JWP

Interested on people's views. Do we see JWP as a creator? If so in what sense? Could we see him beat a man, or a through ball, set pieces...could we be the next Beckham style player? He is certainly technically very good and has a wise head on those shoulders.

What do we think ?

Hopefully we can fleece a top 6 club for £15mill come 2015.

Amazing setpieces, lacks a yard of pace and needs to develop a good footballing brain to make up for it (he's impressive for his age but still needs to know which pass to make). I really like him as a player though.

I see him as a Pirlo type player. Both in his physicality, and the main attributes of his game (cracking set-pieces, good passing). But he obviously needs to work on his game more, his decision making needs to improve, as does his tempo in faster played games.

He kind of seemed lost in what position he wanted to play in last season, but hopefully under Koeman, he can reach the potential he quite clearly has.

He'll be a very special player in a couple of years, not sure he's quite up to it just yet. One for the future.

As i said with Morgan when he first started his career we have a very, very special player on our hands here. Let him develop in the right way, keep the pressure of his back and don't sell him too early and we potentially have a future England captain and player of the same kind of standard as Paul Scholes.

I just hope that being in the premier league doesn't ruin that, since one of the benefits Morgan had was being out the limelight long enough to develop his game properly, and by the time he hit the premier league he was just refining the things he was already good at.

Once he figures out which position he wants to play in, we'll have one heck of a player on our hands who England can ignore until Liverpool/Arsenal/Man United buy him for £25m before he mysteriously becomes good enough for the national team.

Seriously though, his set pieces are fantastic, but he always seems to look to slow play down. I think he's got the ability to play as a more attacking midfielder if he gets the right prompts from the management; at the moment he's too cautious.

The Sunday Times reporter was singing his praises in the West Ham game, describing him as "excellent" and giving him the same mark as Sxhneiderlin.

A lot of people criticise him for not being able to beat a man and lacking pace, both shortcomings levelled at David Beckham, and he didn't turn out to be bad.

I'm not claiming JWP is the next Beckham, but you don't need to be a mazy dribbler or Usain Bolt to open up defences.

Beckham made a career out of using the ball well and JWP does that.

Ahhhhhh a proper football thread

To steal a line off another poster (Can't remember who it was) This is a big year for JWP. He needs to work out who and what sort of player he is.

I don't think his talent is in doubt, but it is now where he applies it. We saw him get muscled out against West Brom, so everybody decided he couldn't play that role...... I watched a certain Mr lallana come up against that constant criticism two years (Maybe even 18 months) ago and he learnt to deal with it (football is not all about brute strength) so who is say that JWP won't?

I wish him well and have a sneaky feeling, he will develop into a cultured International.

A lot of people criticise him for not being able to beat a man and lacking pace, both shortcomings levelled at David Beckham, and he didn't turn out to be bad.

A lot of saints fans thought that Morgan wasn't as good as Paul Wooton, a lot of saints fans thought Papa Waigo was the second coming, a lot saints fans thought Billy Sharp was good enough to be a premier league striker and that Lee Barnard was anything more than a lower championship player.

A lot of football fans don't know very much about football.

Needs the forward line to make more runs into the channels or off the shoulder of the last defender, IMO. Plus the confidence to play that killer ball.

As with most young players establishing themselves, JWP will benefit greatly from having a solid working team around him. Hopefully Koeman will provide this and help JWP unlock his full potential...

I think JWP is better playing in a slightly deeper role in a 3 alongside two more defensive players so he can have the freedom to roam in front of them. Like a deeper #10.

Clearly he'll be an excellent player, just needs to develop as a player in his own time - we can't rush him.

A lot of saints fans thought that Morgan wasn't as good as Paul Wooton, a lot of saints fans thought Papa Waigo was the second coming, a lot saints fans thought Billy Sharp was good enough to be a premier league striker and that Lee Barnard was anything more than a lower championship player.

 

A lot of football fans don't know very much about football.

:lol::lol:

Can't argue with that

I too think he will be a very special player. He is definitely benefiting from staying with us as he needs to be playing and at this stage in his development and this would not be guaranteed at a bigger club. I see him as a set piece specialist. I also seeing him as developing into a very effective play maker. Probably not unlike Beckam in some ways. I really think he could become better than him though.

Noticed at West Ham he was playing some very clever little passes in the last third and wasn't far off scoring on a couple of occasions.

Too lightweight at the moment.

A lot of saints fans thought that Morgan wasn't as good as Paul Wooton, a lot of saints fans thought Papa Waigo was the second coming, a lot saints fans thought Billy Sharp was good enough to be a premier league striker and that Lee Barnard was anything more than a lower championship player.

 

A lot of football fans don't know very much about football.

LOL beer on the screen

We all know about his set pieces, but really, when the rest of the team begin to utilize them to their full potential, the goals they bring will give him more luxury of playing time to develope the rest of his skills in the eyes of the more fickle fans.

Got the assist in the England under 21s 0-1 win tonight

But Kane, a 64th minute substitute, nodded in James Ward-Prowse's inch-perfect cross to seal victory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29047087

Technically gifted - just needs some PL experience and toughness that a couple more years will give him for free. He will end up at a top 4 club I suspect.

I've got no doubt he'll end up as a quality player. He's only 19, in three years time he'll still be a young CM but he'll get better and better the more he plays. He already has a massive amount of technical ability, more than plenty in this division will ever have, and the physical side will come. Like with Morgan who took a few years to really learn to apply his ability properly, JWP will steadily become more effective the more he can assert himself on games. I struggle to think of another club's fans that would regard such a talented young local lad with the indifference seen on here. Future England international I would say.

19 years old, 3rd season in the PL, and an U21 International. That says it all in my book. Great prospect and a very level-headed lad - until he gets tapped up on England duty of course.

I think he will be our next Captain, and a future England captain.

I'm hoping that, because of his background, he will see that life is about more than just money and stick it out with us. We shall see.

I think he will be our next Captain

I admire your optimism that he'll be here that long!

I am even more optimistic. I think Morgan will be our next captain.

Steven Davis MkII with a better dead ball delivery.

Great lad. Met him at the PFA awards this year. Really modest and intelligent ... and very focused on improving

I'm happy to be patient with him as age is on his side, he has so much potential. The more he plays, the better he will become.

Oh and how about singing a different song for him instead of the one to the tune of "Kum ba ya my lord" ?

I would prefer the one to the tune of "Our house", by Madness.......like the one for Claus Lundekvam a few years ago.

"Ward Prowse......in the middle of midfield"

Any thoughts on the alternative?

Steven Davis MkII with a better dead ball delivery.

I would say thi is about right. But hopefully as JWP develops he will find the back of the net a bit more regularly than Davis.

I also think that Saints seem to have better shape in midfield when only one of SD and JWP are on the pitch, but perhaps that's just me.

I'm happy to be patient with him as age is on his side, he has so much potential. The more he plays, the better he will become.

 

Oh and how about singing a different song for him instead of the one to the tune of "Kum ba ya my lord" ?

 

I would prefer the one to the tune of "Our house", by Madness.......like the one for Claus Lundekvam a few years ago.

 

"Ward Prowse......in the middle of midfield"

 

Any thoughts on the alternative?

James Michael Edward Ward Prowse

His name is my name too

Whenever I go out

The people always shout

There goes James Michael Edward Ward Prowse na na na na na na na

James Michael Edward Ward Prowse

His name is my name too

Whenever I go out

The people always shout

There goes James Michael Edward Ward Prowse na na na na na na na

That is some midfield!

Yeah, 5 in midfield away against the top sides is often a good shout.

A lot of saints fans thought that Morgan wasn't as good as Paul Wooton, a lot of saints fans thought Papa Waigo was the second coming, a lot saints fans thought Billy Sharp was good enough to be a premier league striker and that Lee Barnard was anything more than a lower championship player.

 

A lot of football fans don't know very much about football.

A lot of saints fans thought Lambert would make it too when the so called experts didn't so what does that make the experts. Actually a lot of Saints fans also didn't think Wotton was better than Morgan or the Papa Waigo was the next Arjen Robben (by the way Chelsea didn't fancy him but Bayern and Holland did) . Also many fans (and some managers) were divided on the likes of Lallana, Dyer and Puncheon making it at the top level!

The truth is it is not easy to spot who will and who wont make it at any level and even the so called experts make mistakes! You are very selective in the statistics you use thus allowing you to draw the conclusions about Saints fans that you want!

I have been very optimistic of our direction since the appointment of Roko, and tried to encourage the pessimistic on here that we will be ok, we are still heading in the right direction, lots of drama to come! but with a good new coach and new players fitting in we can only improve as we gel and new players get used to the PL.

I have seen the future, we all have, I just didn’t understand the importance of this young man. JWP is the new Mr. Saint, the one that will lead our new generation of academy products into the light of the poaching CL clubs. If he can fulfill his potential, continue his progression into the English national team then he will be the next to be tempted away.

JWP must be given time to mature, he doesn’t have the luxury of honing his skills in the lower divisions like lalla, spidy, clyne. Etc…..he will have to prove himself against the world class players. Tough task, but his academy coaches, English Intl. youth managers, Mopo and Roko have seen enough to put this boy in the starting 11. I have to trust their judgment, the fans need to get behind him and support him because he could be the leader of our next golden generation.

We have heard good things about our academy products, many on the verge of first team football, if this is the case (our academy coaching has been right so far) then they must be good, very good but are still very young! Most good footballers are maturing into their skills around their early 20’s, that leaves a few years for our academy products to ripen into the type of players that are confident in their game.

With patient integration with our established foreign players we will continue to have a sustainable model. If the stars line up just right and we manage to hold onto our best players for a few years to let this team mature into it's full potential, we may win a cup or reach that top 6.

The future is still bright, the future is red and white!