Wiggles31 Posted 27 November, 2014 Author Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Love that because we drew away at Villa we are now on a downward spiral. Still predicting an entertaining draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Who is the ref? Could have a significant impact as there are some who follow the unwritten rule of favouring the big clubs with all 50/50 decisions. It's going to be high tempo and very tasty. If we get an even handed and impartial referee I think our fitness and team spirit will see us remain 2nd after the game and shut up the nay sayers for a few more days. At least a draw I reckon. A win would be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Love that because we drew away at Villa we are now on a downward spiral. Still predicting an entertaining draw. didn't they draw with QPR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessex saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I'm still rather bemused that we haven't yet sold out for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Monday evening we played #2 son's team, Sunday we play the wife's team. Good job Bolton ( daughter ) & Blackpool ( #1 son ) are a division below us. That's an odd spread of teams... How did that happen!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 One of their posters thinks that the game is on Saturday. If only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 That's an odd spread of teams... How did that happen!? sounds like badger has failed in his main duty of fatherhood; brainwashing children into supporting saints. SFC should publish a pamphlet or something! Badger cubs are slipping through our fingers yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Cork Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Pelle Mane Like Davis but think we need the 3 high energy tackling midfielders to get at them and not give any space. Only have a chance if Tadic has a good game and opens them up really. You'd think we can make chances. They won't get many, but obviously they'll probably take what they do get. First goal is huge. If we get it, I really don't see them coming back. You don't think Davis fits the description "high energy tackling midfielder"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 1-1 last season, with a weaker team and Gazzaniga in goal. There are point/s to be had in this one. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Chatting with a group of Villa supporters on the way back to the car on Monday night, their consensus was that we played with an eye on the the City game. They were very well aware of our upcoming fixtures. That was not how I saw it, but it is interesting to see how other supporters see things. Certainly how i saw it. Tadic was distracted all game and Pelle scared to get stuck in in case he got a booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Who is the ref? Could have a significant impact as there are some who follow the unwritten rule of favouring the big clubs with all 50/50 decisions. It's going to be high tempo and very tasty. If we get an even handed and impartial referee I think our fitness and team spirit will see us remain 2nd after the game and shut up the nay sayers for a few more days. At least a draw I reckon. A win would be epic. Mike Jones. Him that went down like a sack of sh it at Newcastle last year. The best "Bale" of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigsy Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Not in the same way for me. More composed, better passer most the time and I'd pick him ahead of Cork if we were playing a lesser side than Man City. Plus he's been injured, and a good option from the bench. Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Cork Wanyama Schneiderlin Tadic Pelle Mane Like Davis but think we need the 3 high energy tackling midfielders to get at them and not give any space. Only have a chance if Tadic has a good game and opens them up really. You'd think we can make chances. They won't get many, but obviously they'll probably take what they do get. First goal is huge. If we get it, I really don't see them coming back. If Davis is fit he should be one of the first on the team sheet, think that was clearly demonstrated on Monday night. Assume what you mean from the bit in bold is that every chance they get they will score, so you are not expecting Forster to make any saves from on target chances. I'm not wholly convinced by FF yet, but I do hope that he will make some saves. His success rate is still about 75% of saves for on target chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place. Exactly that, and thankfully its what I expect we'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I will be sat with the Kenyan Saints for this match up. Getting a large following over here now too. Yuki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=308054&start=30 Some claiming we're declining due to performance against Villa. If they say so... They're Man city you probably could count on one hand the number of clubs they think are better than them and we certainly won't be one of them. The general feeling from their fans that they just have to turn up to win always makes getting a result against them much more fun and if we lose..............well it's man city isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Davis should, and will, start if fit. Last thing to do against City is completely sit back. We need to play our normal game and go back to the system that has got us up to 2nd in the first place. If he's a 100% fit i'd agree. If he's any less i'd prefer Cork to play and Davis eased back in from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 Only a small sample of games, but they are ridiculous stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 I know some are going to say 'shows how important Cork is' and then others will reply 'but it was only against blah blah blah'. But what a great stat for Jack himself, not conceding a goal and averaging 3.5 goals per game when he's in the side. I for one will be very sad if this is Jack's final season with us, great professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 The thing is we have four really good centre mids (plus JWP and Reed as back up) you can argue which is the best three combo but the reality is we are probably going to have to rotate them over the coming few weeks with so many games. The argument is Jack Cork is the worst of the three but really does anyone say "oh ****" when they see him name on the team sheet? Any combination of Morgan, Victor, Jack or Steven is a ****ing good midfield. Considering how much running our midfield gets through I'd have no problem with players getting a rest on the bench as long as three of those four players are on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyork Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 (edited) Corks premier league starts this season..... makes interesting reading Played 4 Won 4 Goals for 14 Goals Against 0 Goals scored 2 Only a small sample of games, but they are ridiculous stats. Am I wrong (quite conceivable, apologies if so) in thinking Corky started against Newcastle & Sunderland? Likely to skew the stats a little bit. Edited 27 November, 2014 by KelvinsRightGlove flipping autocorrect Stats not Stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there Sorry, are you suggesting Corky or Vic in the #10 role? Good players as they are, but they aint 10's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I think cork could do a good job against City in the number 10. Thinking about it I would be happy with any of the 3 , Jack , Victor or morgen playing there I'm not sure if you quite understand what a number 10 role is in that case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Am I wrong (quite conceivable, apologies if so) in thinking Corky started against Newcastle & Sunderland? Likely to skew the stars a little bit. You can only beat the teams in front of you (and a lot of teams would take our comprehensive win over Newcastle given their recent form). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I'm not sure if you quite understand what a number 10 role is in that case! Cork did pretty well in the hole for the 20-odd minutes he played it when he came on as sub earlier in the season (and scored), not sure I'd want him and his awful shooting in there for a whole match though, but if we want a combative midfield and Davis isn't fit then him, Schneiderlin and Wanyama would be the way to go, with them pushing forward in rotation to make them difficult to pick up. None of them are exactly through ball threaders, though Schneiderlin can pick a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I think we probably all agree that either Cork or Davis should come in for Mane or Long and revert to the shape that has served us so well so far. Main question is, which one comes in and which goes out. If Davis is fit, I think it's got to be him and in this game I would start Long (offers more defensively) with Mane as an impact sub. Forster, Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand, Wanyama Schniederlin Davis, Long Pelle Tadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 You can only beat the teams in front of you (and a lot of teams would take our comprehensive win over Newcastle given their recent form). Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not taking a pop at Corky. You're right of course, but the 14 goals for stat is mostly due to the oppo being so poor in the other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Davis Wanyama Schneiderlin Long Pelle Tadic I would play Davis if 100% fit, Cork if not. Long instead of Mane as in better form at present. I also think Tadic has been less effective in recent games when played on the right to allow Mane to play on the left. So I'd have Tadic back on the left where he was so good in earlier games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Mane over Long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyork Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 against a team like city we can afford a deeper number 10. the role demands attacking intent but also plenty of movement. I think some people misunderstand that the position does not need to be all out attack but an occupation of space. if we play are usual 3 up front this is a good option as we have seen before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Mane over Long. Nah, we need Long's work rate and ability to annoy the opposition in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. Has Wanyama ever played against Toure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I think we probably all agree that either Cork or Davis should come in for Mane or Long and revert to the shape that has served us so well so far. Main question is, which one comes in and which goes out. If Davis is fit, I think it's got to be him and in this game I would start Long (offers more defensively) with Mane as an impact sub. Forster, Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand, Wanyama Schniederlin Davis, Long Pelle Tadic Agreed, that's what I'd go with for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Victor was injured and missed the home match last season and away, he came on for the last 10 mins , just in time for their 4th goal. 2 seasons ago he was playing for Celtic. Good theory otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. The highlight for me was when Morgan flicked the ball over his head, not once, but twice, and left him on a heap in the ground Genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 The worst thing to do would be to go out all guns blazing and concede an early goal. I suggest we sit back and try and hit them on the counter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 The worst thing to do would be to go out all guns blazing and concede an early goal. I suggest we sit back and try and hit them on the counter. Yeah. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Toure has been crap the last 2 seasons against Saints. I don't think he likes playing against Vic. Stop him playing and we have a chance. Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed? Ah well never mind toadie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=308054&start=30 Some claiming we're declining due to performance against Villa. If they say so... To be fair, there's an awful lot of them acknowledging that this will be a difficult game for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Second trip to St Mary's this season. The trains are up the shoot so it will take longer than normal to travel from Kent, but who cares The Lad & I are buzzing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Wasn't it last season that VW did the job on him and Toure got subbed? Wasn't that Cork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Interesting reading the report of last seasons home game again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174 For about 2 minutes Osvaldo actually looked like the signing we all thought he was going to be teams for last time out below Southampton 25 Gazzaniga 22 Chambers 23 Shaw 16 Ward-Prowse 06 Fonte 05 Lovren 20 Lallana (Ramírez - 85' ) 18 Cork 17 Osvaldo (Lambert - 77' ) 08 Davis (Reed - 90' ) 09 Rodriguez Substitutes 03 Yoshida 07 Lambert 10 Ramírez 26 Hooiveld 38 Reed 40 Gallagher 41 Cropper Manchester City 30 Pantilimon 05 Zabaleta 13 Kolarov 25 Fernandinho 04 Kompany 26 Demichelis 07 Milner (Javi García - 62' ) 42 Y Touré (Dzeko - 79' ) 16 Agüero Booked 09 Negredo (Jesús Navas - 62' ) 08 Nasri Booked Substitutes 01 Hart 02 Richards 06 Lescott 10 Dzeko 14 Javi García 15 Jesús Navas 22 Clichy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Interesting reading the report of last seasons home game again http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25164174 For about 2 minutes Osvaldo actually looked like the signing we all thought he was going to be teams for last time out below Southampton 25 Gazzaniga 22 Chambers 23 Shaw 16 Ward-Prowse 06 Fonte 05 Lovren 20 Lallana (Ramírez - 85' ) 18 Cork 17 Osvaldo (Lambert - 77' ) 08 Davis (Reed - 90' ) 09 Rodriguez Substitutes 03 Yoshida 07 Lambert 10 Ramírez 26 Hooiveld 38 Reed 40 Gallagher 41 Cropper Manchester City 30 Pantilimon 05 Zabaleta 13 Kolarov 25 Fernandinho 04 Kompany 26 Demichelis 07 Milner (Javi García - 62' ) 42 Y Touré (Dzeko - 79' ) 16 Agüero Booked 09 Negredo (Jesús Navas - 62' ) 08 Nasri Booked Substitutes 01 Hart 02 Richards 06 Lescott 10 Dzeko 14 Javi García 15 Jesús Navas 22 Clichy Only 1 of those 14 players played for us on Monday. Weird to think really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Only 1 of those 14 players played for us on Monday. Weird to think really 2 if you count Corks 2 minutes but you look at that team who out played City last season and you have to say this seasons team look a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 2 if you count Corks 2 minutes but you look at that team who out played City last season and you have to say this seasons team look a lot better. Oh yeah, forgot about that. Still, frightening how many games Gazzaniga/Fox/Hooiveld played last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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