capitalsaint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 In England! http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/feb/04/europol-investigation-football-matchfixing Would be a little amusing if the club turned out to be Spurs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 within the last 3-4 years. small murmuring's about brown envelopes and what not, would have no idea what you mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 thats a huge number of fixtures and even more officials and players involved. Is it possible to fix that many major football matches. I think there is a problem but surely not on that scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 These are all the Champions League games played in this country since 2009 - not many in there that immediately look suspicious, really, perhaps that Chelsea v Barcelona semi-final second leg in May 2009? ARSENAL - 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009 24/02/2009 Roma W1-0 15/04/2009 Villarreal W3-0 05/05/2009 Manchester United L1-3 26/08/2009 Celtic W3-1 29/09/2009 Olympiakos W2-0 04/11/2009 AZ Alkmaar W4-1 24/11/2009 Standard Liege W2-0 09/03/2010 Porto W5-0 31/03/2010 Barcelona D2-2 15/09/2010 Braga W6-0 19/10/2010 Shakhtar Donetsk W5-1 08/12/2010 Partizan Belgrade W3-1 16/02/2011 Barcelona W2-1 16/08/2011 Udinese W1-0 28/09/2011 Olympiakos W2-1 01/11/2011 Marseille D0-0 23/11/2011 Borussia Dortmund W2-1 06/03/2012 AC Milan W3-0 03/10/2012 Olympiakos W3-1 24/10/2012 Schalke L0-2 21/11/2012 Montpellier W2-0 CHELSEA - 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009 25/02/2009 Juventus W1-0 14/04/2009 Liverpool D4-4 06/05/2009 Barcelona D1-1 15/09/2009 Porto W1-0 21/10/2009 Atletico Madrid W4-0 08/12/2009 Apoel Nicosia D2-2 16/03/2010 Internazionale L0-1 28/09/2010 Marseille W2-0 03/11/2010 Spartak Moscow W4-1 23/11/2010 Zilina W2-1 16/03/2011 FC Copenhagen D0-0 06/04/2011 Manchester United L0-1 13/09/2011 Bayer Leverkusen W2-0 19/10/2011 Genk W5-0 06/12/2011 Valencia W3-0 14/03/2012 Napoli W4-1(aet) 04/04/2012 Benfica W2-1 18/04/2012 Barcelona W1-0 19/09/2012 Juventus D2-2 07/11/2012 Shakhtar Donetsk W3-2 05/12/2012 Nordsjaelland W6-1 LIVERPOOL - 2010, 2009 10/03/2009 Real Madrid W4-0 08/04/2009 Chelsea L1-3 16/09/2009 Debrecen W1-0 20/10/2009 Lyon L1-2 09/12/2009 Fiorentina L1-2 MANCHESTER CITY - 2013, 2012 14/09/2011 Napoli D1-1 18/10/2011 Villarreal W2-1 07/12/2011 Bayern Munich W2-0 03/10/2012 Borussia Dortmund D1-1 06/11/2012 Ajax D2-2 21/11/2012 Real Madrid D1-1 MANCHESTER UNITED - 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009 11/03/2009 Internazionale W2-0 07/04/2009 Porto D2-2 29/04/2009 Arsenal W1-0 30/09/2009 Wolfsburg W2-1 03/11/2009 CSKA Moscow D3-3 25/11/2009 Besiktas L0-1 10/03/2010 AC Milan W4-0 07/04/2010 Bayern Munich W3-2 14/09/2010 Rangers D0-0 20/10/2010 Bursaspor W1-0 07/12/2010 Valencia D1-1 15/03/2011 Marseille W2-1 12/04/2011 Chelsea W2-1 04/05/2011 Schalke W4-1 28/05/2011 Barcelona L1-3 27/09/2011 Basel D3-3 02/11/2011 Otelul Galati W2-0 22/11/2011 Benfica D2-2 19/09/2012 Galatasaray W1-0 23/10/2012 Braga W3-2 05/12/2012 CFR Cluj L0-1 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR - 2011 25/08/2010 Young Boys W4-0 29/09/2010 FC Twente W4-1 02/11/2010 Internazionale W3-1 24/11/2010 Werder Bremen W3-0 09/03/2011 AC Milan D0-0 13/04/2011 Real Madrid L0-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 4 February, 2013 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Good shout Steve, I'd say that Chelsea game definitely stands out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Cluj winning at Old Trafford and Liverpool thumping Madrid 4-0?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I'd put my money on twitchy being involved. Levy finds out, then disassociates himself in the summer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Cluj winning at Old Trafford and Liverpool thumping Madrid 4-0?? Unlikely, IMO. No dodgy decisions that I can remember, United put out a severely weakened team against Cluj (having only just scraped a win in the return game with a full-strength side), and Madrid were rubbish when Liverpool beat them - Liverpool won the first leg 1-0 in the Bernabeu as well. Realistically, surely the whole point of match-fixing is to win money and not get caught, so it'll probably be a really inoccuous game where the outcome wasn't actually much of a surprise, hence it all went below the radar for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 The article further down does say United Kingdom, so might not be just England (even if there isn't a lot more there). Although I really enjoyed them going through, Celtic's last day drama in their group is suspicious. A very, very soft penalty to see them through in the final minutes of their game, while at Barcelona the locals fielded 2 of their usual 11 starting players and were passive the whole way through except for when Messi came on for the last 5 minutes and Benfica started to get desperate (after sitting back when Spartak Moscow equalized earlier). I hope we see some arrests in Lyon and Zagreb after that disgraceful show between OL and Dynamo a couple of years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Looks like our old pal Tancredi Palmeri is about to give some details away, well of some games anyway Tancredi Palmeri @tancredipalmeri And in the next tweets, the detail of international games suspected of match-fixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 The Welsh team The New Saints play in Shropshire so it could be any of their games in the earlier qualifying rounds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I hope we see some arrests in Lyon and Zagreb after that disgraceful show between OL and Dynamo a couple of years back. I remember that, whole thing stank of match fixing. Didn't Zagreb concede 2 in about 30 seconds or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Twitchy. Stinks of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Twitchy. Stinks of him. no it doesn't; you need to watch these accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 no it doesn't; you need to watch these accusations. I would imagine pulling off such a thing would require intelligence, subtlety & discretion. None of these are traits that exactly spring to mind when thing of SaggyChops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Twitchy. Stinks of him. Crabby my old mucker, Think your gonna be disappointed. Hes Teflon coated nothing seems to stick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Can't see why any player or even officail for an English club would be involved in this. Really not worth their while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Only one UK match suggests it's a team that's not been in the Champs League regularly during that time. (To me anyway, would have thought they'd have found a bigger pattern if a team had been there more.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Only one UK match suggests it's a team that's not been in the Champs League regularly during that time. (To me anyway, would have thought they'd have found a bigger pattern if a team had been there more.) it's not about the teams, it's about the refs. If you want to work it all out and go all Hercule Poirot you need to follow the refs. Hungariian,Turkish,Slovenian whatever, that's what will tell you matches are fixed, it's not about players per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I guess best case scenario for the English game at the moment is that it's suspicion on the opposition in whatever game it was. (That said, if this is the tip of the iceberg, I'd find it bloody funny if it eventually turns out Pompey's brief foray into Europe is brought into it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Surely it's about how a game that is a dead rubber then effects a result elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 no it doesn't; you need to watch these accusations. No, you're right... he just immediately came to mind. Would be very surprised if an English club/club's officials were involved though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Only one UK match suggests it's a team that's not been in the Champs League regularly during that time. (To me anyway, would have thought they'd have found a bigger pattern if a team had been there more.) I don't think it is an English team that the finger is being pointed at, just that one game played in this country is thought to have been affected - so that could be a ref, linesman, oppossition keeper, even the opposition kitman giving out team news, who knows. Can't see any big names from this country being caught up in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I would not be surprised if there are far more in the premier league. It is a huge business after all, and one that can be fixed very easily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 It will be some dodgy decsion by a ref, an early red or last minute penalty prehaps. Not sure if I could stand the whinging if it was in a game that Liverpool lost!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I would not be surprised if there are far more in the premier league. It is a huge business after all, and one that can be fixed very easily! The fact that there's so much money sloshing around in players and agents' pockets in this country makes it much less corruptible, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 I'd lay odds on it being Saints and the corrupt dealings of Klaus and unmentioned colleagues. Could even imagine his testimony to FIFA disclosed who he was involved with!!! No wonder our results in his final two years we so odd and got us relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Have seen something posted on Twitter by 101greatestgoals that it was a Liverpool game that they won 1-0. The opposing keeper was paid to let in more than 2.5 goals......fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Just mentioned MLT on talksport in saying what he admitted to doing DOES fall within the boundries of the term "match fixing" in this investigation..... not that he is being investigated though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Lyon/Zagreb definitely. Ajax had 2 good goals disallowed for offside with disgracefully late flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Question is was it who won that was fixed or was it once of the more esoteric area's that can be bet on like total goals, cards, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Being reported in most places as being the following match: Liverpool 1-0 Debrecen Also, another game 'fixed'... Fiorentina vs Debrecen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2013 Share Posted 4 February, 2013 Being reported in most places as being the following match: Liverpool 1-0 Debrecen Also, another game 'fixed'... Fiorentina vs Debrecen The Debrecen keeper in both of those games has since been banned for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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