A Good Idea

[Saint_clark]

My presumption was that as a Saints fan you'd generally be quite interested to read the threads on this forum, and therefore, like we do, would notice when a thread about a potential player is being overtaken by a pedantic argument.

I am indeed, but I live and work in a Seaside tourist driven town and as such most of my time is taken up by work (especially with the Olympic sailing events going on down here).

[Glasgow_Saint]

All fair points. I will try to be more active than I have been recently. It's up to Steve or Baj if anyone else is made Moderator.

Me, me, pick me

[Glasgow_Saint]

If youre only interested in facts and information and are sooooo tired of off-topic stuff why use the forum?

Just read this every few days? www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Home

quite moaning like little babies all the time - I come on here for a bit of banter, fun and pick up the occasional bit of news.

[Golden Balls]

If youre only interested in facts and information and are sooooo tired of off-topic stuff why use the forum?

Just read this every few days? www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Home

quite moaning like little babies all the time - I come on here for a bit of banter, fun and pick up the occasional bit of news.

I don't think anyone would disagree with you that they'd like to have banter, fun and get occasional news but it becomes very tiresome having to trawl through endless posts by a few baiting others for a reaction (which they sadly achieve)

[Saint_clark]

If youre only interested in facts and information and are sooooo tired of off-topic stuff why use the forum?

Just read this every few days? www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Home

quite moaning like little babies all the time - I come on here for a bit of banter, fun and pick up the occasional bit of news.

The 92 posts I just deleted off the "final season ticket number" thread were not banter and were certainly not fun. I nearly clawed my eyes out reading them.

[Son of Bob]

The 92 posts I just deleted off the "final season ticket number" thread were not banter and were certainly not fun. I nearly clawed my eyes out reading them.

1 thread down 163 to go...

[Glasgow_Saint]

The 92 posts I just deleted off the "final season ticket number" thread were not banter and were certainly not fun. I nearly clawed my eyes out reading them.

Wish I could delete peoples posts - I would pay more for that ability!

[St Chalet]

I agree, especially having been there and done it, but this is why I suggested you perhaps need more mods to deal with the sheer number of posts. Plus, infractions need to be used more, with clear, consistent application and explanations, so that if someone consistently offends, they are banned, temporarily or permanently. Communication is king, both to forum users, and between mods, so that consistent standards are applied and everyone know what is happening and why...

Some mods come across as having a bit of an attitude at times too, which I'm sure is not intended, but the perception is there, and that never helps resolve a situation.

It's not an easy job, especially to do well, and I respect anyone who does it, but on a forum of this size, I think it needs a few more resources and co-ordination.

Fair points in there Minty.

It has been discussed on the Mod Forum in relation to certain posters over the Summer and the general opinion is that the issues have not got any worse than usual but are perhaps more obvious as this is quite a quiet time for news and indeed football matches. Not sure if I am one of the ones with an attitude but I'd always welcome a PM if you felt I have been out of order.

In respect of the numbers of Mods you may be right that we need more, especially if our user base grows as a Prem team. Ultimately that is Steve and Baj's call whether to add or replace. I am sure they will both read this and may act accordingly. Also this place is a lot easier to Moderate when the team is doing well, a 6-0 from Citeh on the first day may send us into meltdown!

Final point that was about members self-moderating, I would urge anyone who sees a thread being taking off topic to use the report function. This pings an e-mail to all admins and moderators who can then get directly to the thread to review.

[hypochondriac]

All fair points. I will try to be more active than I have been recently. It's up to Steve or Baj if anyone else is made Moderator.

I hope you understand that it works both ways.

[Gambol2K9]

Just put a limit on the maximum number of posts you're allowed to make each day.

Might encourage these so called 'forum personalities' to get a life outside of sitting on here all day.

[S-Clarke]

Some good points raised here and I'd like to add my 2 pence.

This is a great forum with many terrific contributors who all have great understanding of the game (and at the end of the day, this is what it's about - A football forum!). As people have stated the issues occur when ''certain posters'' (We don't need to name them) add their sarcastic/witty replies to pretty sensibly started threads.

More often than not it's a thread from MLG. I can understand why he gets on peoples nerves somtimes, but the amount of abuse and to a degree, bullying, he has had to put up with recently is out of order. The bloke is a saints fan, who is positive and passionate about our future, yet for some reason he's not allowed to be and a nice positive discussion about stadium improvements, training ground improvements etc gets eaten up by sarcastic and witty remarks which go round and round in a circle.

I think it's obvious when these threads are going to go down that route, so maybe the mods need to catch these early before they descend into the mass sarcastic contest they become. Don't get me wrong, the mods do a decent job here as it is - but maybe we need a few more to hit this current issue?

At the end of the day we all have opinions and there are some very good posters here that will slowly start to fade away if a certain group are allowed to continue taking over every thread with their drivel.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Name and shame the people

[S-Clarke]

Name and shame the people

I think it'll be obvious to most who they are . (hence why this thread was started!)

[Glasgow_Saint]

I think it'll be obvious to most who they are . (hence why this thread was started!)

Still think a name and shame would be useful

[Jonnyboy]

Still think a name and shame would be useful

Id start with: 1.) Original Bournemouth Saint

[hypochondriac]

I think if you asked MLG to tone down his ridiculous pedantry, his obsessive need to correct every minuscule piece of information when it is unnecessary and his selective reading of information (as well as never being able to admit he is wrong) then a significant amount of the problems would cease. Maybe people should ask why it is MLG and no one else who seems to be the one who gets the majority of those sort of comments. I accept that some of the sarcastic comments should be toned down too.

[Jonnyboy]

Ahhhhh, I get why the hypoid is posting loads of cr*p tonight:

2 posts off of 15,000

Congratulations.

I'm sure I speak for everyone in saying here's to the next 15,000!

[hypochondriac]

Ahhhhh, I get why the hypoid is posting loads of cr*p tonight:

2 posts off of 15,000

Congratulations.

I'm sure I speak for everyone in saying here's to the next 15,000!

Deppo wannabe.

[Jonnyboy]

Deppo wannabe.

Love you too Hypo x

[dune]

I think if you asked MLG to tone down his ridiculous pedantry, his obsessive need to correct every minuscule piece of information when it is unnecessary and his selective reading of information (as well as never being able to admit he is wrong) then a significant amount of the problems would cease. Maybe people should ask why it is MLG and no one else who seems to be the one who gets the majority of those sort of comments. I accept that some of the sarcastic comments should be toned down too.

MLG bites so a few posters wind him up. Personally I don't (maybe have half heartedly once or twice at most) because he does post some interesting stuff and I feel sorry for him when and he gets tedius dullards like you jumping on the bandwagon.

[Tokyo-Saint]

If youre only interested in facts and information and are sooooo tired of off-topic stuff why use the forum?

Just read this every few days? www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/Home

quite moaning like little babies all the time - I come on here for a bit of banter, fun and pick up the occasional bit of news.

And my vote goes to Glasgow saint.

[hypochondriac]

MLG bites so a few posters wind him up. Personally I don't (maybe have half heartedly once or twice at most) because he does post some interesting stuff and I feel sorry for him when and he gets tedius dullards like you jumping on the bandwagon.

Stop following me around the board just because you got a bit upset that your thread was moved.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Id start with: 1.) Original Bournemouth Saint

I dont recognise that username? Ok my go........ 2.) georgeweahscousin

[dune]

Stop following me around the board just because you got a bit upset that your thread was moved.

Hardly following you around when it was you that referred me me to this thread. I cannot fathom why you did though because it's just your usual snide remarks about a poster that brings far more to this place you.

[Minty]

Guys, you're not really going to let a thread about going off-topic and having a pop at each other, end up going that way are you?! lol

You've just ably demonstrated some of the points we've talked about. The need to reply to someone when you could just as easily ignore them and let the thread take it's course, potentially creating work for mods and detracting from a constructive discussion.

Hypo, not singling you out here, but you are quite prone to this... your comments about MLG sum this up. Yes he can be pedantic, and sometimes he too needs to think about what he posts, but your issues with him are based on the fact that he likes to clarify every point, reply to everyone and answer every point that is raised in reply to him, almost to excess. It does lead to a lot of posts, many of which we don't really *need* but in itself it is not a bad thing, and is not causing the problems we've talked about. When people exploit him however, and ask incessant or pointless questions which he doesn't pick up on it, and so continues to reply and reply and reply, that then starts to creates a situation.

So, if you think he has been pedantic but know what was meant, then just leave it. Or if you want to point it out or take it up with him, PM him. But I think everyone should bear the original thread subject in mind when replying and ask if they're on topic, and contributing more to that subject, or if they're only making the problem worse.

[Son of Bob]

I'm sorry but you couldn't make this kind of stuff. It's hilarious! People just can't help themselves. When I started this thread I thought to myself 'I wonder if it will descend into the kind of thread I'm talking about. Wouldn't that be ironic'. I guess the answer was obvious really. It just takes one or two to join in and it's handbags at dawn again. Honestly people - for the love of God, give it a rest. Un-ber-leavable.

[St Chalet]

I think if you asked MLG to tone down his ridiculous pedantry, his obsessive need to correct every minuscule piece of information when it is unnecessary and his selective reading of information (as well as never being able to admit he is wrong) then a significant amount of the problems would cease. Maybe people should ask why it is MLG and no one else who seems to be the one who gets the majority of those sort of comments. I accept that some of the sarcastic comments should be toned down too.

Glad to hear it is all MLG's fault. I think he adds something to the forum, struggling to make a case for the other usual suspects. I have watched this perfectly reasonable debate descend into the normal crap and to an extent let it happen to prove a point, exactly like the ignore thread that Weston started in Lounge.

As Minty has quite rightly said, if you don't really have a point to make - don't feel the need to.

[hypochondriac]

Glad to hear it is all MLG's fault. I think he adds something to the forum, struggling to make a case for the other usual suspects. I have watched this perfectly reasonable debate descend into the normal crap and to an extent let it happen to prove a point, exactly like the ignore thread that Weston started in Lounge.

As Minty has quite rightly said, if you don't really have a point to make - don't feel the need to.

I guess you didn't read my final line then. Of course it isn't all down to MLG, but that is the main things that prompt the sort of replies he gets. Others have to tone it down (including myself) as others have already pointed out but he needs to look at himself and stop some of what he does. It isn't a one way thing. All you are asking for is everyone to change except MLG who winds up so many.

[Colinjb]

It isn't a one way thing. All you are asking for is everyone to change except MLG who winds up so many.

The expression is; "Nobody likes a smartarse."

The problem is, he is genuinely trying to contribute. But he can go a little too far and winds people up often by correcting minutae that are irrelevant to the greater discussion. I don't for a second believe he has any mal-intent though.

[Gambol2K9]

If you have an issue with someone on the forum then have your little jeremy kyle argument over PM.

[dune]

The expression is; "Nobody likes a smartarse."

The problem is, he is genuinely trying to contribute. But he can go a little too far and winds people up often by correcting minutae that are irrelevant to the greater discussion. I don't for a second believe he has any mal-intent though.

That is nonsesnse in the main. Most people are just baiting him because he reacts. If anyone actually gets wound up they are in serious need of a personality transplant (this is not a dig at hypo btw - I wasn't even thinking about hypo when I typed that).

[hypochondriac]

The expression is; "Nobody likes a smartarse."

The problem is, he is genuinely trying to contribute. But he can go a little too far and winds people up often by correcting minutae that are irrelevant to the greater discussion. I don't for a second believe he has any mal-intent though.

Why is it not possible to contribute without being ridiculous? I can't see why anyone cannot see the line.