Pardew vs WGS

[Legod Third Coming]

Saints 3 Ipswich 3
Fulham 2 Saints 1
Saints 1 Blackburn 2
Derby 1 Saints 0
Saints 1 Charlton 0
Everton 2 Saints 0
Leicester 0 Saints 4
Saints 2 Sunderland 0
United 6 Saints 1
Saints 0 Leeds 1

Strachan's first ten games in charge.

What do you see?

We managed to win three games and accrue 10 points.

Something else. We couldn't beat any decent teams. We beat three teams, Leicester would go on to be relegated (finish bottom on 28 points), Sunderland who finished 4th bottom and Charlton who finished 6th bottom and lost at home to Leeds (finished 5th) and Blackburn (finished 10th).

Does that help any of those reaching for the noose?

Looks to me a lot like our start this season...

Oh and on Saturday Pardew could have more points from his first ten games than Strachan, well feck me

[St Will]

Uh oh, be careful!!

[Glasgow_Saint]

Premiership vs L1. Money spent by AP is comparable to GS spending 30 million in the prem.

[alpine_saint]

You can prove anything with statistics, LgTC......

[Legod Third Coming]

Premiership vs L1. Money spent by AP is comparable to GS spending 30 million in the prem.

Not by the standards of the Premiership at the time. Strachan spent a club record 4m on Delap didn't he??

[Genk]

Proves that managers are allowed time and don't need sacking after a small number of games. Clubs that sack managers regularly will fail.

[St Will]

LGTC.....you'll never be able to prove the negative bastards wrong....no matter how right you are!!!

[Rory]

Not by the standards of the Premiership at the time. Strachan spent a club record 4m on Delap didn't he??

No, that was Stuart Gray.

[Legod Third Coming]

When you actually look through results for that season apart from the odd highlight we were really poor.

We finished on 45 points (in 11th granted). We won 12 fecking games...

But by golly what a season in 2003... the year later.

[Legod Third Coming]

No, that was Stuart Gray.

Seriously???

[St Will]

When you actually look through results for that season apart from the odd highlight we were really poor.

We finished on 45 points (in 11th granted). We won 12 fecking games...

But by golly what a season in 2003... the year later.

Exactly - I'm really excited about next season. I think we could really dominate.

[RedAndWhite91]

Proves that managers are allowed time and don't need sacking after a small number of games. Clubs that sack managers regularly will fail.

Clubs that sack managers regularly go from the Premiership to League One in the space of about 6 years.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Not by the standards of the Premiership at the time. Strachan spent a club record 4m on Delap didn't he??

before his 1st 10 games?

In WGS 1st 10 games we played United a strong leeds side, everton and Fulham.

In APs 1st 10 games we have played Brentford, stockport, carlisle and Yeovil!

[St Will]

before his 1st 10 games?

In WGS 1st 10 games we played United a strong leeds side, everton and Fulham.

In APs 1st 10 games we have played Brentford, stockport, carlisle and Yeovil!

Yes and with WGS we had premiership players. With AP we have league 1 players.

[Glasgow_Saint]

LGTC.....you'll never be able to prove the negative bastards wrong....no matter how right you are!!!

Do you honestly think he is right? are you for real?

[Legod Third Coming]

before his 1st 10 games?

In WGS 1st 10 games we played United a strong leeds side, everton and Fulham.

In APs 1st 10 games we have played Brentford, stockport, carlisle and Yeovil!

These teams are comparable by standard.

The point is, it was after one year that we started winning under Strachan and had a great season, not nine games. You understand that do you??

[Glasgow_Saint]

Yes and with WGS we had premiership players. With AP we have league 1 players.

L2 players if he carries on his 'magic'

[St Will]

Do you honestly think he is right? are you for real?

Are you for real that you think just cuz we've played Brentford, Stockport et al, that we should be doing better than Strachan's record?! WE'RE NOT A PREMIERSHIP TEAM ANYMORE.

[Glasgow_Saint]

These teams are comparable by standard.

The point is, it was after one year that we started winning under Strachan and had a great season, not nine games. You understand that do you??

didnt we finish top 12 in his 1st season?

[John B]

Clubs that sack managers regularly go from the Premiership to League One in the space of about 6 years.

Are you suggesting that we kept JP Gray or Wigley because I think they were the ones sacked

Hoddle Strachan Redknapp Burley left for Pastures new

Sturrock did not fancy the job and Pearson was too costly possibly

Mind you I agree that stability is a good thing but not that common theses days except at the top clubs

[St Will]

L2 players if he carries on his 'magic'

You've got Rangers and Celtic on your doorstep.....support them if you want a team that wins all the time!

[hectors house]

You can prove anything with statistics, LgTC......

Indeed you can - and tell that to those who keep saying "1 win in 10 is not good enough" without considering the bigger picture.

[Glasgow_Saint]

[QUOTE=St Will;462442]Are you for real that you think just cuz we've played Brentford, Stockport et al, that we should be doing better than Strachan's record?! WE'RE NOT A PREMIERSHIP TEAM ANYMORE.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that! Nobody is slating AP in comparison to GS - that is dumb!

[alpine_saint]

You've got Rangers and Celtic on your doorstep.....support them if you want a team that wins all the time!

Why dont you give it a rest ?

[Glasgow_Saint]

You've got Rangers and Celtic on your doorstep.....support them if you want a team that wins all the time!

golden

[St Will]

[QUOTE=Glasgow_Saint;462449]

Are you for real that you think just cuz we've played Brentford, Stockport et al, that we should be doing better than Strachan's record?! WE'RE NOT A PREMIERSHIP TEAM ANYMORE.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that! Nobody is slating AP in comparison to GS - that is dumb!

Well you are, because you're saying that LTGC's statistics aren't valid

[alpine_saint]

Indeed you can - and tell that to those who keep saying "1 win in 10 is not good enough" without considering the bigger picture.

And which picture is that then ?

[Glasgow_Saint]

Why dont you give it a rest ?

The guy is on a wind up - doesnt normally get much attention so is now enjoying his 5 minutes in the spot light.

[St Will]

Why dont you give it a rest ?

Who asked you?

You can go support Rapid Vienna for all I care too - Saints are better off without ya, you contribute nothing to the football club or to this forum.

[Glasgow_Saint]

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[Legod Third Coming]

didnt we finish top 12 in his 1st season?

We finished 11th. The previous season 15th.

Sadly I can't tell you where we were after 10 games under WGS.

I can tell you he achieved 45 points. The previous season we had 44.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Good post, anyone who believes that sacking Alan Pardew is the answer is ******* insane, If it is your view that Pards should be sacked, you must have been asleep for the past 10 or so years HELLO? WAKEY WAKEY!! IT - DOES - NOT - HELP - THE -SITUATION. This club has been through the wringer, and now the to55ers from the old regime have all moved on, we should learn from their ineptitude, and allow the new regime to manage us the right way, taking as much time as is necessary. What does 5 year plan mean to you fookwits?? To me it means exactly that, FIVE YEARS. Alan Pardew will get it right, but it wont be easy for him with the 'I want it now for nothing' culture.

FFS

Rant over.

[Legod Third Coming]

Are you suggesting that we kept JP Gray or Wigley because I think they were the ones sacked

Hoddle Strachan Redknapp Burley left for Pastures new

Sturrock did not fancy the job and Pearson was too costly possibly

Mind you I agree that stability is a good thing but not that common theses days except at the top clubs

Stability is common where the manager succeeds.

The challenge is to allow the manager the time to determine whether he will or will not succeed.

I think if you anlyse this League, you will find that the top three managers are all in their second season. Parkinson has been at Charlton for what 2/3 season including as assistant to Pardew. Grayson's first games in charge of Leeds helped them miss promotion last season....

[St Will]

Good post, anyone who believes that sacking Alan Pardew is the answer is ******* insane, If it is your view that Pards should be sacked, you must have been asleep for the past 10 or so years HELLO? WAKEY WAKEY!! IT - DOES - NOT - HELP - THE -SITUATION. This club has been through the wringer, and now the to55ers from the old regime have all moved on, we should learn from their ineptitude, and allow the new regime to manage us the right way, taking as much time as is necessary. What does 5 year plan mean to you fookwits?? To me it means exactly that, FIVE YEARS. Alan Pardew will get it right, but it wont be easy for him with the 'I want it now for nothing' culture.

FFS

Rant over.

Wahayy!! Love it. You're going to receive the backlash, but you're absolutely right.

[John B]

Good post, anyone who believes that sacking Alan Pardew is the answer is ******* insane, If it is your view that Pards should be sacked, you must have been asleep for the past 10 or so years HELLO? WAKEY WAKEY!! IT - DOES - NOT - HELP - THE -SITUATION. This club has been through the wringer, and now the to55ers from the old regime have all moved on, we should learn from their ineptitude, and allow the new regime to manage us the right way, taking as much time as is necessary. What does 5 year plan mean to you fookwits?? To me it means exactly that, FIVE YEARS. Alan Pardew will get it right, but it wont be easy for him with the 'I want it now for nothing' culture.

FFS

Rant over.

So why was Pardew sacked at Charlton I wonder

Possibly was not that good

[St Will]

So why was Pardew sacked at Charlton I wonder

Possibly was not that good

Did them a lot of good didn't it....they got relegated.

[alpine_saint]

Good post, anyone who believes that sacking Alan Pardew is the answer is ******* insane, If it is your view that Pards should be sacked, you must have been asleep for the past 10 or so years HELLO? WAKEY WAKEY!! IT - DOES - NOT - HELP - THE -SITUATION. This club has been through the wringer, and now the to55ers from the old regime have all moved on, we should learn from their ineptitude, and allow the new regime to manage us the right way, taking as much time as is necessary. What does 5 year plan mean to you fookwits?? To me it means exactly that, FIVE YEARS. Alan Pardew will get it right, but it wont be easy for him with the 'I want it now for nothing' culture.

FFS

Rant over.

You tell me how the results from the last 10 matches fit the "plan". I am disappointed in you, WA2. After the way we stood side-by-side a couple of years back, its a pity you have resorted to abusing those challenging the "progress" we are making.

Was it really only all about Lowe for you ?

[John B]

Did them a lot of good didn't it....they got relegated.

Yes but where are they today after finishing below us last season.

[hectors house]

You can prove anything with statistics, LgTC......

And which picture is that then ?

I'm sure you know. Administration, new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, lost some of our best players from last year (and that from a team that was not very good to start with) and a short pre-season.

[St Will]

Yes but where are they today after finishing below us last season.

And how many of their best players did they manage to keep? Did they go into admin and start on minus 10? Nope, I don't think so. Selective memory to try to prove yourself right.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Did them a lot of good didn't it....they got relegated.

Funny how you've changed so much in a few months - I recall many posts criticizing JP while he was manager and many more criticizing McGoaldrick while he was a player............

You're a wind up!

[alpine_saint]

I'm sure you know. Administration, new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, lost some of our best players from last year (and that from a team that was not very good to start with) and a short pre-season.

Yes, and all of those things have only ever happened to SFC, havent they ???

[St Will]

You tell me how the results from the last 10 matches fit the "plan". I am disappointed in you, WA2. After the way we stood side-by-side a couple of years back, its a pity you have resorted to abusing those challenging the "progress" we are making.

Was it really only all about Lowe for you ?

You're being left behind. Whereas some people have realised we're turning the corner and are starting to be more confident, you're still playing Mr Negative.....what are you going to do?!

[chrisobee]

didnt we finish top 12 in his 1st season?

Blimey, did he last the whole season, staggering.

[alpine_saint]

You're being left behind. Whereas some people have realised we're turning the corner and are starting to be more confident, you're still playing Mr Negative.....what are you going to do?!

I am going to continue to call it as I see it.

[Glasgow_Saint]

I'm sure you know. Administration, new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, lost some of our best players from last year (and that from a team that was not very good to start with) and a short pre-season.

all happened to Leeds a few years back - didnt they then win 12 games from 13?

[St Will]

Funny how you've changed so much in a few months - I recall many posts criticizing JP while he was manager and many more criticizing McGoaldrick while he was a player............

You're a wind up!

Of course....JP didn't have a clue, and McGoldrick was awful! Pardew is new to the club and is a hell of a lot more qualified for the job!

[Glasgow_Saint]

Of course....JP didn't have a clue, and McGoldrick was awful! Pardew is new to the club and is a hell of a lot more qualified for the job!

Thanks for clearing that up - in summary we can critisise but only when you think its ok?

[ooohTerryHurlock]

Wahayy!! Love it. You're going to receive the backlash, but you're absolutely right.

You cannot build a team in ten games - we were pretty much starting from scratch - we are playing quite well and just need a bit more cutting edge - it will come given time....

only one thing, if it is a five year plan why has AP signed a three year contract??? can't work that one out?

[Legod Third Coming]

You cannot build a team in ten games - we were pretty much starting from scratch - we are playing quite well and just need a bit more cutting edge - it will come given time....

only one thing, if it is a five year plan why has AP signed a three year contract??? can't work that one out?

Because they know Mourinho is needed to win the Premiership.

Simples.