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beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 10:50 AM
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Wont do any good but its got it off my chest.
This is it if anyone is interested....and if anyone wants to pull it to shreds, feel free, i dont care !!
Dear Mr Wilde,
I have been a supporter of the once great Southampton Football Club for 31 years. I have seen the good times, the bad times, the indifferent and the just outright bizarre. I have missed maybe 6 home matches in the league since 1978, so I like to think that I have some knowledge of football and the “Spirit of Southampton”.
I left the Doncaster match on 17/1/09 at the end, unlike yourself I believe, and as I walked back to my car I can honestly say that I have NEVER had the same sense of foreboding as I have now about the future of our club. It is the first time in those 31 years that I have lacked the one feeling that all football supporters, whether they follow Real Madrid or Eastleigh should have, and that is the feeling of hope.
As I say, I understand you left when the first songs of protest against the Chairman of the PLC began. That’s a shame as you would have witnessed one of the saddest sites I have ever seen whilst supporting the Saints, and that was of supporters actually fighting each other. How can a football club survive and move forward when their own fan base is so split that there are fights between the very people who should be the lifeblood of a football club?
May I take this opportunity to respectfully remind you that supporters are the paying customers. We do not get in for free, we do not enjoy corporate hospitality (neither it appears does David Armstrong who was removed from one of the suites whilst visiting friends. Tell me Mr Wilde, how many games over how many seasons did he play with distinction for this club ? If Matthew Le Tissier had been told to leave there would have been a riot. This is how the once family club Southampton treat their former players is it ? ), We simply turn up week in week out and pay our money in the hope of being entertained and see our team win. The fact that we are treated so poorly by those that run the club, especially in a time of deep financial turmoil when I would have thought the club needed the supporters more than ever, is beyond my comprehension.
Again, Mr Wilde, unlike yourself I attended the AGM just before Christmas. Such a shame that you could not be there because I feel the behaviour and attitude of the PLC Chairman towards the shareholders who are not in his clique was appalling. The arrogance and pomposity and his preference for talking down to people was really at the height of its powers. It was shameful. Even his old public school fag, Mr Cowen, looked embarrassed and awkward.
As you may have noted, I have not mentioned him by name, I cannot bring myself to do so, the very thought of what one individual has done to the football club I support and love makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. You were heralded as a hero when you ousted him from Southampton back in 2006. Please explain to me how on earth you can seriously do a complete turnabout and support him, hence allowing him back into this football club to continue in the same way as was so abhorrent to you in the first place that you spent millions on shares to oust him ?
How many good people have left this club since the PLC Chairman came back ? Liz Cowley, Woggy Taylor and Graham Hiley to name just three. Two of them went because of what ? Cost cutting ? No, every company the size of this needs a Secretary, you know that as well as I do. And do we now assume the players wash and put out their own kit ? People were dismissed because they had at one point or another, probably under your initial stewardship ironically, spoken out against him. That is petty, vindictive and just plain nasty. This is the sort of person you now feel comfortable supporting is it Mr Wilde ?
As I have said your decision not to attend the AGM, and to leave the Doncaster game as soon as a protest song about the PLC Chairman is entirely up to you, of course it is. But there comes a point when closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears so that you see and hear nothing does nothing. There are none so blind as those who will NOT see. You are unfortunately supremely guilty of this Mr Wilde.
I implore you to consider what you have done to the club and its supporters by allowing this man back into the club to rule it like a dictatorship, to carry out and worse still persevere with this ludicrous Dutch experiment that everybody can see is just not working. For the love of God Mr Wilde act now and rid this club once and for all of the PLC Chairman before there is no club left. He will kill Southampton FC and the “Spirit of Southampton”. Do you really want to be known as the man who gave him the weapon to do so ?
Yours truly,
ottery st mary
18-01-2009, 11:01 AM
Proper job and you have hit the nail on the head...Well done...Hope you get a decent reply.
Excellent BeatleSaint. Very thoughtful and reasoned letter. Perhaps you should send it to the Echo so more than just a handful of internet warriors can read it.
Have you actually sent it to Mr Wilde or is it just an open letter? If so, I wonder if he will even give you the decency of a reply. In light of his recent demonstrations of cowardice, I rather suspect not.
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Excellent BeatleSaint. Very thoughtful and reasoned letter. Perhaps you should send it to the Echo so more than just a handful of internet warriors can read it.
Have you actually sent it to Mr Wilde or is it just an open letter? If so, I wonder if he will even give you the decency of a reply. In light of his recent demonstrations of cowardice, I rather suspect not.
I have sent it to Wilde....and good idea, will send it to The Echo too.
Thanks.
Stu Man Do
18-01-2009, 11:10 AM
Proper job and you have hit the nail on the head...Well done...Hope you get a decent reply.
Unfortunately I can't see Mr Wilde being big enough to post a response to that. When the "chariman" of our club doesnt even bother to attend a highly important AGM and leaves with the team only 1-0 down does this show a level of care that you'd expect from an executive let alone a "fan" and I use that term loosely at the moment.
Heres some more questions for him if he cares to prove me wrong ...
1) What input did you have to appointing the new manager?
2) How do you justify spending x thousand a week on no less than Robertson, Smith, Gasmi, Pullis, Forecast and Pekhart yet loaning out our top scoring strikers Surely you cant be suggesting that a Rasiak or John could have achieved LESS in the same space of time as the above SIX!!!! players?
3) What efforts have been made to help JP out or in fact considered replacements now that its clear he isnt up to the job?
Sold To The Man @ The Bar
18-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Wont do any good but its got it off my chest.
This is it if anyone is interested....and if anyone wants to pull it to shreds, feel free, i dont care !!
Dear Mr Wilde,
I have been a supporter of the once great Southampton Football Club for 31 years. I have seen the good times, the bad times, the indifferent and the just outright bizarre. I have missed maybe 6 home matches in the league since 1978, so I like to think that I have some knowledge of football and the “Spirit of Southampton”.
I left the Doncaster match on 17/1/09 at the end, unlike yourself I believe, and as I walked back to my car I can honestly say that I have NEVER had the same sense of foreboding as I have now about the future of our club. It is the first time in those 31 years that I have lacked the one feeling that all football supporters, whether they follow Real Madrid or Eastleigh should have, and that is the feeling of hope.
As I say, I understand you left when the first songs of protest against the Chairman of the PLC began. That’s a shame as you would have witnessed one of the saddest sites I have ever seen whilst supporting the Saints, and that was of supporters actually fighting each other. How can a football club survive and move forward when their own fan base is so split that there are fights between the very people who should be the lifeblood of a football club?
May I take this opportunity to respectfully remind you that supporters are the paying customers. We do not get in for free, we do not enjoy corporate hospitality (neither it appears does David Armstrong who was removed from one of the suites whilst visiting friends. Tell me Mr Wilde, how many games over how many seasons did he play with distinction for this club ? If Matthew Le Tissier had been told to leave there would have been a riot. This is how the once family club Southampton treat their former players is it ? ), We simply turn up week in week out and pay our money in the hope of being entertained and see our team win. The fact that we are treated so poorly by those that run the club, especially in a time of deep financial turmoil when I would have thought the club needed the supporters more than ever, is beyond my comprehension.
Again, Mr Wilde, unlike yourself I attended the AGM just before Christmas. Such a shame that you could not be there because I feel the behaviour and attitude of the PLC Chairman towards the shareholders who are not in his clique was appalling. The arrogance and pomposity and his preference for talking down to people was really at the height of its powers. It was shameful. Even his old public school fag, Mr Cowen, looked embarrassed and awkward.
As you may have noted, I have not mentioned him by name, I cannot bring myself to do so, the very thought of what one individual has done to the football club I support and love makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. You were heralded as a hero when you ousted him from Southampton back in 2006. Please explain to me how on earth you can seriously do a complete turnabout and support him, hence allowing him back into this football club to continue in the same way as was so abhorrent to you in the first place that you spent millions on shares to oust him ?
How many good people have left this club since the PLC Chairman came back ? Liz Cowley, Woggy Taylor and Graham Hiley to name just three. Two of them went because of what ? Cost cutting ? No, every company the size of this needs a Secretary, you know that as well as I do. And do we now assume the players wash and put out their own kit ? People were dismissed because they had at one point or another, probably under your initial stewardship ironically, spoken out against him. That is petty, vindictive and just plain nasty. This is the sort of person you now feel comfortable supporting is it Mr Wilde ?
As I have said your decision not to attend the AGM, and to leave the Doncaster game as soon as a protest song about the PLC Chairman is entirely up to you, of course it is. But there comes a point when closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears so that you see and hear nothing does nothing. There are none so blind as those who will NOT see. You are unfortunately supremely guilty of this Mr Wilde.
I implore you to consider what you have done to the club and its supporters by allowing this man back into the club to rule it like a dictatorship, to carry out and worse still persevere with this ludicrous Dutch experiment that everybody can see is just not working. For the love of God Mr Wilde act now and rid this club once and for all of the PLC Chairman before there is no club left. He will kill Southampton FC and the “Spirit of Southampton”. Do you really want to be known as the man who gave him the weapon to do so ?
Yours truly,
Bravo ... We know Mr Wilde was both a poster and reader of this site in the past, it's time he gave us all a few answers, so Mr Wilde will you reply to the questions above?
davec
18-01-2009, 11:16 AM
A fantastic post!
I was thinking of trying to post something similar myself - but this post says it all!
I have been a season ticket holder since 1977 and I still go with my Dad who has had his season ticket since 1953!
We were having a serious discussion last night about whether we would renew our tickets next season if Lowe or Wilde still had any influence in the club!
It's sad, but my beloved club is slowly dying before my eyes!
Sold To The Man @ The Bar
18-01-2009, 11:18 AM
I have sent it to Wilde....and good idea, will send it to The Echo too.
Thanks.
You should send it to the nationals at the same time, with a covering letter that outlines the state of the club and the reason why he should answer to the fans
stanthemanfairoak
18-01-2009, 11:22 AM
I have sent it to Wilde....and good idea, will send it to The Echo too.
Thanks.someone must have his address.
That's a brilliant letter. well done.
miserableoldgit
18-01-2009, 11:27 AM
Proper job and you have hit the nail on the head...Well done...Hope you get a decent reply.
I agree. Excellent letter. Don`t hold your breath for a decent reply from a man with less spine than Spongebob Squarepants.
SaintRobbie
18-01-2009, 11:30 AM
Wonderful letter. Sums so much up that is wrong with this club.
Andoverian
18-01-2009, 11:35 AM
Well done Beetlesaint. We must ensure that it is printed by the Echo ! !
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 11:38 AM
if anyone has an address or e mail contact for Mary Corbett could they PM it to me please ?
thanks.
Fitzhugh Fella
18-01-2009, 11:38 AM
Excellent letter but is Wilde man enough to a) answer it and b) actually do something. I fear not.
saintstr1
18-01-2009, 11:39 AM
Excellent letter very well put and every word the truth , Like you I was sick to the pit of my stomach yesterday. Supported the Saints since my first game at the Dell in 1949, In 60years I have never felt this low and ashamed about My Club , My Team.
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 11:39 AM
Well done Beetlesaint. We must ensure that it is printed by the Echo ! !
Thanks, I have sent it electronically to The Echo....so its up to them if they want to print it now !
LostBoys
18-01-2009, 11:45 AM
I think you should send it the echo - I used to send stuff to Adam Leitch adam.leitch@soton-echo.co.uk and perhaps you should do that now. Good stuff
red robbo
18-01-2009, 11:57 AM
brilliant post,just about sums it up.RIP southampton fc
SaintRobbie
18-01-2009, 12:00 PM
brilliant post,just about sums it up.RIP southampton fc
Optimistically, it could of course mean RIP Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC FC, and the eventually ressurection of Southampton Football Club - which really died when Askam created this 'Club' over a decade ago.
WealdSaint
18-01-2009, 01:05 PM
Good letter send it to as many people as you can
St Landrew
18-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Yes, a very good letter indeed. As there is no appealing to Rupert Lowe or Guy Askham, then this is possibly the last reasonable option for Saints fans to ask their Boardroom to listen. I believe Michael Wilde would read it, but as FF says, it's really whether he's got the stomach to a] answer it, and b] do something about it.
Something has to be done.
Legod Third Coming
18-01-2009, 01:35 PM
Well done Beattle. Well done. He must reply if he has any semblence of humanity about him at all.
Otherwise, he is simply unworthy of entry to the club and gorund and should be hounded out.
Snowballs2
18-01-2009, 01:48 PM
At least you were able to get that "off your chest" however our directors are all cowards and will sit on their hands rather than do anything except let the club get further into the mess.
When grown adults act like shoolyard children nothing willget done.
It really is time for Wilde to swallow his pride and and contact Crouch before it is too late
Saint Fan CaM
18-01-2009, 01:51 PM
Good letter - will do nothing of substance though. Wilde clearly is as dynamic as a brick and will take no action as he's probably been told by Rupert that there will be no dissenters and 'terrorists' will be shot! This is the hand he has dealt us - league one football unless by some miracle Lowe is strong enough to get shot of JP and obtain a decent manager....perhaps Dowie. Dunno about you, but I am not holding my breath.
ulstersaint
18-01-2009, 01:57 PM
Thanks for an excellent letter. I have followed The Saints since the early 1950s - though usually from a distance. This letter sums up how we are all feeling today and it must be circulated to all the board members and feature in the Echo.
Unless Lowe abandons this daft dutch strategy he will achieve two relegations but of course, Lowe finds it difficult (perhaps impossible) to admit that he has made a gross error. So our only hope is that Wilde has more humility and good sense.
SimonRichards
18-01-2009, 02:07 PM
What a fantastic post.
explorer saint
18-01-2009, 02:22 PM
Well done my friend you've put it very well and better than I could of done. It was from the heart and my feelings are exactly the same.
Let us know if you get a reply, good luck
saint lard
18-01-2009, 02:27 PM
wont do any good but its got it off my chest.
This is it if anyone is interested....and if anyone wants to pull it to shreds, feel free, i dont care !!
Dear mr wilde,
i have been a supporter of the once great southampton football club for 31 years. I have seen the good times, the bad times, the indifferent and the just outright bizarre. I have missed maybe 6 home matches in the league since 1978, so i like to think that i have some knowledge of football and the “spirit of southampton”.
I left the doncaster match on 17/1/09 at the end, unlike yourself i believe, and as i walked back to my car i can honestly say that i have never had the same sense of foreboding as i have now about the future of our club. It is the first time in those 31 years that i have lacked the one feeling that all football supporters, whether they follow real madrid or eastleigh should have, and that is the feeling of hope.
As i say, i understand you left when the first songs of protest against the chairman of the plc began. That’s a shame as you would have witnessed one of the saddest sites i have ever seen whilst supporting the saints, and that was of supporters actually fighting each other. How can a football club survive and move forward when their own fan base is so split that there are fights between the very people who should be the lifeblood of a football club?
May i take this opportunity to respectfully remind you that supporters are the paying customers. We do not get in for free, we do not enjoy corporate hospitality (neither it appears does david armstrong who was removed from one of the suites whilst visiting friends. Tell me mr wilde, how many games over how many seasons did he play with distinction for this club ? If matthew le tissier had been told to leave there would have been a riot. This is how the once family club southampton treat their former players is it ? ), we simply turn up week in week out and pay our money in the hope of being entertained and see our team win. The fact that we are treated so poorly by those that run the club, especially in a time of deep financial turmoil when i would have thought the club needed the supporters more than ever, is beyond my comprehension.
Again, mr wilde, unlike yourself i attended the agm just before christmas. Such a shame that you could not be there because i feel the behaviour and attitude of the plc chairman towards the shareholders who are not in his clique was appalling. The arrogance and pomposity and his preference for talking down to people was really at the height of its powers. It was shameful. Even his old public school fag, mr cowen, looked embarrassed and awkward.
As you may have noted, i have not mentioned him by name, i cannot bring myself to do so, the very thought of what one individual has done to the football club i support and love makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. You were heralded as a hero when you ousted him from southampton back in 2006. Please explain to me how on earth you can seriously do a complete turnabout and support him, hence allowing him back into this football club to continue in the same way as was so abhorrent to you in the first place that you spent millions on shares to oust him ?
How many good people have left this club since the plc chairman came back ? Liz cowley, woggy taylor and graham hiley to name just three. Two of them went because of what ? Cost cutting ? No, every company the size of this needs a secretary, you know that as well as i do. And do we now assume the players wash and put out their own kit ? People were dismissed because they had at one point or another, probably under your initial stewardship ironically, spoken out against him. That is petty, vindictive and just plain nasty. This is the sort of person you now feel comfortable supporting is it mr wilde ?
As i have said your decision not to attend the agm, and to leave the doncaster game as soon as a protest song about the plc chairman is entirely up to you, of course it is. But there comes a point when closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears so that you see and hear nothing does nothing. There are none so blind as those who will not see. You are unfortunately supremely guilty of this mr wilde.
I implore you to consider what you have done to the club and its supporters by allowing this man back into the club to rule it like a dictatorship, to carry out and worse still persevere with this ludicrous dutch experiment that everybody can see is just not working. For the love of god mr wilde act now and rid this club once and for all of the plc chairman before there is no club left. He will kill southampton fc and the “spirit of southampton”. Do you really want to be known as the man who gave him the weapon to do so ?
Yours truly,
:smt038
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 02:45 PM
Well done my friend you've put it very well and better than I could of done. It was from the heart and my feelings are exactly the same.
Let us know if you get a reply, good luck
Will certainly let you know if he has the decency to reply.
I am not holding my breath however.
As i asked earlier if anyone has an address or e mail for Mary Corbett please could they PM me ?
Thanks
midland saint
18-01-2009, 02:56 PM
A great letter..well done. Earlier this season I sent a letter to Wilde and marked it "private and personal". 2 weeks later I got a standard reply from Lowe. Typical.
georgeg
18-01-2009, 03:07 PM
I have sent it to Wilde....and good idea, will send it to The Echo too.
Thanks.
well done Beatle and sums up the current situation perfectly for me - the natoinals should see this as well as its time the football world was reminded about the type of board we currently have supposedly "representing us"
wilde and lowe - TIME TO GO!!!!!
(and take dave jones - our wizard finance director with you)
A great letter..well done. Earlier this season I sent a letter to Wilde and marked it "private and personal". 2 weeks later I got a standard reply from Lowe. Typical.
Try sending your emails to Simon Voisin - chief executive of the Wilde Family Office based in Jersey.
svoisin@familyoffice.org.uk
alpine_saint
18-01-2009, 03:11 PM
A very good letter......
...and a complete waste of time.
But I hope the release was therapeutic for your good self..
miserableoldgit
18-01-2009, 04:11 PM
A very good letter......
...and a complete waste of time.
But I hope the release was therapeutic for your good self..
Mister Glass Half Full!:)
corsacar saint
18-01-2009, 04:13 PM
A very well written letter, let us hope it gets published in the echo[ 50/50?], and Wilde
acts on it, and the other events but then I doubt it.
Gorgiesaint
18-01-2009, 04:34 PM
A very well written letter, let us hope it gets published in the echo[ 50/50?], and Wilde
acts on it, and the other events but then I doubt it.
A valid point Corsacar Saint.
One possible way round this - if Beatlesaint was to agree as it's his letter - if we all copy it & send it to the Echo. They may find it harder to ignore.
Beatlesaint - if you are in agreement, would you mind posting the email address to send it to.
georgeg
18-01-2009, 04:50 PM
A very good letter......
...and a complete waste of time.
But I hope the release was therapeutic for your good self..
sorry Alpine but I do not agree that its a waste of time - it was a letter that perfectly sums up how most of us are feeling and should be widely distributed and read - its time to put real pressure on the board from many different angles
to sit on your arse complaining and then do nothing - now THATS a waste of time
Under Weststand
18-01-2009, 04:57 PM
That was a good well written letter Beatlesaint. I too hope its printed in the echo as the outfall from Saturday cannot be swept under the carpet. Any pressure that can be put on Wilde & co to change this ludicrous experiment is all right by me. I hope you get a sensible & reasonable reply but as a few have said don't hold your breath.
IN MY DAY
18-01-2009, 05:10 PM
I haven't been able to bring myself to look at this forum till now after yesterdays result, but a very interesting thread, i spoke to an ex-saint at a match today who is enjoying some success coaching at another club but whose heart is obviously with Saints, while discussing his success elsewhere he dropped into the conversation that word is Wilde is seriously talking to someone at present to dump his entire stake, he crossed his fingers and said ''let hope eh''.
Lets all hope !!
alpine_saint
18-01-2009, 05:14 PM
sorry Alpine but I do not agree that its a waste of time - it was a letter that perfectly sums up how most of us are feeling and should be widely distributed and read - its time to put real pressure on the board from many different angles
to sit on your arse complaining and then do nothing - now THATS a waste of time
Look, I agree with the letter completely, and I hope something comes of it, but I have more than a shred of doubt...
supaimpy_returns
18-01-2009, 05:42 PM
hmm well one way would be to use the echo's forum to let them knowthat this letter exists,
hard for them to ignore mass forum postings
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 06:29 PM
A valid point Corsacar Saint.
One possible way round this - if Beatlesaint was to agree as it's his letter - if we all copy it & send it to the Echo. They may find it harder to ignore.
Beatlesaint - if you are in agreement, would you mind posting the email address to send it to.
No problem at all, if anyone wants to copy it and send it to the Echo then go ahead.
I sent it to their electronic letters page on their website and to Adam Leitch's e mail as another poster suggested. It is adam.leitch@soton-echo.co.uk
If anyone wants to forawrd it to any other media outlet then be my guest. Its obviously written from my point of view but hopefully it sums up the feelings and mood of many Saints fans.
By the many generous and positive comments on this thread that would appear to be the case.....so thanks !
Toomer
18-01-2009, 06:35 PM
Seven letters for both Lowe & Wilde. FECK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
corky morris
18-01-2009, 06:59 PM
Excellent Beatle. Summarises very well what I was thinking, unfortunately apathy has ruled my heart & i cant quite get the motivation to do similar (again) & write to those in power at our football club.
Bravo!
SaintRobbie
18-01-2009, 07:25 PM
"We remind you that the contents of the forum do not necessarily represent the views of SaintsWeb or their directors. "
,
Oh really? ;)
Fowllyd
18-01-2009, 07:41 PM
Excellent letter. I reckon the Echo will probably publish it; they may even decide to make more of it than they normally would of a letter, who knows. After all, their business is selling papers, and something like this could up circulation somewhat.
If they don't then I think it's safe to say that Wilde, a man with all the courage of a louse, won't reply. If they do, and particularly if they give it major coverage as well, Wilde's position will be considerably more difficult. But I still wouldn't expect a response from him that actually means anything.
Fitzhugh Fella
18-01-2009, 07:43 PM
Oh really? ;)
A bit of a strange disclaimer I have to admit
Clapham Saint
18-01-2009, 07:45 PM
"We remind you that the contents of the forum do not necessarily represent the views of SaintsWeb or their directors. This thread is made a sticky by popular choice and not at the views of the owners of saintsweb ltd"
Wont do any good but its got it off my chest.
This is it if anyone is interested....and if anyone wants to pull it to shreds, feel free, i dont care !!
Dear Mr Wilde,
I have been a supporter of the once great Southampton Football Club for 31 years. I have seen the good times, the bad times, the indifferent and the just outright bizarre. I have missed maybe 6 home matches in the league since 1978, so I like to think that I have some knowledge of football and the “Spirit of Southampton”.
I left the Doncaster match on 17/1/09 at the end, unlike yourself I believe, and as I walked back to my car I can honestly say that I have NEVER had the same sense of foreboding as I have now about the future of our club. It is the first time in those 31 years that I have lacked the one feeling that all football supporters, whether they follow Real Madrid or Eastleigh should have, and that is the feeling of hope.
As I say, I understand you left when the first songs of protest against the Chairman of the PLC began. That’s a shame as you would have witnessed one of the saddest sites I have ever seen whilst supporting the Saints, and that was of supporters actually fighting each other. How can a football club survive and move forward when their own fan base is so split that there are fights between the very people who should be the lifeblood of a football club?
May I take this opportunity to respectfully remind you that supporters are the paying customers. We do not get in for free, we do not enjoy corporate hospitality (neither it appears does David Armstrong who was removed from one of the suites whilst visiting friends. Tell me Mr Wilde, how many games over how many seasons did he play with distinction for this club ? If Matthew Le Tissier had been told to leave there would have been a riot. This is how the once family club Southampton treat their former players is it ? ), We simply turn up week in week out and pay our money in the hope of being entertained and see our team win. The fact that we are treated so poorly by those that run the club, especially in a time of deep financial turmoil when I would have thought the club needed the supporters more than ever, is beyond my comprehension.
Again, Mr Wilde, unlike yourself I attended the AGM just before Christmas. Such a shame that you could not be there because I feel the behaviour and attitude of the PLC Chairman towards the shareholders who are not in his clique was appalling. The arrogance and pomposity and his preference for talking down to people was really at the height of its powers. It was shameful. Even his old public school fag, Mr Cowen, looked embarrassed and awkward.
As you may have noted, I have not mentioned him by name, I cannot bring myself to do so, the very thought of what one individual has done to the football club I support and love makes me sick to the pit of my stomach. You were heralded as a hero when you ousted him from Southampton back in 2006. Please explain to me how on earth you can seriously do a complete turnabout and support him, hence allowing him back into this football club to continue in the same way as was so abhorrent to you in the first place that you spent millions on shares to oust him ?
How many good people have left this club since the PLC Chairman came back ? Liz Cowley, Woggy Taylor and Graham Hiley to name just three. Two of them went because of what ? Cost cutting ? No, every company the size of this needs a Secretary, you know that as well as I do. And do we now assume the players wash and put out their own kit ? People were dismissed because they had at one point or another, probably under your initial stewardship ironically, spoken out against him. That is petty, vindictive and just plain nasty. This is the sort of person you now feel comfortable supporting is it Mr Wilde ?
As I have said your decision not to attend the AGM, and to leave the Doncaster game as soon as a protest song about the PLC Chairman is entirely up to you, of course it is. But there comes a point when closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears so that you see and hear nothing does nothing. There are none so blind as those who will NOT see. You are unfortunately supremely guilty of this Mr Wilde.
I implore you to consider what you have done to the club and its supporters by allowing this man back into the club to rule it like a dictatorship, to carry out and worse still persevere with this ludicrous Dutch experiment that everybody can see is just not working. For the love of God Mr Wilde act now and rid this club once and for all of the PLC Chairman before there is no club left. He will kill Southampton FC and the “Spirit of Southampton”. Do you really want to be known as the man who gave him the weapon to do so ?
Yours truly,
+1
Very sad to say it but I'm now no longer trying to work out how we are going to turn the season around. I don't think it will be possible under the current leadership as L**e will not admit that he has made a mistake. I actually think that he revels in the fans (who i beleive he considers to irrelevant working class commoners) hatred and the campain to get rid of him only serves to fuel his ego.
The only way that I can see him going is if we go into administration and somebody else comes in to buy the club.
I have accepted that we will go down. The only question is whether L**e has (or has access to) the cash to buy the clubs after it goes into admistration.
I hope to god he doesn't.
CS
dubai_phil
18-01-2009, 07:45 PM
A bit of a strange disclaimer I have to admit
Sunday afternoon lawyers at work methinks
Good letter though
Thedelldays
18-01-2009, 07:45 PM
seems wilde is the man to target for change
good letter
SaintRobbie
18-01-2009, 07:45 PM
A bit of a strange disclaimer I have to admit
Yes.
Thedelldays
18-01-2009, 07:46 PM
saintsweb LTD OUT ffs
Fan The Flames
18-01-2009, 07:51 PM
I hope this letter penetrates Wildes thick skin and does some good, but judging by the way the cu*t used us and stitched us up I doubt he gives a sh*t about us, the club, its past or its future.
St Landrew
18-01-2009, 07:53 PM
A bit of a strange disclaimer I have to admit
I would have thought it was quite obvious Duncan. SaintsWeb don't want Rupert and Co thinking that the website has manipulated its members, and that it came from one genuine fan which gained verbal support. It is something the Amin and Mods have had a little chat about before sticking the thread. It's only so Rupert can't point the finger - which I'm sure he will do in any case.
Belgiansaint
18-01-2009, 07:55 PM
Excellent, heartfelt post.
saint1977
18-01-2009, 07:56 PM
Great letter Beatle Saint. Wilde has let us down badly and this is his last chance to salvage anything from this mess. From speaking to the few STs I know that are left, all of them have had a gutful of this regime and will not be renewing. Judging by the dreadful atmosphere yesterday, they will be in a majority.
I cannot see the club even shifting 1000-2500 STs next season without wholesale changes and we all know that means meltdown. The fans will rally round - the Sheff Utd game showed that - but they will no longer prop up this regime.
Yesterday was the pits - even allowing for the lack of experience on the pitch, there was no fight or effort on it from Saints but sadly plenty in the Northam, which I do not condone.
Lunatic Fridge
18-01-2009, 07:57 PM
A great letter - but events have moved on now beyond letters and emails. It now has to get nasty. It is the only reaction these drones running SFC will understand. It has happened at other clubs across Europe and it will have to happen here if you want a satisfactory conclusion to this dire state of affairs.
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 08:06 PM
I would have thought it was quite obvious Duncan. SaintsWeb don't want Rupert and Co thinking that the website has manipulated its members, and that it came from one genuine fan which gained verbal support. It is something the Amin and Mods have had a little chat about before sticking the thread. It's only so Rupert can't point the finger - which I'm sure he will do in any case.
I wonder if Rupert will ring me up and call me an arsehole many times like he did with Duncan ?
Thanks mods for making it a Sticky.....and i understand fully the thinking behind the dis-claimer......even though I haven't actually written anything that is libelous or untrue for that matter.
Bailey
18-01-2009, 08:19 PM
I wonder if Rupert will ring me up and call me an arsehole many times like he did with Duncan ?
Thanks mods for making it a Sticky.....and i understand fully the thinking behind the dis-claimer......even though I haven't actually written anything that is libelous or untrue for that matter.
As Benitez would say, "we're talking about FACTS!" ;)
saint lard
18-01-2009, 08:20 PM
I would have thought it was quite obvious Duncan. SaintsWeb don't want Rupert and Co thinking that the website has manipulated its members, and that it came from one genuine fan which gained verbal support. It is something the Amin and Mods have had a little chat about before sticking the thread. It's only so Rupert can't point the finger - which I'm sure he will do in any case.
What even the Ugandan military dictator Idi still has a say from beyond the grave......I wont appeal any infractions if that is the case:)
I wonder if Rupert will ring me up and call me an arsehole many times like he did with Duncan ?
Thanks mods for making it a Sticky.....and i understand fully the thinking behind the dis-claimer......even though I haven't actually written anything that is libelous or untrue for that matter.
Yes I know, it's not the content that's the issue, but by making a thread "sticky", it often implies it as "official" or "having the backing" of the forum admins/mods/saintsweb. It was merely put there as a reminder, not really to our members, but to those who don't regularly read the forum who might think that this is the forum/saintsweb official line.
beatlesaint
18-01-2009, 08:32 PM
Yes I know, it's not the content that's the issue, but by making a thread "sticky", it often implies it as "official" or "having the backing" of the forum admins/mods/saintsweb. It was merely put there as a reminder, not really to our members, but to those who don't regularly read the forum who might think that this is the forum/saintsweb official line.
Completely understand, no problem.
SFC Forever
18-01-2009, 09:04 PM
As a member of various forums that are saints related would you mind me posting elsewhere? Christ this letter sums up to a T exactly how I and thousands feel. I could post it on a few other sites if you permit.
Deano6
18-01-2009, 09:15 PM
Good letter. Well done.
SW11_Saint
18-01-2009, 09:51 PM
Great letter BeatleSaint - summing up the feelings of the vast majority of Saints fans.
Or course Wilde will not reply. Even if he wanted to, he'd have to hand it in to Rupert to get permission to do so...
CLOTH EARS
18-01-2009, 10:17 PM
A brilliant letter.
People make no mistake this time the protests need to be taken to a level never ever seen at SFC, EVERYBODY Do you care about this club enough to get off your backside and contribute time and energy into ridding this club of the evil that runs it? We need to get together and agree action plans on how to shame Wilde and Lowe out of this club FOR GOOD!!! we will never get everybody to agree on what to do, but we should be able to muster up significant numbers to protest in and out of the ground we also need new ideas, things that have never been done before, some things that will catch the imagination and get us good media coverage. Get your thinking heads on folks. How about a creating the worlds longest banner with LOWE & WILDE OUT NOW on it that thousands of saints fans could dangle from the itchen bridge before a league game or could we hold a Lowe & Wilde out prossession in cars and lorries along the main routes through southampton, We could do it on a saturday morning b4 a home game It could l start at Redbridge and go through southampton right through Bitterne and across to Bursledon where we could all meet up and have a short Lowe & Wilde out rally on the Bursledon Market site??? before everybody goes off to St Marys to watch the game. Can you imagine hundreds of vehicles decked out in red and white with Lowe & Wilde out banners on them travelling right through the city from one end to the other? Think about it!
eelpie
18-01-2009, 11:43 PM
A very good letter......
...and a complete waste of time.
But I hope the release was therapeutic for your good self..
A complete waste of a post alpine.
offix
18-01-2009, 11:55 PM
Good letter, disappointing disclaimer.
SFC Forever
19-01-2009, 06:36 AM
Good letter, disappointing disclaimer.
I may not be bright but even I am able to see why this disclaimer has been entered on the post. Lots complained when charged £5 for the right to membership of this site. Yet seem willing to wish the owners a legal case against the sneaky, arrogant, egotistical piece of s**t running our club into the ground.
I found it easier to read all of the posts and agree with the vast majority. It is probable that Lowe will totally ignore this letter. However it could bring a lot of supporters together if published because it sums up so many peoples views. Apart that is from wishing the man a very painful exit. The T**t is a complete fool and he will lose a lot more if he drives us into administration.
So well done Beatle and I have posted it on to the site used by me more often. This letter just has to be broadcast to a greater spectrum of support.
Just think 20,000 true supporters each pay £400 into a trust and we have an £8 million war chest.
paris
19-01-2009, 07:58 AM
Thanks for taking the time to write the letter i just hope it has some positive affect...
alpine_saint
19-01-2009, 08:15 AM
A complete waste of a post alpine.
not at all; I wanted beatlesaint to know his effort is appreciated, but wont change anything
Snowballs2
19-01-2009, 09:01 AM
A bit of a strange disclaimer I have to admit
As far as Mr Wilde goes....the great hope of SFC failed twice to deliver the club back to the supporters, his statement originally and I quote roughly what he said at the time "We have got our club back" is the most derisive comment made.
As far as he is concerned there is nobody so blind as those that do not want to see, there is is nobody so deaf as those that do not want to hear.
Whatever Mr Wilde may say at any time now or in the future people will never believe him.
How sad for someone who could have done so much for our club, that now stands by and watches the demolition of our great club under the leadership of Lowe, Portaloo and the rest of the Dutch encumberants.
For once in your life be a man , stand up, be counted, unite with Crouch and get rid of Mr Lowe IMMEDIATELY, or forever be despised by ALL the fans of this club.
ottery st mary
19-01-2009, 09:18 AM
As far as Mr Wilde goes....the great hope of SFC failed twice to deliver the club back to the supporters, his statement originally and I quote roughly what he said at the time "We have got our club back" is the most derisive comment made.
As far as he is concerned there is nobody so blind as those that do not want to see, there is is nobody so deaf as those that do not want to hear.
Whatever Mr Wilde may say at any time now or in the future people will never believe him.
How sad for someone who could have done so much for our club, that now stands by and watches the demolition of our great club under the leadership of Lowe, Portaloo and the rest of the Dutch encumberants.
For once in your life be a man , stand up, be counted, unite with Crouch and get rid of Mr Lowe IMMEDIATELY, or forever be despised by ALL the fans of this club.
This is the strange thing at the mo. Michael Wilde has the key for to-day. Again..... So he has to live up to his original promise.
We need, instant quick fix, before it is too late and Weston Saint/Rons idea of a vision statement could be followed.
So Mr Wilde, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE......yOU KNOW YOU HAVE MADE MISTAKES..WE ALL HAVE .......But you did not realise what Mr Lowe could do....You must see now what he is capable of and how you are being shunted exit stage left and ridiculed by his actions and his supporters loudly blaming you for all our current problems.
OVER TO YOU MRWilde short term fix is required now and some/many good people can come together to sort the long term problems....We must at least try.
Victor
19-01-2009, 09:54 AM
Very well put, agree wholly with what was said and applaud the effort.
Why does adding my comment feel the same as when adding appreciation and condolences after the death of one of our great players?
eelpie
19-01-2009, 10:27 AM
not at all; I wanted beatlesaint to know his effort is appreciated, but wont change anything
Sadly, I agree that the letter won't change anything. Wilde and Lowe are firmly entrenched at SLH. But your letter was very economical in it's appreciation of an excellent letter, if that was your intention.
Gemmel
19-01-2009, 10:55 AM
"Mary, our club is in serious danger of extinction under the current leadership - I will not stand by and let it die!"
Michael Wilde April 2008
Can i remind you of the last bit of that statement Mr Wilde. Now's the time to prove to us you "Will not stand by and let it die"
Channon's Sideburns
19-01-2009, 11:08 AM
"Mary, our club is in serious danger of extinction under the current leadership - I will not stand by and let it die!"
Michael Wilde April 2008
Can i remind you of the last bit of that statement Mr Wilde. Now's the time to prove to us you "Will not stand by and let it die"
Exactly, the same individual now has a chance to redeem himself.
'Agent for Change' - IT'S TIME MICHAEL - SHOW SOME BALLS AND KICK THAT JOKER OUT - THIS TIME FOR GOOD.
Who knows, you may be able to get rid of those remaining 15,000 'Saints Go Wilde' T-Shirts...
I'd buy one then....
Dibden Purlieu Saint
19-01-2009, 11:26 AM
I think that someone needs to write to Crouch as well, and plead with him to do something. I know that he would give up so much to do it, maybe a combination of letters to Wilde and Crouch to see if that would do any good. I was utterly appalled when I heard about Saturdays violence, and something needs to be done and soon.
Snowballs2
19-01-2009, 11:32 AM
We need an arbitrator to sit with the two guys and talk to them about unifying to get Lowe out.
Someone who has no existing connection with either camp, "an honest broker". It must be done before it is too late.
Perhaps a respected ex player Mick Channon? could arbitrate and then we would know who is really a supporter of the club and who is just along for the bumpy ride
Joesaint
19-01-2009, 11:34 AM
I used to be so optimistic that it will all work out...
I don't even know what's best for the club any more. All I know is I don't like RL or MW.
Don't have a problem with the manager, he had the chance and took it as anyone in his position would. Feel bad for him really.
We need an arbitrator to sit with the two guys and talk to them about unifying to get Lowe out.
Someone who has no existing connection with either camp, "an honest broker". It must be done before it is too late.
Perhaps a respected ex player Mick Channon? could arbitrate and then we would know who is really a supporter of the club and who is just along for the bumpy ride
This is a road that i feel would bear fruits.
Dibden Purlieu Saint
19-01-2009, 11:58 AM
This is a road that i feel would bear fruits.
Someone MUST have some connections with either one, someone who has conversed with either before, whether by letter or face to face. GM for example, lol!
I know he's a ****, but this is for the good of the club, can we get Nick Illingsworth involved?
JonnyLove
19-01-2009, 12:06 PM
can we get Nick Illingsworth involved?
God no please all he will want is a place on the board.
mike_1122
19-01-2009, 12:20 PM
What a detailed and honest letter from the heart.
I agree with all you have stated and think this should also go to the Echo and indeed to the top papers and raise the profile of the death to Southampton football club.
Being at the game on Saturday really hit home that this once great club is in the worst state I have ever seen and being run by people who just to not have a heart to our beloved clubs future. We need to all do the same protests again next home match and contimue with the outcry against Lowe and Wilde. Unless supporters take things into our own hands and keep the pressure on the board nothing will change and we will see our club die before our very eyes. Supporters need to watch the game and all get round to the corpoarte are and vent their frustration and mush as possible. It time for us Supporters to make the stance and enough is enough and we will not take this anymore .
"Save our Club"
St.Patrik
19-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Hmmm a new Poster - Ruperts PR company are working fast this time ; )
Channon's Sideburns
19-01-2009, 12:25 PM
Hmmm a new Poster - Ruperts PR company are working fast this time ; )
Or possibly one of the ST holders pushed too far???
If so, welcome to the madhouse. Here's where you create change.
Keeping your club alive costs.
And here is where you start paying.
(Gratuitous 'Fame' reference but loved that JLC prog at Xmas).
mike_1122
19-01-2009, 12:26 PM
fantatsic idea, I am sure we would all do this if this was set up correctly. this needs to be done using a web site where we go in and register that we will be there. As for the biggest banner again lets use the web site and pay money for the banner. I would support any initative to get poison out of our club. Just need some suportes with the know how to set up.
Save our Club......
Weston Super Saint
19-01-2009, 01:24 PM
Did Wilde answer the letter?
Channon's Sideburns
19-01-2009, 01:26 PM
Did Wilde answer the letter?
Unfortunately not yet, he was away from his postbox on a prior engagement.
Weston Super Saint
19-01-2009, 01:28 PM
Unfortunately not yet, he was away from his postbox on a prior engagement.
Well, when he gets the letter, let's hope he doesn't get half way through it then walk out of the room and do something else....
saints_is_the_south
19-01-2009, 02:01 PM
I'll send it on to David Luker aswell if you don't mind beatlesaint?
saint_neilo
19-01-2009, 02:05 PM
Well said that is brilliantly put hopefully he reads this through and bucks his idea's up and sort our club and the chairman of the PLC out once and for all i hope you have managed to put this letter out and about so Mr Wilde and My Lowe have to read it!
Well Said once again.
Weston Super Saint
19-01-2009, 02:07 PM
Well said that is brilliantly put hopefully he reads this through and bucks his idea's up and sort our club and the chairman of the PLC out once and for all i hope you have managed to put this letter out and about so Mr Wilde and My Lowe have to read it!
Well Said once again.
Freud would have a field day :rolleyes:
saint_neilo
19-01-2009, 02:10 PM
Freud would have a field day :rolleyes:
Sorry Typo
beatlesaint
19-01-2009, 04:01 PM
Can I just say i have no problems with people sending this letter or posting to whatever site they want to.
Carry on. Although its my opinion and how i feel if it speaks for many Saints fans then that is brilliant.
I dont expect an answer (only posted it today) but obviously if one comes back I will let you all know. My mate wrote to him before Christmas and he got a reply, its said **** all but he did respond
Le Goddard
19-01-2009, 04:16 PM
An excellent message that outlines the problems but suggests no solution...
If Rupert goes and no one invests, we will be worse off. Its painful.
Any ideas?
Channon's Sideburns
19-01-2009, 04:21 PM
An excellent message that outlines the problems but suggests no solution...
If Rupert goes and no one invests, we will be worse off. Its painful.
Any ideas?
If Rupert stays, we'll be worse off anyway.
It's painful....investment is a LONG way away, regardless of who is in charge.
John Smith
19-01-2009, 05:01 PM
An excellent message that outlines the problems but suggests no solution...
If Rupert goes and no one invests, we will be worse off. Its painful.
Any ideas?
Blinkers on, eyes front!
Have you still got your £50 betting slip with Saints to win the league?
Funny, I don;t remember you being so against Lowe when he returned WITHOUT any further investment. Change for changes sake wasn;t it?
Funny how some can be so hypocritical and deluded at the same time.
SFC Forever
19-01-2009, 05:10 PM
Just a thought but someone like David Armstrong and Big Mac would surely know how to use this letter to advantage. They both love this club and listening to David over the last few weeks he is hurting just like us. With their contacts and others in the same position is it not possible to have our true feelings aired prominantly.
I actually noticed in the sun a short article by Steven Howard which was directed directly at Lowe. Our plight is getting noticed and our position must reach the media as quickly as possible.
If something is organised I am starting to believe we could draw a lot of publicity to our cause. What we really need is a unity amongst all Saints fans. Being the largest site we have, this one should be able to take the lead. The word of "a happening" could be spread very easily by all members of this and other sites simpl by copying the details and handing the copies out. 15500 average gates. 2000 members from this and other sites copy details 12 times and we have enough copies for a completely full ground. This is just an idea and you may laugh but it would be cheap and no one person would be footing a big bill.
Gordon Mockles
19-01-2009, 05:10 PM
Blinkers on, eyes front!
.......
Funny how some can be so hypocritical and deluded at the same time.
I think you'll find most of Le Goddard's posts are pretty meaningless!
Good letter though BeatleSaint. Shame it seems too late for our club. We all knew it would happen but quietly hoped not.
Navysaint
19-01-2009, 05:26 PM
I couldn't have put it better myself.
On a different note does Doncaster win the picture of the train back??
graymalkin33
19-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Great letter.
Wont do any good though.
But it cant hurt can it.
Oh and the guy up there who wrote to Wilde n got a reply from Lowe - thats just shocking.. Jeeez
gonzo
19-01-2009, 07:04 PM
Good letter, sums up the situation perfectly. Well said, beatlesaint.
VectisSaint
19-01-2009, 07:39 PM
I couldn't have put it better myself.
On a different note does Doncaster win the picture of the train back??
No, they have been presented with a picture of Rupert Lowe to inspire them and ensure they never go down the same path as us. I hear they have installed it in their outside loo.
SaintRobbie
19-01-2009, 08:33 PM
Yes I know, it's not the content that's the issue, but by making a thread "sticky", it often implies it as "official" or "having the backing" of the forum admins/mods/saintsweb. It was merely put there as a reminder, not really to our members, but to those who don't regularly read the forum who might think that this is the forum/saintsweb official line.
It bloody well should be. How about a poll?
Le Goddard
19-01-2009, 10:49 PM
Blinkers on, eyes front!
Have you still got your £50 betting slip with Saints to win the league?
Funny, I don;t remember you being so against Lowe when he returned WITHOUT any further investment. Change for changes sake wasn;t it?
Funny how some can be so hypocritical and deluded at the same time.
FYI it was £25 doubled. I thought id take a punt after watching us vs westham and celtic pre season. It was a bit of fun and I have since hedged that bet which was always part of the plan.
Im not deluded i just like to give things a chance and take a gamble but things havent worked out.
I dont really see why i have to justify myself to you. My profession lies away from football. I'm hardly a pundit, just a fan and like you want the best for saints fc.
Saint Garrett
20-01-2009, 05:57 PM
Have you got a response yet ?!
trousers
20-01-2009, 07:32 PM
...
Channon's Sideburns
20-01-2009, 07:43 PM
To be honest, after today's crock of sh1te, Wilde also needs to add WHY we are persisting with Poortvliet to his list.
Come on Mike, tell us why he is the best man for the job....:)
beatlesaint
20-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Have you got a response yet ?!
No.
I'm not sure why there's so much bitterness towards Rupert Lowe.
If you see this article from 5 years ago, you'll see that we are at team on the up under Lowe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/1947017.stm
What's everyone's problem?
Channon's Sideburns
20-01-2009, 08:34 PM
I'm not sure why there's so much bitterness towards Rupert Lowe.
If you see this article from 5 years ago, you'll see that we are at team on the up under Lowe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/1947017.stm
What's everyone's problem?
Hmmmm...
'I wouldn't say it was a mistake appointing Stuart Gray' ??????????!!!????????
Course not, because who decided who was appointed after it's gone wrong???
The Board.
When things go right, it's never the 'board's decision' then is it?
BTW The 'up' stopped when Rupert denied Strachan the opportunity to sign better players like Malbranque and Saha.
Shrivvy Saint
20-01-2009, 09:57 PM
A spot-on letter.
I felt like this after supporting the club for 35 years and being an ST holder for much of that time, at the end of the 06/07 season. Despite reaching the play-offs I just knew that it was just downhill from that point and have not stepped into the ground since.
Snowballs2
21-01-2009, 08:45 AM
I'm not sure why there's so much bitterness towards Rupert Lowe.
If you see this article from 5 years ago, you'll see that we are at team on the up under Lowe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/1947017.stm
What's everyone's problem?
I cannot believe that you do not understand that Lowe was the cause of todays problems, appointing crap managers, cheap options, poor player signings and letting all our good players go
Weston Super Saint
21-01-2009, 10:15 AM
I cannot believe that you do not understand that Lowe was the cause of todays problems, appointing crap managers, cheap options, poor player signings and letting all our good players go
I think a whooosshhhh is in order, as I doubt Rory was being serious with his article from FIVE years ago ;)
St Landrew
21-01-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm not sure why there's so much bitterness towards Rupert Lowe.
If you see this article from 5 years ago, you'll see that we are at team on the up under Lowe:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/1947017.stm
What's everyone's problem?
Has anyone noticed the other articles on the right of the main one. One leaps out:
Saints sign Swedish Defender..!
We had no idea how good he would turn out to be.
Blandford saint
21-01-2009, 12:31 PM
Great letter. I will be writing my own letter to Wilde in my own words but with similar sentiments. The more of us that make the effort the better.
saintdownunder
23-01-2009, 09:43 PM
The letter from Beatlesaint obviously come`s from the heart and is way to on-oust for a man of Wilde character to absorb and act upon.
He can`t say he wasn`t aware of the true feelings of the fans towards the current board and especially the chairman`s roll in our current plight.
Weston Super Saint
23-01-2009, 10:44 PM
Did he reply yet?
We know he must have been in the office and working late tonight, because he put out a press release ;)
Channon's Sideburns
23-01-2009, 10:46 PM
Mr Wilde,
You must have no self respect or business acumen.
Good night, sleep well you two-faced property developer (how's it going??)
Are you coming with us next Saturday, I'll buy you a pint.
CS
saint lard
23-01-2009, 11:42 PM
Mr Wilde,sod off.
Oops,forgot the please.
SaintRobbie
24-01-2009, 12:13 AM
"We remind you that the contents of the forum do not necessarily represent the views of SaintsWeb or their directors. This thread is made a sticky by popular choice and not as the views of the owners of SaintsWeb Ltd"
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Time to show some guts Steve. This caveat is now unacceptable.
Weston Saint
24-01-2009, 09:06 AM
Time to show some guts Steve. This caveat is now unacceptable.That is a naive comment.
beatlesaint
24-01-2009, 10:21 AM
Still no reply..................I wont be holding my breath.
The Old Codger
24-01-2009, 07:10 PM
I personally think Rupert Lowe is doing the right thing.
Mike Wilde for all his Scouser traits seems to be fully behind the way the club is going.
We are only a few points off the pay off positions, so we should all be patient.
As for this pathetic march next week - who really cares about the lunatic fringe?
I'll be inside The Kingsland with my thermos flask, and chocolate hobnobs watching the team warm up. I will cheer them on from under the tartan blanket whatever - they are just a bunch of kids doing their best and we need to get behind them.
My season ticket money is guaranteed Mr Lowe for next season - keep the faith in your Dutch experiment - personally I'm lovin' it!
We're The Kingsland over here!
Wes Tender
24-01-2009, 07:17 PM
I personally think Rupert Lowe is doing the right thing.
Mike Wilde for all his Scouser traits seems to be fully behind the way the club is going.
We are only a few points off the pay off positions, so we should all be patient.
As for this pathetic march next week - who really cares about the lunatic fringe?
I'll be inside The Kingsland with my thermos flask, and chocolate hobnobs watching the team warm up. I will cheer them on from under the tartan blanket whatever - they are just a bunch of kids doing their best and we need to get behind them.
My season ticket money is guaranteed Mr Lowe for next season - keep the faith in your Dutch experiment - personally I'm lovin' it!
We're The Kingsland over here!
Hehe. Who says satire is dead?
eurosaint
25-01-2009, 08:14 AM
I personally think Rupert Lowe is doing the right thing.
Mike Wilde for all his Scouser traits seems to be fully behind the way the club is going.
We are only a few points off the pay off positions, so we should all be patient.
As for this pathetic march next week - who really cares about the lunatic fringe?
I'll be inside The Kingsland with my thermos flask, and chocolate hobnobs watching the team warm up. I will cheer them on from under the tartan blanket whatever - they are just a bunch of kids doing their best and we need to get behind them.
My season ticket money is guaranteed Mr Lowe for next season - keep the faith in your Dutch experiment - personally I'm lovin' it!We're The Kingsland over here!
Yeah, there have been some great games down here this season, eh ?
pheonix
25-01-2009, 11:12 AM
I think that someone needs to write to Crouch as well, and plead with him to do something. I know that he would give up so much to do it, maybe a combination of letters to Wilde and Crouch to see if that would do any good. I was utterly appalled when I heard about Saturdays violence, and something needs to be done and soon.
Leon Knows he has to do something!
eelpie
25-01-2009, 05:22 PM
I personally think Rupert Lowe is doing the right thing.
Mike Wilde for all his Scouser traits seems to be fully behind the way the club is going.
We are only a few points off the pay off positions, so we should all be patient.
As for this pathetic march next week - who really cares about the lunatic fringe?
I'll be inside The Kingsland with my thermos flask, and chocolate hobnobs watching the team warm up. I will cheer them on from under the tartan blanket whatever - they are just a bunch of kids doing their best and we need to get behind them.
My season ticket money is guaranteed Mr Lowe for next season - keep the faith in your Dutch experiment - personally I'm lovin' it!
We're The Kingsland over here!
Is that why the Kingsland faithful leave the matches 15 minutes early?
Gingeletiss
25-01-2009, 06:07 PM
I personally think Rupert Lowe is doing the right thing.
Mike Wilde for all his Scouser traits seems to be fully behind the way the club is going.
We are only a few points off the pay off positions, so we should all be patient.
As for this pathetic march next week - who really cares about the lunatic fringe?
I'll be inside The Kingsland with my thermos flask, and chocolate hobnobs watching the team warm up. I will cheer them on from under the tartan blanket whatever - they are just a bunch of kids doing their best and we need to get behind them.
My season ticket money is guaranteed Mr Lowe for next season - keep the faith in your Dutch experiment - personally I'm lovin' it!
We're The Kingsland over here!
Should of gone to Specsavers..........
Channon's Sideburns
10-02-2009, 06:14 PM
Any reply yet?
I believe he's doing the company accounts therefore incommunicado....;)
trousers
10-02-2009, 07:31 PM
He's still wrtiting the programme notes for the Ujpest game
bridge too far
10-02-2009, 07:44 PM
Any reply yet?
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Weston Super Saint
10-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Any reply yet?
The letter went Royal Mail to Jersey.
Give them a chance to deliver it FFS :D
miserableoldgit
10-02-2009, 08:01 PM
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A play in two acts. Nothing happens - twice.:)
beatlesaint
10-02-2009, 08:04 PM
Any reply yet?
Nope....still hasnt got the decency to reply and i doubt very much he will.
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