We have to sell

[saintkiptanui]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.

[davefoggy]

****** ****** ******

are u rupert in disguise????

sell best players = relegation

[alpine_saint]

I'll repeat what I wrote on another thread :

I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?

[saintkiptanui]

****** ****** ******

are u rupert in disguise????

sell best players = relegationI don't like woopert but we have to do it, open your pies.

[ottery st mary]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.

Have you not thought we could close the other four corners before getting rid of Davies. That is if he really is going.

[davefoggy]

well if we are that bloody skint where did we find £1.2m to buy spiderman?????

repeat, sell our best players = relegation

[saintkiptanui]

Have you not thought we could close the other four corners before getting rid of Davies. That is if he really is going.errr no. He ain't that good, he looks like homer simpson, big fat wayne will save the day.

[Faz]

I'll repeat what I wrote on another thread :

I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?

How is it gathering pace?

[saintkiptanui]

How is it gathering pace?it's like a juggernaut carrering down snowdon, we're all fooked.

[dubai_phil]

I'll repeat what I wrote on another thread :

I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?

Probably just found the Company Credit Card Bills for all the directors we had last season. They were hidden in the back of a cupboard along with a few other parting gifts I would expect

[krissyboy31]

Lowe had a business plan which was agreed with the banks. That could not have been to sell every senior player, accelerating a downward spiral, ending in certain relegation and then administration.

[Wes Tender]

Why do you feel the need to begin a new thread when you said exactly the same thing on another thread? Plus there is also another thread up and running about whether we are selling Davies.

[JustMike]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.

trouble is..we havent really sold, Rasiak only on loan, the likes or Rudi etc still here. You talk about us having to sell or administration and yet they find wages for the likes of RL / MW and no doubt a few more numpties.

[alpine_saint]

trouble is..we havent really sold, Rasiak only on loan, the likes or Rudi etc still here. You talk about us having to sell or administration and yet they find wages for the likes of RL / MW and no doubt a few more numpties.

Yep.

Watch McGoldrick go to the first club that enquires after him

[ottery st mary]

Yep.

Watch McGoldrick go to the first club that enquires after him

Lallana is the one being watched and will be moving sooner than later and he is a real talent.

[rocknrollman no2]

Its ok saying we have to sell,sell sell, but what happens when the fans stop coming because we have no one left and the football on offer is a very low standard?
If we sell the very few players we have left that are capable of keeping us in this league,then we might as well go into administration now.
Surely most of us go to SMS to cheer on our team and hope for a win?
Take that away and you are left with nothing.

[saintkiptanui]

Its ok saying we have to sell,sell sell, but what happens when the fans stop coming because we have no one left and the football on offer is a very low standard?
If we sell the very few players we have left that are capable of keeping us in this league,then we might as well go into administration now.
Surely most of us go to SMS to cheer on our team and hope for a win?
Take that away and you are left with nothing.the fans have already left, 17000 for first game of season??? I go to watch saints regardless of who's wearing the red and white.

[Totton Red]

Its ok saying we have to sell,sell sell, but what happens when the fans stop coming because we have no one left and the football on offer is a very low standard?
If we sell the very few players we have left that are capable of keeping us in this league,then we might as well go into administration now.
Surely most of us go to SMS to cheer on our team and hope for a win?
Take that away and you are left with nothing.

A downward spirial and thats when the top dogs have to dip into their own reserves to change the fortunes!

[rocknrollman no2]

A downward spirial and thats when the top dogs have to dip into their own reserves to change the fortunes!
You have two hopes of that happening.........
No hope and Bob Hope!!!

[SB]

Kip, you really do talk some bo11ox.

[Colinjb]

Administration now essentially means relegation anyway.

Either way we're ****ed.

[saintkiptanui]

Kip, you really do talk some bo11ox.it's not me, keet is using me as a human glove puppet.

[SB]

it's not me, keet is using me as a human glove puppet.

All is forgiven..

[dubsaint]

Lowe plan is to steady the ship and build up the finances and hoping at the same that we become a mid table championship side, not a great future !!!!!!!!!!

[Rod Le Shearer]

I'll repeat what I wrote on another thread :

I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?


damn,you must have been on one hell of a trip to suffer withdrawal like that. even by your own Armageddon-like standards,this is way more pessimistic than the average score on a mental hospital for severely depressed suicidal wackos..!

off-course its not too late,what an absurd thought. all signs are telling that the fog over our financial issues,is beginning to lift.
imagine what would have happened if Crouch was still in charge,and no players had been sold,and no cutting in costs have been made whatsoever : do you think we`d be in administration by now with that scenario..?
personally I dont think so,I think we would lasted until over christmas if no measures were taken,at the very least.
so how come you think the situation now is so severe,that we are doomed..?? Crouch believed we were in alright shape without cuts being made.and now we have cut costs all over the line,from trainers,staff,players, etcetc.
in addition,we have purchased players-not exactly a sign of bankruptcy is it..?

Rupert has always had a prudent approach,and that line is what he is drawing now again. off-course he doesnt want to have plenty of players earning PL-money..in his eyes that must be madness. with his cheap mindset,its pretty obvious that these players are the first post of expenditure he wants to get rid of..its nothing unatural,its just Ruperts way of doing things. and right now,I believe it is the right thing to do.
who knows,maybe by this time next year,we`ll be wondering who our next decent signing will be-instead of worrying about who`s leaving. If selling the underperforming money-grabbing primadonnas is the way for this to happen,I`m willing to go with the flow-even if it is Ruperts flow !

[slickmick]

damn,you must have been on one hell of a trip to suffer withdrawal like that. even by your own Armageddon-like standards,this is way more pessimistic than the average score on a mental hospital for severely depressed suicidal wackos..!

off-course its not too late,what an absurd thought. all signs are telling that the fog over our financial issues,is beginning to lift.
imagine what would have happened if Crouch was still in charge,and no players had been sold,and no cutting in costs have been made whatsoever : do you think we`d be in administration by now with that scenario..?
personally I dont think so,I think we would lasted until over christmas if no measures were taken,at the very least.
so how come you think the situation now is so severe,that we are doomed..?? Crouch believed we were in alright shape without cuts being made.and now we have cut costs all over the line,from trainers,staff,players, etcetc.
in addition,we have purchased players-not exactly a sign of bankruptcy is it..?

Rupert has always had a prudent approach,and that line is what he is drawing now again. off-course he doesnt want to have plenty of players earning PL-money..in his eyes that must be madness. with his cheap mindset,its pretty obvious that these players are the first post of expenditure he wants to get rid of..its nothing unatural,its just Ruperts way of doing things. and right now,I believe it is the right thing to do.
who knows,maybe by this time next year,we`ll be wondering who our next decent signing will be-instead of worrying about who`s leaving. If selling the underperforming money-grabbing primadonnas is the way for this to happen,I`m willing to go with the flow-even if it is Ruperts flow !


seconded.

[alpine_saint]

damn,you must have been on one hell of a trip to suffer withdrawal like that. even by your own Armageddon-like standards,this is way more pessimistic than the average score on a mental hospital for severely depressed suicidal wackos..!

off-course its not too late,what an absurd thought. all signs are telling that the fog over our financial issues,is beginning to lift.
imagine what would have happened if Crouch was still in charge,and no players had been sold,and no cutting in costs have been made whatsoever : do you think we`d be in administration by now with that scenario..?
personally I dont think so,I think we would lasted until over christmas if no measures were taken,at the very least.
so how come you think the situation now is so severe,that we are doomed..?? Crouch believed we were in alright shape without cuts being made.and now we have cut costs all over the line,from trainers,staff,players, etcetc.
in addition,we have purchased players-not exactly a sign of bankruptcy is it..?



I'll ignore the personal abuse, but this post is utter f**king crap.

Crouch loaned out Skacel and Rasiak last season when the state of the finances became apparent, and he didnt go and hide in Canada on a fishing trip.

The bank would not have allowed Crouch to do nothing - so drop the petty personality ******.

[Snowballs2]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.

And we have to pay top dollar to watch an inferior team ? The fact that Lowe et al expect people to do this is amazing

[alpine_saint]

And we have to pay top dollar to watch an inferior team ? The fact that Lowe et al expect people to do this is amazing

Yep, the arrogance is astounding.

[rick1976.4.38]

alpine,why dont you go on the jeremy kyle show,your boring mate,all you ever do is moan.get behind the saints,ffs

[St Paul]

Rupert has always had a prudent approach,and that line is what he is drawing now again. off-course he doesnt want to have plenty of players earning PL-money..in his eyes that must be madness. with his cheap mindset,its pretty obvious that these players are the first post of expenditure he wants to get rid of..its nothing unatural,its just Ruperts way of doing things. and right now,I believe it is the right thing to do.
!

What about boardroom salaries, are the directors earing "PL-money" or even CCC money? I wonder how they compare to other clubs in our situation..........

[LostBoys]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.

This is really silly. While accepting you have to reduce costs to avoid administration if you sell only those players that will keep you in the Championship then administration will follow anyway i.e. you cannot have a premiership stadium cost in the Championship or League 1 with low gates.

I have real concern that we may be bottom by the end of October with seriously falling gates and administration will then follow. Even if we are taken over at that point and exit Lowe and Co and enter some money the points deduction will ensure we cannot then excape.

[alpine_saint]

This is really silly. While accepting you have to reduce costs to avoid administration if you sell only those players that will keep you in the Championship then administration will follow anyway i.e. you cannot have a premiership stadium cost in the Championship or League 1 with low gates.

I have real concern that we may be bottom by the end of October with seriously falling gates and administration will then follow. Even if we are taken over at that point and exit Lowe and Co and enter some money the points deduction will ensure we cannot then excape.

Good post. Bizarre that so many cannot see the slightly-bigger picture.

[musesaint]

It's a question of balance

And let's not forget Lowe's last big attempt at "balance" ultimately cost us WGS and then a place in the Premiership!

[aintforever]

teams on the verge of admin don't spend 1.5mill euros on an untried French kid.

[Minty]

Good post. Bizarre that so many cannot see the slightly-bigger picture.

Going into administration guarentees losing points. Selling players does not.

I am certainly not going to make any proclaimation about where we'll finish, or even begin to say 'don't worry', because that would be foolish, but if we need to sell more players to stay out of the red then personally I feel it's something we have to do.

And aintforever... we haven't paid out anywhere near as much as 1.5m euros for Schneiderlin yet... it'll be an initially very small amount, increasing over time as appearances increase and other milestones are passed.

[Snowballs2]

alpine,why dont you go on the jeremy kyle show,your boring mate,all you ever do is moan.get behind the saints,ffs

We are all entitled to our opinions, our club has been mismanaged for about 5 years...and..we are expected to pay up and keep quiet. Enough is enough.
Sucssesive groups of people are to blame, the spectators are not, we have no divine responsibility to turn up and watch a sub standard team.

[Snowballs2]

If we go into administration we get points and certain relegation, if you sell the players that can keep us up you get relegation. With administration you get rid of the deadwood directors.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

And we have to pay top dollar to watch an inferior team ? The fact that Lowe et al expect people to do this is amazing

Inferior in what sense ? because there are no big 'names' playing in our shirt ? in terms of football being played I see more quality not a lesser quality as you suggest, get yourself along today and hopefully you will see how we have a team of players that seem to want to play for our club oppose to big time charlies in semi retirement.

[rick1976.4.38]

so much negativity,who is to say this bunch of players wont do well for us as the season goes on,weve played one match in the ccc so far and we looked ok,we are no longer a prem club so we have to cut our cloth accordingly.we are entitled to our opinions but alpine is always so negative.

[dubai_phil]

If we go into administration we get points and certain relegation, if you sell the players that can keep us up you get relegation. With administration you get rid of the deadwood directors.

No you don't.

They have the opportunity to "cut" a preferred deal with the administrator and you can end up like Bournemouth.

Broke because your board has no money for a season. Into administration and any cash you get in pays the Administrators hotel bar bill and you get left with no money and whoopee the same directors with no money but trying to get even MORE back than when you were just broke.

Forget it.

[dubai_phil]

so much negativity,who is to say this bunch of players wont do well for us as the season goes on,weve played one match in the ccc so far and we looked ok,we are no longer a prem club so we have to cut our cloth accordingly.we are entitled to our opinions but alpine is always so negative.

A lot of other teams lost on the opening day of the season and never even looked close to scraping a point out of their game.

Don't see their fans slitting their wrists.

This time last year we got embarrassingly destroyed at home by Palace on the opening day and yet we were all on about pushing on for the playoffs.
We were wrong then as well

[Chez]

teams on the verge of admin don't spend 1.5mill euros on an untried French kid.

I agree clubs going into admin don't buy players, but we certainly did not pay that amount up front, I'd imagine it was about £200k tops and the rest is based on the usual things like games and promotion etc.

[Matthew Le God]

well if we are that bloody skint where did we find £1.2m to buy spiderman?????



We haven't paid anywhere near that for him. It is structured to be mainly all future payments.

[trousers]

well if we are that bloody skint where did we find £1.2m to buy spiderman?????


Arsenal.

HTH

[dubai_phil]

So here it is in black and white

http://www.thisishampshire.net/sport/saints/display.var.2426924.0.euell_and_skacel_will_be_con sidered_if_they_dont_leave.php

[Mr X]

So here it is in black and white

http://www.thisishampshire.net/sport/saints/display.var.2426924.0.euell_and_skacel_will_be_con sidered_if_they_dont_leave.php

I don't get why euell is on high wages he's a bit old and past it :confused:

[dubai_phil]

I don't get why euell is on high wages he's a bit old and past it :confused:

Because we wanted to buy a PL quality team to get back up last year and got him on a freebie instead:-)

[Thedelldays]

I am amazed that some cant understand the need for selling?

we are skint, everyman and his dog knows it..what else is there other than cut the most draining part of the business....

[Torrent Of Abuse]

I am amazed that some cant understand the need for selling?

we are skint, everyman and his dog knows it..what else is there other than cut the most draining part of the business....
...and hope we stay up. Welcome to the last chance saloon. The last of the house-keeping money is going on red (and white).

It's a dangerous tactic, but probably the only one available to us. :(

[Thedelldays]

...and hope we stay up. Welcome to the last chance saloon. The last of the house-keeping money is going on red (and white).

It's a dangerous tactic, but probably the only one available to us. :(


we blew our chance the year burley FAILED to get us up with mega money for this league..and almost all of it in one go..we are easily still paying for it now....

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

What I don't get is how people can be this stupid. People are saying 'How could we afford Spiderman etc'. We certainly didn't pay £1.2m up front. Possibly £250k. The money that the previous directors and Burley wasted on **** players can't be recouped AS NO ONE WANTS THEM. Why can't this be understood? The directors are trying to make the best of a bad mess. What is so difficult to understand? The plan that would have been given to the bank would have been to sell a certain amount of players AND reduce the wage bill. So far, due to world's economic condition and the fact the 'senior' players we have are **** means that people don't want to buy them.

Someone answer me.

[Torrent Of Abuse]

we blew our chance the year burley FAILED to get us up with mega money for this league..and almost all of it in one go..we are easily still paying for it now....
I don't think it's that simple. We have had a succession of poor managers acting under the poor guidance of a poor boardroom. We couldn't earn promotion in our first year down because we were too busy selling the best players and trying to give away the rest. Betting it all on one season after being the poster boys for living frugally was like your grandmother living on 1p a day until she turned 75 and then betting her life savings and a couple of kidneys on a long-shot in the 3:30 from Cheltenham. The roots of our current plight lie a lot further back than Burley's failed promotion season - and they've been watered very well since 2003 too...

[Weston Super Saint]

we blew our chance the year burley FAILED to get us up with mega money for this league..and almost all of it in one go..we are easily still paying for it now....

And for another season or two at least...

[Thedelldays]

And for another season or two at least...
yep...burley failing like he did was so damaging it was unreal...he spent a f-ing fortune and had the advantage of doing it all in pre season...he faled and failed miserably...

sadly, so many thought he was the best thing since sliced bread and SOME ACTUALLY came up with crap about the CCC being "great" and "competitive" and prefered to be here..infact, that was the popular opinion...Burley SHOULD have been under far more pressure than he was...he might have bucked his ideas up or quit..

just goes to show that US football fans have no idea about how to run a club and should (for once) let those who are trying...to do so..

[adriansfc]

****** ****** ******

are u rupert in disguise????

sell best players = relegation

Christ football fans are infuriating aren't they. Doesn't matter how clear you make it. Not selling players = administration. Not some great rescue, but another Bournemouth, Luton or Rotherham.

We're not even selling, or trying to sell great players. We have no stand out stars that would be terrible to lose. Just more experienced high earners who might do a better job. It doesn't mean guaranteed relegation so we're lucky. It just means a risky season in which anything could happen.

How the hell anyone would rather carry on as we had been, or hope for administration I'll never know. But they will, they'll blame Lowe for every sale, make up endless crap and hope they're proved right rather than Saints do well. Thankfully, amongst all the infuriating, short-sighted rubbish on this site, there are many fans on here who do understand, do talk sense and make some good comments.

[modern matron]

So here it is in black and white

http://www.thisishampshire.net/sport/saints/display.var.2426924.0.euell_and_skacel_will_be_con sidered_if_they_dont_leave.php


Frankly, it's pathetic! Why can't these players play? The subs bench today was a n embarrassment. JP could have selected Scacel, Euell, Dyer, Wright-Philips, Thomas - not one was selected! Bloody ridiculous in my opinion. As for JP's mumbling interview on Hampshire radio where he seemed to have no grasp of what had just happened was alarming. Waffling on about not having enough strikers, and Killer being injured???

Fair play we played well in the first half, and showed some great touches. I still felt we lacked a cutting edge though. Chris Perry summed up the second half when he said Birmingham stopped us playing in the second half, and we had no plan B. I reckon if you raise the tempo, mark Schneiderlin and Lallana, isolate the wide men, then play through the acres of space between the wide men and full backs we're in trouble! It happened in the Celtic match as well. I didn't watch the other friendlies.

I really think we're in serious trouble. Young players will lose confidence, and JP does not cut it for me in the Championship.

[Saint Charlie]

Frankly, it's pathetic! Why can't these players play? The subs bench today was a n embarrassment. JP could have selected Scacel, Euell, Dyer, Wright-Philips, Thomas - not one was selected! Bloody ridiculous in my opinion. As for JP's mumbling interview on Hampshire radio where he seemed to have no grasp of what had just happened was alarming. Waffling on about not having enough strikers, and Killer being injured???

Fair play we played well in the first half, and showed some great touches. I still felt we lacked a cutting edge though. Chris Perry summed up the second half when he said Birmingham stopped us playing in the second half, and we had no plan B. I reckon if you raise the tempo, mark Schneiderlin and Lallana, isolate the wide men, then play through the acres of space between the wide men and full backs we're in trouble! It happened in the Celtic match as well. I didn't watch the other friendlies.

I really think we're in serious trouble. Young players will lose confidence, and JP does not cut it for me in the Championship.

Neither did Burley or Pearson so maybe its our expectations that are too high?

[modern matron]

What I don't get is how people can be this stupid. People are saying 'How could we afford Spiderman etc'. We certainly didn't pay £1.2m up front. Possibly £250k. The money that the previous directors and Burley wasted on **** players can't be recouped AS NO ONE WANTS THEM. Why can't this be understood? The directors are trying to make the best of a bad mess. What is so difficult to understand? The plan that would have been given to the bank would have been to sell a certain amount of players AND reduce the wage bill. So far, due to world's economic condition and the fact the 'senior' players we have are **** means that people don't want to buy them.

Someone answer me.

Sorry we aren't paying these guys a fortune are we? If we are and noone wants them why aren't they involved at all? Bloody daft!

I would still like to understand why we are the only club of our size in such a financial mess. We have only had one season without parachute payments, we average 20000 plus gates, we've raised fortunes on players - Bale and Walcott stand out!

I don't recall any club being in such a mess as us. If it moves sell it! If we are still in business in January what price Spiderman, Lallana, McGoldrick and Surman being sold off?

Frankly unless we're taken over we're FINISHED!!!

[Wes Tender]

Sorry we aren't paying these guys a fortune are we? If we are and noone wants them why aren't they involved at all? Bloody daft!

I would still like to understand why we are the only club of our size in such a financial mess. We have only had one season without parachute payments, we average 20000 plus gates, we've raised fortunes on players - Bale and Walcott stand out!

I don't recall any club being in such a mess as us. If it moves sell it! If we are still in business in January what price Spiderman, Lallana, McGoldrick and Surman being sold off?

Frankly unless we're taken over we're FINISHED!!!

You sound about as angry as I still am about it all.

I'm just praying and hoping and wishing that if there is any consortium out there that they come in and take us over sooner rather than later. I haven't heard anybody disputing that we will sell any of our youngsters if they shine and we get offers for them. What's the point of it all if that is what we become, a feeder club to the better fizzy pop league clubs or the Premiership.

[alpine_saint]

Sorry we aren't paying these guys a fortune are we? If we are and noone wants them why aren't they involved at all? Bloody daft!

I would still like to understand why we are the only club of our size in such a financial mess. We have only had one season without parachute payments, we average 20000 plus gates, we've raised fortunes on players - Bale and Walcott stand out!

I don't recall any club being in such a mess as us. If it moves sell it! If we are still in business in January what price Spiderman, Lallana, McGoldrick and Surman being sold off?

Frankly unless we're taken over we're FINISHED!!!

Yep.

The new look Saints team is not cutting it over 90minutes against experienced teams with experienced managers, but a huge amount of unsold experienced talent is frozen out on the golf course whilst the cupboard looks bare for the subs bench.

Ridiculous..........

[Delmary]

or we go into administration, what part of this don't people understand?? it's not woopert doing it to annoy us, he's doing it because he has to.who gives a toss?;)

[Snowballs2]

No you don't.

They have the opportunity to "cut" a preferred deal with the administrator and you can end up like Bournemouth.

Broke because your board has no money for a season. Into administration and any cash you get in pays the Administrators hotel bar bill and you get left with no money and whoopee the same directors with no money but trying to get even MORE back than when you were just broke.

Forget it.

If things are sooo bad let Lowe ,Cowen and Wilde work for nothing and put the money they get currently into the coffers to stave off administration !

[saintkiptanui]

who gives a toss?;)I started this thread under the influence, I regret it now, any thread which ends up with alpine on is a bad thread.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

If things are so bad then why did we spend mone on Schniderlien?

No one seems to have the answer to this question.

[Totton Red]

I started this thread under the influence, I regret it now, any thread which ends up with alpine on is a bad thread.

Thought that most of your input was under the influence!!

[saintkiptanui]

Thought that most of your input was under the influence!!it is but I was under extreme influence, tonight I am under moderate influence.

[AwaySaint1]

Yep.

The new look Saints team is not cutting it over 90minutes against experienced teams with experienced managers, but a huge amount of unsold experienced talent is frozen out on the golf course whilst the cupboard looks bare for the subs bench.

Ridiculous..........

We have dropped the insurance policies that we used to have on first team players.
If they get injured playing then we lose the value on them,the golf course is the cheaper option.

[Snowballs2]

I just wonder how much patience the average non season ticket holder will have if we carry on with results that are happening at the moment?
I am sure that a massive reduction in fans through the turnstiles will happen and our finances will be in an even bigger mess.
How long will people turn up to watch their team getting beaten each week?
Will the stay aways be blamed for not forking out to watch inferior results. There is a hardcore of supporters who would turn up each game to watch a couple of dogs on the pitch provided they were in Saints colours.
After 55 years supporting Saints I now question both my sanity and commitment to the cause.
I cannot justify paying good money out from limited resources to help the club survive after 3 failed boards of directors.
At 70 + my financial resources are limited, how can I justify a trip down to SMS each month with the costs that have to be born.
This is the reason why it would be far easier to support a local team here like Crewe Alex Stoke or even Man City. Once a Saint always a Saint, however I do feel personally let down by very bad decision making of past and present directors who got us into this mess and expect us to turn up each game and hand over our money...its a bit like **** Turpin...stand and deliver, your money or your life

[harvey]

Sell what.........do you have any lucky heather ?

[dubai_phil]

We have dropped the insurance policies that we used to have on first team players.
If they get injured playing then we lose the value on them,the golf course is the cheaper option.

Interesting hypothesis. Any source?

It would show 1) we REALLY are in the sh*t if we are worried about the cost of the premiums and 2) no wonder they aren't "in the squad" if they don't have cover

hmmmmmmmmmm

[St_Tel49]

****** ****** ******

are u rupert in disguise????

sell best players = relegation

not sell best players = administration

[saintkiptanui]

I just wonder how much patience the average non season ticket holder will have if we carry on with results that are happening at the moment?
I am sure that a massive reduction in fans through the turnstiles will happen and our finances will be in an even bigger mess.
How long will people turn up to watch their team getting beaten each week?
Will the stay aways be blamed for not forking out to watch inferior results. There is a hardcore of supporters who would turn up each game to watch a couple of dogs on the pitch provided they were in Saints colours.
After 55 years supporting Saints I now question both my sanity and commitment to the cause.
I cannot justify paying good money out from limited resources to help the club survive after 3 failed boards of directors.
At 70 + my financial resources are limited, how can I justify a trip down to SMS each month with the costs that have to be born.
This is the reason why it would be far easier to support a local team here like Crewe Alex Stoke or even Man City. Once a Saint always a Saint, however I do feel personally let down by very bad decision making of past and present directors who got us into this mess and expect us to turn up each game and hand over our money...its a bit like **** Turpin...stand and deliver, your money or your lifeAfter today I am looking forward to the next home game, somethign I never thought last season, this will be the same as many others there today.

[Gordon Mockles]

Its ok saying we have to sell,sell sell, but what happens when the fans stop coming because we have no one left and the football on offer is a very low standard?
If we sell the very few players we have left that are capable of keeping us in this league,then we might as well go into administration now.
Surely most of us go to SMS to cheer on our team and hope for a win?
Take that away and you are left with nothing.

Very well said although I now fear it is too late if Davies has gone. Shocking. Stupid. Suicidal. Sealed our fate.

What a shambles!

[saintkiptanui]

Very well said although I now fear it is too late if Davies has gone. Shocking. Stupid. Suicidal. Sealed our fate.

What a shambles!drama queen.

[Kadeem Hardison]

I will invest £10m in Southampton Football Club if alpine saint never posts on here again. I will invest £30m if he beats himself to death with his own shoe.

alpine, the future of the club is now in your hands. Show your love.

[sidthesquid]

You've lost your job, you are heavily in debt & the bank are about to repossess your house. Your wife & kids are hungry & fed up and giving you gyp. You've had a battered old sofa and a chest-of-drawers sitting in the garden with a for sale sign on for weeks but no-one is interested when someone comes in and offers you two hundred quid for your wide-screen telly. Do you a) Say no way, it's worth at least five hundred, and besides I'm sure this Friday is going to be the one when I finally win the lottery or b) Grudgingly accept the money, buy a cheap replacement & survive a little longer

[wadesmith]

You've lost your job, you are heavily in debt & the bank are about to repossess your house. Your wife & kids are hungry & fed up and giving you gyp. You've had a battered old sofa and a chest-of-drawers sitting in the garden with a for sale sign on for weeks but no-one is interested when someone comes in and offers you two hundred quid for your wide-screen telly. Do you a) Say no way, it's worth at least five hundred, and besides I'm sure this Friday is going to be the one when I finally win the lottery or b) Grudgingly accept the money, buy a cheap replacement & survive a little longer


Is it HD ready?