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    Default Arsenal EFL Cup - Match Thread

    Puel's gamble appears to have paid off today leaving him the chance to play a strong side Wednesday. I'd expect to see something like:

    Forster
    Martina
    Fonte
    Yoshida
    McQueen

    Romeu
    Classie
    Davis

    Tadic
    Long
    Boufal

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    @johncrossmirror: Wenger said Debuchy suffered "severe" hamstring injury. Giroud also felt his hamstring...

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    Beat me to it by seconds

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    Looking forward to this even though it could be like watching a game of chess.

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    The win today has given everyone a lift. We need to concentrate on the league, not worry about the Cups and
    Europe.

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    F*cking go for it. We can beat them if our strongest team turns up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    The win today has given everyone a lift. We need to concentrate on the league, not worry about the Cups and
    Europe.
    You do that bruv and leave the rest of us to this frivolous speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfc4prem View Post
    F*cking go for it. We can beat them if our strongest team turns up.
    Never thought I would care about the League Cup this season but we're here now, thanks to some excellent rotation/ squad management by Claude. Go for it, perfectly winnable.
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    If everyone's fit I'd make two changes. Tadic for Redmond and Davis for JWP.

    Boufal on the bench instead of Rodriguez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    If everyone's fit I'd make two changes. Tadic for Redmond and Davis for JWP.

    Boufal on the bench instead of Rodriguez.
    Yoshida will play for VVD, McCarthy for Forster and probably the two fullbacks will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    Yoshida will play for VVD, McCarthy for Forster and probably the two fullbacks will change.
    I was saying what I would do. I would like us to win.

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    I think this team selection is very important and one of the most important Puel has had to make all season.


    I personally would go for bust and put out a very strong team

    Forster
    Soares
    Fonte
    Yoshida
    McQueen

    Romeu
    Classie
    Davis

    Tadic
    Long
    Redmond

    and hope for the best against Palace I think it is next weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    Yoshida will play for VVD, McCarthy for Forster and probably the two fullbacks will change.
    Is McCarthy even fit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    Yoshida will play for VVD, McCarthy for Forster and probably the two fullbacks will change.
    McCarthy injured, Forster will play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    If everyone's fit I'd make two changes. Tadic for Redmond and Davis for JWP.

    Boufal on the bench instead of Rodriguez.
    Agreed

    However thought JWP was very good today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Agreed

    However thought JWP was very good today
    Save JWP for set pieces on Saturday.

    Palace woeful at defending them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Never thought I would care about the League Cup this season but we're here now, thanks to some excellent rotation/ squad management by Claude. Go for it, perfectly winnable.
    It really might be winnable - and beating that sour puss Wenger would be nearly as satisfying as putting one over Ronald.

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    Please, please, please. Not Martina. He's beyond cr_ap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View From The Top View Post
    Please, please, please. Not Martina. He's beyond cr_ap.
    really wish Pied was back!! Martina been poor lately, but he will start on Wednesday I reckon.

    Actually, on second thoughts, maybe another long shot against them Martina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    The win today has given everyone a lift. We need to concentrate on the league, not worry about the Cups and
    Europe.
    why so we can finish 9th, I would take 17th and get through to last 32 of el and league cup semi final

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    Should be no reason Cedric and Bertrand can't play on Wednesday and then again on Saturday at Palace. Both have had large rest periods already this season and both are substantially better than their respective backups (although McQueen looks good).

    But fully expect Martina, Yoshida and McQueen to play with Austin also being rested.

    Hard to tell what sort of team Arsenal will pick but whatever it is its obviously a tough game, especially as we won't play our best XI.

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    100% agree with VfTT......please don't play Martina (ever again). How he is a pro footballer when he can't defend and can't cross a ball under no pressure is beyond me.

    I would much rather have Yoshi at RB than Martina. Would hope that Cedric can play 2 games a week as he had a lengthy spell out.

    Be interesting to see who he goes up top with - Long/Rodriguez (who are both in woeful form) or Olamula?

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    People calling for Yoshida at RB are clearly forgetting how bad he was there for us and how it led to him being labelled a horrific footballer...when he is in fact a more than capable CB.

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    Martina's had some good and bad games for us and Cedric has had some good and bad games for us. These past weeks it's been good for Cedric and bad for Martina. It happens. I'm very pleased that Cedric seems to have found his feet lately, and I hope Martina will soon again as well.

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    Play Valery at RB

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    Tadic will not be fit for this game unfortunately. I saw him at the ground and spoke to him very briefly after the game today and he is still in bandages and said he will probably be back for the Palace game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexy View Post
    Tadic will not be fit for this game unfortunately. I saw him at the ground and spoke to him very briefly after the game today and he is still in bandages and said he will probably be back for the Palace game.
    If his face was bandaged up, how can you be sure it was him? Were his earlobes sticking out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    Puel's gamble appears to have paid off today leaving him the chance to play a strong side Wednesday. I'd expect to see something like:

    Forster
    Martina
    Fonte
    Yoshida
    McQueen

    Romeu
    Classie
    Davis

    Tadic
    Long
    Boufal
    Not Clasie or Davies please... these guys are becoming reserves very rapidly...

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    I think the first choice picks for CM are Romeu and Hoijberg, plus one of Ward Prowse or Davis.
    Therefore, one each I think may start on Wednesday with Clasie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    Not Clasie or Davies please... these guys are becoming reserves very rapidly...
    No way is Davis "becoming a reserve very rapidly". He was ill today, otherwise he would have started instead of JWP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red and white saint View Post
    why so we can finish 9th, I would take 17th and get through to last 32 of el and league cup semi final
    He has to write that to save face. He's in too deep. It's like that neighbour who calls me Paul. I never corrected him the first few times and now we're past that, it'd be too awkward now.

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    I really hope we do them - hopefully mertesacker is back and Shane can rip him to pieces again.

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    I'd like to see van dijk start personally either alongside yoshi or Jose.
    Expect the fullbacks to rotate. Hopefully Martina will play like he did in early part of season and late last rather than last couple of outings. People are far too quick to write players off imo.
    Expect Davis and clasie to come in hopefully alongside Romeu. Reed off the bench if needed.
    Up front you'd think long would start, with hopefully boufal and redmond if tadic is still out.

    It's a very tough game but I'd guess arsenal will be rotating too.

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    So many choices all over the pitch, which is nice when we're fighting in three fronts I guess. I'd rest VVD but otherwise keep it fairly strong.

    Forster

    Cedric - Yoshida - Fonte - McQ

    Davis - Clasie - JWP

    Boufal - J Rod - Tadic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    So many choices all over the pitch, which is nice when we're fighting in three fronts I guess. I'd rest VVD but otherwise keep it fairly strong.

    Forster

    Cedric - Yoshida - Fonte - McQ

    Davis - Clasie - JWP

    Boufal - J Rod - Tadic
    That midfield would be picked apart; and J-Rod would be a risky pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austsaint View Post
    That midfield would be picked apart; and J-Rod would be a risky pick.
    J Rod needs game time and confidence from somewhere. Arsenal midfielders aren't exactly know for being bruisers, so the work rate of Clasie, Davis and JWP is perhaps more important than having Rom's physical presence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post
    J Rod needs game time and confidence from somewhere. Arsenal midfielders aren't exactly know for being bruisers, so the work rate of Clasie, Davis and JWP is perhaps more important than having Rom's physical presence.
    I suppose if there is any truth in the rumour of J-Rod to Hull or WBA, he needs to be kept in the shop window. Maybe Long up front; it looks like Tadic may not be ready yet. Looking ahead to the Palace game you'd think young Sims would start again with Chaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pass the Dutchie View Post
    Martina's had some good and bad games for us and Cedric has had some good and bad games for us. These past weeks it's been good for Cedric and bad for Martina. It happens. I'm very pleased that Cedric seems to have found his feet lately, and I hope Martina will soon again as well.
    Stop it Dutchie, sensible posts aren't allowed here.

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    First team, no messing about. Rest a few at Palace so we are ready for Hapoel. The two cup games are massive. We are safely mid table in the league and well positioned for a run after Christmas. Advancing to the knock out stages of the EL would be great, and there is no reason we can't get to the League Cup Final, and even win it. Don't bugger about Claude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    Not Clasie or Davies please... these guys are becoming reserves very rapidly...
    We have two midfield pairs. Up to now Claude has regarded Davis/Clasie as the league pair and JWP/Hojbjerg in the cups.

    That may be changing as JWP especially, and Hojbjerg had good games yesterday, but Davis and Clasie aren't reserves, just a different rotation.

    Personally, I think Davis is still better than JWP and Clasie is the weakest link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Saint View Post
    First team, no messing about. Rest a few at Palace so we are ready for Hapoel. The two cup games are massive. We are safely mid table in the league and well positioned for a run after Christmas. Advancing to the knock out stages of the EL would be great, and there is no reason we can't get to the League Cup Final, and even win it. Don't bugger about Claude.
    It won't be the "first team", if by that you mean the usual Prem starters.

    Be'er Sheva may be slightly stronger as it's critical for qualification, but we'll still see about 18 players involved in the next 4 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsbridge Saint View Post
    First team, no messing about. Rest a few at Palace so we are ready for Hapoel. The two cup games are massive. We are safely mid table in the league and well positioned for a run after Christmas. Advancing to the knock out stages of the EL would be great, and there is no reason we can't get to the League Cup Final, and even win it. Don't bugger about Claude.
    Exactly. Rotation is about managing cumulative fatigue. We don't need to rotate just because there is a Sun / Weds pair of matches.

    Out of the next three games, Palace should be the one where anyone is rested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek2003 View Post
    The win today has given everyone a lift. We need to concentrate on the league, not worry about the Cups and
    Europe.
    lets concentrate on the league to qualify for Europe.......what's the point next season you`ll be saying lets throw the cups and concentrate on the league

    The win yesterday proves that we need to do the exact opposite of what you say.
    there is no way in the world that we are going to get relegated this season so lets go for all the cups and see what it brings.

    I would play my strongest side on Wednesday and really take the game to Arsenal
    this is a rare chance for Saints to do something ..........lets make the most of it

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    Just for reference:

    Arsenal: Martinez, Jenkinson, Holding, Gabriel, Gibbs, Elneny, Maitland-Niles, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Reine-Adelaide, Iwobi, Lucas Perez.

    Subs: Giroud, Bielik, Zelalem, Macey, Sheaf, Willock, Bola.

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    Sims has got to be close to the team after his performance yesterday. Bench at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Munster View Post
    Stop it Dutchie, sensible posts aren't allowed here.
    Was thinking the same, where are the forum police when you need 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Just for reference:

    Arsenal: Martinez, Jenkinson, Holding, Gabriel, Gibbs, Elneny, Maitland-Niles, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Reine-Adelaide, Iwobi, Lucas Perez.

    Subs: Giroud, Bielik, Zelalem, Macey, Sheaf, Willock, Bola.
    This competition is the best opportunity we have to win a trophy, especially if Arsenal play mostly reserves, so I'm hoping CP gives it some priority in team selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherminator View Post
    Sims has got to be close to the team after his performance yesterday. Bench at least.
    It's very possible. Although after that game last night, the 1st thing I thought was that he should be the 1st name on the team sheet vs Hapoel Be'er Sheva next Thursday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pass the Dutchie View Post
    Martina's had some good and bad games for us and Cedric has had some good and bad games for us. These past weeks it's been good for Cedric and bad for Martina. It happens. I'm very pleased that Cedric seems to have found his feet lately, and I hope Martina will soon again as well.
    In addition, we should remember that Martina is technically our third choice right back. Is it any wonder that there are times he doesn't play well?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    @johncrossmirror: Wenger said Debuchy suffered "severe" hamstring injury. Giroud also felt his hamstring...
    Didn't Giroud take Debuchy's word for it?

    Is the game on the telly?

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