VIDEO: Les Reed on Ronald Koeman's future

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Reed: “We’re now at the point of getting down to the details of the contract, which is where the agents and lawyers get involved.”

Didn't expect to see an interview like that today.

So far, so good.

(Did I detect an in-direct shot at Pardew near the beginning?)

Reed: “We’re now at the point of getting down to the details of the contract, which is where the agents and lawyers get involved.”

And positive at the moment

Timely video given the recent rumours and also today's news that RK has a new agent. I can't help but feel it still mirrors Clyne's situation last year RE: "talks progressing well". Hopefully the club are pretty confident in Koeman, and that they have aligned their ambitions before today, hence the agents only getting involved this week.

Timely video given the recent rumours and also today's news that RK has a new agent. I can't help but feel it still mirrors Clyne's situation last year RE: "talks progressing well". Hopefully the club are pretty confident in Koeman, and that they have aligned their ambitions before today, hence the agents only getting involved this week.

Lets hope Liverpool don't make Koeman an offer then.

 

(Did I detect an in-direct shot at Pardew near the beginning?)

Paraphrasing: "We want a manager who buys into the vision of the club, we've had three who had that."

Yeah, can see how that could be interpreted!!

I'm taking all this as very positive. The club must be confident he's going to sign otherwise posting that video and all the other signposts they have set up over the past few days is going to make them look bloody stupid if he doesn't.

We were looking for a manager to buy into the culture of the club

the last 3 managers have had that

Ronald ticked all the boxes

we recruited him under the radar, few headlines

we quietly get on with the job

Ronald buys into that, he is a good coach and good tactician

He has done a great job

talks are ongoing all of the time

conversations are always on about the future

we are building towards the transfer window

we want to retain the core of the side and the contract being extended show the start of that

no point talking about money for players unless all are on the same page

getting down to nitty gritty, details of the contract are with lawyers and co

that is where we are

Ronald's agent wouldn't be coming over in the next couple of days if Ronald hadn't signalled to his agent that his talks about the direction/ambition of the club had gone well and left him being up for signing a contract extension.

That's my take on it, anyway.

Would have preferred that didn't happen. Better to say nothing until it's done. Almost pandering to the loons on this forum there, Leslie.

Ronald's agent wouldn't be coming over in the next couple of days if Ronald hadn't signalled to his agent that his talks about the direction/ambition of the club had gone well and left him being up for signing a contract extension.

 

That's my take on it, anyway.

*Keeping everything crossed*

The three managers bit was brilliant though. Les, you minx.

The three managers bit was brilliant though. Les, you minx.

Could be equally understood as the three managers before RK, the way Les then said Ronald "ticked all the right boxes".

Didn't he do an interview where he was confident of Pochettino and Clyne signing new deals?

Didn't he do an interview where he was confident of Pochettino and Clyne signing new deals?

Yeah and he also did one about being confident about signing up a top manager back in the summer of 2014.

That went okay and he's talking about the same bloke now.

Could be equally understood as the three managers before RK, the way Les then said Ronald "ticked all the right boxes".

Stop ruining it.

On another note, the video above sounds like it could be part of a bigger one too.

Hopefully we'll see that soon too. Probably talking about the season in general.

Paraphrasing: "We want a manager who buys into the vision of the club, we've had three who had that."

 

Yeah, can see how that could be interpreted!!

Possibly. Or maybe the "had" refers to the previous 3 managers.

Edit: Shurlock beat me to it.

My natural state of mind on anything like this is one of pessimism. That way, if this turns out to be a 'get it out in the open' last roll of the dice by Reed to convince Koeman to stay and it fails, then I won't be as disappointed had I approached it with optimism.

Overall it's a nice interview, but why can't Les respond to the initial question "how impressed have you been with Koeman" with a straight answer "very impressed"? And then continue to ay everything else. It seems slightly arrogant to me, like Les and his team want to take the credit themselves and not give too much to Koeman.

Overall it's a nice interview, but why can't Les respond to the initial question "how impressed have you been with Koeman" with a straight answer "very impressed"? And then continue to ay everything else. It seems slightly arrogant to me, like Les and his team want to take the credit themselves and not give too much to Koeman.

Yeah a lot of waffle masking a positive but non committal statement.

I know it's positive but I can't help thinking about the Clyne stuff last summer and how well that was going. I'm with those who would have preferred this not to be in the public eye...

Sounds very positive, iirc Koeman has gone on record saying things like his wage would not be an issue only the ambition of the club. Would be the most important contract signing at the club this summer if it is to happen!

Unfortunately LR has been confident new contracts would be signed before and they haven't happened. Full marks for putting something out but I still believe the odds are against RK extending and there is a hint of damage limitation in this interview. Let's hope this time Les's optimism is well-placed.

Taken on face value: sounds hopeful and ties in with what both parties have said before.

I'm taking all this as very positive. The club must be confident he's going to sign otherwise posting that video and all the other signposts they have set up over the past few days is going to make them look bloody stupid if he doesn't.

You would think so!

Is a DoF likely to say anything other than what he did?

So either they are dotting the I's and crossing the T's or not much is happening?

Is a DoF likely to say anything other than what he did?

Possibly not. But he will look silly if Koeman's version of events differs from his own.

As Armstrong said, if Reed says that there is no need for talks until both parties are aligned on the philosophical stuff then later says that talks are happening then you assume the philosophical stuff is sorted. Money shouldn't be an issue so assuming what Reed says is accurate then there shouldn't be too much of an issue unless other factors come in to play (or have done) such an other club interest.

Nothing's sorted so what's the point of the interview?

and there is a hint of damage limitation in this interview.

This.

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Is a DoF likely to say anything other than what he did?

Well, he could have answered the first question in a way that gave credit to the manager. Anything else is arrogant after the last 2 seasons we've had under Koeman.

Nothing's sorted so what's the point of the interview?

To calm neurotic fans?

To placate fans who are constantly demanding "communication" on the issue?

To put pressure on RK?

To fuel speculation to keep bored fans interested?

Who knows? But at least something's happening.

Possibly not. But he will look silly if Koeman's version of events differs from his own.

 

As Armstrong said, if Reed says that there is no need for talks until both parties are aligned on the philosophical stuff then later says that talks are happening then you assume the philosophical stuff is sorted. Money shouldn't be an issue so assuming what Reed says is accurate then there shouldn't be too much of an issue unless other factors come in to play (or have done) such an other club interest.

Exactly. This is all PR and posturing on behalf of the club while Koeman is on holiday. (Worth noting they did the exact same when they appointed Koeman; and when he did sign, they highlighted how it was always calm and well-handled by all parties)

We've heard from RK's representatives and the club's main representative (Les), on the same day, so it's all pointing towards an extension.

Ronald said he'd be having deeper talks with the club about ambition etc when the season ended, and before his holiday.

Well, he's now on holiday and his agents and the legal teams are gathering in the latter stages of the week. Agents and lawyers don't discuss the details of a contract unless the main man - Ronald - has given the green light for them to talk about and draft up contracts for him to sign.

All looking positive, if you ask me...

(of course some will point to Clyne etc.)

(of course some will point to Clyne etc.)

Seems like a bit of "in before the cats out of the bag" thing. In other words, Ron ain't gonna sign but the club is telling us that they've done everything they can.

Hope I'm wrong though, would love RoKo to commit for a longer term!

Would have preferred that didn't happen. Better to say nothing until it's done. Almost pandering to the loons on this forum there, Leslie.

You may have a point, but best not to ignore your customers the whole time.

You may have a point, but best not to ignore your customers the whole time.

Who is advocating that, then?

Seems like a bit of "in before the cats out of the bag" thing. In other words, Ron ain't gonna sign but the club is telling us that they've done everything they can.

 

Hope I'm wrong though, would love RoKo to commit for a longer term!

Tend to agree, Saints normally say nothing at all until a situation is factually resolved. New agents could be meeting club to sort out severance pay for club ending contract early, ie Ron having told them he won't be extending! All v strange, but like Crab Lungs, hope he does sign!

Strange interview, not sure the point of it or what point Reed was making half the time.

Seems like a bit of "in before the cats out of the bag" thing. In other words, Ron ain't gonna sign but the club is telling us that they've done everything they can.

 

Hope I'm wrong though, would love RoKo to commit for a longer term!

Basically saying, Ron would have not "bought in" to the club should he not sign.

Basically saying, Ron would have not "bought in" to the club should he not sign.

But Reed clearly said there is no point having contract talks until Ronald is bought in.

Then said there are ongoing contract talks.

But Reed clearly said there is no point having contract talks until Ronald is bought in.

 

Then said there are ongoing contract talks.

Maybe. We shall see in the next week or so

Les.....bless 'im

All this has done is raise more questions.

I watched it three times now, hoping to pick up the optimistic vibes that seem to be the general consensus on here regarding the interview. My take, is that its unusually poorly edited from a top notch media dept. Indicating a rush job, why? While Les has always been a bit of a waffler, I don't recall so much stuttering during his replies, his eyes seldom making eye contact with the interviewer, like e's more uncomfortable than usual. Maybe indicating he's really trying to phrase his answers, or trying to word them too cautiously? He used expressions such as "Ronald's already come out and said" as if he/the club didn't necessarily agree with the way that Ron's massaged the timing and that they would of liked it done more in the clubs time/pace and without any media attention, its probably cost them a few quid, feeling like they now have to tie him down as he's said its down to the clubs ambition.

In conclusion, my take was that they are looking to sign an extension, but maybe theres not as much love behind the scenes as we would all like to believe. All IMHO of course!

So we shouldn't believe the words you can clearly see Reed saying?

Surely he has earned that respect?

He says there are contract talks, Ron's new Agent says there are contract talks and Reed says there is only any point in involving the Agent in specific contract talks once Koeman is aligned to the future plans.

Don't get the negativity?

This has the makings of an epic thread. It's like the "follow the guord/follow the shoe" scene from Life Of Brian.