Mr Saints Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Surprised it hasn't work for him at United, he was up there with the best in the league in his last 2 seasons with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Bring Morgan back! would walk back into starting 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 (edited) Yes sickening to say the least, we could easily sell off two of our underperforming midfielders to supplement his wages, but thats something saints will not do unfortunately. Why is that unfortunate? If we pay Morgan £120k a week then Boufal, Van Dijk, Fonte, Romeu, Tadic, Bertrand, Forster etc. will want £120k a week. As far as I know, our current top earner is on about £80k/wk. This is probably the same problem West Brom would be making for themselves. Which is why he won't go to West Brom but might go to Everton or West Ham. This is also why the likes of Everton and West Ham end up with expensive crap in their squads over time. Edited 22 December, 2016 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Why is that unfortunate? If we pay Morgan £120k a week then Boufal, Van Dijk, Fonte, Romeu, Tadic, Bertrand, Forster etc. will want £120k a week. As far as I know, our current top earner is on about £80k/wk. This is probably the same problem West Brom would be making for themselves. Which is why he won't go to West Brom but might go to Everton or West Ham. This is also why the likes of Everton and West Ham end up with expensive crap in their squads over time. This came up before why do people think Everton will pay 120K a week their best paid player is Lukaku on 80K a week. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/pics/pictures/4544/Every-Everton-ace-s-weekly-wages-revealed No one is going to pay Morgan a 120K a week if he wants to get his career back on track he is going to have to take a pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 This came up before why do people think Everton will pay 120K a week their best paid player is Lukaku on 80K a week. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/pics/pictures/4544/Every-Everton-ace-s-weekly-wages-revealed No one is going to pay Morgan a 120K a week if he wants to get his career back on track he is going to have to take a pay cut. He's about to sign a new deal for significantly more than that. They have the investment now to offer 100k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 He's about to sign a new deal for significantly more than that. They have the investment now to offer 100k Yep they are offering him a 100K a week still 20K less than they will allegedly pay Morgan. Plus how does that investment work under FFP? I was under the impression owners aren't allowed to just fund player sales and wages surely the investment will go on the new ground or clearing debts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Would love Morgan back, but realistically that position isn't our priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 December, 2016 Author Share Posted 22 December, 2016 http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-everton-enquire-serie-midfielder-club-expecting-offload-players-january/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 The 120K bit might be a red herring. The article states that he will take a pay cut to leave Man U: Schneiderlin currently earns around £120,000 a week at Old Trafford and though he would have to take a pay cut to join either Everton or West Brom, he is desperate to revive his career after falling off the radar. He surely must regret leaving Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Him and Romeu in the middle would be amazing for us. Better than an other combo we have therefore would be mad not to try and get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Him and Romeu in the middle would be amazing for us. Better than an other combo we have therefore would be mad not to try and get back. Agree with this bit, but the last bit doesn't necessarily follow. It's the opportunity cost of bringing him back - £18m could be spent on someone who would do even more for the team than Schneiderlin would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Agree with this bit, but the last bit doesn't necessarily follow. It's the opportunity cost of bringing him back - £18m could be spent on someone who would do even more for the team than Schneiderlin would. throw in the £45m windfall we will get in addition to the top of the league net spend from the summer just gone and no doubt, the summer to follow when others are gone with the mental TV deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Imagine if where we'd be if we signed an 18m striker... I'm looking forward to our 3-8 million pound striker arriving in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Imagine if where we'd be if we signed an 18m striker... I'm looking forward to our 3-8 million pound striker arriving in January. We'd have signed someone not as expensive as Bony or Benteke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Read somewhere the other day and forgot to post that we were interested in Molla Wague a 25yr old CB from Undinese, born in France plays for Mali. Maybe cover for the squad ? https://www.whoscored.com/Players/105339/Show/Molla-Wagu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 December, 2016 Share Posted 22 December, 2016 Imagine if where we'd be if we signed an 18m striker... I'm looking forward to our 3-8 million pound striker arriving in January. So a high fee guarantees success does it, a bit like Morgan at Utd or Bony at City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Chelsea sell Oscar for £52m they do sell well that club, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 December, 2016 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Chelsea sell Oscar for £52m they do sell well that club, that is for sure. I love how they are going to use all that money to re-invest in their team when they probably have about 10 players out on loan who could probably do a job for them replacing Oscar on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 I love how they are going to use all that money to re-invest in their team when they probably have about 10 players out on loan who could probably do a job for them replacing Oscar on the bench. their loan system is an obvious way of making money. It kind of works, for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Oscar was bought for 27m so doubled their money to the Chinese who throw their money around, we do just as well, if not better with our sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Oscar was bought for 27m so doubled their money to the Chinese who throw their money around, we do just as well, if not better with our sales. he has hardly been a star for them and not really a fixture in the 1st team. To get £52m is incredible really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Oscar was bought for 27m so doubled their money to the Chinese who throw their money around, we do just as well, if not better with our sales. Really? so you don't think that Mane for £36 million (given the other transfers that have taken place this window) was a steal? Do you think that Oscar is worth £16 million more than Mane? is Mane only worth £4 million more than Benteke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Percentage wise. We traveled our money on Mane in 2 seasons, you think that's bad business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 he has hardly been a star for them and not really a fixture in the 1st team. To get £52m is incredible really Absolutely! and the £50 million they got for Luiz from PSG. Unfortunately we just don't hold the power to command them sort of fee's (before anyone mentions VVD, if he goes for £50 million, that's the same price as stones who's half the player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 West Brom bid 13 million for Morgan ... we would be daft not to at least consider resigning him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Percentage wise. We traveled our money on Mane in 2 seasons, you think that's bad business? if we treble our money on VvD in the summer, that would still be bad business IMO (which we wont, will be at least £45m IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 I know we have brought in a shed load from sales, but I still think by and large that we have sold slightly short. VVD fee should be astronomical. Anything less than £50m is simply not good business on our part. The market is moving very quickly. Before you know it £100m players will be two a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 West Brom bid 13 million for Morgan ... we would be daft not to at least consider resigning him Decent signing for that much, wages would be an issue I would expect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Chelsea sell Oscar for £52m they do sell well that club, that is for sure. Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two? £10m for Bertrand was good business for them (and us) considering he was never going to get in their side. Not sure how much Romeu cost us, can't imagine it was much though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 £10m for Bertrand was good business for them (and us) considering he was never going to get in their side. Not sure how much Romeu cost us, can't imagine it was much though? £5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Don't know Oscar is on per week. Tevez rumoured to be £615k pw. Insanity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Can you image the meltdown on here if we sold Romeu and Bertrand for a combined £15m! But Batman thinks that Chelsea "sell well"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Can you image the meltdown on here if we sold Romeu and Bertrand for a combined £15m! But Batman thinks that Chelsea "sell well"... they generally do. imagine selling a 'sell-on-fee' for the one day worlds most expensive player for a tommy forcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Do you think they got good fees for Bertrand and Romeu, or in hindsight did they undervalue those two? I would say yes. Bertrand was not really setting the world alight at Villa and before that. Never going to get in their side at the time. Romeu also was never ever going to get in their side and had a run of serious injuries how much did Bertrand cost them? £125k....and sold for £10m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardc Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Don't know Oscar is on per week. Tevez rumoured to be £615k pw. Insanity! Oscar wont be happy only on a reported £400k PW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 At the time, we were no doubt happy with the fee we paid and Chelsea with what they received - a few years on and we'd sell them for more if they left, but that says more about is and what we have done as a club with players rather than Chelsea not getting good value for money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 West Brom bid 13 million for Morgan ... we would be daft not to at least consider resigning him He would be a hell of a signing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 CM should be the least prioritized position. Romeu has been great and Clasie and Hojbjerg will come good and we also have JWP and Reed. Morgan is a great player but it would be more of a luxury than a must to have him at this time. We spent 16 millions on Boufal and i would rather have one more player of that kind in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 He would be a hell of a signing for us. Pochettino will come in for him - BETCHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Pochettino will come in for him - BETCHA Really? They need DMs even less than we do 2 seasons ago Morgan would have been a shoe in at spurs now they really don't need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Pochettino will come in for him - BETCHA Pardew will sign him for his next club... Swansea. Put your Christmas on it. (Don't!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 At that price we should snap him up, he's still better than anything we have. Last few seasons for us he was developing as a proper box to box midfielder rather than a standard DM. Plus he'd be great cover for Romeu, he's basically an upgrade on Clasie for £13 million, seems a no brainer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 At that price we should snap him up, he's still better than anything we have. Last few seasons for us he was developing as a proper box to box midfielder rather than a standard DM. Plus he'd be great cover for Romeu, he's basically an upgrade on Clasie for £13 million, seems a no brainer to me. Sell JWP and I'm in with Morgan coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Still think at times with us he showed he's good enough for a team like united ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 December, 2016 Author Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Think we may have already made our first signing. Pretty big money. Is it the lad from Ajax? The Serbian central midfielder? Or a striker? Haller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Think we may have already made our first signing. Pretty big money. Without the window being open? Interesting. Out of contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Without the window being open? Interesting. Out of contract? Wouldn't be a big money transfer if they were out of contract so I'm guessing a pre window agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Without the window being open? Interesting. Out of contract? The window doesn't need to be open to make a signing just cant play until after Jan 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 23 December, 2016 Share Posted 23 December, 2016 Think we may have already made our first signing. Pretty big money. You tease[emoji41] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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