Kneejerk Mk Dons build-up

We saw last season in the cups that Koeman takes them seriously and even more so given that we have no European games. I reckon J-Rod and Caulker will probably start though, maybe a couple of changes in midfield but it'll still be a strong side and one that will comfortably win.

Anyway, I'm over from oz and intend to go to this match. I'm thinking that I should be able to walk up for a ticket. Anyway know any different?

 

(I walked 5 miles to find a friggin pub with sky sports to watch a pretty crap 2nd half display despite a decently worked goal to give us a chance at the end. Didn't realise there's so few pubs showing sky these days...)

tpbury - I am also over from OZ (just over the bridge from you) on holidays - and as I couldn't get a ticket for the Saints v Man U I travelled out to WHL to see the Spuds v Palace. Left at half time and walked to Seven Sisters Tube - one stop to Finsbury Park, and managed to find a great pub "Worlds End" showing the Saints game. Most other pubs in the area and seemingly throughout London at the moment are showing the Rugby World Cup. Anyway have a great trip - enjoy the MK Dons game and safe trip home.

We'll probably lose, this team is dogsh!te at the moment.

Gazza

Martina Yoshida Caulker Targett

JWP Romeu

Long Juanmi JRod

Pelle

some youngsters on the bench ideally.

Gazza

Martina Yoshida Caulker Targett

 

JWP Romeu

 

Long Juanmi JRod

 

Pelle

 

some youngsters on the bench ideally.

Would quite like to see JWP in his best position too actually - good shout.

I'd like to see us play without Pelle, so if/when he get's injured/suspended in the league we have some game time with a plan B.

I'd like to see us play without Pelle, so if/when he get's injured/suspended in the league we have some game time with a plan B.

Yes this. Despite by "First team or ****ing dont bother" yesterday, it should be "first team but rest Pelle and Vic or dont ****ing bother" TBH.

@bigadamsport: #saintsfc Ronald Koeman will include Ryan Bertrand in squad for @CapitalOne_Cup trip at #MKDons after he played 45mins for U21's last night

@bigadamsport: #saintsfc striker Graziano Pelle 'not 100%' says RK - but hopeful he'll travel to #MKDons after missing training today

@bigadamsport: #saintsfc Ronald Koeman will include Ryan Bertrand in squad for @CapitalOne_Cup trip at #MKDons after he played 45mins for U21's last night

 

@bigadamsport: #saintsfc striker Graziano Pelle 'not 100%' says RK - but hopeful he'll travel to #MKDons after missing training today

Good news on both counts there. Ryan cant start, no way as he looked ****ed after 45 mins last night. He might get a 15 min cameo if we are cruising. And as above, Pelle needs some time off and we need to see what Jay, Long or Mane can do if they are called upon.

I think we know how we play with Long up front on his own and I don't think anyone wants that again. Jay would be an interesting option as long as we play differently and don't expect him to be like Pelle. The problem is all our forward thinking players like to play off Pelle and I don't see Jay as that type of striker. Maybe put Jay up front with someone and see what happens?

I think we know how we play with Long up front on his own and I don't think anyone wants that again. Jay would be an interesting option as long as we play differently and don't expect him to be like Pelle. The problem is all our forward thinking players like to play off Pelle and I don't see Jay as that type of striker. Maybe put Jay up front with someone and see what happens?

This really,. Jay and Long, Jay and Juanmi, Jay and Mane, Jay and Seager...

Good news on both counts there. Ryan cant start, no way as he looked ****ed after 45 mins last night. He might get a 15 min cameo if we are cruising. And as above, Pelle needs some time off and we need to see what Jay, Long or Mane can do if they are called upon.

Yeah, if Pelle is carrying a knock, why would we even risk him? Jay Rod up top possibly?

Surely, Juanmi is going to get a go in this one? And a right back playing right back, ta.

Surely, Juanmi is going to get a go in this one? And a right back playing right back, ta.

Yeah, you would have thought most of the subs from Sunday would get game-time.

Gazza

Martina Yoshida Caulker Targett

Would be our worst back 5 in many many years if that's what RK goes with.

We'll probably lose, this team is dogsh!te at the moment.

Yeah, no point in turning up.

Would be our worst back 5 in many many years if that's what RK goes with.

Now that would be playing a weakened team.

have no idea why Martina is here

the type of signing sunderland or villa would make

Would be our worst back 5 in many many years if that's what RK goes with.

You wouldn't have said that if you went to Stevenage.

Gazzaniga in goal, Shaw (debut, and his defending was shaky), Seaborne, Richardson, Butterfield. And we won 4-1.

have no idea why Martina is here

 

the type of signing sunderland or villa would make

Is it? A 2 year contract for a bloke to fill in across the back 4 at a time when Bertrand and Gardos were injured, Caulker and Van Dijk weren't yet Saints players and we didn't have another right back other than Cedric.

Sunderland would have signed a Man U reserve and Villa some kid no-one's heard of who can't defend (and we already had one of those, hoho).

I'm still not sure why people think he was bad on Sunday tbh, I must have missed something. He was also a hundred times better than he was on his debut out of position at left back, too. However, I'm over that, as he's been decent enough since.

You wouldn't have said that if you went to Stevenage.

 

Gazzaniga in goal, Shaw (debut, and his defending was shaky), Seaborne, Richardson, Butterfield. And we won 4-1.

And a Tadanari Lee goal, to boot.

Gazza was excellent in that match. He didn't have much goalkeeping to do but he strolled around nonchalantly, took an age over goalkicks and supplied exactly the right amount of Latino swagger to look faintly ridiculous and competent at the same time. Cracking stuff.

It was Shaw's first start but he had previously played against Milwall in the FA Cup (so I think that would be his "debut"). Talking of dodgy defences, Danny Fox played centre back in that match against Milwall and looked much better than at full-back!

Let's hope the defence pull themselves together

Would be our worst back 5 in many many years if that's what RK goes with.

Yes, but we are playing MK Dons and we really should be able to deal with them. If we don't does it really matter ?

We'll probably lose, this team is dogsh!te at the moment.

Knob

Had a brief chat with a customer based in Milton Keynes earlier, they've lost their last 4 games despite playing on, but a bit low on confidence and the promotion high has well and truly worn off now.

As mentioned earlier on here their manager has come out saying he doesn't care about the game, perhaps feeling the pressure of a bad run and setting expectations low for this game.

Not a suggestion but just another guess at what RK might start with:-

Stek

Soares, Caulker, Van Dijk, Targett

Romeu, Wanyama

JRod, Davis

Long, Juanmi

The sooner we get our proper back 3 playing together the better imo.

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150922-mk-dons-southampton-capital-one-cup-tickets-2704452.aspx

Pay on the night tomorrow - guess we never cleared the initial 2,500 allocation?

Any chance of a surprise Ramirez appearance?

NONE

looking at the weekend

Swansea have made 10 changes from the side sat just gone

have no idea why Martina is here

 

the type of signing sunderland or villa would make

Because he is cheap and Ron's brother recommended him. Didn't look too bad on Sunday.

guessing this game isn't televised?

looks like saints player is coming out

Because he is cheap and Ron's brother recommended him. Didn't look too bad on Sunday.

He was ****

Back defence with Martina, Caulker, Targett starting.

 

JWP and Davis as CM's.

 

OMFG

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150922-mk-dons-southampton-capital-one-cup-tickets-2704452.aspx

 

Pay on the night tomorrow - guess we never cleared the initial 2,500 allocation?

Sold over 2 thousand.

OMFG

Our Midfielders Forego Goalscoring?

You wouldn't have said that if you went to Stevenage.

 

Gazzaniga in goal, Shaw (debut, and his defending was shaky), Seaborne, Richardson, Butterfield. And we won 4-1.

I think it's still a close-run thing..........Martina is absolutely baffling...the fact that Maya started ahead of both him and Soares on Sunday speaks volumes.....

Butterfield, Richardson, Dodd, Baird, are all better than Martina. What's he point in him? Absolutely appalling footballer.

Butterfield, Richardson, Dodd, Baird, are all better than Martina. What's he point in him? Absolutely appalling footballer.

Didn't we pay £3m for him?

People bang on about Osvaldo and Ramirez but all the small fees add up to i.e Gardos and Martina

Didn't we pay £3m for him?

 

People bang on about Osvaldo and Ramirez but all the small fees add up to i.e Gardos and Martina

I refuse to believe that Martina is better than Jack Stephens...who we shipped out for the season for this clown

thrown un Mayuka and forren into that

Sunderland are out.

That's our name on the cup, boys.

My guess at tomorrow's line-up (not what I would play):

-----------------Stek----------------

Cedric-----Fonte----Cauker--Martina

--------Wanyama-------Romeu--------

----------------Davis------------------

JWP-----------------------------JRod

---------------Long-------------------

Given Cedric didnt really play the European games and has been subbed after 70mins a couple of times I wonder if he starts tomorrow if it is a sign he won't on Saturday?

Given Cedric didnt really play the European games and has been subbed after 70mins a couple of times I wonder if he starts tomorrow if it is a sign he won't on Saturday?

What if he's taken off at half time or after 60 mins?

What if he's taken off at half time or after 60 mins?

Not sure. There isn't much recovery time and there is obviously an issue with him physically that they are keen to build up his game time and not overdo it.

Wouldn't be suprised if Martina plays RB.

Similar with Bertrand, not sure if he is in the frame for Saturday, but I guess not if he plays tomorrow.

Not sure. There isn't much recovery time and there is obviously an issue with him physically that they are keen to build up his game time and not overdo it.

 

Wouldn't be suprised if Martina plays RB.

 

Similar with Bertrand, not sure if he is in the frame for Saturday, but I guess not if he plays tomorrow.

Fair enough. I think the photo of Cedric in the gym with his protein shake was a pretty sure sign he's been told to beef up.

I agree about Bertrand too. I think Swansea will be a week too soon.

Didn't we pay £3m for him?

 

People bang on about Osvaldo and Ramirez but all the small fees add up to i.e Gardos and Martina

1m for Martina.

Teams through this evening:

Aston Villa, Stoke, Hull, Leicester, Middlesbrough, Man City, Everton, Bournemouth.

1m for Martina.

Don't forget forren.

Martina is far worse than frazer Richardson to be fair. Awful signing. Now Cedric and Byram and you'd have two good options there.

Let's not pretend we would contemplate spending £8-10m on a second choice RB. Gripe about Martina, by all means, but don't pretend Byram was ever an alternative.