French ban the wearing of the Burka.....

So,no weaing the Burka in public in France could become law.

The lower house of the French Parliment vote overwhelmingly to ban the Burka

Should we follow their lead?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10611398.stm

No!

Absolutely 100% YES, it should be banned.

I would say...YES

cannot see how they can enforce it.

cannot see how they can enforce it.

Easy. If you are caught in the street wearing one... £80 fine. Simple.

Imo,it should be banned.

May seem harsh to some, but we are all entitled to our opinion.

I think it should be banned too.

Absolutely 100% YES, it should be banned.

Stu 100% with yer,,,,Mind you there could be a good reason why the men make there Girls wear em,,,,,,,,,There fucin ugly.

Easy. If you are caught in the street wearing one... £80 fine. Simple.

yes but what happens if loads refuse to pay the fine,its going to be expensive process for the french taxpayer,i doubt that it will go on the statute books and i think the law does not specify burkas .

No!

+ 1

And I am not being racist. We live in a state of heightened security. Burkas are a security risk and can be used to conceal identity... not just from people who wear them for their religion...

Nobody in this country, which is a terrorist target, should be allowed to conceal their identity.

yes but what happens if loads refuse to pay the fine,its going to be expensive process for the french taxpayer,i doubt that it will go on the statute books and i think the law does not specify burkas .

They go to court and under Conservative plans, once convicted are deported back to their country of origin.

Stu 100% with yer,,,,Mind you there could be a good reason why the men make there Girls wear em,,,,,,,,,There fucin ugly.

Or, or, or - the women choose to wear them because they're fed up with saddo pervs ogling them.

If the veil / burkha were to be banned here it should be matched with a ban on fat blokes wearing vests / shorts / showing off beer bellies. That's far more offensive.

I remember once an immigrant who murdered someone was wanted by the police, he obtained a woman's passport, in which the photo was just of a burkha. He put on a burkha, took the passport, and fled the country. That should not be allowed to happen.

Or, or, or - the women choose to wear them because they're fed up with saddo pervs ogling them.

 

If the veil / burkha were to be banned here it should be matched with a ban on fat blokes wearing vests / shorts / showing off beer bellies. That's far more offensive.

no it should not....

you cant wear your crash helmet in a petrol station in most cases..what is your opinion on that..?

Stupid, Everyone should be able to wear what the hell they like, or nothing at all if they so choose.

And I am not being racist. We live in a state of heightened security. Burkas are a security risk and can be used to conceal identity... not just from people who wear them for their religion...

 

Nobody in this country, which is a terrorist target, should be allowed to conceal their identity.

i agree and think they treat women has second class citzens but where do you stop do you include guys with motorbike helmets on, hoodies ,i can see the case at security centres but not people just walking the streets.

no it should not....

 

you cant wear your crash helmet in a petrol station in most cases..what is your opinion on that..?

I don't have one - I don't own a motor bike.

Or, or, or - the women choose to wear them because they're fed up with saddo pervs ogling them.

 

If the veil / burkha were to be banned here it should be matched with a ban on fat blokes wearing vests / shorts / showing off beer bellies. That's far more offensive.

Calm down now dearie, there's no need to drag me into this! (To be read in a patronising Michael Winner type voice)

I can't hide my beer belly, even under a Bhurka!

Yes, easy decision for me. Their men make them wear them, even though it's not a muslim thing, but they themselves walk around in western clothes. I'm suprised that woman's rights groups are not up in arms about it!

I don't have one - I don't own a motor bike.

you dont own a burkha no doubt yet you comment on that..

Calm down now dearie, there's no need to drag me into this! (To be read in a patronising Michael Winner type voice)

what have you ever done to upset him andy:D

you dont own a burkha no doubt yet you comment on that..

No - I commented on the banning of the burkha. AFAIK crash helmets aren't banned.

I'm a sandal-wearing, tree-hugging leftie, remember? I think people should be able to wear exactly what they like as long as it doesn't offend public decency.

And wearing a burkha doesn't offend public DECENCY.

People should be able to wear what they want, however from a personal point of view I don't like them. Whilst some women choose to wear them, you can bet that many are forced to.

Yes, easy decision for me. Their men make them wear them, even though it's not a muslim thing, but they themselves walk around in western clothes. I'm suprised that woman's rights groups are not up in arms about it!

I'd imagine that there are no, or very sparse, women's rights groups in their homelands?

I can tollerate the Burkha, but only if I am allowed to walk around in a balaclava without fear of police harassment. I was section 60'd at St Mary's two season's ago for wearing a scarf across my face.....when it was bloody freezing.

So all I am looking for is equal treatment.

They go to court and under Conservative plans, once convicted are deported back to their country of origin.

What if they were born here?

No - I commented on the banning of the burkha. AFAIK crash helmets aren't banned.

 

I'm a sandal-wearing, tree-hugging leftie, remember? I think people should be able to wear exactly what they like as long as it doesn't offend public decency.

 

And wearing a burkha doesn't offend public DECENCY.

No... it affects public SECURITY

Do you not get that?

What if they were born here?

Then they are treated the same way as anyone else doesn't pay a f*cking fine.

Jesus, some of you are so far stuck up your own arses.

F*cking hell, first on the installment plan peoples reasons for not having it was because of defaulters, now people are saying get rid of £80 fines because they might not pay them.

Get a grip.

I can tollerate the Burkha, but only if I am allowed to walk around in a balaclava without fear of police harassment. I was section 60'd at St Mary's two season's ago for wearing a scarf across my face.....when it was bloody freezing.

 

So all I am looking for is equal treatment.

I work with people who are within the Autistic spectrum,i took a couple out for a visit to a pub one lunchtime,which shall remain nameless,i was told by the barmaid that the guys and the girls had to remove their hats,which some like to wear, so that their faces could be seen by the cctv cameras in the event of 'trouble'

I approached the manager,he remained adamant that they had to remove any headwear.I wonder if this would've included a Burka,niqab or such like on the BBC link in the OP.

We left.

No... it affects public SECURITY

 

Do you not get that?

So a biker walks into a bank and is asked to remove the helmet for security reasons.

So a woman wearing a burkha walks into a bank and is asked to remove the face-covering element of her burkha for security reasons.

What's the difference? The difference is that, out in the street, one will not be banned but, in France, the other will.

Or, or, or - the women choose to wear them because they're fed up with saddo pervs ogling them.

 

If the veil / burkha were to be banned here it should be matched with a ban on fat blokes wearing vests / shorts / showing off beer bellies. That's far more offensive.

and footie thugs covering their faces with scarves and baseball caps...its a complete racist thing, no more no less

Then they are treated the same way as anyone else doesn't pay a f*cking fine.

 

Jesus, some of you are so far stuck up your own arses.

 

F*cking hell, first on the installment plan peoples reasons for not having it was because of defaulters, now people are saying get rid of £80 fines because they might not pay them.

 

Get a grip.

Nice pleasant reply to a question as usual. Maybe they should ban baseball caps and scarfs as well? sunglasses? hats? fat people tryin to look cool in desgner gear?

What ever happened to freedom of religion? What next, a ban on turbans? I know it is different in France because they have outlawed the wearing of other overtly religious items with regards to other religions, but to just 'Ban the Burhka' in the Uk would cause no end of trouble and at the end of the day it would be discrimination.

Glad they banned them, I don't see it as a human rights issue because many women are forced to wear them by their Muslim husbands who don't give a monkeys about human rights.

I think all muslims should wear them, men aswell. What happens if you have one on order, will you get your money back?

I would like to see some English women wear the Burka.

What ever happened to freedom of religion? What next, a ban on turbans? I know it is different in France because they have outlawed the wearing of other overtly religious items with regards to other religions, but to just 'Ban the Burhka' in the Uk would cause no end of trouble and at the end of the day it would be discrimination.

+1

All the people saying it's for security reasons are just talking out of their arses, if it was then people wouldn't be allowed to wear crash helmets/ski masks etc in public. It really just stems from a deep-seated fear of Islam by us Westerners.

Will the Milk Tray man now be banned in Tehran?

How many terrorist bombers have been caught wearing burhkas?

How many terrorist bombers have been caught wearing burhkas?

One was caught trying to escape the country dressed in one.

I'd ban them in a heartbeat. They've nothing to do with Islam.

The college/organisation who I work for do not allow students to wear the burhka or veil in lessons and they are on the hippy side of lefties.

One of my old neighbours wore a burhka. Was always polite and friendly when i saw her. Not sure the burhka went with nike trainers though but each to their own. Everyone should be allowed to wear what they want as far as i'm concerned, after all as much as the Daily Mail hates the fact is we are a multicultural society/country.

How many terrorist bombers have been caught wearing burhkas?

one was trying to flee the country wearing one for a start

Imo,it should be banned.

May seem harsh to some, but we are all entitled to our opinion.

Being entitled to express your opinion (within reason) is certainly one of the fundamental liberties of a free country - surely an even more basic freedom is being able to wear whatever clothes you choose .

I'll make myself perfectly clear on this - I hate the Burka with a passion , I hate the outdated and repressive attitude towards women this garment represents , I hate the implicit religious fundamentalism , I hate the apparent rejection of British culture & our long history . But none of that is more hateful than having to live in the type of country where the Police have the power to arrest you for wearing the 'wrong' cloths in public .

This is Britain not some damn French Provence - in this country the state doesn't get to order you to carry an identity card at all times or instruct you on what you must think and how you must dress .

And that my friends is the beginning , the middle , and the end of it .

having many wives and stoning the odd one to death is also part of their "culture"...shall we allow either of that too...?

Living here in Burhka central I can confirm it is only the minging ones that actually wear the full Burhka. It is quite easy to judge the size and shape of a Burhka lady when a little breeze blows through Whitechapel market; generally revealing all I need to know. The pretty ones, (and there are a lot) generally wear a mix of Western/Eastern clothes. A find a pretty girl in a Sari most attractive; but to me they are just as unapproachable as a Burhka munt.

We've already got laws against those, TDD. Stop messing about.

one was trying to flee the country wearing one for a start

One person so how many terrorist bombers have been caught not wearing a burhka?

One person so how many terrorist bombers have been caught not wearing a burhka?

I have a mate who works for security services, can ask if you like....you would not believe the answer he would give me I should imagine

I have a mate who works for security services, can ask if you like....you would not believe the answer he would give me I should imagine

Just back it up with some facts. Not much to ask really.