The Luke Shaw Rumour thread

Might as well start this as I'm sure they'll be plenty more over the next few months after he's had such an impressive first season.

Man Utd

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/319778/?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2328682/Manchester-United-boss-David-Moyes-wants-beat-Chelsea-Luke-Shaw.html

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/469919/20130522/manchester-united-transfer-news-moyes-luke-shaw.htm?

Spurs

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/400405/Southampton-starlet-Luke-Shaw-torn-over-Chelsea-or-Tottenham

http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/tottenham-hotspur/spurs_boss_responds_to_transfer_rumours_about_villa_rebic_and_shaw_1_2198653

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/03/19/tottenham-plan-early-15m-summer-bid-for-southampton-starlet-luke-shaw/?

http://www.givemefootball.com/336161-tottenham-battle-chelsea-for-165mrated-premier-league-starlet?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/21/tottenham-ready-to-battle-chelsea-for-southampton-star-luke-shaw-3552638/?

Arsenal

(From January)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2254676/Luke-Shaw-transfer--Arsenal-pole-position.html

http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/366402

http://www.theweek.co.uk/football/50705/southamptons-luke-shaw-tipped-join-arsenal-next-year

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-target-luke-shaw-pledges-1527322?

http://www.givemefootball.com/346008-tottenham-to-battle-chelsea-for-premier-league-starlet?

Chelsea

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/19/chelsea-believe-they-have-won-the-race-for-southampton-star-luke-shaw-3800342/?

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/400405/Southampton-starlet-Luke-Shaw-torn-over-Chelsea-or-Tottenham

http://www.givemefootball.com/346008-tottenham-to-battle-chelsea-for-premier-league-starlet?

http://www.clubcall.com/chelsea/blues-want-saints-ace-1552877.html?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2284192/Chelsea-set-land-10m-Southampton-teenager-Luke-Shaw-replace-Ashley-Cole.html

If we are at all serious about pushing for European football in years to come, we must not sell him, or clyne for that matter!

would be silly to accept 15m, its not like we need it. lets face it we spunked 12m on Ramirez so we are not exactly hard up

No way we would sell for £15mill.

He has already agreed to sign a deal with Saints this summer, so won't be joining Tottenham. As for the article suggesting Saints would find it hard to turn down a £15m bid with £8m upfront, signing Ramirez for £12m and spending over £35m this season shows the intent of the club and lack of need to sell its youngsters anymore.

Am I right in thinking that he has just signed a long term deal with the club?

Am I right in thinking that he has just signed a long term deal with the club?

Pre-contract agreement that becomes official on his 18th Birthday. I believe.

Pre-contract agreement that becomes official on his 18th Birthday. I believe.

5 year deal wasn't it?

5 year deal wasn't it?

I don't think they actually put a number of years on it, but said it was "similar to Ward-Prowse" - who is now on a 5 year deal.

This is a good idea, we will have different clubs linked to Shaw every week until he does eventually leave.

Keep it to one thread rather than having 2,000 following every link

Better for the enviroment

I take it these pre-contract agreements are legally binding?

I'm looking forward to the Guly and Fox threads.

I take it these pre-contract agreements are legally binding?

I don't think they are, but I think it protects to "selling" club to a decent fee.

I'm sure MLG knows all the intricate details.

Here's the OS article

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/adkins-delighted-with-shaw-pledge-590773.aspx

And my Saintsweb article:

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/content.php?378-Luke-Shaw-verbally-commits-long-term-future-to-Saints

I take it these pre-contract agreements are legally binding?

If he has indeed signed a pre-contract agreement then yes, it's legally binding.

I'm looking forward to the Guly and Fox threads.

Fox to Forest i think

Fox to Forest i think

Can't see it if they go up ! Maybe if they don't though and chasing promotion next season.

Can't see it if they go up ! Maybe if they don't though and chasing promotion next season.

They were interested in Jan apparently

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267313/Nottingham-Forest-chase-Southamptons-Danny-Fox.html

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42386-Danny-Fox-to-Nottingham-Forest/page2

I think that Shaw will be another Lallana, respect the club that stood by him and supported him from the age of 10, unlike Bale, Walcoot and Oxo

For example, ****s

They were interested in Jan apparently

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267313/Nottingham-Forest-chase-Southamptons-Danny-Fox.html

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42386-Danny-Fox-to-Nottingham-Forest/page2

Different manager. And they would have seen how poor he has been for us this season. If they go up, they'll go for better than Fox

I think that Shaw will be another Lallana, respect the club that stood by him and supported him from the age of 10, unlike Bale, Walcoot and Oxo

 

For example, ****s

Nice thought but unless we can match the money Man U, Chelsea ect will offer he will leave. Money talks + playing for Man U or Chelsea guarentees England caps for him

Different manager. And they would have seen how poor he has been for us this season. If they go up, they'll go for better than Fox

Youre probs right.

Withdrawn injured from U21's

Other teams know how good he is and can be. You tell them that we know how good he is and that in a couple of years time he will be worth 20m plus and therefore thats his price.

If the club asking about him don't like it then bothered, he is our player.

Im sure Cortese sees it like this and I have total faith he will bat away suitors.

If he has indeed signed a pre-contract agreement then yes, it's legally binding.

At 17 Shaw is classed as a minor meaning under contract law he isn't classed as competent For the contract to be legally binding, when he turns 18 he's classed as an adult and any contract he signs becomes valid. The club's offer of a contract to Shaw is however legally binding. So until he signs that proper contract he can still decide to go elsewhere.

Spurs are after him as a ready made replacement for Bale. Well they can knob off. As can the others. Yes I can see big clubs wanting him, and perhaps his head will turn, but we'll really challenge next season if we stay up and reinforce. We're where we are in the League table this year because it took us a while to find our feet in the division, new players hadn't bedded, we missed players like Cork, and we had to wait a while to find a decent Keeper and Left back. We now have both - and with even more reinforcements in the summer, I fail to see why we can't be a challenging top 8 side next season. But that would mean keeping our youngsters like Shaw.

How much money would tempt Cortese? Hopefully none. There are perhaps one or two crown jewels we could afford to sell if we had to, Ramirez for one, (perhaps even Lambert and Cork if the money was ridiculous) and find good or better replacements for, but players like Shaw, Clyne, Morgan and Adam are who we should be building the team around.

Incidentally, I was going to post this on a seperate thread but as Shaw has this one, could you see us converting Shaw into a winger as Spurs did with Bale? Granted he's more valuable to us as a left back, but with his attacking play and crossing, I could see it happen as an option.

The club has a clear philosophy to build a young team of predominantly English players that is capable of competing in the top half of the Premier League. We bought the likes of Clyne, Rodriguez and Ramirez in the summer for a reason, and have extended Schneiderlin and Lallana's contracts on long term basis for the same reason. We will not be selling Shaw any time soon, unless someone comes along and offers silly money, in excess of £20m. Cortese will be well aware that he will be worth more than that by the time he reaches his 20's too.

Make no mistake, Shaw has been known by the big clubs for a few years. The media linking him to clubs now is just based on their visibility of him rather than any club going 'This Shaw kid looks good, who is he?'.

I was sat next to a scout at the Youth Cup tie at Bolton last season (I think the scout was from Arsenal but he wasn't wearing any official club gear) and all he was doing was making notes on Shaw. Shaw himself cruised through the game like he was playing a computer game on easy level. He didn't particularly stand out but everything was easy for him. There was one moment when a winger shoved the ball past him and steal a few yards as well but Shaw still got back to the ball before him and with some time to spare too.

In the car park after the game there were a good two dozen Range Rovers, I'm assuming scouts and agents checking up on talent and many of them there for Shaw.

To be honest I think more than any affinity for the club or Manager, it's Cortese who has convinced him about where we're going and what part he can play in it.

He won't go this summer. I don't for one minute believe he'll spend his whole career with us, although I hope to the non-existent gods that he does.

Isn't Targett supposed to be almost as good and a similar age? If so, get him playing once we are safe (hopefully that will be with a few games left), and if he proves his potential, then sell Shaw for £20M and get a super quick goal scoring machine in :-)

..... oh and yes, slightly (but only slightly) tongue in cheek!

Next source the Brothers Grimm

He won't go this summer. I don't for one minute believe he'll spend his whole career with us, although I hope to the non-existent gods that he does.

I think having seen Bale, Walcott and AOC leave before their Saints careers barely began, fans just want to see 3 - 4 good years and then a proper fee reflecting the valie of the player.

With Cortese in charge we are more likely to get that.

An oral agreement to agree....hmmmmmm....Dan Gosling at Everton anyone? The danger for Shaw is that if he does go to a big club he could end up playing 10 games a season rather than 40 and his development will be stunted if he doesn't play. JWP sitting on the bench every week is not particularly helpful to him either and he should probably get out on loan.

He made the agreement with Adkins here no?

With Cortese in charge we are more likely to get that.

That said, Ox went from under Cortese after just a season with us... although I suppose we got a good price. I'd prefer to still have the player though... no money can replace raw talent and chemistry with the team.

when is his 18th birthday?

when is his 18th birthday?

12th July 2013.

I know. When we sell him, let's not put a sell-on clause in the deal, just like with Mr Bale. That would be good thinking.

I'm looking forward to the Guly and Fox threads.

lol like this !!!!

I think the only club that could turn his head are Chelsea. He is a big Chelsea fan and I believe he lives in London still (Kingston rings a bell?). They also have an ageing England LB to replace, the money to attract most players and the offer of top-flight English and European football.

I think the only club that could turn his head are Chelsea. He is a big Chelsea fan and I believe he lives in London still (Kingston rings a bell?). They also have an ageing England LB to replace, the money to attract most players and the offer of top-flight English and European football.

You forgot 'money' (actually you didn't)

He has Chelsea written all over him. 1 more season of Cole at least. The Bertrand can give it a crack for a season before they come in for Shaw. He'll happily wait for them and it suits him and us to do so.

When is he 18? Until he signs on the dotted line there is still a danger he could walk. I'm sure that Luke is a level headed lad it's the parents that worry me.

They were interested in Jan apparently

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2267313/Nottingham-Forest-chase-Southamptons-Danny-Fox.html

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42386-Danny-Fox-to-Nottingham-Forest/page2

Can she play left back as well?

I know. When we sell him, let's not put a sell-on clause in the deal, just like with Mr Bale. That would be good thinking.

??? we had a sell-on clause with Spurs for Bale, but agreed to take a few bob early in lieu when we were really skint.

Yes, true. But in retrospect this will lose us many, many millions (albeit while keeping us going as a club!)

He has Chelsea written all over him. 1 more season of Cole at least. The Bertrand can give it a crack for a season before they come in for Shaw. He'll happily wait for them and it suits him and us to do so.

Perhaps that's it... Shaw stays with us next season, Cole remains 1st choice for Chelsea, the following season if we have achieved our ambitions (pushing towards a top-10 club with signs that European football isn't just a dream) we might be able to keep hold of him, if not Chelsea will be ready and waiting. By this time he'll be early into a long-term deal that'll cost a small fortune to buy out.

That said, Ox went from under Cortese after just a season with us... although I suppose we got a good price. I'd prefer to still have the player though... no money can replace raw talent and chemistry with the team.

O-C made no secret of the fact that he wanted out as soon as he made the first team. He was never a Saint in heart or spirit just a money grubbing glory hunter.

Perhaps that's it... Shaw stays with us next season, Cole remains 1st choice for Chelsea, the following season if we have achieved our ambitions (pushing towards a top-10 club with signs that European football isn't just a dream) we might be able to keep hold of him, if not Chelsea will be ready and waiting. By this time he'll be early into a long-term deal that'll cost a small fortune to buy out.

Chelsea second team followed by a loan spell at Brighton... some prospect, no chance. Methinks Mr Shaw is a wee bit more canny than you seem able to give him credit for.

When Chelski got Bridger, we received a transfer fee + Le Saux. Le Saux's wages were pretty much paid by Chelski. (Maybe I remember incorrectly - can anybody confirm?) Perhaps we could see a similar deal - - - Shaw goes to Chelski and Cole comes here with part of his salary still paid by Chelski?