Carling Cup Seedings - Come on Wycombe and Port Vale?

[Matthew Le God]

The 2nd Round draw takes place live on Sky Sports tonight, following the conclusion of the Wycombe Wanderers v Birmingham City tie, with an approximate time of 10pm (later if extra time and penalties are needed)

All 32 winners from last night's ties will be joined in the draw by the four victors in this evening's fixtures. And twelve Premier League sides will also enter the fray, will all clubs competing in Europe - bar Manchester City - given a bye into the third round.

The Football League has confirmed that tonight's draw will be seeded on last season's finishing positions in the league.

A pre-draw will determine whether the non-seeds will play at home or away, and all seeded teams will then be plucked out of the hat to make up the fixtures.
The line-up is as follows:-

SEEDS
Manchester City
Blackburn Rovers
West Ham United
Newcastle United
Middlesbrough
Wigan Athletic
Sunderland
Bolton Wanderers
Fulham
Reading
Birmingham City (or Wycombe Wanderers)
Derby County
West Brom
Stoke City
Hull City
Bristol City
Crystal Palace
Watford
Wolves
Ipswich Town
Sheffield United (or Port Vale)
Cardiff City
Burnley
QPR

(Should Birmingham or Sheffield United be beaten tonight, Preston North End will become seeds. Should both Birmingham City and Sheffield United be beaten, Preston North End and Southampton will become seeds)

NON-SEEDS
Preston North End
Southampton
Coventry City or Aldershot
Leicester City
Colchester United
Swansea City
Nottingham Forest or Morecambe
Carlisle United
Leeds United
Brighton & HA
Oldham Athletic
Northampton Town
Huddersfield Town
Hartlepool United
Yeovil Town
Cheltenham Town
Crewe Alexandra
Luton Town
MK Dons
Darlington
Rotherham United
Grimsby Town
Macclesfield Town
Notts County

Teams entering in round three are as follows:- Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Manchester United, Portsmouth, Tottenham Hotspur.

So the question is; Do we want Sheff Utd/Brum to lose us to be a seed and play a small side or Saints to not be a seed and play a big club at St Marys for example and get more cash?

[Saint_clark]

Seed and play a small side, for the next two rounds. Get a big club then, when people actually care and will go to watch.
As it is, I think we'll get Blackburn.

[derry]

It would make more sense, and not try to tinker with the draw to put all the names in a bag and draw like the FA cup. The top teams have enough advantage already. If the two top teams have to play each other, so what.

[northants saint]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there must be a team missing off the list; 23 seeds and 24 non seeds.

[Scummer]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there must be a team missing off the list; 23 seeds and 24 non seeds.

Watford and Wolves are on the same line.

[trousers]

Sorry to be pedantic, but there must be a team missing off the list; 23 seeds and 24 non seeds.

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[trousers]

Blimey ...that list of seeds vs non-seeds is a bit of a sobering shot in the arm for anyone who was still clinging forlornly onto the belief that we were still a 'big club'!

[trousers]

It's gotta be Newcastle at home.....

[Nexstar]

Blimey ...that list of seeds vs non-seeds is a bit of a sobering shot in the arm for anyone who was still clinging forlornly onto the belief that we were still a 'big club'!

Goes on where you finished last season, not how big you are.

[Bensfcno1]

Look on the bright side! We cant loose to the skates Eigther way!

[trousers]

Goes on where you finished last season, not how big you are.

Aye...but seeing that list doesn't make it any easier to digest :(

[Bourno]

This is the league cup, so why hand the advantage to the Premier league teams? It should be all into the hat and see what comes out.

[sfcjmcsfc16]

Suns dream team.


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[VectisSaint]

Aye...but seeing that list doesn't make it any easier to digest :(

Now you have some idea how it feels to support Forest or Leeds :( Two times European Champions and 1 time runners-up, not seeded in 2nd round of England's second tier cup competition.

[lee_saint]

This is the league cup, so why hand the advantage to the Premier league teams? It should be all into the hat and see what comes out.

True, also, most of the Premier teams don't really care that much about it. I liked the old Coca Cola way in which Div 2 and Div 3 teams played each other, with the Prem and Div 1 teams coming in during the 2nd round.

[sfcuk fan]

I dont give a fig if were a seed or who we play ......

just so long as we win and get through to the next round thats all that matters :rolleyes:


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[the scud]

Birmingham 1 - 0 up

[JustMike]

why have the seeds at all?? stupid idea and yet more them looking after the big boys again

[luke8588]

Where did you hear about all this seeding?? They don't usually do it like that do they??Can't seem to find any info about the second round draw....anyone help?? :)

[the scud]

why have the seeds at all?? stupid idea and yet more them looking after the big boys again

Totally agree with you, makes the whole competition unfair

[the scud]

Where did you hear about all this seeding?? They don't usually do it like that do they??Can't seem to find any info about the second round draw....anyone help?? :)

The draw will be on Sky Sports News after the Birmingham match

[saint.tom.clancy]

Seeding is very Ghey imo

[the scud]

Sheff utd are winning non - seeds we will be then!