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    Default Saints 2009/10 would comfortably beat Saints 2008/09

    Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat

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    i'd agree, and KD is still on top of his game.

    Wotte vs Pardew, AP is just miles better too.

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    no brainer

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    No argument from me , the current team would beat last years 9 times out of 10 in all probability . Having a wealthy owner has much to recommend it .

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    add to that a winning mentality.

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    Can someone on here create this match on one of the football software games packages?

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    who gets home advantage?

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    -------- Davis
    James Perry Size Skacel
    ------- Gillett
    Schneiderlin - Surman
    ------- Lallana
    ----- McG - Euell

    vs

    Davis
    Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
    ------ Hammond - James
    Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
    ---------- Lambert

    Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Porter View Post
    -------- Davis
    James Perry Size Skacel
    ------- Gillett
    Schneiderlin - Surman
    ------- Lallana
    ----- McG - Euell

    vs

    Davis
    Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
    ------ Hammond - James
    Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
    ---------- Lambert

    Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.
    Errrr Morgan in for James

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    Was thinking about, with everyone fit i'd rather have James in there just for his corners. Maybe stick Schneiderlin in for Mellis and shift Lallana out wide and play the same system as we did on Friday.

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    Interesting thread

    What about comparing current side v the Burley play off side and 1st year championship team

    Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyinthesky View Post

    Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently
    Absolutely agree.

    Im not getting too carried away just yet. I remember these threads poped up when we went on a 5 match winning streak in our playoff season ''We are better than our relegated premiership side..'' etc.

    Still a long way to go before this lot can be compared to any past team!

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    It needs pardew to almost bring in a new team

    pardew is clearly bette than wotte but it also shows how hard wotte had it.

    I doubt even pardew would have kept last seasons team up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Porter View Post
    -------- Davis
    James Perry Size Skacel
    ------- Gillett
    Schneiderlin - Surman
    ------- Lallana
    ----- McG - Euell

    vs

    Davis
    Murty - Jaidi - Trottman - Harding
    ------ Hammond - James
    Waigo ---- Lallana ----- Mellis
    ---------- Lambert

    Surman is the only player who'd get into the new side IMO.
    I'd have Skacel in for Mellis, but that's just my opinion. Otherwise I'd agree. EVERYTHING about this team and even this club is miles better than last season.

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    Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?
    Based on what three good games this season?

    I don't think there's much in it between the two, James being able to take a semi decent set piece swings it for me.

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    those who quote this seasons side seem to have forgotten that we have won the last 2 with Wotton in the side.
    AP was saying on Sky this morning you cannot just play "total" football in this division

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyinthesky View Post
    Interesting thread

    What about comparing current side v the Burley play off side and 1st year championship team

    Have to say it is a good feeling at the moment but we have to be careful not to big up the current side too much until it starts performing consistently
    The Burley side was a lot better, maybe next season with a few more players we might be at a similar level but not yet.

    Davis
    Wright - Baird - Lundekvam - Bale
    Surman - Guthrie - Pele - Skacel
    Jones - Rasiak

    That was a decent team. From our current squad Waigo and Murty would walk into the side not sure who else maybe Lallana, Hammond and Jaidi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    Morgan is a much better player than James. Are you blind?
    but is the TEAM better with him in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70's Mike View Post
    but is the TEAM better with him in it
    Agreed. You need to have Wotton or James in front of the defence. Hammond and Morgan are too similar and both want to play further up the pitch leaving too big a gap between the defence and midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70's Mike View Post
    but is the TEAM better with him in it
    Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Porter View Post
    The Burley side was a lot better, maybe next season with a few more players we might be at a similar level but not yet.

    Davis
    Wright - Baird - Lundekvam - Bale
    Surman - Guthrie - Pele - Skacel
    Jones - Rasiak

    That was a decent team. From our current squad Waigo and Murty would walk into the side not sure who else maybe Lallana, Hammond and Jaidi.
    Ahem, I see you mean the Burley/SNODIN side, rather than the appalling team from Burley's last season. Current team would beat the Burley "lardy boys" side from the following season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedelldays View Post
    Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo
    He didn't play holding midfield against Southend. I'd say he was as good as anyone on the night playing as our furthest forward central midfielder.

    He's not cut out to play holding midfield yet, maybe with a bit of experience but not yet.

    Wether he's in the team or not it's a nice change to actually have options and decent players on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectisSaint View Post
    Ahem, I see you mean the Burley/SNODIN side, rather than the appalling team from Burley's last season. Current team would beat the Burley "lardy boys" side from the following season.
    I've managed to blank that season out, not sure I could even remember a full XI. That was a shocking season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thedelldays View Post
    Morgan was fantastic against rovers and apparently very good against Southend. He is in great form at the mo
    we lost to rovers but beat Southend with Wotten in the side
    my point is that to get out of this division we need the right TEAM structure NOT just the best players

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70's Mike View Post
    we lost to rovers but beat Southend with Wotten in the side
    my point is that to get out of this division we need the right TEAM structure NOT just the best players
    We lost to rovers as we had no left hand side. Hammond and Morgan were both fantastic that night. We were crap down the wings

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaz View Post
    i'd agree, and KD is still on top of his game.

    Wotte vs Pardew, AP is just miles better too.
    I agree too - Alan Pardew hasn't put a foot wrong yet for me - He comes across as very honest in his media appearances too!

    This is so much better than recent years - In spite of being in Lge 1

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    Jardi instead of Perry and we would have stayed up last year.

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    Would you have any of these players in the team now to replace existing players? If so, who?

    Surman
    McGoldrick
    Skacel
    BWP
    Euell
    Dyer
    Rasiak
    JPS
    Stern John

    I certainly wouldn't have any of those strikers instead of Lambert bearing in mind age, attitude and scoring rate this league. Skacel likewise, either at LB or LW. Surman is a tricky one, because I think he's a quality player, but Lallana is better in attack and Hammond/Schneiderlin looks a good partnership in front of DM. I'd have Papa over Dyer, McGoldrick or Euell any day too, so I think we are looking stronger.

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    we are still bottom

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    Surman would be my only choice.....Heart , soul and a lot of talent....Only if we could get him for a loan or small fee in January......The rest can go to Wycombe with Rupes and his Dutch boyzz Jan and Mark.

    COYRs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat
    Also, this year's Schneiderlin would definitely outplay last year's Schneiderlin. A vast improvement imo.

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    I wish we still had Jimmy Belmadi. He would take the **** out of players in this league and would work well in our current system.

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    Djamel Belmadi was a decent player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSt Peter Saint View Post
    Would you have any of these players in the team now to replace existing players? If so, who?

    Surman
    McGoldrick
    Skacel
    BWP
    Euell
    Dyer
    Rasiak
    JPS
    Stern John

    I certainly wouldn't have any of those strikers instead of Lambert bearing in mind age, attitude and scoring rate this league. Skacel likewise, either at LB or LW. Surman is a tricky one, because I think he's a quality player, but Lallana is better in attack and Hammond/Schneiderlin looks a good partnership in front of DM. I'd have Papa over Dyer, McGoldrick or Euell any day too, so I think we are looking stronger.
    If it was just based on ability i'd take Skacel and Mcgoldrick back but neither of those really wanted to be here so we're better off with inferior players who want to play for us.

    Shame we lost Euell as I think he could be usefull cover this season same with JPS, good player but not as good as Trottman or Jaidi imo.

    Surman I'd take back in an instant, a front three of Lallana, Paga and Surman would be brilliant.

    Glad to see BWP, Rasiak, Dyer gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O_RLY View Post
    Djamel Belmadi was a decent player.
    When he was fit.

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    Does Skacel have a team yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints foreva View Post
    Does Skacel have a team yet?
    Debrecen.

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    LOL .... the team from 73/74 that got relegated from Div 1 would thrash last years pansies ... even if the game was played tomorrow with the oldies pushing their zimmer frames around

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Can picture it- Lambert bullying Lancashire and Perry; Waigo scaring the living daylights out of Rudi; Gillett can't get in the side;Jaidi and Trottman outmuscling the battering-ram Euell. The sheer work-ethic and willingness of Harding giving no space to the likes of DMG; perhaps slightly vulnerable to the pace of BWP but unlikely to stay onside; 2009/10 Lallana looking pound for pound better than 2008/09 Lallana; midfield a slightly more contested area, though no reason why Hammond wouldn't give a Surman a run for his money. And if it came to chasing goal, the likes of Connolly on the bench compared to a loaned out/depleted strikeforce and young great hopes like Peckart. Of course, we would still have Kelv to beat
    Which side would bagsy Kelvin Davis and Adam Lallana ?

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    I reckon even giving last year's team Lala and KD, our team now would beat last year's.

    Davis
    James JPS Perry Skacel
    Gillet Euell
    Lallana McGoldrick BWP
    Rasiak

    vs
    Bart (weaker I know, but have to give them a chance)
    Murty Jaidi Trotman Harding
    Wotton
    Hammond Schneiderlin
    Papa Mellis
    Lambert

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