Do UFOs exist?

[Gingeletiss]

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Personally, I am a believer.

[PhilippineSaint]

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Personally, I am a believer.

Of course UFO's Exist


They just do not have to be of alien origin though.


That plane I just saw I could not identify it that makes it a UFO.

[JPTCount]

wasn't there a report done by the MoD a cpl years ago, said that most UFO sightings a reported by a drunk near an airfield.

[pap]

I'd love to see an alien spacecraft land*. Would pretty much poke a finger in the eye of any religion with a creation myth.

"And lo, on the eighth day, God made a bunch of galaxies, planets and aliens - which he didn't bother to write down".

(* although I might poo myself a bit)

[Hatch]

of course they do.

[Verbal]

http://ufos.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Personally, I am a believer.

Wise words from the great Carl Sagan:

"I am often asked, 'Do you believe in UFOs?' I'm always struck by how the question is phrased, the suggestion that this is a matter of belief and not evidence. I'm almost never asked, 'How good is the evidence that UFOs are alien spaceships?'."

[Manuel]

I'd be surprised if there wasn't life of some sort on other planets in the universe. Whether it has the intelligence or inclination to visit us in shiny spacecraft is another matter. I doubt it to be honest. It does seem a little far fetched though that of all the huge amount of planets and universe, that our little planet is the only one able to sustain intelligent life. Must be more about somewhere.

[mack rill]

thy exist alright, Just haven't found us yet, If thy had then thy would of torn us another ring by now

[buctootim]

thy exist alright, Just haven't found us yet, If thy had then thy would of torn us another ring by now

Is that it? The pinnacle of a billion years of evolution leading to the ability to fly hundreds of light years to another civilisation is so that you can rip them a new one? (and maybe have some lager on the way)

[Manuel]

It is for exactly this reason I keep a baseball bat under my bed.

[pap]

Is that it? The pinnacle of a billion years of evolution leading to the ability to fly hundreds of light years to another civilisation is so that you can rip them a new one? (and maybe have some lager on the way)

I take it you haven't seen the stunningly accurate and utterly believable story of Independence Day?

That's pretty much exactly what they do (sans the lager).

[Verbal]

"How would it be if we discovered that aliens only stopped by earth to let their kids take a leak?"

Jay Leno.

[pap]

"How would it be if we discovered that aliens only stopped by earth to let their kids take a leak?"

Jay Leno.

Bill Hicks on Jay Leno. He also had a lot to say on UFOs (even did a UFO tour, as I recall).

[Gingeletiss]

There is a belief, that Aliens were the missing link, and crashed landed on our planet, hence the Adam and Eve story in the bible!

[Saint Mikey]

I'd love to see an alien spacecraft land*. Would pretty much poke a finger in the eye of any religion with a creation myth.

"And lo, on the eighth day, God made a bunch of galaxies, planets and aliens - which he didn't bother to write down".

(* although I might poo myself a bit)

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. It wouldn't matter about the 'poke in the eye for Creationism'. These people believe what they want to believe. Darwin's theory, the existence of dinosaurs and translating of the Rosetta Stone - pretty much stamped on the head of Creatonism and all around the same(ish) time. Religion should have completely collapsed - yet, millions of nutjobs still persist in believing that tripe...

[mack rill]

Is that it? The pinnacle of a billion years of evolution leading to the ability to fly hundreds of light years to another civilisation is so that you can rip them a new one? (and maybe have some lager on the way)

Well yer! what ells is there to do on a satdee nite if your race becomes king of billion year bag of marbles.

[Lighthouse]

I've been abducted and had several probes inserted about my person. Wasn't bad actually.

[PhilippineSaint]

I'd be surprised if there wasn't life of some sort on other planets in the universe. Whether it has the intelligence or inclination to visit us in shiny spacecraft is another matter. I doubt it to be honest. It does seem a little far fetched though that of all the huge amount of planets and universe, that our little planet is the only one able to sustain intelligent life. Must be more about somewhere.

It is debatable whether you can class what is abroad our planet as intelligent life

[thefunkygibbons]

Whilst I will accept that there is life on other planets out there

The chance that is has visited earth is impossible. Space is simply too big

[dubai_phil]

Intelligent life on another planet?

Don't be silly, the PTS has proven beyond doubt that Intelligent life doesn't even exist some 20 miles to the East of Southampton.

[derry]

After a 36 year career as a pilot I never saw anything that remotely resembled a UFO. More importantly apart from one or two reports in the media neither did any other pilot. Afraid I'm a sceptic.

[dubai_phil]

After a 36 year career as a pilot I never saw anything that remotely resembled a UFO. More importantly apart from one or two reports in the media neither did any other pilot. Afraid I'm a sceptic.

Pilots? pah they'd never see a thing, they just sleep all day until the machines wake them up to press a button or a hostie wakes them up with a nice bj.

[derry]

Pilots? pah they'd never see a thing, they just sleep all day until the machines wake them up to press a button or a hostie wakes them up with a nice bj.

Tea every 20 mins was the best it ever got. Stuffing your own hired help didn't work for me. Lots of laughs, husbands/wives/girl and boyfriends and bi sexual stewards caused some real humdingers.

[pap]

After a 36 year career as a pilot I never saw anything that remotely resembled a UFO. More importantly apart from one or two reports in the media neither did any other pilot. Afraid I'm a sceptic.

Interestingly (and I'm not sure how much stock you'd hold in this), the Belgians had a real spate of UFO incidents in the early nineties.

They even went to officially confirm them (but not confirm that they were aliens )

[notnowcato]

I'd love to see an alien spacecraft land*. Would pretty much poke a finger in the eye of any religion with a creation myth.

"And lo, on the eighth day, God made a bunch of galaxies, planets and aliens - which he didn't bother to write down".

(* although I might poo myself a bit)

He did create all those things, it's just the Daily Echo equivalent of the time failed to report it. Sloppy journalism.

Odd that you would take great reward in being "right" in the circumstances..

[notnowcato]

After a 36 year career as a pilot I never saw anything that remotely resembled a UFO. More importantly apart from one or two reports in the media neither did any other pilot. Afraid I'm a sceptic.

You didn't see it, nor did anyone else see it... so it can't be there? You sure?

[pap]

He did create all those things, it's just the Daily Echo equivalent of the time failed to report it. Sloppy journalism.

Odd that you would take great reward in being "right" in the circumstances..

Sweet. I didn't realise I'd be getting paid too.

[SuperMikey]

Bill Hicks on Jay Leno. He also had a lot to say on UFOs (even did a UFO tour, as I recall).

Called the UFO tour because he was popping up in Southern towns in front of drunken hillbillies

Personally i'll believe it when I see it with UFOs. I believe we're not alone in the universe though.

[derry]

Interestingly (and I'm not sure how much stock you'd hold in this), the Belgians had a real spate of UFO incidents in the early nineties.

They even went to officially confirm them (but not confirm that they were aliens )

I would accept proof but there isn't any. A lot of these reports are classified experimental aircraft a la dreamland. Others interpretation of natural phenomena. I once thought I saw something flying back across the Atlantic at night very close to the tops of clouds at Mach .80 but it turned out to be the moon rising and the edge blending in with an irregular cloud edge which shortly showed itself for what it was. Even the hover to 900 knots could be unmanned but over Belgium, that doesn't make sense.

[AussieDog]

All in my own opinion of course....but you'd be a fool to think that alien life didn't exist elsewhere in many places, and that some of those life forms would be more advanced than us. If they are that advanced, then I'm damn sure they could watch us undetected. You'd also hope that with advanced intelligence would come the realisation that death and mayhem are a pointless waste of time and that, unless we became a threat to them, they would leave us alone.

[Dr Who?]

Yes I would like to think so.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

For a alien species to have visited our 'Island Earth' one has to assume that Einstein was wrong and that practicable faster than light travel is indeed possible - or that our space tourists are a much more long lived/patient life form than we are. For what it's worth given the (unimaginable) scale and age of the Universe I think it overwhelmingly likely that other technologically sophisticated life forms have and do exist - each of them perhaps forever isolated from each other by a unbridgeable gulf of interstellar space/time.

Having said that there have been observed phenomena in the sky that certainly defy conventional explanation .... so like all the best questions this one continues to evade any definitive answer.

[Joe Kirkup]

There is a belief, that Aliens were the missing link, and crashed landed on our planet, hence the Adam and Eve story in the bible!

This.

[Saintandy666]

This.

Not that at all. Where is there any evidence whatsoever that aliens crash landed on our planet... 'hence the Adam and Eve story'.

[AussieDog]

For a alien species to have visited our 'Island Earth' one has to assume that Einstein was wrong and that practicable faster than light travel is indeed possible - or that our space tourists are a much more long lived/patient life form than we are. For what it's worth given the (unimaginable) scale and age of the Universe I think it overwhelmingly likely that other technologically sophisticated life forms have and do exist - each of them perhaps forever isolated from each other by a unbridgeable gulf of interstellar space/time.

Having said that there have been observed phenomena in the sky that certainly defy conventional explanation .... so like all the best questions this one continues to evade any definitive answer.

Is the the same Einstein that also published a paper with his long-time collaborator Nathan Rosen showing that implicit in the general relativity formalism is a curved-space structure that can join two distant regions of space-time through a tunnel-like curved spatial shortcut?
http://www.krioma.net/articles/Bridg...n%20Bridge.htm

[scotty]

wasn't there a report done by the MoD a cpl years ago, said that most UFO sightings a reported by a drunk near an airfield.

of course they do.

[pap]

Is the the same Einstein that also published a paper with his long-time collaborator Nathan Rosen showing that implicit in the general relativity formalism is a curved-space structure that can join two distant regions of space-time through a tunnel-like curved spatial shortcut?
http://www.krioma.net/articles/Bridg...n%20Bridge.htm

That's pretty much how I see it. Don't think it's about beating the speed of light, more about finding a way around it. Einstein's theory places a constraint on one thing - the speed of objects. Now if you're planning to accelerate as fast as you can toward your target star, it is a problem. If you're just punching a hole in space, stepping through and saying "Hallo, Mr Klingon!", I'm not sure it applies.

Einstein's constraint on velocity doesn't necessarily prevent "faster than light" travel.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

If we're talking about what are commonly refereed to as 'worm holes' then as far as I'm aware these are only known to exist in theory - and in Science Fiction of course. If they exist at all is it possible for a large object (such as a space craft) to enter them and emerge on the other side intact ? Can you reliably chart exactly where in space/time you are destined to emerge ? Questions, questions .......

There's a easy way to explain to a child what we mean by 'warping' space.

1 - Get a piece of paper and draw two well separated dots on it.
2 - Ask kid to draw a line between the dots that represents the shortest distance between them - a bright child will draw a straight line.
3 - Take the paper off them and inform child they are hopelessly wrong
4 - Fold paper in half and punch a hole between the lined up dots with tip of pencil - you have just warped space.
5 - Prepare for bitter complaints and accusations of cheating !

[SO16_Saint]

Whilst I will accept that there is life on other planets out there

The chance that is has visited earth is impossible. Space is simply too big

The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, they say. The chances of anything coming from mars are a million to one - but still they come.