Enjoying life and still supporting Saints? HTH.
What it says in the title really as Does anyone on here know what he is doing now as I was
at the game on Sunday and as I was waiting for the Man U team to turn up I saw walking
past me was Leon Crouch with his wife and am just seeing that whether anyone knows
what he is up to now!?!
Enjoying life and still supporting Saints? HTH.
I imagine he's in bed but We'l See!
Doing well I hope.
Saw something the other day that said SAF popped up into Crouch's corporate box to say hi to Lawrie Mac before the game started. So presumably he's still running his business and watching Saints on the weekend.
He was much criticised for his participation with L**e in the desperate weeks leading to administration, but for me he is the man who stepped up and rescued the first Ted Bates statue debacle, and funded the brilliant and very popular statue we have today.
A friend of mine passed on a story about him not so long ago. No reason to doubt it. Crouch carved up my friend's friend on a carriageway going into Southampton, caused a bad accident. Wrote said friend of a friend's car off. Crouch offered to buy him a brand new and much better car, knowing full well he was responsible and likely to get done for driving without due care and attention or dangerous driving, should the friend of a friend say he wanted him prosecuted.
Hope he's doing well - he invested and lost a lot of cash and supported the club in its hour of need - I always had an issue with the percieved naivity in the wild spending in the CCC and in some of the odd baordroom appointments - so not a fan of his running of the club, but i cant fault his intentions or the honorable in which he conducted himself with respect to the stature, funding the club, and to be honest I suspect he probably knew pinnacle was doomed, but as it wa sthe only show in town at the time cant fault him for trying to help and funding their exclusivity. Time always makes us more balanced in thes eissues, and frankly I am quite embarrased now about some of the issues and concerns I expressed about him at the time - If I ever met him, I would be more than happy to shake his hand and apologise. I guess it was a naturally 'angry' time and I was probably not the only one who made sweeping judgements and held unnecessary prejudices about those involved, be they Lowe, Wilde or Crouch.
Thankfully times have chnaged and we have moved on, and but for a few suspicious odd balls, we seem pretty united now that the ownershoip and direction is in safe hands, even if some of the ploicies are perhaps less fan friendly than some would like - we should remember what most said at the time, that ultimately, its what happens on teh pitch by which we should judge those in stewardship of the club.
I was in the Saints foundation lounge overlooking the players and their families part of the car park and was pleased to see him park there and walk round.
Does anyone know if he can play in defence
As far as I am aware, he has retired from his core business, which was Lymington Precision Engineering
I share the sentiments of goodwill towards Leon, and am pleased he is still supporting and welcomed by the club, unlike the various shysters that were involved in that whole sh*tty period.
I saw Crouch standing outside the City Ground with his daughter just before the last game before we went into League 1. For no reason I felt overwhelmed to go and shake him by the hand and thank him for all he had tried to do. It made me feel better anyway even if he thought 'who was that knob?'
When an accident of that nature happens, the victim is required to fill out a report which at one point asks 'Do you think driver that is believed to have caused the incident should be prosecuted?' or something along those lines. In my case, I received a phone call from the police a few weeks later after they had investigated the accident I was involved in, saying that because it had been the opinion of the victim that I should be prosecuted, I would be in court facing up to driving without due care and attention. The rationale for that was that the victim had suffered an injury. Obviously were I to be prosecuted, her case for compensation would have been strengthened.
Or would you care to challenge what actually happened to me with your expert legal mind?
As for Leon Crouch, back to the thread, it has been said without him our club would no longer exist. Plus, we have the Ted Bates statue. I have only good things to say when you think of him in those terms.
It has nothing to do with having an 'expert legal mind', and everything to do with the DPP's Guidance.
A charging decision is made on an evidential basis, based on 1) whether there is a realistic prospect of conviction and 2) whether it is in the public interest. Why on earth would the opinion of any lay person, with no training or experience in the law in question, have any bearing on whether there was a realistic prospect of conviction or not? "Public interest" doesn't mean the interest of one member of the public, it means the public as a whole.
Road Traffic offences are (almost exclusively) offences against the Crown, not a person. Careless/Dangerous Driving certainly it. So whilst the wishes of the victim in the case of, for example, an assault, might have *some influence*, but not dictate, the decision-making process (usually in regards to the disposal method, rather than the decision to charge or not), in the case of a Road Traffic matter other motorists are 'just' witnesses, and their opinions on whether a prosecution should go ahead or not are largely irrelevant.3.8 Application of the Full Code Test
In any case where the charging decision is to be made, and the
information required to be considered under Paragraph 7.2 (below) of
this Guidance is available for review, the standard to be applied in
reaching the charging decision will be the Full Test under the Code for
Crown Prosecutors: namely (following a review of the evidential
material provided) that there is enough evidence to provide a realistic
prospect of conviction and that it is in the public interest to proceed.
Last edited by stu0x; 04-09-2012 at 12:02 PM.
ooo this is better than East Enders - what happened next?
Thanks to Leon I once came back from an away game £1250 richer
Expanding the topic slightly, what has happened to Mikey Wilde, and we dont hear much about old Rupes now-a-days?
Wasn't Wilde or Crouch something to do with Trant: that were advertised on the new pitchside electronic thingy on Sunday
Lowe is at W H Ireland
yesterdays fish and chip paper, who cares.
I was at a wedding reception at his house last saturday didnt manage to talk to him really (free bar is dangerous) but he did tell me and a couple others who were loitering not to go skinny dipping in his pool.
Overheard one of the other guests saying that he has lost his corporate box
Saw loads of saints shirts and posters etc through the window of his bar and its obvious he is a saints man thru and thru.
As others have said he was there when saints needed him.
Saw him up at Bramall lane for a midweek game during the dark days of the 2008-09 season -a few months after Lowe's coup. Nothing glamorous about the game -it was ******ing it down- but he was there on the terraces.
My Great Uncle is very close friends with Leon Crouch. Knows alot about his sacrifices during our struggling seasons, Leon put around £2.5 million into the club to stop us going into administration in 2008 and also around £300,000 to keep us going when we were in administration. All his own money that he knew he would never get back. apparently he is one of very few people who does get reductions from Cortese for tickets, he might even get them for free. (im not sure)