Wiggles31 Posted 1 September, 2014 Share Posted 1 September, 2014 Window closed now onto the next game. I would bring in Cork and Wanyama for JWP and Davis. Then a debut for Toby in place of Yoshi. 2-0 win and a promising cameo for Mane (presuming he signs!) Upbeat now for the season ahead. Finally have a strong squad and cover in most positions. COYS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 That nobody has posted on this yet shows the priorities lie with the new signings! I'm confident going into this game, I suppose it will help if we get no injuries for those playing internationals. 3-2 Saints in a thriller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Yoshi has done alright but I can't imagine Toby wont go straight into the starting line up. Mane probably on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Can't imagine Cork will start, and we are a much more attacking threat with an attacking midfielder in there instead of Wanyama - his inclusion at the expense of a more attacking player was the problem with creativity against West Brom. Alderweireld will almost certainly start, but it remains to be seen if he plays left centre back instead of Yoshida or his usual position of RCB... instead of Fonte. You'd also expect Gardos might start to feature soon - or not at all. Forster; Clyne, Alderweireld, Fonte/Yoshida/Gardos, Bertrand; Schneiderlin; Davis, Ward-Prowse; Tadic, Pelle, Long Subs: Boruc (I hope); 2 from Fonte/Yoshida/Gardos, Cork, Wanyama, Reed/Mayuka/Gallagher, Mane Feels weird not being able to plug in Gaston on the bench "just in case". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 At last, back to the football. No changes for me from the West Ham game. Bring on the Toon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I would go with Cork as a front sweeper for this one, to repel attacks across the width of the pitch: -------------------------------------Forster-------------------------------------- Clyne-----------------Fonte---------------------Maya-----------------Bertrand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mane----------Long----------------Pelle--------------Tadic--------------Morgan Subs: Kelvin, Gardos, Toby, Davis, Wanyama, JWP, Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 4-1-5 Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 (edited) I'd go for.... Forster Clyne - Alderweireld - Fonte* - Bertrand Cork - Schneiderlin - JWP Long - Pelle - Tadic Subs: Boruc**, Targett, Gardos, Wanyama, S Davis, Mane, Gallagher*** * Yes, I know Fonte isn't a left sided CB but.... ** If head in the right place, otherwise K Davis *** If fit, otherwise Mayuka or an U21 forward Edit: I like Harry Reed and always try to get him into 'my' squad, but, injuries aside, it's difficult to see where he's going to get much opportunity as we're so strong (relatively) in midfield. Shame really, especially given he's often being touted as this year's "academy breakthrough" player. Maybe this'll be the first season in a while that we don't have such a breakthrough player? Edited 2 September, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken spoke Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I will be there, wearing my lucky pants, so unfortunately it will be 0-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I'd go for.... Forster Clyne - Alderweireld - Fonte* - Bertrand Cork - Schneiderlin - JWP Long - Pelle - Tadic Subs: Boruc**, Targett, Gardos, Wanyama, S Davis, Mane, Gallagher*** * Yes, I know Fonte isn't a left sided CB but.... ** If head in the right place, otherwise K Davis *** If fit, otherwise Mayuka or an U21 forward Edit: I like Harry Reed and always try to get him into 'my' squad, but, injuries aside, it's difficult to see where he's going to get much opportunity as we're so strong (relatively) in midfield. Shame really, especially given he's often being touted as this year's "academy breakthrough" player. I'd note that you don't need Targett on the bench if you have Alderweireld and Clyne in the team and a CB to cover Alderweireld for when he goes to RB and Clyne to LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I'd note that you don't need Targett on the bench if you have Alderweireld and Clyne in the team and a CB to cover Alderweireld for when he goes to RB and Clyne to LB. Plus Yoshida will be bench if he doesn't start. Imagine both he and Gardos will fiigure on the bench, assuming Toby starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 A very tough game ahead and a must win game for Saints. Back to reality 0-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Hopefully a decent crowd to see one or two new debutants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Do this: -----------------------Forster---------------------- Clyne---------Fonte-------Aldeweireld-------Bertrand ----------------------Morgan----------------------- -------------Davis-------------JWP---------------- ---------Tadic--------------------------Mane------- -----------------------Pelle------------------------- bench: Boruc, Yoshida, Targett, Wanyama, Cork, Long, Gallagher/McQueen/Isgrove Tough on Yoshida as he's been good this season but I would hope that Aldeweireld is a step up and has been signed, as Koeman alluded to, for more than his defensive qualities so it makes sense to get him in. I would let Gardos start in the League Cup with Fonte and leave him out for now. With a home match against Toon I would throw Mane straight in. I view Long as cover for Pelle or as a player whose work and commitment provides an extra defensive element out wide/up front when needed but I think Koeman wants to grow the team with a proper direct ball carrier on one flank, swapping with Tadic. Against poor teams we could play Tadic at the top of midfield with Mane, Pelle and Long/Jay Rod as well. One thing that is clear is that we now have great strength in depth and loads of options as to how we shape up in each match. Forster (Boruc) Clyne (Toby) Bertrand (Targett) Fonte (Yoshida) Toby (Gardos) Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis / JWP / Cork / Reed Tadic / Mane / Rodriguez / Long / Isgrove Pelle / Long / Gallagher It would be a worry if Tadic got crocked but everywhere else that is probably the strongest Saints squad I've seen and still lots of youngish players. Ten English there, out of 24 (and two from the island of Ireland). i'm feeling optimistic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 -----------------------Forster---------------------- Clyne---------Fonte-------Aldeweireld-------Bertrand ----------------------Wanyama----------------------- -------------Davis-------------Morgan---------------- ---------Tadic--------------------------Mane------- -----------------------Pelle------------------------- bench: Boruc, Yoshida, Targett, JWP, Cork, Long, Gallagher/McQueen/Isgrove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 (edited) -----------------------Forster---------------------- Clyne---------Fonte-------Alderweireld-------Bertrand ----------------------Wanyama----------------------- -------------JWP-------------Schneiderlin---------------- ---------Tadić--------------------------Mané------- -----------------------Pellè------------------------- Bench: S.Davis, Boruc/K.Davis (depending on if his head's been reattached), Gardos, Long, Cork, Isgrove, Yoshida/Targett Edited 2 September, 2014 by JxgrSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 -----------------------Forster---------------------- Clyne---------Fonte-------Aldeweireld-------Bertrand ----------------------Wanyama----------------------- -------------Davis-------------Morgan---------------- ---------Tadic--------------------------Mane------- -----------------------Pelle------------------------- bench: Boruc, Yoshida, Targett, JWP, Cork, Long, Gallagher/McQueen/Isgrove Seconded... looks very strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 be a tough game. Like us, they have a fair few new players with a couple of them that look exciting Villa kept it tight and restricted newcastle to only a few chances need to keep that cabella chap quiet, he looks like he can be brilliant (as well as bad) 2-1 to saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 For me i'd bring in Cork for JWP, otherwise stick to the team that beat West Ham. New signings starting on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 4-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Looking forward to this, good opposition, new faces and should be a full house - cheap tickets for the Geordies will probably mean they'll have 3k down here. And a different kind of welcome for Pelle from the thick ***** this time, I guess. We're improving, home win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 We always seem to do well against Newcastle. Gaston tore them apart a few years ago, and we spanked them last season. They'll play on the break, but if we press them then I don't think they'll be able to deal with us. 2-0 saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 A very tough game ahead and a must win game for Saints. Back to reality 0-0 Zzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I'll go: -----------------Forster------------------------- Clyne-------Fonte----------Alderweireld-----------Bertrand -------------------Wanyama---------------------------------- ----------Cork--------------Schneiderlin-------------------- Long-------------------------------------------Tadic -------------------Pelle------------------------------------- Bench: Boruc, S.Davis, Yoshida, Mane, JWP, Gallagher, Targett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 I'll go: -----------------Forster------------------------- Clyne-------Fonte----------Alderweireld-----------Bertrand -------------------Wanyama---------------------------------- ----------Cork--------------Schneiderlin-------------------- Long-------------------------------------------Tadic -------------------Pelle------------------------------------- Bench: Boruc, S.Davis, Yoshida, Mane, JWP, Gallagher, Targett We're not going to play Schneiderlin, Cork and Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 Can't imagine Cork will start, and we are a much more attacking threat with an attacking midfielder in there instead of Wanyama - his inclusion at the expense of a more attacking player was the problem with creativity against West Brom. Alderweireld will almost certainly start, but it remains to be seen if he plays left centre back instead of Yoshida or his usual position of RCB... instead of Fonte. You'd also expect Gardos might start to feature soon - or not at all. Forster; Clyne, Alderweireld, Fonte/Yoshida/Gardos, Bertrand; Schneiderlin; Davis, Ward-Prowse; Tadic, Pelle, Long Subs: Boruc (I hope); 2 from Fonte/Yoshida/Gardos, Cork, Wanyama, Reed/Mayuka/Gallagher, Mane Feels weird not being able to plug in Gaston on the bench "just in case". Personally, I think the problem with creativity against West Brom was not specifically down to Wanyama. It was more to do with playing all four of Wanyama, Schneiderlin, JWP and Davis. In my view only 3 of these players can be selected to have balance/enough going forward. I would include Cork in that list... so it is 3 from 5. For me, the only one that has to start out of all of them is Schneiderlin. That leaves 2 from 4 of the others, which Koeman can select depending on the opposition. That said, I'd expect Koeman to go with your midfield 3 for this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 2 September, 2014 Share Posted 2 September, 2014 We're not going to play Schneiderlin, Cork and Wanyama. Agreed. Certainly not at home against a team we should be attacking and beating in a fairly routine manner. A max of two of those players for almost any game, I'd say. And in many home games, only one should feature... Schneiderlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Looking forward to this, good opposition, new faces and should be a full house - cheap tickets for the Geordies will probably mean they'll have 3k down here. And a different kind of welcome for Pelle from the thick ***** this time, I guess. We're improving, home win. well according to this - http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=4116120 Newcastle have 'sold out' 2300 tickets which I guess means they are only taking the smaller allocation and block 43 will be opened up to saints fans, shame as that seems to dilute the atmosphere a bit when that happens. I had a quick look on the saints ticket website and sales seem to be going well, not sure if that is due to the new found optimism of the fan base or the offer of family fun day but either way will be good to have a full house to welcome the new signings. I reckon it will be a tight 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 well according to this - http://mobile.nufc.co.uk/default.aspx?s=news-display&aid=4116120 Newcastle have 'sold out' 2300 tickets which I guess means they are only taking the smaller allocation and block 43 will be opened up to saints fans, shame as that seems to dilute the atmosphere a bit when that happens I'd imagine the club will offer them the full allocation if they've already sold out 2300 with the game still two weeks away. Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 I'd imagine the club will offer them the full allocation if they've already sold out 2300 with the game still two weeks away. Nice one. Who knows, but going by that article they're saying that their allocation is now completely sold out, with no mention of extra tickets going on sale. It would be ridiculous if we we offering block 43 on a sale no return basis to Newcastle as we're not going to sell out all our own blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Who's on international duty, and therefore an injury risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Fortster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Ward-Prowse Long Pelle Tadic Subs: Boruc, Yoshida, Gardos, Cork, Davis, Mane, Mayuka/Gallagher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Koeman's track record, even after just 3 games is evolution rather than revolution. My guess for the side against Newcastle is same starting XI as against West ham with just one change, which I think might be Gardos instead of Yoshida, who might drop out altogether. Aldeweireld and Mané on the bench with Wanyama and Cork plus Davis or Boruk. That leave two other places which I'll allow Koeman to fill..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Never change a winning side. But its down to how the training go over the next 2 weeks, utlimately. Might have been nice to have a friendly to accelerate the gelling. I reckon we could win comfortably. Toon are pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Fortster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Ward-Prowse Long Pelle Tadic Subs: Boruc, Yoshida, Gardos, Cork, Davis, Mane, Mayuka/Gallagher I agree that that's the team he'll probably play (or with Davis for JWP). It's a great team. BUT here's the team I'd personally like to see tried at some point: Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Mane Isgrove Pelle I think big Vic and Morgan strong enough to hold the midfield, while Tadic Mane and Isgrove would tear them apart. I know, I know. Isgrove. I just really rate him. Every time I've seen him play he's added something special. Blistering pace. I think he's a more exciting option than Shane Long right now, though I'm sure Long will come good. Play this team for a 4-2 win ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 I agree that that's the team he'll probably play (or with Davis for JWP). It's a great team. BUT here's the team I'd personally like to see tried at some point: Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Mane Isgrove Pelle I think big Vic and Morgan strong enough to hold the midfield, while Tadic Mane and Isgrove would tear them apart. I know, I know. Isgrove. I just really rate him. Every time I've seen him play he's added something special. Blistering pace. I think he's a more exciting option than Shane Long right now, though I'm sure Long will come good. Play this team for a 4-2 win ! Thats fighting talk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 I agree that that's the team he'll probably play (or with Davis for JWP). It's a great team. BUT here's the team I'd personally like to see tried at some point: Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Mane Isgrove Pelle I think big Vic and Morgan strong enough to hold the midfield, while Tadic Mane and Isgrove would tear them apart. I know, I know. Isgrove. I just really rate him. Every time I've seen him play he's added something special. Blistering pace. I think he's a more exciting option than Shane Long right now, though I'm sure Long will come good. Play this team for a 4-2 win ! I've not seen anything in Isgrove to think he will ever be anything more than a bit part player unfortunately. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Never change a winning side. But its down to how the training go over the next 2 weeks, utlimately. Might have been nice to have a friendly to accelerate the gelling. I reckon we could win comfortably. Toon are pants. Never change a winning side is nonsense, pick the side best equipped to win that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Never change a winning side is nonsense, pick the side best equipped to win that game. Well, I believe in it. At least I wouldnt change it just because of a signature or a return from injury. I'd want to see an argument for it on the training ground. Pity you decided to use such agression in your reponse. Nice to know its not something only I get accused of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 V Newcastle Same as West Ham but perhaps Wanyama for Davis. Over the season I'm guessing first choice team when ALL are fit FoRster Bertrand Gardos Alderweireld Clyne Morgan Wanyama Tadic Mane Pelle JRod Until JRod is fit Tadic out wide instead of more central with JWP or Davis Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 V Newcastle Same as West Ham but perhaps Wanyama for Davis. Over the season I'm guessing first choice team when ALL are fit FoRster Bertrand Gardos Alderweireld Clyne Morgan Wanyama Tadic Mane Pelle JRod Until JRod is fit Tadic out wide instead of more central with JWP or Davis Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not sure about your CB partnership. It may be strongest on paper, but unless he makes some right royal f**k ups, Fonte wont be dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Never change a winning side. But its down to how the training go over the next 2 weeks, utlimately. Might have been nice to have a friendly to accelerate the gelling. I reckon we could win comfortably. Toon are pants. Not much point having a gelling friendly when all the players we need to gel are away on international duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Can't see Yoshida holding his place, even though he was part of a winning side at Wet Spam, for two reasons - (1) his flapping boot did give away the goal, (2) he was in as cover for a first choice CB, who is now available. If Gardos is fit and is the LCB, then because Koeman has had a couple of weeks to assess him, I'd expect him to play ahead of Alderweireld who is primarily a RCB when not playing RB. I agree with Alpine, that we should win this one, hopefully by a clear margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Well, I believe in it. At least I wouldnt change it just because of a signature or a return from injury. I'd want to see an argument for it on the training ground. Pity you decided to use such agression in your reponse. Nice to know its not something only I get accused of. I'm not sure saying nonsense is aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Not much point having a gelling friendly when all the players we need to gel are away on international duty. Are Senegall playing ? Romania arent playing. I dont know if Tadic and Pelle have been called up. Surely we are only talking about Toby ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Not sure about your CB partnership. It may be strongest on paper, but unless he makes some right royal f**k ups, Fonte wont be dropped. Agree with this, Fonte should be starting. Boruc Clyne, Fonte, Gardos, Bertrand Schneiderlin Mane, Davis, JWP, Tadic Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 I'm pretty sure the only change will be Toby for Yoshida. The bench could look like this: Boruc, Mane, Gardos, Wanyama, Yoshida, Gallagher (if fit) That's a pretty handy bench, when you consider that Jay will be added to that sooner rather than later too. A bench of regular internationals, bar Gallagher (well, U21's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Are Senegall playing ? Romania arent playing. I dont know if Tadic and Pelle have been called up. Surely we are only talking about Toby ? Pelle hasn't, Tadic has. Senegal have ANC qualifiers against Egypt and Botswana (not necessarily in that order) to be played on the 5th and 10th September. Yoshida has gone to Japan, Morgan has 2 games on Thursday and then Sunday, Forster probably won't play for England, Davis and Long will be with their respective Irish sides I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 September, 2014 Share Posted 3 September, 2014 Romania are playing. I thought Pelle was going to be in the Provisional Italy squad? I take it he didn't make the cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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