

Master Bates
20-10-2008, 02:50 PM
Good stuff, they're almost as old as you.

OLYMPIC
20-10-2008, 02:57 PM
I must admit i always liked the V4 2 stroke engines used in the 500cc grand prix days,any engine that can turn out around 180-190bhp from 500cc is a great piece of engineering.It's only a shame that due to emisions laws we never saw there full potential on road bikes.

St Landrew
20-10-2008, 04:56 PM
Good stuff, they're almost as old as you.

Thank you MB for that warm hearted gesture. :(

swannymere
21-10-2008, 03:27 PM
Go on St Landrew, you know you want it;-)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/754744.htm

Master Bates
21-10-2008, 03:39 PM
Thank you MB for that warm hearted gesture. :(


:D
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St Landrew
21-10-2008, 06:19 PM
Go on St Landrew, you know you want it;-)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/754744.htm

Very nice, but I've got a Honda.

Ponty
21-10-2008, 06:32 PM
I can get you a static F1 car for £25k. That'd look nice in your living room.

swannymere
21-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I'd rather have this :smt103

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270288434862

St Landrew
21-10-2008, 07:58 PM
I've got one of these little classics.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/motors/cx/cx500-82.jpg
A 1982 version in black and red. I'm looking for one of these:
http://www.mbd-superbike.de/mbdshop/bike_pictures/honda/ntv650.jpg
A Honda 650 NTV. I like V-Twin power delivery, unburstable motors, and shaft drive. Both these bikes are those things in spades.

swannymere
21-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Do you secretly want to be a courier?

St Landrew
22-10-2008, 10:56 AM
Do you secretly want to be a courier?

Know what you mean. Nah, just like reliability. Couriers can teach us something about that. In the courier world there are plenty of examples of CX500s doing 250,000+ miles without major engine work. I've been reliably informed that there are a few examples that have done over 1,000,000 miles. For a motorcycle engine, that is incredible. It's pretty damn impressive for any piston based, road going engine.

Colinjb
22-10-2008, 12:12 PM
I can get you a static F1 car for £25k. That'd look nice in your living room.

haha

Anything other then a Renault?
:D

Ponty
22-10-2008, 12:28 PM
haha

Anything other then a Renault?
:D

Ermmm... a Benetton?

St Landrew
26-10-2008, 10:27 PM
How about one of these for the back garden..? Jeremy Clarkson used to have one, I believe:

http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/airdays/raf50/lightning.jpg