Our friend Neil Ashton

'Have now discovered Schneiderlin's agent was in Southampton team hotel on Saturday to be told his client must keep his head down and perform and then the club will look at his situation again in January, but more likely next summer.

 

'Big issues with Victor Wanyama on the day of the gem too. He also wants out but Southampton are refusing to let him go. All got a bit tasty at the hotel before the game by all accounts, but players responded on the pitch by beating West Ham 3-1.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739246/Transfer-News-DEADLINE-DAY-LIVE-Follow-deals-rumours-drama-unfolds.html

Relentless from Ashton. 10/10 for perseverance.

Tedious as ever. But an ounce of truth if that was reason VW left out on Saturday.

Tedious as ever. But an ounce of truth if that was reason VW left out on Saturday.

Bl00dy hope not! - Our midfield will be thread bare in a year

Tedious as ever. But an ounce of truth if that was reason VW left out on Saturday.

Thought VW was out due to injury sustained at Millwall?

It's been obvious for a while Wanyama wants out so hardly surprising and Schneiderlin's problems are more than well documented.

Thought VW was out due to injury sustained at Millwall?

thought he had been left out after a s hit performance at Millwall

It would be pretty gutless of Wanyama to want out after his earlier comments about intending to stay. Seems like a bit of pointless stirring.

It's been obvious for a while Wanyama wants out so hardly surprising and Schneiderlin's problems are more than well documented.

Really? What have I missed.

It's been obvious for a while Wanyama wants out so hardly surprising and Schneiderlin's problems are more than well documented.

How has it been obvious ?

Why would the management wait until the day of a match to have that conversation with Morgan's agent? I thought it had been "sorted" before Saturday anyway.

It's been obvious for a while Wanyama wants out so hardly surprising and Schneiderlin's problems are more than well documented.

Has it? He's played well apart from the Millwall game where he probably felt he didn't have to get out of second gear. I wouldn't be surprised if he was dropped for the West Ham game as Koeman won't allow complacency.

How has it been obvious ?

Obvious in that he hasn't said a word about it. That kind of obvious?

Fair play to him for actually getting paid to be nothing more than a troll.

Neil Ashton adding 2+2 = 5. Not surprising that a Mail journalist can't add up as he certainly can't spell - it's 'game' not 'gem' you thick t wat. With 2-3 new arrivals and hopefully no major departures at SFC, time to read it and weep Neil. He'll be weeping even more soon once UKIP cut the Tory party in half.

Obvious in that he hasn't said a word about it. That kind of obvious?

Sorry, interview attached, just give me a second

Notice how he says very soon he will be going back to the Champions league, interview in the Kenyan Daily Post.

http://thebreakingnewskenya.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/victor-wanyama-reveals-champions-league-ambitions-hints-at-saints-exit/

Negative articles = made-up trouble-making

Positive articles = accurate and objective

Really? What have I missed.

How has it been obvious ?

Has it? He's played well apart from the Millwall game where he probably felt he didn't have to get out of second gear. I wouldn't be surprised if he was dropped for the West Ham game as Koeman won't allow complacency.

Obvious in that he hasn't said a word about it. That kind of obvious?

Sorry, interview attached just give me a second

 

Notice how he says very soon he will be going back to the Champions league, interview in the Kenyan Daily Post.

 

http://thebreakingnewskenya.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/victor-wanyama-reveals-champions-league-ambitions-hints-at-saints-exit/

An interview he very soon afterwards said was basically made up.

An interview he very soon afterwards said was basically made up.

Ah, so I'm the one who missed something then. Apologies guys

Negative articles = made-up trouble-making

 

Positive articles = accurate and objective

Mail articles = take with a pinch of salt

I think you are being unfair here on Simon Jones. He and Ashton take it in turns to write something about Saints. I might be a little touchy but I can't recall a positive article since the Chief Exec (or whatever title he gave himself) decided he was going to be off. Maybe they will write something positive about us one day.

Mail articles = take with a pinch of salt

We can dismiss the link to Mane then.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739393/Southampton-offer-11-8million-Red-Bull-Salzburg-forward-Sadio-Mane.html

We can dismiss the link to Mane then.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739393/Southampton-offer-11-8million-Red-Bull-Salzburg-forward-Sadio-Mane.html

Simon Jones just rewrites other people's stuff so it's reliability is entirely dependent on which outlet he got the story from.

We can dismiss the link to Mane then.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2739393/Southampton-offer-11-8million-Red-Bull-Salzburg-forward-Sadio-Mane.html

You can believe or disbelieve all you like. I am just saying that if you believe everything you read in the Mail you are going to be disappointed.

You can believe or disbelieve all you like. I am just saying that if you believe everything you read in the Mail you are going to be disappointed.

Same notion applies to when you disbelieve everything just because it's in the Mail......you may be disappointed...

Same notion applies to when you disbelieve everything just because it's in the Mail......you may be disappointed...

The Mail publishes a lot more rubbish about Saints than other papers but yes - there is a lot of cr*p printed. For example, Capel was supposed to have been a done deal today.

..so they all had a big falling out before the West Ham game... and MS chooses that game to come out and do what was a pretty positive interview...yes he didn't commit his future wholesale to the club... but why not just keep his head down.. if there had been a big fall out...

It's been obvious for a while Wanyama wants out so hardly surprising and Schneiderlin's problems are more than well documented.

And still they don't give Jack Cork a new contract!

Same notion applies to when you disbelieve everything just because it's in the Mail......you may be disappointed...

Seems they were wrong about Taider as well.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2738133/Saphir-Taider-set-leave-Southampton-just-THREE-weeks-arriving-season-log-loan-Inter-Milan.html

The point is that the Mail have probably done more muck racking about SFC this summer than any other newspaper which would imply there is some kind of agenda going on.

Seems they were wrong about Taider as well.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2738133/Saphir-Taider-set-leave-Southampton-just-THREE-weeks-arriving-season-log-loan-Inter-Milan.html

That was written by Simon Peach not Neil Ashton.

The point is that the Mail have probably done more muck racking about SFC this summer than any other newspaper which would imply there is some kind of agenda going on.

Any other newspaper should read all the other newspapers put together.

That was written by Simon Peach not Neil Ashton.

The discussion with SOG (see his post #20) has turned to the DM in general.

The club themselves made a point of saying that the Mail (and the Echo for that matter) print rubbish about the club. Would you disagree that the Mail has printed more negative stories about SFC than most this summer???

The discussion with SOG (see his post #20) has turned to the DM in general.

Is it not more the point that the things you are picking out are things that are being widely reported in several places.

This thing from Ashton is the only place I have heard of a falling out pre-match and Big Vic being desperate to leave, other than an 'interview' which the man himself said was untrue.

Is it not more the point that the things you are picking out are things that are being widely reported in several places.

 

This thing from Ashton is the only place I have heard of a falling out pre-match and Big Vic being desperate to leave, other than an 'interview' which the man himself said was untrue.

No that's not the point. The 'point' is ref post #20 or post #16. Papers are papers, journo's are journo's. The bottom line is there is a mix of BS and accuracy in all media and you have to fight you're way through it to find the truth. But to dismiss or believe everything is probably not the answer.

The "point" about the Mail is that, more than any other paper, seem to have had it in for SFC this summer. How much is BS and who much is true who knows - but they do seem to have an agenda.

No that's not the point. The 'point' is ref post #20 or post #16. Papers are papers, journo's are journo's. The bottom line is there is a mix of BS and accuracy in all media and you have to fight you're way through it to find the truth. But to dismiss or believe everything is probably not the answer.

Well yes, that's obvious really.

No-one is disputing that really, are they?

That was written by Simon Peach not Neil Ashton.

Worth noting Simon Peach is a Saints fan was once a member of London Saints so don't think he has an agenda against us

Still waaaaaaaaaaaaa'ing that Cortese has gone

Still waaaaaaaaaaaaa'ing that Cortese has gone

How do you feel about Taider failing here?

If Wanyama does want out, then respect to him for getting his head down, playing well and keeping that business quiet.

Can we now expect an article in the Daily Mail talking about how well the Board and manager have done in stabilising the club and rebuilding the squad in a short space of time? Somehow I doubt it.

How do you feel about Taider failing here?

Surely the one who needs to worry about Taider's failure here is Taider himself. He has made himself look very unprofessional and you'd think others would think twice before signing him.

How do you feel about Taider failing here?

should have built the team around him.

should have built the team around him.

Like it

All together now P**s Off Ashton just let us know when you come to St Marys and we can let you know exactly what we think of you.

Same notion applies to when you disbelieve everything just because it's in the Mail......you may be disappointed...

Are you saying it's not true that I will only be able to buy halal meat at Tescos and that immigrants despite being behind me in the queue won't get served first?

The Mail publishes a lot more rubbish about Saints than other papers but yes - there is a lot of cr*p printed. For example, Capel was supposed to have been a done deal today.

More rubbish from The DM. Where will it ever end?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2748093/Francis-Benali-pushing-limit-ex-Southampton-defender-runs-1000-miles-three-weeks-Cancer-Research.html

Strange post. So you are saying that they haven't printed any rubbish about us this summer???