David Miliband to step down as MP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21947497

Leaving to work for a charity in the States.

I'd have put money on him taking over when Labour finally see sense and get shot of his liability of a brother. Who does that leave when Miliband Jr gets the boot?

If he was the leader of the Labour Party they would be doing much better. And at least looking like they could provide an alternative.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21947497

 

Leaving to work for a charity in the States.

 

I'd have put money on him taking over when Labour finally see sense and get shot of his liability of a brother. Who does that leave when Miliband Jr gets the boot?

Yvette Cooper? Chuka Umanna?

Sorry to see DM go - decent man

Labour still well ahead in the polls.

Labour still well ahead in the polls.

Thanks to dissatisfaction rather then policy.

Imagine where they would be if they had someone competent in charge! (And yes, I vote blue.)

Cooper. She is an awesome political animal.

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We have the idiot TUC to thank for Ed being the leader. Got little confidence in him or Ed Balls.

Labour have some good guys waiting such as Andy Burnham or Jim Murphy.

Cooper. She is an awesome political animal.

Think she's a good shout. She's a little tarnished by the expenses scandal, but the "they were all at it, m'lud" excuse will be good for a few Parliaments yet.

Personally, regardless of party. If any are 'career politicians,' they should be banned from office by default.

Eddie Izzard, anybody?

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor

Eddie Izzard, anybody?

 

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor

Why not! At least he has a perspective other then his education system and party. Regardless of whether I agree with his politics he would offer more thorough experience then 95% of his party peers.

Eddie Izzard, anybody?

 

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3044/eddie_izzard_claims_i_ll_be_london_mayor

"I'm going to chuck in comedy...".

Thats probably the only funny thing he's ever said.

We have the idiot TUC to thank for Ed being the leader. Got little confidence in him or Ed Balls.

Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly.

"I'm going to chuck in comedy...".

 

Thats probably the only funny thing he's ever said.

Nah, he's alright. Can be a bit grating on some of his stuff, but I do like his geeky stuff.

Now if you want to talk proper annoying, you've always got Jimmy "no gig too corporate" Carr and Michael "tons fatter than he looks" McIntyre.

More Union sponsored politicians less ppe oxbridge graduates who have never worked and have no concept of the workers of this Country, privileged careerist politicians should not be alllowed anywhere near a safe seat to enhance their profile.

Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly.

The fact remains the oppositions leader is a bellend and he got in off the unions back and has little impact since he has been leader.

Isn`t he going to work for International Rescue? I wonder what Thunderbird number he will be allocated??

Personally, regardless of party. If any are 'career politicians,' they should be banned from office by default.

My father once said to me (although he almost certainly nicked the quote from somebody else!)...

"The desire to be a politician is exactly what makes somebody unsuitable to be one"

Isn`t he going to work for International Rescue? I wonder what Thunderbird number he will be allocated??

His nickname is brains.

More Union sponsored politicians less ppe oxbridge graduates who have never worked and have no concept of the workers of this Country, privileged careerist politicians should not be alllowed anywhere near a safe seat to enhance their profile.

And the ironic thing is Ed tries to make out he's your average Joe, the tw*t has never done a days graft outside of party politics in his life.

And the ironic thing is Ed tries to make out he's your average Joe, the tw*t has never done a days graft outside of party politics in his life.

If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband

If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband

I'd have to have been living under a rock for the past year not to know that the amount he harps on about it, in that notoriously rough London suburb..

He's never had a real job outside of politics, Cameron is the best of a very bad bunch, at least worked in PR for 7 years. So he went on cushy unpaid trips over to Harvard, only able to do so because of his privileged background. And come on, a bit of political research is hardly a career? On his experience he wouldn't be put in charge of a company, let alone a country.

Forgets to mention they had two houses, safer to stick to the stories of getting beaten up eh Ed. Its utterly cringe worthy and untruthful the way he pretends to be some working class hero.

If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband

Man of the people my arse, he's from pure champagne socialist stock.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1735/ed_miliband_the_wrong_side_of_the_tracks

Anybody who says "I vote blue" or "I vote red" is a massive part of the problem with our political system?

If you read his Wiki entry you'll see that he went to state schools and has worked outside of parliament in political research and teaching at Harvard. Much as David Cameron did but of course he had a much more priveleged upbringing. So I reckon Ed is more in touch with your average Joe than Cameron and his Bullingdon buddies will ever be.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Miliband

Ed and David Miliband had a very privileged upbringing, they have never denied this.

Ed and David Miliband had a very privileged upbringing, they have never denied this.

I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege.

The fact remains the oppositions leader is a bellend and he got in off the unions back and has little impact since he has been leader.

His stock has risen slightly since his paymasters told him to keep his mouth firmly closed unless its absolutely necessary for him to speak. You hardly ever hear him holding forth on any subject nowadays.

I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege.

So you agree they were privileged then? In short nothing to do with the tradtional Labour movement, the Labour party has lost its direction, they are more liberal than socialist.

His stock has risen slightly since his paymasters told him to keep his mouth firmly closed unless its absolutely necessary for him to speak. You hardly ever hear him holding forth on any subject nowadays.

Good because the unions will never give him the opportunity again to hold power.

So you agree they were privileged then? In short nothing to do with the tradtional Labour movement, the Labour party has lost its direction, they are more liberal than socialist.

It depends on your interpretation of privelege I guess. To me, it's about nurturing parenting and consideration of values. It's not about money.

Good because the unions will never give him the opportunity again to hold power.

If you think that the only politicians 'controlled' by power blocks are on the left, you are so mistaken. Far more control is exercised by big business and big money over the right wing parties. The only ones not so controlled are perhaps the Liberals but then it's difficult to know what their policies are in the first place as they sway with the wind.

Anybody who says "I vote blue" or "I vote red" is a massive part of the problem with our political system?

Really, this. People so entrenched and obsessed with "the left" and "the right" and which side of the divide they are. i think I've voted for red and blue at various stages in my life, and will continue to make a conscious choice each time based on their merits. To not do so is a bit blinkered, isn't it?

If you think that the only politicians 'controlled' by power blocks are on the left, you are so mistaken. Far more control is exercised by big business and big money over the right wing parties. The only ones not so controlled are perhaps the Liberals but then it's difficult to know what their policies are in the first place as they sway with the wind.

I am not mistaken as I have not mentioned anything about the right.

I grant you they were lucky enough in that they had very supportive parents and got to mix with the likes of Tony Benn when they were growing up. And they had state educations - that's a bonus in itself. His parents were immigrants and his father was a Professor so probably not that loaded if money is your measure of privelege.

I would hardly call having to put up with that boring old windbag weddgie Benn privileged or lucky. No wonder he's such a geek, whilst other kids were playing in the street,he was discussing clause 4 , jack jones' tuc speech or the manifesto.

It's a bit of a shame he's leaving Parliament, he'll be a loss for both his party and for British politics. Had the situation worked out differently he might have made a interesting Prime Minister one day methinks. From t'other side of the House of Commons you could say much the same about Micheal Portillo. Too often in this country lesser men clamber to the top of the 'greasy pole' while their more able counterparts fall by the wayside.

Talent is always in short supply and we seem to waste too much of it.

A labour politician I actually don't mind and quite like. Mental that they chose his younger geeky brother as leader. Fools.

Ed got the backing of the TUC, that wont happen again, a real left party should start up, not one of old striking and wanting silly demands from employers but a relevant leftist party for all people.

The current regime and cartel of parties are simply apart by the squash and racket clubs they go to, thats not a class thing its a real issue, how can these privileged people identify with us?

They cant and some wont, I would prefer for the sake of more peoples interest in British politics a real right party, a real left party and centre ground ones, proportional representation (the big two dont want it obviously as it weakens them, a good reason to have it then, European Countries manage pretty good with it and engagement would go up no end) and the absolute scrapping of things like expenses (can come from party funding or their salary!) and parliamentry privilege and accountability to the Country not the party.

Finally if the parties are determined to pursue positive discrimation over ability let there be a proper representation of society, by that I mean % of people as mp's, if they want a % of women mp's there also should be a % of muslims, hindu's and jew's in power, on top of that a correct % of able persons from comprehensive, Union and working class backgrounds.

Thats real demographic power and political correctness, one that will never happen as the ruling class regardless of colour, creed and religion is exactly that.

Fairness and respect for all.

Not quite right actually. Individual unions have votes, based on membership numbers, and those individual unions cast their votes accordingly.

You're right, but there was, no doubt some organisation in their voting. Did any unions back David?

You're right, but there was, no doubt some organisation in their voting. Did any unions back David?

Don't know TBH

For those on here saying there should be a genuine leftist option, it seems that some are trying to organise one

http://leftunity.org/appeal/

and there are lots of on-line left-leaning pressure groups like Change, Avaaz etc

He's on a roll at the moment, isnt he. First his seat in parliament, now he's jumped ship at Sunderland just because they hired a fascist. No sense of humour, some people.

Whereas, had he stayed as a director at Sunderland knowing De Canio's views, he would have been called a hypocrite

#somepeoplecantwin

Whereas, had he stayed as a director at Sunderland knowing De Canio's views, he would have been called a hypocrite

 

#somepeoplecantwin

I know.

#whoosh