£30m spent?

[Avenue Saint]

Gazzaniga: £1m
Yoshida: £2m
Clyne: £2.5m
Davis: £1m
Ramirez: £15m (incl. penerol)
Mayuka: £2.4m
JRod: £6m

Approximations but who would've guessed that before?

What a window!

[Smirking_Saint]

I told you all end of season and about a week ago it would be 30m

Is it enough ?

Hope so

[Deanovski]

Gazzaniga: £500k
Yoshida: £2m
Clyne: £2.5m
Davis: was reported to be a fraction of the 800k touted
Ramirez: £15m (incl. penerol)
Mayuka: qpr offered 3.5m so i doubt we signed him for less
JRod: £6m

[Matthew Le God]

With little money coming in from player sales, Saints have of the highest net spends of any English club this summer.

[Rebel]

We probably needed to spend £40M or £50M to stay up though! I always used to say clubs needed to spend £50M to bridge the gap between the Chapionship and the Premier League and I don't think I've changed my mind!

It's not like promotion from League One where we'd already brought in Championship quality players.

[Thedelldays]

We probably needed to spend £40M or £50M to stay up though! I always used to say clubs needed to spend £50M to bridge the gap between the Chapionship and the Premier League and I don't think I've changed my mind!

It's not like promotion from League One where we'd already brought in Championship quality players.

well, you clearly are wrong though

[saintsmike25]

I don't agree with that ^ no-club spends £50m in their first Prem season. What a load of tosh.

[S-Clarke]

With little money coming in from player sales, Saints have of the highest net spends of any English club this summer.

We've been well and truly backed. Puts all the ''we have no money'' brigade to sleep.

[Thedelldays]

We've been well and truly backed. Puts all the ''we have no money'' brigade to sleep.

and the club is for sale etc

[Matthew Le God]

We probably needed to spend £40M or £50M to stay up though! I always used to say clubs needed to spend £50M to bridge the gap between the Chapionship and the Premier League and I don't think I've changed my mind!.

Well that is utter nonsense! Norwich and Swansea didn't spent remotely close to £40m or £50m last summer and they finished 12th and 11th! They spent between £10m and £15m iirc.

[Ewell]

It is not about how much you spend but more to do with who you spend it on. Thee is also the fact that the 30 million spent does not include wages so you have probably add another 10-15 million on for that.

Not much idea on the new boys other than the ones I have seen play already. I hope they are all worth the money and a huge success. COYR

[Avenue Saint]

We probably needed to spend £40M or £50M to stay up though! I always used to say clubs needed to spend £50M to bridge the gap between the Chapionship and the Premier League and I don't think I've changed my mind!

It's not like promotion from League One where we'd already brought in Championship quality players.

Mate, which team in the history of the premier league has spent £50m on promotion?

[Avenue Saint]

"we have no money"

"club is to be sold"

Add to above, Adkins is due to be sacked!

[Thedelldays]

we have spent more than liverpool


LOL

[saintbletch]

Sky just put our spending at £29.3m. Incidentally the same amount as Liverpool. Can't argue with that.

[Matthew Le God]

Southampton spent £29.3m and recouped about £500k in transfer fees. Puts them around 5th in terms of money spent and about 3rd of net spenders in Premier League.

[Avenue Saint]

Sky just put our spending at £29.3m. Incidentally the same amount as Liverpool. Can't argue with that.

Who have they got money for though? I know they would have got a lofty loan fee for Carroll, something way beyond what we would have got for Sharp and Hammond combined!

[ART]

Not happy over the goalkeeper/centre back situation. I'm left with the feeling that too much has been put into too few quality players, that we're top heavy on strikers and lacking in a solid defense. Time will tell and the biggest pressure is now on Adkins to put these players together into a winning side that will keep us up and progress in the direction of the Champions League. After all Alan Pardew has set a highly desirable precedent

[Avenue Saint]

Not happy over the goalkeeper/centre back situation. I'm left with the feeling that too much has been put into too few quality players, that we're top heavy on strikers and lacking in a solid defense. Time will tell and the biggest pressure is now on Adkins to put these players together into a winning side that will keep us up and progress in the direction of the Champions League. After all Alan Pardew has set a highly desirable precedent

I think it's been an absolute riot. If I'm being overly fussy/greedy, I would have had a pacy left back to equal clyne's driving strengths from the right side.

As it is, we've got yoshi and jos, who I like to think will strike up a mean effective, well balanced partnership! With Fonte in reserve, as a back up, he WILL do a job.

Happy, more than content.

[sandwichsaint]

Gazzaniga: £1m
Yoshida: £2m
Clyne: £2.5m
Davis: £1m
Ramirez: £15m (incl. penerol)
Mayuka: £2.4m
JRod: £6m

Approximations but who would've guessed that before?

What a window!

Fantastically sensible buying .... pretty much all of these players will have a good sell-on value. All of these players are of a good age and have plenty of growing to do. We get the use of decent players in the here and now and as circumstances change (up or down) they will maintain their value.

Win/win!

[Avenue Saint]

Fantastically sensible buying .... pretty much all of these players will have a good sell-on value. All of these players are of a good age and have plenty of growing to do. We get the use of decent players in the here and now and as circumstances change (up or down) they will maintain their value.

Win/win!

You just get the feeling that Cortese and Adkins want all these young players to grow together. Really indicative of a long term vision.

[SNSUN]

I get the feeling Mayuka will prove to be the bargain of that little lot, but it was obvious we needed to strengthen and we spent a good amount to do so. It's only half a season we have to go through until the next window anyway - we can spend a bit more then.

Most importantly, 4 or 5 of those are, or will eventually be, in our first XI. Adkins philosophy was to strengthen the squad with better than what we had, and he's done that.

[SaintsAhoy]

You just get the feeling that Cortese and Adkins want all these young players to grow together. Really indicative of a long term vision.

Yeah I would agree with this. It remains to be seen how our relatively young team will perform this season, but compared to our previous premier league transfer windows, this has been fantastic. All the signs are that we are a well-run, ambitious club. We have one of the brightest young(ish) English managers at the helm and I'm sure he will make a success of this season and hopefully many more to come. COYR!

[SaintBobby]

On reflection, it is pretty staggering that we've spent about £30m net.

I do hope we're not being financially reckless - I suspect not, Cortese seems to know just what he's doing.

[Avenue Saint]

yeah i would agree with this. It remains to be seen how our relatively young team will perform this season, but compared to our previous premier league transfer windows, this has been fantastic. All the signs are that we are a well-run, ambitious club. We have one of the brightest young(ish) english managers at the helm and i'm sure he will make a success of this season and hopefully many more to come. Coyr!

coyr!

[Hedgehog]

Whilst i think or hope these signings pay dividends, this is all that is wrong with football today, fans seem to revel in the amount of money spent or the weekly wage of a player that has signed. The only ones who suffer are us the paying public for increased ticket prices. The players get richer and we get poorer. Was the excitement of the last 2 years any less than what we will gain by any positive results in the Premier league, yet we are paying a lot more? Not being a drug taker but does a £20 fix feel better than a £10 fix.

[shurlock]

Question remains: would you rather have one blue-chip investment like Ramirez or two or three solid £4m+ players that would give us strength in depth?

[Chez]

The Guardian suggest the Gazza signing was £2.77m. If fans knew that was what we had spent I think they'd view him differently. He's a real talent.

[Chez]

Question remains: would you rather have one blue-chip investment like Ramirez or two or three solid £4m+ players that would give us strength in depth?

got to add wages to any transfer fee, so three £4m players and their wages is going to add up to more than one £12m player. Personally I always though the Clot had it right, quality of quantity.

[shurlock]

got to add wages to any transfer fee, so three £4m players and their wages is going to add up to more than one £12m player. Personally I always though the Clot had it right, quality of quantity.

True that's why I said 2 or 3 (of course, that depends how much ultimately pay for ramirez - im pretty sure we're paying more than £12m once penarol's fee is included).

But the point remains: would it have been a better strategy to have spread the money around a bit more rather than putting most of our eggs in one basket?

[sperm_john]

sky sports news raving about clint dempsey going to spurs, we could of had two clint dempseys for what we paid for one ramirez ... intriguing

[Chez]

True that's why I said 2 or 3 (of course, that depends how much ultimately pay for ramirez - im pretty sure we're paying more than £12m once penarol's fee is included).

But the point remains: would it have been a better strategy to have spread the money around a bit more rather than putting most of our eggs in one basket?

nope. You need real top end quality in this league in the final third to unlock teams. Besides we've got these other eggs already in the likes of Ricky, Morgan and Lallana

[Matthew Le God]

we could of had two clint dempseys for what we paid for one ramirez ... intriguing

That doesn't take into account you'd have to double Dempsey's wages, agent fees and bonuses. Nor does it take into account Ramirez is 8 years younger than Dempsey and holds more long term value.

[Chez]

sky sports news raving about clint dempsey going to spurs, we could of had two clint dempseys for what we paid for one ramirez ... intriguing

£100k a week Dempsey with a zero sell on fee? Let's quality for Europe before we leave the tighter business ship behind ay?

[Sour Mash]

Pleased overall with our signings. Mayuka and Ramirez are genuinely exciting. Clyne has been excellent. Davis solid and experienced. Rodriguez -jury is still out a bit for me, haven't seen enough from him yet. Wish we'd bought a solid, experienced CB though, really think that would have made a difference (a left back and keeper would have been good, but then you're getting too close to changing a whole first XI in one summer), Yoshida sounds like he has potential but not the sort to necessarily come straight in and dominate in a tough, fast paced Prem game.

[positivepete]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...2-deadline-day

The source for the guardian was

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/pr...ewerb_GB1.html

[Dig Dig]

Pleased overall with our signings. Mayuka and Ramirez are genuinely exciting. Clyne has been excellent. Davis solid and experienced. Rodriguez -jury is still out a bit for me, haven't seen enough from him yet. Wish we'd bought a solid, experienced CB though, really think that would have made a difference (a left back and keeper would have been good, but then you're getting too close to changing a whole first XI in one summer), Yoshida sounds like he has potential but not the sort to necessarily come straight in and dominate in a tough, fast paced Prem game.

Pretty much sums it up for me. I think Rodriguez will be good as a centre forward, needs games and a goal there though in order to kick on

[SNSUN]

Question remains: would you rather have one blue-chip investment like Ramirez or two or three solid £4m+ players that would give us strength in depth?

50/50.

A GK, A LB and a CB each for £4 million would sort our defence out, but we'd lack the exciting creative edge Ramirez will give us. Plus he's a massive investment. Even a few good games and his transfer fee will sky rocket. This is all hypothetical of course, but it's possible you'd make more money in profit from selling one Ramirez than three squad players.

Assuming, and plenty of wishful thinking, that our defence will in fact cope until January, I'm far happier with Ramirez. He's made the headlines too, record transfer fee, wonderkid, longest thread for a player on SWF...

[CB Fry]

Sorry chaps. Looks like we need to perform in this league now.

With that kind of expenditure we cannot portray ourselves as plucky, fresh faced underdogs. We have blown most other teams out of the water this window. So we have to expect the manager and team to deliver, not just scrape safety.

[Frank's cousin]

You cant judge this only on the amount spent you need to look at age, and sell on potential. Because these are young players, even if relegated, we coiuld sell Ramirez and the 15mil (assuming a breaken even average season for the guy) we would get would mean we could keep everyone else together for a ppush for promotion... If we have a realy good seasona nd ramirez really shines, chance are that a CL club may want him, but his value will be 25mil plus under thsoe circumstances and that means a nice budget for a replacements.

We have not spent this money on any 'guarantee to keep you up signings' - but players wth potential to grow together - addd in lalllana, Lee, schneiderlien, gazza, ward prowse, luke shaw and yes we are still a CB or or 2 short, but it has the feel of one of these sides that could do something in acouple of years - sure we would proba;y end up doing a Leverkusen if ever we did, with the best moving on for very big money, but I am sure we would b happy with cyclical success based on investing in talented youth. The hope must be that thy have enough about them this year to not ony stay up, but do so comfortably.

[CB Fry]

sky sports news raving about clint dempsey going to spurs, we could of had two clint dempseys for what we paid for one ramirez ... intriguing

....and Liverpool couldn't get that money together.....even more intriguing!

[saintbletch]

Sorry chaps. Looks like we need to perform in this league now.

With that kind of expenditure we cannot portray ourselves as plucky, fresh faced underdogs. We have blown most other teams out of the water this window. So we have to expect the manager and team to deliver, not just scrape safety.

I agree to an extent. We've certainly created expectation through spending that money, but I think your conclusion is a little dramatic.

We might have outspent a lot of the teams in the league, but a lot of the teams in the league have been in the league for some time.

We've attempted to fast track our squad to a certain standard, so I'd say that yes, we should expect the team to deliver - but not in line with our spending rank, or anything near that.

I'd say that if we get the new players to gel then we should 'expect' safety with perhaps a buffer of 3 or 4 teams below us and the drop zone. Expecting anything more than that expectation would be naive.

Takeaway the Ramirez signing and we've spent still spent significantly but nowhere near as dramatically on a cost per player basis as if you include Ramirez.

I think our season finish is linked to NA's ability to get the formation to work, to get the new players bedded in and of course Ramirez's performance.

I don't expect those things to be easy, so I'm not linking our spending performance with our sporting one.

[saintbletch]

You cant judge this only on the amount spent you need to look at age, and sell on potential. Because these are young players, even if relegated, we coiuld sell Ramirez and the 15mil (assuming a breaken even average season for the guy) we would get would mean we could keep everyone else together for a ppush for promotion... If we have a realy good seasona nd ramirez really shines, chance are that a CL club may want him, but his value will be 25mil plus under thsoe circumstances and that means a nice budget for a replacements.

We have not spent this money on any 'guarantee to keep you up signings' - but players wth potential to grow together - addd in lalllana, Lee, schneiderlien, gazza, ward prowse, luke shaw and yes we are still a CB or or 2 short, but it has the feel of one of these sides that could do something in acouple of years - sure we would proba;y end up doing a Leverkusen if ever we did, with the best moving on for very big money, but I am sure we would b happy with cyclical success based on investing in talented youth. The hope must be that thy have enough about them this year to not ony stay up, but do so comfortably.

I'd agree with that.

Let's hope the team "does something" and stays in the league long enough to prove that.

[manji]

Sorry chaps. Looks like we need to perform in this league now.

With that kind of expenditure we cannot portray ourselves as plucky, fresh faced underdogs. We have blown most other teams out of the water this window. So we have to expect the manager and team to deliver, not just scrape safety.

I would imagine Cortese has said the same.

[CB Fry]

I agree to an extent. We've certainly created expectation through spending that money, but I think your conclusion is a little dramatic.

We might have outspent a lot of the teams in the league, but a lot of the teams in the league have been in the league for some time.

We've attempted to fast track our squad to a certain standard, so I'd say that yes, we should expect the team to deliver - but not in line with our spending rank, or anything near that.

I'd say that if we get the new players to gel then we should 'expect' safety with perhaps a buffer of 3 or 4 teams below us and the drop zone. Expecting anything more than that expectation would be naive.

Takeaway the Ramirez signing and we've spent still spent significantly but nowhere near as dramatically on a cost per player basis as if you include Ramirez.

I think our season finish is linked to NA's ability to get the formation to work, to get the new players bedded in and of course Ramirez's performance.

I don't expect those things to be easy, so I'm not linking our spending performance with our sporting one.

I don't expect us to finish fifth by the way. But Cortese will expect us to finish solidly - 14th or thereabouts.

I just don't expect to read on here enless stuff about how we were bottom of league one etc etc. All irrelevent now.

We've spent the kind of money people in the Lowe era said we needed to spend to "get to the next level"etc. Well, we've done it now. So lets not start looking for a new excuse.

[Thedelldays]

I don't expect us to finish fifth by the way. But Cortese will expect us to finish solidly - 14th or thereabouts.

I just don't expect to read on here enless stuff about how we were bottom of league one etc etc. All irrelevent now.

I agree....you can't argue with NC if he has said to adkins...
"right, you have been backed more than any manager at this club has ever got, you have upgrades in nearly all positions..now, I don't expect us to be going into the last few games with the real threat of relegation"

adkins has been backed big time......and he is smart enough to get it right IMO
just hope people have a little patience as the next two games are incredibly tough

[sotonjoe]

Not happy over the goalkeeper/centre back situation. I'm left with the feeling that too much has been put into too few quality players, that we're top heavy on strikers and lacking in a solid defense. Time will tell and the biggest pressure is now on Adkins to put these players together into a winning side that will keep us up and progress in the direction of the Champions League. After all Alan Pardew has set a highly desirable precedent

I hadn't really thought about GKs until now, but you might be on to something there.

I certainly have my concerns about the defence though. I think four quality CBs should be the minimum, and at the moment we have Jos, Fonte - and I'll leave it up to the rest of you to deicde what sort of 'quality' they are - and a new Olympic international. At best, we're left with three players there and one injury leaves us already very bare. Whilst Clyne looks quality at RB, the LB situation is a joke. Without knowing the Buttner situation, I can't help thinking we should have pushed harder on that deal if we had the power to do so.

[saintbletch]

I don't expect us to finish fifth by the way. But Cortese will expect us to finish solidly - 14th or thereabouts.

I just don't expect to read on here enless stuff about how we were bottom of league one etc etc. All irrelevent now.

We've spent the kind of money people in the Lowe era said we needed to spend to "get to the next level"etc. Well, we've done it now. So lets not start looking for a new excuse.

Yep, I'd agree with that. Perhaps it's just my outlook on life, but I wouldn't use the word 'expect'.

I'd have to add caveats about team gelling, etc.

It's funny, when I look at QPR's spending and determination to buy a first eleven at every transfer market opportunity, I can see that going dramatically one of two ways. I have no expectation of that working. On paper it should. But football isn't played...

Bonding those 12 new players into a squad that included 10+ new players at the last window will take some doing. And if they get a few stuffings along the way, then picking up the players and keeping their morale high will be a season-long challenge.

[CB Fry]

I agree....you can't argue with NC if he has said to adkins...
"right, you have been backed more than any manager at this club has ever got, you have upgrades in nearly all positions..now, I don't expect us to be going into the last few games with the real threat of relegation"

adkins has been backed big time......and he is smart enough to get it right IMO
just hope people have a little patience as the next two games are incredibly tough

Correct. I don't think this team will completely click for a few more weeks. And, yep highly likely we'll be bottom on zero after four. No problem with that.

[Thedelldays]

Correct. I don't think this team will completely click for a few more weeks. And, yep highly likely we'll be bottom on zero after four. No problem with that.

totally agree...I expected it really....end of november will be a good test to see if we have picked up....which should be around 10 games..