A bloke who refused to work as it was 8am starts

http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-jobless-man-who-refuses-to-get-up-at-8am-64710

incredible....also, how there is no point in working for a low wages as he can do nothing and stay on benfits

oh dear lol

Put him on community work to 'earn' his benefits, starting at 07:00, and stop all of his money the first day he fails to turn up. The guy is a living breathing Daily Mail headline, and deserves to be named and shamed.

That has to be a wind up? If it's not then that bloke is everything that is wrong with this country - these lazy b*stards shouldn't be allowed to abuse the system and the system is wrong for allowing them to do it.

Put him on community work to 'earn' his benefits, starting at 07:00, and stop all of his money the first day he fails to turn up. The guy is a living breathing Daily Mail headline, and deserves to be named and shamed.

Whilst I agree, prepare for the PC brigade to tell us why we should pay so much to those that contribute so little

Poor little darlings

He should have his benfits stopped.

People like that don't deserve to live in normal society. He should be forced to stay at home and do nothing all day except eat Iceland foods and smoke fags all day with the tv on.

Come on it was an 8am start, have a heart lads, poor little soul was probably suffering from staying up late watching his sky movies on his 42" 3D Plasma TV paid for by his work on the side. Don't stop his benefits put him inside for fraud.

Yep, heard that a week ago. Those individuals like him insult those that actually need the benefit system to survive. Parasites like that are why benefit reform is so badly needed.

Hang them, then burn them. Absolute oxygen thieves.

That has to be a wind up?

My immediate reaction on hearing it. Its a wum on a plsstake, those phone in stations get them all the time.

Lazy f*cker. You would think the Tories would have sorted scum like him out ages ago.

The benefits system needs a major overhaul, people in low paid jobs need to be made much better off than people on benefits. Its obvious.

Seem to remember this was a story doing the rounds about a year ago. Someone's resurrected it as a wind up.

I couldn't do an 8am start, I sympathise with the guy. I struggle to make it in for 9am most days. If he makes it up at the end of the day, I don't really see the problem. I didn't catch what the job was tho.

Personally I think everything should be free.

Roll on robotic serfs, I say.

Don't worry everyone, I'm on dune watch. If anything will smoke him out, it will be this. Just a shame we don't know the ethnic background of the caller. If we knew that, there would be no way dune could resist.

I sure our hobby socialists from Surrey and gloucestershire will be along in a minute to tell us that he has every right to get up when he wants. We are simply reaping the consequences of a benefit culture created by a labour nanny state which panders to the work shy like this chap. There are plenty more like him out there thanks to Labour.

^mmmmmm a good effort Turkish but everyone knows dune loves you too much to actually be you. Plus you are far too busy with your other log ins.

Put him on community work to 'earn' his benefits, starting at 07:00, and stop all of his money the first day he fails to turn up. The guy is a living breathing Daily Mail headline, and deserves to be named and shamed.

I've often wondered why those who are on job seekers aren't given some sort of community service jobs to do. Plenty of graffiti to scrub off, litter to pick up or gardens to tend to.

I've often wondered why those who are on job seekers aren't given some sort of community service jobs to do. Plenty of graffiti to scrub off, litter to pick up or gardens to tend to.

Come on now. That's utterly against their human rights, forcing people to work for their benefits? Loony right wing nonsense.

...and for me a damn good idea!!

I've often wondered why those who are on job seekers aren't given some sort of community service jobs to do. Plenty of graffiti to scrub off, litter to pick up or gardens to tend to.

Because then they would be jobs and when would they get the time to look for proper work if they were doing these menial jobs that nobody wants.?

What a ****. 8am! Jesus.

8:00 am is almost 3 hours into my normal working day with another 9 still to do

My wife declines offers to start work at 06.45 but on the other hand she quite happily does extra night shifts

when the company is stuck.She also works from 14.45 to 23.15 shifts without complaining.

That has to be a wind up? If it's not then that bloke is everything that is wrong with this country - these lazy b*stards shouldn't be allowed to abuse the system and the system is wrong for allowing them to do it.

Even if it is a wind up it represents the views a fair few claimants.

Benfits for someone like him should be on the basis of the following interview.

"OK Sir, you are out of work and you wish the rest of Society to support you. What is your contribution to that society ?"

"err...... errr.....ummm"

"Next"

Even if it is a wind up it represents the views a fair few claimants.

 

Benfits for someone like him should be on the basis of the following interview.

"OK Sir, you are out of work and you wish the rest of Society to support you. What is your contribution to that society ?"

"err...... errr.....ummm"

"Next"

What if he's REALLY good looking?

He'd probably commit suicide after doing even one of my 4.30am starts. I have no problem with getting up at 3am, although granted it's once in a 16 week cycle, it's the getting to sleep the previous night I find difficult!

Because then they would be jobs and when would they get the time to look for proper work if they were doing these menial jobs that nobody wants.?

You don't honestly believe that do you? I'm not talking 12 hour days, just 2 or 3 hours a day would do. Plenty of time to look for work...especially considering the job centre do a lot of the work for you as long as you're actually WILLING to take a job, rather than waiting for the "perfect" job to come along.

You don't honestly believe that do you? I'm not talking 12 hour days, just 2 or 3 hours a day would do. Plenty of time to look for work...especially considering the job centre do a lot of the work for you as long as you're actually WILLING to take a job, rather than waiting for the "perfect" job to come along.

Even if they take a job for 2 or 3 hours then include the travel time and then the statutory breaks that will be factored in. Considering they have to look for work during the 9 till 5 time frame you would find that actually looking for a proper job will get lost on them, so they will never actually find full employment again and become another statistic.

Its not ideal and most people that work including myself think that the jobshy longtime unemployed should have benefits cutback so that even the lowest paid jobs would seem more attractive than staying on the dole.

I've often wondered why those who are on job seekers aren't given some sort of community service jobs to do. Plenty of graffiti to scrub off, litter to pick up or gardens to tend to.

They've talked about this before but it's never happened. I guess it's because of setting precedence and the fear that paid workers will be laid off so that unpaid jobseekers claimants can take over their roles - making the problem worse.

What is needed is a massive overhaul of the benefits system and the hopelessly inept jobcentre/jobseekers 'system'. To give you one example a friend of mine had to give up working in the construction industry due to a bad back injury. He started a part-time course in accountancy out of his own volition, spent £1000 of his own money only to have his benefits stopped because the jobcentre considered the course too much of an obstruction to him finding a job, despite it being 6 hours a week. This is after they'd put him forward for more than one job based on his previous experience that involved heavy lifting

I also talked to my friend's son the other week. After his previous job ended he visited a careers advisor from the NUS, who openly advised him how to manipulate the benefits system in certain areas, and to stretch the truth in certain parts of his jobcentre application that the advisor knows they wouldn't check, so he could claim benefits.

When we get to that point it's clear the whole system just needs to start again.

I've heard plenty of horror stories regarding the jobcentre and they seem to be ever increasing. As for the link above if that guy did turn down a job just because he started at 8am, then I think the fact the jobcentre didn't stop his benefits as a result is the biggest scandal in that story.

What qualifications does one need to work in a job centre? Sounds like they need to make it a better paid job to raise the quality of people working there...

maybe if we looked at the root of the problem and that being on JSA is completely soul destroying experience we might have a more motivated unemployed work force

personally i'd say you're better off not signing on, being £50 down every month and not being degraded like a school child once a fortnight. the fact that reed will find u a interviews & a job in ur sector quicker than DWP can find you a job anywhere is a joke.

it does't help that there are two very different sorts of people who sign on, the long term unemployed with little or no qualifications and those who have fallen down on there luck, but both treated the same, assuming everyone is trying to pull the tricks the first group employ. i was once told off like a naughty child for not having my papers on me because i had been at an interview for three hours that morning and had no time to pick them up as i hadnt expected it to last that long. walking in 5 minutes late, buzzing off a good interview at one of the worlds top companies, my advisor crushed my spirit in a matter of seconds. they are just there for a pay day and do not give a **** half the time.

They've talked about this before but it's never happened. I guess it's because of setting precedence and the fear that paid workers will be laid off so that unpaid jobseekers claimants can take over their roles - making the problem worse.

 

What is needed is a massive overhaul of the benefits system and the hopelessly inept jobcentre/jobseekers 'system'. To give you one example a friend of mine had to give up working in the construction industry due to a bad back injury. He started a part-time course in accountancy out of his own volition, spent £1000 of his own money only to have his benefits stopped because the jobcentre considered the course too much of an obstruction to him finding a job, despite it being 6 hours a week. This is after they'd put him forward for more than one job based on his previous experience that involved heavy lifting

 

I also talked to my friend's son the other week. After his previous job ended he visited a careers advisor from the NUS, who openly advised him how to manipulate the benefits system in certain areas, and to stretch the truth in certain parts of his jobcentre application that the advisor knows they wouldn't check, so he could claim benefits.

 

When we get to that point it's clear the whole system just needs to start again.

 

I've heard plenty of horror stories regarding the jobcentre and they seem to be ever increasing. As for the link above if that guy did turn down a job just because he started at 8am, then I think the fact the jobcentre didn't stop his benefits as a result is the biggest scandal in that story.

i reckon they should at least do something to earn the money, £50/week at minimum wage is about 4-8 hours depending on age, and it doesn't even have to be jobs that are currently taken. just something to get them out the house, networking, and feeling like they've done something productive, and maybe if we integrated these hard to reach yutes into society and local community they might not be such wasters. there's eno

As if life on benefits is fun. If there's idiots who think that's the best they can or will do just pity them, rather than getting angry, or worse using it to judge everyone else struggling to find work.

i don;t think its a case of best i can do, its more a lack of motivation imo. why put all that extra effort in when ur only gonna be a few quids in each month, once u start earning u get housing benefit taken away, and start paying council tax. and too some its daunting having had an an challenging life for the last couple years

Doubt this is real, probably just a wind up.

People who turn down work on that sort of basis loose their benefits. You agree a certain set of parameters for the jobs you are seeking and if you turn down work inside them you loose your JSA, you could probably turn down working at 5/6am if all your previous experience has been 9-5 stuff but I distinctly remember that the time period for day stuff is like 8am to 7pm. The longer you are out of work the more the parameters change, so after 7 years no way.

JSA is paltry anyway and most of the time it's paid out of your NI contributions, the time I was off work I just got paid money based on my previous NI contributions.

Even if they take a job for 2 or 3 hours then include the travel time and then the statutory breaks that will be factored in. Considering they have to look for work during the 9 till 5 time frame you would find that actually looking for a proper job will get lost on them, so they will never actually find full employment again and become another statistic..

There's no statutory breaks for a shift under 6 hours.

maybe if we looked at the root of the problem and that being on JSA is completely soul destroying experience we might have a more motivated unemployed work force

 

personally i'd say you're better off not signing on, being £50 down every month and not being degraded like a school child once a fortnight. the fact that reed will find u a interviews & a job in ur sector quicker than DWP can find you a job anywhere is a joke.

Soul destroying? Degrading? I was on JSA for just under a month in between my last job and my current one, I didn't find it embarrassing - I was entitled to it and I knew I was actually going to be getting back into work as soon as possible.

The telling moment for me was when I when in for the last time to tell them I had just taken a job, and the woman was shocked I'd found one so quick.

Doubt this is real, probably just a wind up.

 

People who turn down work on that sort of basis loose their benefits. You agree a certain set of parameters for the jobs you are seeking and if you turn down work inside them you loose your JSA, you could probably turn down working at 5/6am if all your previous experience has been 9-5 stuff but I distinctly remember that the time period for day stuff is like 8am to 7pm. The longer you are out of work the more the parameters change, so after 7 years no way.

 

JSA is paltry anyway and most of the time it's paid out of your NI contributions, the time I was off work I just got paid money based on my previous NI contributions.

As far as I remember the short while I was receiving it the only criteria to continue getting it was that I had to apply for a certain number of jobs. I don't think you HAVE to accept the first job you get offered.

As far as I remember the short while I was receiving it the only criteria to continue getting it was that I had to apply for a certain number of jobs. I don't think you HAVE to accept the first job you get offered.

Was on it for about 4 months, pretty sure they said that if I turned down a job that was within the criteria I agreed with them they could potentially stop the JSA, correct about the jobs though, 2 a week you have to apply for.

Soul destroying? Degrading? I was on JSA for just under a month in between my last job and my current one, I didn't find it embarrassing - I was entitled to it and I knew I was actually going to be getting back into work as soon as possible.

The telling moment for me was when I when in for the last time to tell them I had just taken a job, and the woman was shocked I'd found one so quick.

i didnt say embarrassing, there isnt a much of a stigma attached. try being on jsa for over six months or more and you might have different perspective. I also think its slightly different for the under 25s though, especially as layabouts get dumped in with post grads.

There is no excuse for anyone to be unemployed for more than 6 months in Southampton. I know this bloke wasn't from Southampton, but just saying.

I agree that this guy should work given it is an 8am start, and also businesses need to be mindful of peoples commitments that prevents them from working certain hours eg getting the kids to school etc.

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