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By the way, just out of interest you understand - how old are you? So anyway I'll play with ya once again Kid; if you care to checkback on Mane, the hottest Saints peoperty in years best since MLT etc etc - as indeed he is proving - he was "always" going to Man U. . . . . http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/10/15/sadio-mane-reveals-why-he-was-right-to-choose-liverpool-over-man/ Now remind us, who did he sign for? . . . . .Sorta tuning in?

Let's get something right here SKD and sum up if we can, this transcends mere football, scousers, saints and any other refuge you're trying to crawl into, you are wishing a fellow human being serious injury and the really awful thing is that you don't apparently see anything wrong in that at all; young and impressionable people no doubt log into these discussions and at each point your obnoxious comment is highlighted you idiotically attempt to defend your stance using very poor, if not hypocritical logic. So mate, If Lallana did anything "wrong" then wishing him serious injury must make it right in your world, which in its turn provides an insight into the world you inhabit and one is compelled to say what a horrible world it must be. Getting the point now in any shape or form? We can only live in hope.

Try to fair to people's rationalisation processes on this Forum, SKD, since to any fair-minded person little of that response of yours makes real sense in the light of what has preceded it in this debate, in regard to what you have previously written. If you wish Lallana serious injury as you claim and is irrefutably evidenced herein, wriitten down as it is in this Thread, how can you then say you don't begrudge the lad leaving? If you wish him serious injury then the obviously corollary is you must de facto "begrude him leaving" ; for example are you asking us to accept that had he of not signed for Liverpool FC and was still at the Saints you would be wishing him serious injury then? As you can see [we hope!] the postion you are taking in regard to Lallana is a position that in any form of logic is mutually exclusive. Hence we can claim what you write post that comment does not stand scrutiny. So then let's move on to "stabbing your employers in the back" any rational examination what you offer there, provides further evidence that you don't grasp what's involved in this at all, blinded by your own venom as you are. Obtaining £25 million for a player who cost basically nowt is being stabbed in the back? Let's face it a portion of this Thread shows tremendous glee and hope in the fact that Lallana was failing and was going to fail at Liverpool FC. Had he of failed at Liverpool that section of fans would have been ecstatic and there would have been shouts along the lines of, "£25 mill for that crap, what a deal we struck!" and "How very clever we all were," and so on and so forth, there would have been no mention of being stabbed in the back at all, just pats on the back for having obtained £25 mill for player who was thought to be good, then got found out at a major club; some might say schadenfreude at its most shameful. Liverpool took a chance on Lallana there were no other serious contenders for his signature at the time and Saints received £25 mill which many fans [Liverpool and impartial] were claiming was too much for the player at the time and at £25 mill Liverpool took something of a gamble in signing him; as I write above there were no other real contenders for his signature. So what unfolded can hardly be summed up by your comment of "being stabbed in the back" at all. As for your other gem, "Maybe I'm just a better man than you" well that is a mere psychological deflection mechanism on your part, which in it's turn indicates the mistake you realise have made in you claiming you wish Lallana serious injury, since whether you are a better man than me or not, has no real validity whatsoever in regard to what is under discussion here, hence that comment of yours is as stated merely an attempt at personalisation in order to deflect. So then you could be a better man than me who knows? The evidence herein, however, certainly shows you are perhaps a much more bitter man than me. Concomitant to which when it comes to writing, "you wish Lallana serious injury", there is further indication you may have to gain the courage and be man enough to try to admit to yourself that such a mindset shows a very serious flaw in your make-up as a human being indeed.

However, SKD, to wish someone serious injury as cold and as calculated as you have done here, and publicly so at that, takes matters to a new level. Let's say you're employed by a company in a certain position and another company offers you a similar position at say twice to three times your current salary, with more lucrative contracts on offer, allied to even better perks and expense accounts etc. etc. are you implying you wouldn't take the new job? Of course you would! We all would and many of us would pull every trick in the book to get that much better job; and that's the way society in general ticks [whether we might like it or not]. Now of course football has an emotional dimension attached to it that "ordinary" employment might not, however, should that emotional attachement psychologically destabilize you to the level where you definitively wish serious injury to befall someone, it is most definitely time to take a long, hard, serious look at yourself in relation to the cause of that emotional destabilisation in general and yourself as a human being in particular.

Probably why they destroyed Chelsea at Stamford Bridge and are currently top of the league.

The key as with most of us in lfe Manuel, whether we like it or not - is MONEY. Big Money gets the best players in the main, dare I say Mane . Man City were a Yo-Yo-Club, in comes Prince Mansour offering a min of £100,000 and then above per week to players and City overnight become a major football force. Big money is the trick.

Yes, NS, Lallana is now beginning to look an absolute snip at £25Mill. "Engine room" of club and country now.

Yes very true WC, well observed, that being the case we can add that Ince crossed the alps perhaps, but not the East Lancs or M62. So unless Klopp and Mourinho ditch that unwritten law, the chances of Shaw merely signing for Liverpool are very slim, having said that if anyone is likely to merely shrug their shoulders and complete such a deal it's Jose, that's if he's there long enough.

Liverpool, Man U have an unwritten law no player crosses the East Lancs road or the M62 to sign for the other side, the last player to do so was over 50 years ago a Man U reserve player. Though Klopp and Mourinho might try try to create a piece of football history and notoriety we could suppose.

They carry on as they are and they'll be worth a £159 million.

The fact that you were subject to that vileness while you were with your child sums matters up totally and is an indictment of the way society is going. IMHO you most definitely made the correct move by leaving the carriage, otherwise I doubt very much had you spoken out that they would have desisted from subjecting you and your child to Direct Verbal Abuse and where might that have led to? Discretion is the better part of valour and the mere fact that you felt compelled to "have ago" in such dire circumstances, speaks very highly of you LDH.

On that basis he must feel very aggrieved over something this season, he must have been MOTM or MOTM candidate in every game he's played.

Really? My bad! My sincerest apologies FAS - it would seem I'm just not with things at the moment, do forgive!

What a seemingly belligerent person you are, fascist tendencies duly noted. So any thoughts on the football matter to hand, in that the post may or may not contain merit in regard to the fact such corruption may well have impinged on the likes of the Saints in terms of bungs and illegal approaches for their stars etc? Or do you just wish to continue exhibiting your pronounced predilection for arse-hole tendencies? Your choice.