saintwbu Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Hes been out injured nearly 2 years..... Remember when Jay was the next BIG thing? You simply don't know the type of player that returns after such a long lay off. If his recent u23 games are anything to go by...... Well errrr To gamble on him would be.... Well probably typical of our club this season I appreciate he has been out for so long, so may not be reliable, but many are saying he's terrible and not good enough for us, whereas before his injury he certainly was deemed good enough to be a back up. The club may have seen enough since his injury to decide he's not up to it anymore, but in my opinion the fans won't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 He does seem to have been completely written off by many here, and I suspect that most have never seen him play pre-injury. In fact of the 11 times he has featured (albeit a couple of last min subs) we have lost one game. While he has been on the pitch only 2 goals have been scored. I've only seen him play a few times myself, i'm not saying he's the answer but I definitely didn't have a problem with him before his injury and it's strange that some do have when even if they did see him play before his injury they probably can't remember what he was like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2017 STOKE MAKE BERAHINO PROGRESS Sky Sources understand negotiations between Stoke City and West Bromwich Albion are progressing well over the possible transfer of Saido Berahino. Sky Sports News HQ reported 10 days ago that Stoke had made a bid for the striker. Now Albion have responded and re-engaged with talks. A fee hasn't yet been agreed, but both sides are getting closer, we've been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 STOKE MAKE BERAHINO PROGRESS Sky Sources understand negotiations between Stoke City and West Bromwich Albion are progressing well over the possible transfer of Saido Berahino. Sky Sports News HQ reported 10 days ago that Stoke had made a bid for the striker. Now Albion have responded and re-engaged with talks. A fee hasn't yet been agreed, but both sides are getting closer, we've been told. We should offer them a straight swap for Berahino and Fonte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 We should offer them a straight swap for Berahino and Fonte! If only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 This time next season we will back in the top 8 (with or without Claude) and we will be looking down at Stoke and their average disinterested Berahino and saying "We dodged a bullet there" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 This time next season we will back in the top 8 (with or without Claude) and we will be looking down at Stoke and their average disinterested Berahino and saying "We dodged a bullet there" If you say so Les! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Haha! Seriously though, it's nearly always the case with these periods of bedwetting . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Haha! Seriously though, it's nearly always the case with these periods of bedwetting . I'd rather we signed him and he went to to score a hat full but as we all know "it's a funny old game" so you never know what crazy sheet happens until it happens ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Haha! Seriously though, it's nearly always the case with these periods of bedwetting . I would actually like Berahino but I can't disagree with your point. Benteke and Bony both proving we did well to steer clear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 STOKE MAKE BERAHINO PROGRESS Sky Sources understand negotiations between Stoke City and West Bromwich Albion are progressing well over the possible transfer of Saido Berahino. Sky Sports News HQ reported 10 days ago that Stoke had made a bid for the striker. Now Albion have responded and re-engaged with talks. A fee hasn't yet been agreed, but both sides are getting closer, we've been told. How many bloody strikers do Stoke have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 I know we all look at our individual club's as being better than the rest. More attractive than the next. But really....Stoke! Why would you want to go there?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 I know we all look at our individual club's as being better than the rest. More attractive than the next. But really....Stoke! Why would you want to go there?? Better manager? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Better manager? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As managers generally last about half of a contract, I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Talksport are reporting that Stoke and WBA have reached a 15 mil. deal for Berahino and WBA have authorized Stoke to enter into talks with the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 (edited) Talksport also reporting that Saints have offered 13mil for Gabbiadini: http://talksport.com/football/southampton-make-ps13m-bid-napoli-striker-manolo-gabbiadini-quest-bolster-front-line Edited 20 January, 2017 by Saint Albert Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Talksport are reporting that Stoke and WBA have reached a 15 mil. deal for Berahino and WBA have authorized Stoke to enter into talks with the player. Assuming they would have to pay something like £6m in summer, it's basically an extra £9m to get him now, that's assuming he is brilliant for Stoke and meets the criteria to trigger all the additional clauses. It looks a bit steep but it sort of makes sense I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Why pay stupid amounts for players... If we finish above relegation then assess the team and strengthen properly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2017 @SkyKaveh: Napoli director Cristiano Giuntoli flying to England next week to meet Southampton about deal for Manolo Gabbiadini. Napoli want £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 20 January, 2017 @SkyKaveh: Napoli director Cristiano Giuntoli flying to England next week to meet Southampton about deal for Manolo Gabbiadini. Napoli want £20m ^ so is that where the Fonte cash is going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I know we all look at our individual club's as being better than the rest. More attractive than the next. But really....Stoke! Why would you want to go there?? There are some really great night clubs there. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 @SkyKaveh: Napoli director Cristiano Giuntoli flying to England next week to meet Southampton about deal for Manolo Gabbiadini. Napoli want £20m He may as well stay in Italy if he wants 20m for a striker who has averaged 8 goals a season {nearly 1 in 4 goal ratio} ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 He may as well stay in Italy if he wants 20m for a striker who has averaged 8 goals a season {nearly 1 in 4 goal ratio} ! Think alot of his game time has been sub appearances so 1 in 4 wouldnt be a fair or accurate reflection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatball Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Think alot of his game time has been sub appearances so 1 in 4 wouldnt be a fair or accurate reflection Fair or accurate are not exactly words I would use to describe 98% of the posts on this forum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Stoke got Berahino for £12m rising to £15m!!! **** me this football world is mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 @SkyKaveh: Napoli director Cristiano Giuntoli flying to England next week to meet Southampton about deal for Manolo Gabbiadini. Napoli want £20m I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Think alot of his game time has been sub appearances so 1 in 4 wouldnt be a fair or accurate reflection Well, as he has only managed to complete 90 minutes in a Serie A game twice in the last 2 years, they would be. The poor lad suffers from ankle problems and muscle fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 Reported on SSN as well that loan rejected. And Stoke sign Berahino, a striker that could have done a very good job for us. Les, read the runes. Our relegation rivals are taking action to improve weaknesses. Why aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 20 January, 2017 Share Posted 20 January, 2017 I am sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 And Stoke sign Berahino, a striker that could have done a very good job for us. Les, read the runes. Our relegation rivals are taking action to improve weaknesses. Why aren't you? Depends if they get 2014/15 Saido, or every other season of his career so far Saido. Potentially very good business for Stoke. Or a total disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Feeling pretty gutted about being a saints fan right now. It feels like we are on a real decline both in terms of the players we have let go and their replacements along with the managerial staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Brilliant news that Marseille won't be blackmailed by wham into paying over the odds for Payet....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Another awful transfer window (so far). Disappointed with Fonte. It's not the way to behave after 7 years. But there is absolutely no doubt we are a far weaker side now than we were at the end of last season. The whole spine has gone. Pelle, Wanyama & Fonte. Not even including Mane. The 2 replacements Hojberg & Redmond are simply not as good. Redmond is not even a central player. In this window we could have kept Fonte & signed Morgan & Berahino. Nobody could possibly say we wouldn't be a better side for it. That maybe unrealistic, but I am sure Berahino would have come. Maybe not on 85k pw though that he is getting at Stoke. Doubt Morgan would have come either if I'm being honest. Just got this horrible feeling that the decline has started. Really hope not, but Sakho & Gabiadinni are not the type of players we need at 20m each. Losing quality players year after year & watching pedestrian predictable football is not much fun at all. Come on Saints, step up, sign a player that can get all of us excited!! Please........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Another awful transfer window (so far). Disappointed with Fonte. It's not the way to behave after 7 years. But there is absolutely no doubt we are a far weaker side now than we were at the end of last season. The whole spine has gone. Pelle, Wanyama & Fonte. Not even including Mane. The 2 replacements Hojberg & Redmond are simply not as good. Redmond is not even a central player. In this window we could have kept Fonte & signed Morgan & Berahino. Nobody could possibly say we wouldn't be a better side for it. That maybe unrealistic, but I am sure Berahino would have come. Maybe not on 85k pw though that he is getting at Stoke. Doubt Morgan would have come either if I'm being honest. Just got this horrible feeling that the decline has started. Really hope not, but Sakho & Gabiadinni are not the type of players we need at 20m each. Losing quality players year after year & watching pedestrian predictable football is not much fun at all. Come on Saints, step up, sign a player that can get all of us excited!! Please........... Wouldn't hold your breath for anyone decent. We might get a couple of loans in but don't see much else. Not sure why anyone expects Saints to spend now. They didn't do enough in the summer and we've never done much in January. I always think back to the first year under Koeman when we were well in with a shot of Champions League and all we did was get in Elia on loan. It was obvious that year we needed someone to take the heat of Pelle, we didnt, he stopped scoring and we duly finished 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Our last transfer window that could be considered a success was summer 2014, quite a while ago now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Another awful transfer window (so far). Disappointed with Fonte. It's not the way to behave after 7 years. But there is absolutely no doubt we are a far weaker side now than we were at the end of last season. The whole spine has gone. Pelle, Wanyama & Fonte. Not even including Mane. The 2 replacements Hojberg & Redmond are simply not as good. Redmond is not even a central player. In this window we could have kept Fonte & signed Morgan & Berahino. Nobody could possibly say we wouldn't be a better side for it. That maybe unrealistic, but I am sure Berahino would have come. Maybe not on 85k pw though that he is getting at Stoke. Doubt Morgan would have come either if I'm being honest. Just got this horrible feeling that the decline has started. Really hope not, but Sakho & Gabiadinni are not the type of players we need at 20m each. Losing quality players year after year & watching pedestrian predictable football is not much fun at all. Come on Saints, step up, sign a player that can get all of us excited!! Please........... I feel your pain Corky. Maybe Gabiadinni and Sakho are not the right recruits in this window and there is the nagging doubt that the Club has abandoned the pursuit of quality players, but as things stand I think the average fan would like any "name" signing at present to give a lift to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Another awful transfer window (so far). Disappointed with Fonte. It's not the way to behave after 7 years. But there is absolutely no doubt we are a far weaker side now than we were at the end of last season. The whole spine has gone. Pelle, Wanyama & Fonte. Not even including Mane. The 2 replacements Hojberg & Redmond are simply not as good. Redmond is not even a central player. In this window we could have kept Fonte & signed Morgan & Berahino. Nobody could possibly say we wouldn't be a better side for it. That maybe unrealistic, but I am sure Berahino would have come. Maybe not on 85k pw though that he is getting at Stoke. Doubt Morgan would have come either if I'm being honest. Just got this horrible feeling that the decline has started. Really hope not, but Sakho & Gabiadinni are not the type of players we need at 20m each. Losing quality players year after year & watching pedestrian predictable football is not much fun at all. Come on Saints, step up, sign a player that can get all of us excited!! Please........... stop being negative man!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 How much 'profit' have we made from transfers since the Summer? That added to the new TV money, where's it all going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 How much 'profit' have we made from transfers since the Summer? That added to the new TV money, where's it all going? Dont ask mate..... Youll be told to read the accounts (from 18 months ago) in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 Basically nobody knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 How much 'profit' have we made from transfers since the Summer? That added to the new TV money, where's it all going? Hopefully paying off the debt we built up, but I suspect just on wages. Although saints fans like to think we don't pay anyone big wages, I would think the next set of accounts will show yet another big rise. England goalkeepers don't sign five years deals unless they are offered a lot of coin. If someone pays £16m for you, you expect to get paid, if you sign for nigh on a free transfer having scored 18 premiership goals the season before, you want a big old weekly pay cheque and six year deals for CBs valued at £40m are not signed unless they get a kings ransom each and every week. Mark my words these guys are now earning serious money. Probably a lot more than a lot of saints fans want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I don't think we'll be replacing Fonte. These comments seem to suggest that Yoshida is our first choice now. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15037394.Gardos_hoping_for_Saints_chance/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Dont ask mate..... Youll be told to read the accounts (from 18 months ago) in 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5 Basically nobody knowsor any minute now someone will say into Kats back pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I don't think we'll be replacing Fonte. These comments seem to suggest that Yoshida is our first choice now. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15037394.Gardos_hoping_for_Saints_chance/ What a surprise. Also Gardos comes back at an "interesting level"?! What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 I don't think we'll be replacing Fonte. These comments seem to suggest that Yoshida is our first choice now. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15037394.Gardos_hoping_for_Saints_chance/ The first Puel quote suggests that if Fonte leaves they will look to bring someone else in, be that as cover or to challenge Yoshida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 last season Redmond, Yoshida, Romeu, Austin, were (or would have been) players from the bench now, they are our only hope Rom has stepped up to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 last season Redmond, Yoshida, Romeu, Austin, were (or would have been) players from the bench now, they are our only hope Rom has stepped up to be fair And to think that we started the summer from a position of immense strength having finished sixth. The writing was on the wall for me when Ron walked out and we (IMO) failed to bring in the best manager available to us. We've gone backwards, there's no doubt about that. Just hope that we can survive in the Prem this and next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 last season Redmond, Yoshida, Romeu, Austin, were (or would have been) players from the bench now, they are our only hope Rom has stepped up to be fair Bet Jack Cork wishes hed stayed. Hed be our best CM now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 Bet Jack Cork wishes hed stayed. Hed be our best CM now something has to be going on at SFC for all these sales to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 21 January, 2017 Share Posted 21 January, 2017 something has to be going on at SFC for all these sales to happen. It's not the sales per se, it's the lack of replacements or, when we do replace, doing it on the cheap. You can't sell lamb, replace it with mutton and expect to progress. When the first exodus happened when Poch left we at least brought in replacements but we aren't doing it this time and seem to be relying on existing squad players/youth. If this is the new direction then fine but you can't preach progress and not actually back it up with actions. Similar teams to us are investing in their squads but we aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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