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LOL it would have been the only one my grandad knew!!!!

10 (but had an educated guess on the Dortmund ground). As it said at the end I spend too much time on Google maps plus having a good read of Simon Inglis' books!!!

I really do have to disagree with you there. Southampton has long been a City built on its port and the movement of people. Throughout its history newcomers, be they French, Italians, Spanish, Afro-Caribbean, Asians from the sub continent (or Uganda), Maltese, Chinese, through to the newcomers from Eastern Africa & Eastern Europe have all made this City their home. Currently 1 in 8 are from an ethnic minority group, with that figure rising to 1 in 5 (or even 1 in 4) if you include those immigrants from Eastern Europe. i would accept it doesn't have the concentrations of specific places such as Oldham, Bradford and even London, but it is a multi cultural city with the many benefits that brings with it.

cheers, saw them on Checkatrade and they had decent reviews. cheers for the recommendation

if you could tHat would be great, thanks.

Finally moved in to our place after 6 months building work and still have quite a bit of work left to do inside the house and so the garden has been/is being somewhat neglected. Just spent 8 hours getting rid of ivy at the front and sorting some other bits out when I realised I really could do with some help. Back garden is great, trees, shrubs, flowers, different sections etc, but its not been touched in a year and has gone a bit wild. Could do with some doing the legwork to get it back to a decent starting position. anyone know or can recommend someone???

I don't think you'll find many who are not against militant Islam, particularly the type that manifests itself in brutal atrocities. You don't have to be a part of the EDL to oppose militant and/or extremist Islam. I would suggest some people's interpretation of it is completely backwards, particularly when combined with cultural/tribal contexts & influences. Just as some people's interpretation of Christianity would be deemed by some by being backwards, doesn't mean it all is. I think you'll find these courts, just like the Jewish Beth Din courts & other religious courts supplement our existing civil courts very well. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7233040.stm http://www.religionandsociety.org.uk/uploads/docs/2012_02/1329231240_Douglas_Phase_3_Small_Grant_Block.pdf Think you're really confused here, as these courts have no jurisdiction over criminal matters in the UK. Given your ignorance (no offence meant) of some of the issues above, then I can see how you've come to that misguided point of view. The overwhelming majority of Muslims live in peace and contribute to this country. Islam and the UK seems to work very well for them and the communities they live in. Methinks you might be viewing the past through those rose tinted glasses of yours, as the integration of Afro-Caribbeans, Hindus, Sikhs and other immigrants took time, patience and understanding and was not without its flashpoints and incidents. I thought we had moved on from Muslims being the bogeymen and progressed on to the Poles, Romanians & Bulgarians, but there seems to be some life left in the Muslim bashing.

Im sure that like most Islamophobes, xenophobic and racists, you will always be able to pick out the odd semblance of a rational comment amidst the normal diatribe. Whatever the problem, the EDL or other fringe/extremist groups are not the answer (and the same goes for extreme left, radical Islamists, fundamental Christians etc etc etc). However, I think it would be foolish to ignore the perceived problems (real or imagined) that people feel they have and we should be working together to help resolve, solve or reduce them, but I can say for sure the actions of Robinson and his ilk, along with the Islamic extremists only exacerbate the problem, and certainly are not part of the solution.

Whilst there were some massive differences between the events (one premeditated v one a costly coming together) I did think of the "Corporals Killings" when watching the news the other night, particularly due to the barbaric way in which they were both killed and how the macabre event was captured in film. Also the very public nature of the horrific scenes and how they were played out in front of an audience of hundreds at the scene.

Really? Previous attacks in the UK and the USA have shown no particular discrimation with regards race (or even religion). You only have to look at the victims of the 7/7 bombings to see how indiscriminate these attacks are.

So by your logic we should consider stopping the selling of bananas as they too can be used as a racist slur. It's not the item itself, instead like a watermelon and Kool Aid, its the context and how it is phrased.

There has been much conjecture and discussion on this point as many feel that Islamophbian is indeed not racist, as by its very nature Islam is not restricted to any one particular "race". I'm pretty sure that any attack/threat etc would in the eyes of the CPS be classed as a religious incident and not a racist one (and I certainly wouldn't put one above the other in terms of seriousness). As for why this hasn't been classed as a racist attack, the others have already clearly explained the reasons for that.

Having spent time in "the Deep South" of Tennessee I can safely say that the term is plain and simply racist. Just as you have described the two terms above as being offensive, so is the "fried chicken" insult. It's up there alongside im struggling to understand why some people are struggling with a simple concept. Search the web for the history of the insult, how it's been used and why it is deemed offensive.

Many people agree it is not fair and equal, hence why the Labour amendment looks to end this anomaly. I haven't heard anyone who was pushing for equality of marriage say they don't support the extension of civil partnerships. And as for homosexuality, marriage and the church, well there are different opinions and interpretations. In this link a prominent minister argues for the acceptance of gay marriage and interprets the bible somewhat differently than you have. http://www.christianitymagazine.co.uk/sexuality/stevechalke.aspx

Two loons who are quickly and unequivocally condemned by leaders of their own faith, local community leaders as well as many grass roots Muslims, Londoners, immigrants et al and those heady days of Mo Farah, Ennis, Ohoruogu, Ogogo are soon forgotten. Former Conservative Chairman, Lord Ashcroft's recent survey shed some light on the UK's feelings towards multiculturalism and made pleasant reading. Fortunately, extremists of all political and religious persuasion are in a very tiny minority and the overwhelming majority of UK citizens are wise enough not to indulge in knee jerk sermons and retributions. http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2013/04/19/poll-reveals-huge-public-support-for-multiculturalism http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/22/multiculturalism-won-uk-move-on

But doesn't that just show us that that resentment, hatred and fear is totally irrational and actually just playing in to the hands of the extremists on one side and those on the other who also benefit from the fires being stoked?

Never seen it!! Was going to put Westboro Baptist Church in there at first, but although they are a vile depiction of Christianity, they aren't really guilty of murders and assassinations etc! Looking at some on this thread, then I'm afraid I have to say that these 2?? Murdering scum seem to have got the reaction they were hoping for.

Jihadi extremists are to Islam what the Ku Klux Klan is to Chrisianity.

Muslims from the local Somali community have already been at the murder scene to lay flowers, the Muslim Council of Britain have already issued a release condemning the acts of murder and Twitter and other social media are full of Muslims saying not in my name. http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2333:pr-template&catid=40:press-release

It is indeed a side issue, but an issue that as Peter Tatchell points out needs to be addressed. The way I understand it, the Loughton wrecking amendment that was pretending to resolve this issue was defeated and a Labour amendment that addresses the real issue accepted with a view to extending civil partnerships to heterosexuals in the not too distant future. As for why some heterosexuals desire a civil partnership, then it is claimed that for some they feel marriage has sexist and patriarchal traditions.

Is it just me, or is giving these sickos airtime by playing that video (a) exactly what they wanted to achieve and (b) somewhat voyeuristic??

I don't think we shold allow ourselves to be dragged down in to their disgusting, vile and appalling gutter. These sick and misguided cowards want us to hate them and call for revenge. We need to show our moral fibre and not allow this.

It wasn't that long that British born terrorists were indiscriminately blowing up innocent civilians & assassinating people whilst English men like Jan Taylor and Patrick Hayes were blowing up Harrods. And gang crime moves with the times from the English East End hard men, through the yardies, triads etc. Our biggest threat is currently from British born jihadis. Of course the "influence" and their "cause" emanates from issues abroad, but we haven't got Al Qaeda running amok in this country.

http://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/partnerships/straight-civil-partnerships-defeated A sentiment that Peter Tatchell seems to agree with. Not normally his biggest fan, but he has called it right here with regards equality.

Always thought this season would be about survival, so more than happy to have survived. Was worried how players would make the step up, particularly when two seasons previously they were up against Dagenham, Hartlepool et al. Some players managed to step up, others progressed faster than I thought, whilst some were found out. Inexperience and perhaps being in awe of our opponents caught us out sometimes, as perhaps did having a relatively thin squad. Think the term "mid table" flatters us, so next season would like us to consolidate properly in mid table. Need to strengthen the first team, not just buy squad players.