Saints foreva Posted 18 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 18 January, 2017 West Ham? ****ing hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 £9m for a 33 year old who we didn't want to offer a longer deal to. I appreciate that we have to replace, but that's fecking crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 We only sell to top 6 sides, so that's BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 We only sell to top 6 sides, so that's BS when we sold mane liverpool finished 8th that season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=166260&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=7640 Medical tomorrow apparently. Sad that it came to an end like this but glad it's getting sorted and we are going to get a decent price for a 33rd year old. Great opportunity for jack Stephens to prove if he's good enough. Saw Gardos made the bench today too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 £9m for a 33 year old who we didn't want to offer a longer deal to. I appreciate that we have to replace, but that's fecking crazy. Given all of the intense monitoring we do of players we will have a pretty good idea of when a player is in decline - probably why we didn't want to offer a longer deal - so £9m would be a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Where does it say 9m? All I can see is a supposed ITK claiming on the WHU forum that he will sign. Quite clearly he's after one last big pay day, says a lot that WHU are the only club to offer that. Bunch of loons in charge of that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrich van Gobbel Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 And his West Ham debut could be against... Saints at St. Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=166260&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=7640 Medical tomorrow apparently. Some of them sound overjoyed at the prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Where does it say 9m? All I can see is a supposed ITK claiming on the WHU forum that he will sign. Quite clearly he's after one last big pay day, says a lot that WHU are the only club to offer that. Bunch of loons in charge of that place. Says more about our club not giving a loyal player the contract he deserves after the years of service hd has put in. More like, lets get a high salary off the books and bring a fee in at the same time. The high turnover of players to a large degree is if the club's desire to bring in money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Says more about our club not giving a loyal player the contract he deserves after the years of service hd has put in. More like, lets get a high salary off the books and bring a fee in at the same time. The high turnover of players to a large degree is if the club's desire to bring in money... I don't think there's loyalty in football in any sense, so I wouldn't expect it from the club. It's a business, if they don't feel that it's business sense to offer him the terms he wants then that's it. Loyalty won't come into it. Personally I think 80k for the next 2 years + is a lot of money for a club of our size. That sort of wage should be going on the Virgils etc, not players who are declining. Man City/Utd etc could probably stretch to that, but I don't think we're big enough to take that sort of risk. If this does happen - not that I've seen anything concrete yet - then I'd expect us to get another CB in sharpish. If the club decide to rely on Yoshida as his replacement then they have also given up on this season - no disrespect to Yoshida, but he's a great squad player, if we want to be where we were last season then we need better players than him in the 11 on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If Jose is parading around on the WHU website tomorrow then SFC have got 24 hours to announce the replacement or the meltdown on here will be visible from space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 West ****in Ham! After all that! Suppose the Super Agent did his job in terms of cash, but what about the trophies, glory and the medals? You've been very badly advised Mr Fonte... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 I don't think there's loyalty in football in any sense, so I wouldn't expect it from the club. It's a business, if they don't feel that it's business sense to offer him the terms he wants then that's it. Loyalty won't come into it. Personally I think 80k for the next 2 years + is a lot of money for a club of our size. That sort of wage should be going on the Virgils etc, not players who are declining. Man City/Utd etc could probably stretch to that, but I don't think we're big enough to take that sort of risk. If this does happen - not that I've seen anything concrete yet - then I'd expect us to get another CB in sharpish. If the club decide to rely on Yoshida as his replacement then they have also given up on this season - no disrespect to Yoshida, but he's a great squad player, if we want to be where we were last season then we need better players than him in the 11 on a regular basis. Good call; though there are players other than Yoshida starting regularly who need to be improved upon as well. If the Fonte move to WH for 9 million is true then it's probably the right call by the Club. Similar to Lambert situation in a way; long standing Club stalwart, in decline, evokes calls of "no loyalty" from Club and/or player but in truth, the players who stay are either happy with their contract or not attracting interest elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If Jose is parading around on the WHU website tomorrow then SFC have got 24 hours to announce the replacement or the meltdown on here will be visible from space. Readymade replacement on the bench tonight in Gardos. Reed's just putting the finishing touches to his press release video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Cortese would never try and sell one of our club legends who played a massive role in our promotions through the divisions to West Ham United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Says more about our club not giving a loyal player the contract he deserves after the years of service hd has put in. More like, lets get a high salary off the books and bring a fee in at the same time. The high turnover of players to a large degree is if the club's desire to bring in money... He signed the contract "he deserved" (although not sure why he deserves it) in October 2015.. That seemed fine up to and including May 2016, but come July 2016 it was no longer any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If Jose is parading around on the WHU website tomorrow then the Saintsweb forum have got 24 hours before MLG claims Gardos was always Fontes replacement FWIW i can't believe Fonte would be prepared to drop down the table and sign for WHU, they are shocking this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 my west ham mate just sent me a message 'rather than waste that £9m on an ageing defender, why don't we buy whoever Southampton replace Fonte with instead' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If it's true, that little bell-end Jack Sullivan will be tweeting about it soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If Jose is parading around on the WHU website tomorrow then the Saintsweb forum have got 24 hours before MLG claims Gardos was always Fontes replacement FWIW i can't believe Fonte would be prepared to drop down the table and sign for WHU, they are shocking this season Yep awful, and still they're a point and a place ahead of us. We're in semi final of LC though so all is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 65k p/w 2.5 year deal they're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 65k p/w 2.5 year deal they're saying? So he will be earning less than the deal he turned down with us then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 West ****in Ham! After all that! Suppose the Super Agent did his job in terms of cash, but what about the trophies, glory and the medals? You've been very badly advised Mr Fonte... If you think it's about anything more than cash for a 33 year old who's looking for a final payday..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If you think it's about anything more than cash for a 33 year old who's looking for a final payday..... Yes, but he's mates with Renaldo now. Hence he deserves to sign for a supermassive glory team, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 So he will be earning less than the deal he turned down with us then? They're saying as in on their forum so who knows really haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Perhaps he just doesn't get on with Puel, maybe he disagrees over tactics, selection or the fact we just don't play our strongest team regularly? Having the captain undermining the manager just wouldn't work.The club obviously would have sided with Puel/Black so nothing left to do but leave. Shame really he has been great for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Perhaps he just doesn't get on with Puel, maybe he disagrees over tactics, selection or the fact we just don't play our strongest team regularly? Having the captain undermining the manager just wouldn't work.The club obviously would have sided with Puel/Black so nothing left to do but leave. Shame really he has been great for us. Unlike Puel and Black so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Cortese would never try and sell one of our club legends who played a massive role in our promotions through the divisions to West Ham United.No...but he sacked Nigel Adkins.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnery Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 So, some random on a Wet Spam forum says Fonte is signing for them and everyone takes it as gospel...wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 Says more about our club not giving a loyal player the contract he deserves after the years of service hd has put in. More like, lets get a high salary off the books and bring a fee in at the same time. The high turnover of players to a large degree is if the club's desire to bring in money... Loyalty suggests he could have taken a better offer elsewhere but chose not to. That isn't the case. He hasn't been loyal, he's just been here ages. A bit like Lundekvam really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 No...but he sacked Nigel Adkins.. I think you're missing the sarcasm....He tried to sell Lambert to West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 So, some random on a Wet Spam forum says Fonte is signing for them and everyone takes it as gospel...wow! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4133856/Liverpool-turn-Mamadou-Sakho-bid-Southampton.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 18 January, 2017 Share Posted 18 January, 2017 If we are getting £9M for Jose, then that goes a long way to funding a Sakho deal. If we can get him for £12-15M, that would be a good deal for us now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Swap Fonte for Carroll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Maybe he said to his agent that he wanted to go to United, and the agent got the wrong United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If we are getting £9M for Jose, then that goes a long way to funding a Sakho deal. If we can get him for £12-15M, that would be a good deal for us now. Didn't Liverpool want £20m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If Liverpool can drop their valuation of Sakho down to say 15-18 mil and we get 9 mil for Fonte then that would be an outstanding piece of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Except he's on something like 105k/week isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 19 January, 2017 Author Share Posted 19 January, 2017 If Liverpool can drop their valuation of Sakho down to say 15-18 mil and we get 9 mil for Fonte then that would be an outstanding piece of business. How would it? Sakho is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 How would it? Sakho is awful. No he isn't. When he had a run of games in the Liverpool side he was very good. He'd be an upgrade on Fonte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 How would it? Sakho is awful. No he's not! He's French International defender, who just needs a run of games and back playing again. Ideal replacement for Fonte and 6 years younger. Would probably get on well with our dull French manager. Also has re-sale value which the club likes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11685/10733964/west-ham-in-talks-to-sign-jose-fonte-from-southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Cortese would never try and sell one of our club legends who played a massive role in our promotions through the divisions to West Ham United. Nope, he'd just keep handing out bigger and bigger contracts that the club can't afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Swap Fonte for Carroll! What a fascinating suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Sakho the potential replacement? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4133856/amp/Liverpool-turn-Mamadou-Sakho-bid-Southampton.html?client=safari That could be our first approach? He HAS to be replaced, Stephens is not his replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Im not surprised if these West Ham rumors are true, said it in here before but i dont see a top 6 club paying 10 million for a 33 year old defender. It doesnt really make sense for them to do so. Says a lot tho that a player who's been with the club for 7 years wants out for just a small pay raise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Schar in for £15m then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Sakho the potential replacement? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4133856/amp/Liverpool-turn-Mamadou-Sakho-bid-Southampton.html?client=safari That could be our first approach? He HAS to be replaced, Stephens is not his replacement Why is Stephens not his replacement? Just asking as the club think a lot of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 January, 2017 Share Posted 19 January, 2017 Im not surprised if these West Ham rumors are true, said it in here before but i dont see a top 6 club paying 10 million for a 33 year old defender. It doesnt really make sense for them to do so. Says a lot tho that a player who's been with the club for 7 years wants out for just a small pay raise. Its not the pay rise its, the length of contract - if you read your first part (33 year old) you'll understand that the second part isn't the issue. Why would Saints offer an extended contract to a defender that is only going to get slower? SFC have all the performance stats on Fonte that they need to make that decision. If he ends up at WHU then good luck to him I bear him no ill will as he's been outstanding for us but likewise we have been more than just good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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