Pompey Takeover Saga

**View From The Top** · 18-05-2013, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by hypochondriac

They are still going on that the bvi loan is 30 million, 3 from last year and 30 this year. Is that the case?

No. The loan is in the published accounts fro March.

**Colinjb** · 18-05-2013, 09:52 AM

To the bitter skates arguing that we didn't have any idea who our owner was and that we were about to implode....

Sha-lala - lala - lala - la!.....

To the genuine fans who are just pleased to have a club. Bon chance.

**FloridaMarlin** · 18-05-2013, 10:08 AM

At least Katharina Liebherr is real and not some fictitious sheikh made up to con the football authorities.

**ALWAYS_SFC** · 18-05-2013, 10:32 AM

But we are STILL jealous..right.................PMSL

**Gorgiesaint** · 18-05-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by ALWAYS_SFC

But we are STILL jealous..right.................PMSL

This is the nub of it, why would be jealous of the position of the their club? And I used 'their' deliberately as they are in this wonderful fan owned position. Given the announcement by Saints this morning between Nicola Cortese and Katharina Liebherr, It has given me cause to reflect on the relative positions of the fans of each club.

As a Saints fan, I'm pretty happy with the way things are going. Overall Cortese has my support - yes there have been concerns about certain issues such the BVI loan, the transfer policy and Adkins sacking (to name a few), but they tend to work themselves out over time. The BVI loan shows up eventually in the accounts, the change of manager seems to have worked okay despite me really wanting to see how far Adkins could have taken us. Transfer policy will always be one of those issues that divides fans anyway.

But if I had a major gripe, what could I do about it? The answer is apart from becoming a cybernet warrior, tear up my season ticket (if I had one -living in Edinburgh I don't anyway - so at least not attend any games for me!) and that's about as much as I can do. Will it have any affect? Absolutely none. Now the lot down the M27 will crow that's not the same for them as their a fans owned club, but would it be any different for them?

Let's face it, if I was a contributor to the pst funding (I'll avoid using the word shareholder as its not a true share) and I had a gripe about any of the same issues, i.e. I thought the chairman was doing a poor job, I thought the transfer policy was poor or I had worries about the funding what could I do? We've already seen the transparency of the trust in action in putting the bid together (or translucent as someone but it on here - a much more apt description, you know there's something there but you just can't see what it is), so they're no better as a fans owned club than our ownership.

So if I had an issue with any of the gripes - as an individual, I have little power. Cobbled together with the rest of the pst, what power do they actually have? Remember the people at the top are the pst leaders who are going to be reluctant to give up their positions, the chairman is their man. And let's face it, if 60% of the 'pst shareholding' don't like something, they'll only be roughly 30% of the overall shareholding so can still be ignored if you take into account the HNW's. So they are still a small voice with little power.

So what exactly does their fan ownership get them above any the fan of any other club? Other than ability to throw a grand into bottomless pit and an ability to call the scummahs jealous...

**Crab Lungs** · 18-05-2013, 12:23 PM

Does anyone else get really p1ssed off with their myths, as opposed to laughing at them? I'm sick of reading them. Nazi tank driver, nazi gold money, thinking they're biggest club in the south, that they didn't cheat, that they've been hard done by, that their away following (and home support) are really something special, that we're laden with massive, crippling debt... f()ck, I hate reading their rubbish, it's annoying. Worse still, if you so much as dare to challenge them then they spin out another myth (or better still, profanity-laden retort) that absolutely holds no truth other than whatever goes through their imbecilic, backward skulls.

They should have died. I can only hope the PDT gives us some more laughs.

**View From The Top** · 18-05-2013, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Crab Lungs

Does anyone else get really p1ssed off with their myths, as opposed to laughing at them? I'm sick of reading them. Nazi tank driver, nazi gold money, thinking they're biggest club in the south, that they didn't cheat, that they've been hard done by, that their away following (and home support) are really something special, that we're laden with massive, crippling debt... f()ck, I hate reading their rubbish, it's annoying. Worse still, if you so much as dare to challenge them then they spin out another myth (or better still, profanity-laden retort) that absolutely holds no truth other than whatever goes through their imbecilic, backward skulls.

They should have died. I can only hope the PDT gives us some more laughs.

Chill, it's funny as fuc.k.

**OldNick** · 18-05-2013, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by View From The Top

No. The loan is in the published accounts fro March.

Published accounts, it is no good showing them some of them, it is like showing them an electric light

**EastleighSoulBoy** · 18-05-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by trousers

**Golden Balls** · 18-05-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Crab Lungs

Does anyone else get really p1ssed off with their myths, as opposed to laughing at them? I'm sick of reading them. Nazi tank driver, nazi gold money, thinking they're biggest club in the south, that they didn't cheat, that they've been hard done by, that their away following (and home support) are really something special, that we're laden with massive, crippling debt... f()ck, I hate reading their rubbish, it's annoying. Worse still, if you so much as dare to challenge them then they spin out another myth (or better still, profanity-laden retort) that absolutely holds no truth other than whatever goes through their imbecilic, backward skulls.

They should have died. I can only hope the PDT gives us some more laughs.

Nah. I laugh at them and prove them wrong. So funny watching them back tracking to "yeah, well...4-1 twice mush"

Yeah, well...5-1 three times.

**70's Mike** · 18-05-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Crab Lungs

Does anyone else get really p1ssed off with their myths, as opposed to laughing at them? I'm sick of reading them. Nazi tank driver, nazi gold money, thinking they're biggest club in the south, that they didn't cheat, that they've been hard done by, that their away following (and home support) are really something special, that we're laden with massive, crippling debt... f()ck, I hate reading their rubbish, it's annoying. Worse still, if you so much as dare to challenge them then they spin out another myth (or better still, profanity-laden retort) that absolutely holds no truth other than whatever goes through their imbecilic, backward skulls.

They should have died. I can only hope the PDT gives us some more laughs.

do not worry Lungs it will, it is in their inbred nature to be c*nts. they have never done anything without bending the rules. My wifes family are all skates and the best way to wind them up is not to talk about football, just give them a silly grin and when they ask about Saints I just say things like "i would rather talk about tax evasion or charity fiddling or facilities at training grounds etc"
Living here in border country sightings of skate blue shirts is getting a rare sight by the day, with whole squads at the local youth football club being saints not a skate in sight

**Pedro** · 18-05-2013, 06:25 PM

Did anything ever get published from the court case as (I think) the judge said it would very soon. How is their level of transparency going, is everything now in place, all the appointments made and all go for next season.

I've read so much on here that I have forgotten what the latest is. They really are insignificant but I'm sure, unless they get a great start, yet another disaster looms.

**Saint in Paradise** · 18-05-2013, 10:20 PM

Well said Gorgiesaint I agree with you wholeheartedly. However as I said earlier I am very
pleased that NC and the Liebherrs have reached an agreement.

**sussexsaint** · 18-05-2013, 10:47 PM

Not quite up to the bucket rattling post CL but all good points well made. The 'best atmosphere in world football' really really ****es me off

**tony13579** · 19-05-2013, 05:42 AM

It would be fun to request a slot at the next Portsmouth city council meeting and ask how secure the loan was after PFC trust were now refusing debit cards after their main bank account is unusable.
Who's account are the cheques being paid into?......
What happens to the cash?

**Saint_John** · 19-05-2013, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Pedro

Did anything ever get published from the court case as (I think) the judge said it would very soon. How is their level of transparency going, is everything now in place, all the appointments made and all go for next season.

I've read so much on here that I have forgotten what the latest is. They really are insignificant but I'm sure, unless they get a great start, yet another disaster looms.

Nothing has been published on Bailii, which is the only public source I know. (I check every day).
http://www.bailii.org/recent-decisio.../cases/EWHC/Ch

From what i remember it was a reporter that said it would be published, not necessarily the Judge.
And of course there were other parties involved that were not in court that might object to the information becoming public i.e. Football League re conditions for the Share or the PFA re players contracts etc.

**so18 saint** · 19-05-2013, 08:42 AM

Did I read somewhere that roughly 500 pledges that were made have not yet stumped up the money ?

**Stepgar** · 19-05-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Pedro

Did anything ever get published from the court case as (I think) the judge said it would very soon. How is their level of transparency going, is everything now in place, all the appointments made and all go for next season.

I've read so much on here that I have forgotten what the latest is. They really are insignificant but I'm sure, unless they get a great start, yet another disaster looms.

They will do ok I thinks er the season. Promotion by any form will be a massive achievement. They are buying basically a whole tea and as we know teams can take a while to gel. Best they should hope for is a consolidation season.

**mcjwills** · 19-05-2013, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Stepgar

They will do ok I thinks er the season. Promotion by any form will be a massive achievement. They are buying basically a whole tea and as we know teams can take a while to gel. Best they should hope for is a consolidation season.

A whole team of freebies and loaners as they are not allowed to purchase a player until the footballing debts are paid off.

**rallyboy** · 19-05-2013, 09:51 AM

No big transfers pending but with decent crowds for League Two and the opportunity to borrow the PP money they can push the boat out a bit on wages.
Not that they would, with creditors still waiting.
After all they are sticklers for clearing debt before going on mad spending sprees.

I'm still not convinced that the eagle eye of the Football League overseeing their every move will be any more effective than it was last time, so I fully expect to see a promotion push fuelled by the odd unusual signing.

But I'm more interested in our game today that is worth a few quid and a lot of pride - but compared with the last two years, it has absolutely zero riding on it, which suits me fine.

But it must be a bitter blow for all those fans of Redknapp, and the many people to the east who assured us we would be finishing with the lowest points total ever, and even this week informed everyone that we were a club in crisis and massive debt, with no one at the helm, and no future.

Mind the gap.

**chocco boxo** · 19-05-2013, 05:43 PM

Yeovil two leagues above them. #notrivalsanymore

**Matthew Le God** · 19-05-2013, 07:34 PM

Southampton earnt more in prize money today than the Pompey fans trust raised to buy the club...

**gaz** · 19-05-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by sussexsaint

The 'best atmosphere in world football' really really ****es me off

A 2/3rds empty stadium does have good acoustics.

**Jimmy_D** · Yesterday, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by gaz

A 2/3rds empty stadium does have good acoustics.

It's the bare plastic seats that really reflect the sound well.

**dubai_phil** · Yesterday, 03:01 AM

Just want to say.
To those at SMS yesterday.
You did the Club PROUD with your ovation for Michael Owen.
Obviously the TV picked it up as did EVERY other fan in the bar watching other games.

THAT is how the Best Fans in the South of England show their appreciation for a Footballing Legend, not some tinpot round of applause for some random French bloke from North London

**holepuncture** · Yesterday, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by dubai_phil

Just want to say.
To those at SMS yesterday.
You did the Club PROUD with your ovation for Michael Owen.
Obviously the TV picked it up as did EVERY other fan in the bar watching other games.

THAT is how the Best Fans in the South of England show their appreciation for a Footballing Legend, not some tinpot round of applause for some random French bloke from North London

I was thinking the same at the time, though in the main us Saints are a pretty respectful and dignified supporter base.

Along with the outstanding OWTS for the players lap of appreciation, it was a show of class...

NC against their cockney
Liebherr against robinson/'hnw'/pcc/Chinny/pdt
Poch against whitts
SMS against fp
Hot water against fatty pipes
Sammy Saint against tcwtb
SFC Players against mercenaries
Saints fans against skates

Worlds apart.

**ZepSaint** · Yesterday, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Matthew Le God

Southampton earnt more in prize money today than the Pompey fans trust raised to buy the club...

Now that stat I like !

**Matthew Le God** · Yesterday, 09:58 AM

A Pompey fan gloating...

Originally Posted by Benjani'sBootCleaner

The most important result of the season.

Do they even have the internet in Morecambe?

A Saints fan's responce...

**Scummer** · Yesterday, 10:04 AM

I heard from a Pompey director that one of their high net worth investors is actually a Liverpool fan who just loves what Pompey are doing.

I forgot to ask if his initials were MW......

**Torres** · Yesterday, 11:00 AM

I'm not going to get a hard-on about the number of twitter followers we have, but do they really only have 29000? For such a massive club I'm amazed that figure is so low. I'd have thought that more of the 250,000 fans from Southsea Common would be on Twitter.

**andysstuff** · Yesterday, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Torres

I'm not going to get a hard-on about the number of twitter followers we have, but do they really only have 29000? For such a massive club I'm amazed that figure is so low. I'd have thought that more of the 250,000 fans from Southsea Common would be on Twitter.

Very hard to access the interweb with webbed fingers apparently.

**rallyboy** · Yesterday, 12:05 PM

and fatty broadband.

**100%Red&White** · Yesterday, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Torres

I'm not going to get a hard-on about the number of twitter followers we have, but do they really only have 29000? For such a massive club I'm amazed that figure is so low. I'd have thought that more of the 250,000 fans from Southsea Common would be on Twitter.

Ahem, that rose to nearer 300,000 not so long ago.

Anyway, it's quality, not quantity, dontcha know?

**Pugwash** · Yesterday, 01:04 PM

So we only need about 15% of our followers to also sign up to AFC Wimbledon then?

**trousers** · Yesterday, 02:01 PM

Neil Allen ‏@pn_neil_allen
Signing number 11 this summer! S****horpe left-winger Andy Barcham has joined #Pompey on a free transfer. More at http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/

**OldNick** · Yesterday, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by trousers

Neil Allen ‏@pn_neil_allen
Signing number 11 this summer! S****horpe left-winger Andy Barcham has joined #Pompey on a free transfer. More at http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/

his third share of a share in PST is going a long way. i bet he is such a proud lad. no doubt he dines out on stories of his boardroom experiences on the back of a part shareholding. You can imagine 'Yes, I have a part shareholding in Portsmouth Football Club'

**Minsk** · Yesterday, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by trousers

Neil Allen ‏@pn_neil_allen
Signing number 11 this summer! S****horpe left-winger Andy Barcham has joined #Pompey on a free transfer. More at http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/

1 goal in 38 appearances last season, and that was his first match of the season in a cup game against Derby that finished 5-5. Oh, and his total transfer fees amass to an amazing nothing throughout his career. Every move has been a free transfer. A major coup by the Skates to get him in!