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  1. Top comment. JWP = Future Saints + England Captain.
  2. Read Money ball. very relevant aspect concerning the likelihood of college players picked in the draft making it versus high school stars. Basically its incredibly hit and miss for high school players but you get a much more reliable chance of a great player if they are good at 16/17/18. It sounds obvious i know but recruiting more talented 16/17/18 years olds and less 10 years olds is the way forward to focus on to get value players it suggests.
  3. These guys from Italy had quite a good negotiating strategy he Roman Military Julius Caesar Roman Military The Roman military was the most successful and powerful in history, dominating the Western world for over a thousand years. The size, strength and organization of their infantry force wouldn’t be equaled again for another thousand years. http://www.ancientmilitary.com/images/roman-empire.gif
  4. Financial brinkmanship aside, De Laurentis cannot have a bad 1-1 home draw against Palermo and selling a youngish full Italian International forward in consecutive PR output. Makes him look clueless. His team cannot score more than 1 against a poor team and he is selling an international forward, who is Italian no less? If Napoli had won 3-0 MG would be here already. That's my take on it, his emotional reaction to the result has prejudiced the sale. I don't know how long he takes to cool down but i don't think he has got long. For me this is more off than on now as SFC will not be mucked about with.
  5. In response to the OP: Business decision. Good for everyone.
  6. Very Good point. I too thought it VERY odd that we did not make a MEGA song and dance about the two lads especially our skipper winning the Euro's. I can't think why there wasn't much much more made of it given we are hardly replete with trophy winning success stories and as a club our marketing/brand/PR machine don't waste an opportunity to big up anything SFC related... apart from the obvious deduction that there was already an issue brewing between Jose and SFC that preceded Puel arriving and that this cast a shadow over his return to (late) preseason. Connected to his new agent is another inference we can reasonably make given the absence of "funniness" associated with Jose whilst he was with a different agent So THIS cannot originally be Claude's fault.
  7. Whatever the real reasons for Jose leaving (if he does leave) head up backside, greed for ££, bored, fall out with the management - whats not been mentioned is that a three year deal for him at say £80,000pw does not cost £80,000 times by 156 weeks = £12,480,00.00. First of all get your mind around that. £12.5million pounds for three years work. No, in fact what a three year deal at that figure actually costs Southampton is £12,480,000 PLUS the £9,000,000.00 we could get by selling him today. In other words £21,480.000.00. For a good player that's true with no resale value, a player in the latter stages of his career, a player who is being a bit funny these days perhaps thinks he deserves thats and more and maybe the management/owners don't agree. Maybe the management/owners think/feel we have another VVD lined up who will cost £10-£15M and be younger and has a resale value. In that light its not personal its just business. Far from having to push to get out maybe SFC are very happy to collect a previously unexpected (up until the euro's) decent transfer fee for him. Its got an echo of SRL in it without the funniness.
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    JWP

    JWP has been at Southampton Academy then full club since he was 8 years old playing in every age category. About 14 years! If there is one player at the club in the first team that's Saints through and through and represents the best of the Southampton Way its him. James Ward Prowse. Decent bloke, very very good footballer and excellent role model to kids considering playing for Saints. I honestly don't know whats has possessed you keyboard warriors to have a hate-in on him ~ are you really so keen to suggest being born in Portsmouth to Portsmouth fans as meaning he is a skate for life? Jeez i expect you hate Bobby Stokes too....Do you know how many Saints fans live and work in the PO postcode? That have blue relatives partners even sons or daughters? Are they all skates too? You probably don't ( i do not know but its not zero put it that way as my saints supporting girlfriend lives in Gosport and there's plenty Saints fans there i can assure you, though we keep a different profile at times) but it's irrelevant anyway as it sounds better on a cyber lynch mob to dismiss JWP as being s far away from being a saint as is possible due to the accident of birth in a one-liner. I've followed Saints 53 years of my life home and away and have experienced the delights of fratton park and saints pfc games complete with concrete ticker tape parades and friendly meetings to discuss crochet so am under no illusions about the blind hatred that does exist on both sides. But turning on JWP with this skate trash talk is poor fare. Having said that, and here's the one you will like, there's a awful lot of low-lifes using support for Southampton FC as an excuse to avoid the anger management classes they really ought to be going on and especially when he and we have not scored or won a while the anger builds up and its nice to metaphorically kick the **** out of some bloke cos hes born in portsmouth even if the truth is hes done more for Southampton, the team the city and England than many here will ever do. And still does. Give yourselves a break from being nasty. Lifes not that bad.
  9. Giordano

    JWP

    Well it seems I've accidentally dropped into a JWP hate -fest. To everyone saying he's a bad player, a slow player, a weak player, an ineffective player I say you don't captain your country at under21's to a Toulon trophy if you are that bad.Saints tactics do not play to his strengths. He plays a very specific expert role for England and it suits his game and has been very successful in it and so has England indeed such that he is virtually first name on the sheet. He plays as quarterback just ahead of an athletic backline and is there to keep the ball rotating be available for a simple pass from the defenders and then give it to the pacey skillful powerful young England forwards to bosh it into the net. He takes every corner and free kick and penalties. Crap players do not do that. A manager with less pressure twenty thirty years ago might make the team play around this kind of home grown talent rather than make him play alternate games fitting into a system with a load of imports. Mark my words: JWP will be a full England International. If he stays at Saints which i sincerely hope he will captain Southampton and be club captain for a long long time and one day he will be our new Manager - in 2030 to be precise. And he IS one of our own, Saints through and through and you ought to be goddamn proud we have a genuine bloke and player like that at our club in this day and age of disloyal uncommitted fake cheating over hyped lazy mercenaries.
  10. Saints outed as having bid $14M for Gabbiadini. Napoli value him at $18-20. Some others only want him on loan. http://www.gazzamercato.it/juventus/napoli-piu-premier-che-bundesliga-per-gabbiadini-southampton/?intcmp=gabbiadini-premier&refresh_ce-cp
  11. Agents on corriera says he cannot tell you who Gabbiadini is going to- "even under torture" but it will be bundesliga or epl. He fits Saints needs and Saints total news blackout modus operandii. And if hes sub $20m i would say its a fair price for a versatile player with an appreciated resale value in 2/3 years when hes 27/28 exactly like Saints usually love to do... http://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-mercato/2017/01/09-19745241/pagliari_gabbiadini_via_la_decisione_e_presa_/
  12. The practices MLT described date back to at least the mid 1970's. I know because i was one of them. They were not limited to SFC signed up young players or "good" players. Many children invited to residential soccer camps under the saints umbrella suffered those practices at that time, football team mate friends who were there with me experiencing the same thing. The numbers of kids interfered with is huge. There were at least two coaches/staff involved. Southampton FC of today is an extremely laudable organization and parents should have no concerns about child welfare when in Saints care. In the middle/late seventies onwards I know that was not the case.
  13. I would say that almost certainly it played a part. Which then further reinforces the not often spoken about feeling but relatively common knowledge in city circles that we've been up for sale for quite a while.
  14. Duncan, I was designated penalty taker in most of my teams during my (now distant) playing days. If we got awarded a penalty and some other teammate unilaterally decided he was taking it I would NOT walk back to the edge of penalty area totally resigned to that without at the very least getting an explanation or new instruction from skipper/manager. But in that situations you have to bear in mind a striker like Austin who knows there's a penalty awarded is like a shark that's sensed blood in the water...you gear up to kill not to go to sleep.......if you not scored for a while been a bit injured a while that need to score is like an obsession overriding normal thinking processes sometimes...and thats what think happened...he gopt the blood lust... So- yes in that situation last night, to you, Tadic might seem disgracefully petulant and appearing NOT to be a team player by arguing over it - but NO designated penalty taker should ever be afraid to step up ~ and that's what Tadic did. If Tadic goes away without stepping up he's NOT the designated penalty taker nor is he an instinctive penalty taker sensing blood in the water. You can see that Austin is probably NOT the designated penalty taker and that Tadic clearly thinks he IS because of that scene. What's not been mentioned is Austin mouthing "My pen, my pen" as his explanation to Tadic's obvious bemused quizzing whilst he shields the ball. That's quite funny and revealing. It's schoolboy schoolyard rules ~ if you got the pen you can take the pen. Austin was talking back to basics football language in a key high pressure moment to his non-english first language colleague. Perhaps what was most impressive was the skipper sorting it out so directly. That's a natural leader for you. VVD saw the situation and instantly summed up that it was better to let Charlie take the pen than to pull him off it and let Dusan have it. Proved why he is a worthy captain in that one decision. IF Dusan were designated penalty taker I'd expect skipper to know that. And in that instance by pulling Tadic off the pen VVD's actions were a supreme act of authority imposition and evidence of great decision making ability under pressure which may reverberate beyond this match ~ because I think we all are aware that he is lined up as Fonte's successor as skipper. VVD got it right because Charlie scored, but I think if I was VVD I would be having a chat with them two in private after the match, with advice from Jose and Puel. VVD sensed Austins need to score was more important that Dusan's. He was probably right as long as Dusan did not sulk, which would have taken a massive effort of will not to as the call obviously hurts his pride and hes very much a passion player. Work to do to sort that out! Luckily but not unexpectedly from a top International player on mega wages Dusan's professionalism was evident even if it wasn't his best game. ION : I liked Austin's guts, his blood lust to score, the ballsiness of the situation and I liked the composure and execution of that penalty in that extra pressure backdrop and the desperate to score indicators it emitted. He proved himself in true gladiatorial spirit in the arena. That has lit the touchpaper for his goalscoring season i believe because if it has'nt nothing will (as long as we play full backs who will cross the ball often like Martina who out-crossed Targett 5 to 1 - Lukaku must be wishing he had Martina crossing for him ....! ) Which brings us onto that subject of style of play - If we play wingers who want to dribble around 3 players every time Charlie is not going to score much. If you give him the ball in the penalty area often though he will score. I like tricky wingers and players who are technically gifted but i hope Puel took note that our two/three most effective players were Austin, Martina and Romeu, and these are three of our most direct style of players- more vertical than horizontal...! Anyhow, give Tadic a break he was not wrong but it should end up well!
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