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    Default England Under 21's - Clyne and Shaw selected for UEFA U21 Euro 2013

    Well done Clyne and Shaw.

    The squad actually looks quite strong TBF

    http://www.thefa.com/england/mens-un...d-announcement

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    Default Clyne and Shaw selected for UEFA U21 Euro2013

    As the title says. Both make it for the final tournament in Israel.

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    http://www.thefa.com/england/mens-un...ouncement.aspx

    Huge congratulations to them both

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    Not quite sure where McEachran gets this massive reputation from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smirking_Saint View Post
    Well done Clyne and Shaw.

    The squad actually looks quite strong TBF

    http://www.thefa.com/england/mens-un...d-announcement
    It does apart from the Striking options with Sordell, Wickham and Zaha.

    Congrats to Shaw and Clyne though, Pearce seemed to get a bit iffy with Shaw about his withdrawals so glad he got over that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajjuk View Post
    It does apart from the Striking options with Sordell, Wickham and Zaha.

    Congrats to Shaw and Clyne though, Pearce seemed to get a bit iffy with Shaw about his withdrawals so glad he got over that.
    Pretty much what I was thinking but then we have Sturridge and Welbeck who are both young, J Rod if he keeps getting better maybe, Rooney if he ever decides to start playing properly again.

    But looking at the under 21's as a whole it looks good for the future

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    Good squad, awful manager. Will no doubt continue the England methodology and pick Rose and Wisdom over Clyne and Shaw.

    Personally I'd go:

    Steele
    Clyne Caulker Dawson Shaw
    McManaman Henderson Townsend
    Zaha Wickham Ince

    Just really lacking a proper striker. Not sure where the young striking talent is really. Plenty of pace and width though.

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    Well done to the pair. Some of the best full-back prospects in the country.

    If we do something about the CBs, we should look pretty solid next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Good squad, awful manager. Will no doubt continue the England methodology and pick Rose and Wisdom over Clyne and Shaw.

    Personally I'd go:

    Steele
    Clyne Caulker Dawson Shaw
    McManaman Henderson Townsend
    Zaha Wickham Ince

    Just really lacking a proper striker. Not sure where the young striking talent is really. Plenty of pace and width though.
    You know that the u21s under Pearce has easily been England's most successful period? - qualification after qualification including runners-up and losing a semi-final on pens. Results since the last tournament:

    25/03/2013 England 4 - 0 Austria Under-21s International Win
    21/03/2013 England 3 - 0 Romania Under-21s International Win
    05/02/2013 England 4 - 0 Sweden Under-21s International Win
    13/11/2012 England 2 - 0 Northern Ireland Under-21s International Win
    16/10/2012 Serbia 0 - 1 England European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    12/10/2012 England 1 - 0 Serbia European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    10/09/2012 England 1 - 0 Norway European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    06/09/2012 Azerbaijan 0 - 2 England European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    29/02/2012 England 4 - 0 Belgium European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    14/11/2011 Belgium 2 - 1 England European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Loss
    10/11/2011 England 5 - 0 Iceland European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    10/10/2011 Norway 1 - 2 England European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    06/10/2011 Iceland 0 - 3 England European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win
    05/09/2011 England 4 - 1 Israel Under-21s International Win
    01/09/2011 England 6 - 0 Azerbaijan European Championship, Israel 2013, Regional Stages Win

    So that's P15 W14 D0 L1 F43 A4 GD+39.

    Yep Pearce is doing an awful job.

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    odds on shaw getting injured before a game is played??

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    Hope so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_saint View Post
    Well done to the pair. Some of the best full-back prospects in the country.

    If we do something about the CBs, we should look pretty solid next season.
    Bloody hell, a positive post from alpine_saint!

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    Good for them, though it would have been an absolute travesty if they hadn't been selected.
    With perhaps the exception of Rose, Clyne has more premier league starts this season than anyone else in the squad.
    And Shaw has become a regular prem starter in a way that the majority of squad has not.

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    Clyne has33 PL starts; no doubt 34 on Sunday;Rose 25 and he's done for the season.

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    G'warn lads!

    Agree with Alpine above (twice in a day, blimey!) couple of decent quality CBs (potentially Forren - I'm reserving judgement until I see him) and defence should look pretty solid.

    Would love to really break the bank and go all out for a really top, top CB.

    Any way I digress, good on the boys, their performances this season fully warrant selection. Not long until they are in the full squad I would imagine, if they keep up their current form.

    Shaw looked immense from the bits I saw on sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adriansfc View Post
    Good squad, awful manager. Will no doubt continue the England methodology and pick Rose and Wisdom over Clyne and Shaw.

    Personally I'd go:

    Steele
    Clyne Caulker Dawson Shaw
    McManaman Henderson Townsend
    Zaha Wickham Ince

    Just really lacking a proper striker. Not sure where the young striking talent is really. Plenty of pace and width though.
    What would be wrong about picking Rose ahead of Shaw? I agree though, cr@p manager.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sour Mash View Post
    What would be wrong about picking Rose ahead of Shaw? I agree though, cr@p manager.
    Rose is banned for the first match due to incident in Serbia so barring injury Shaw will start the tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelvinsRightGlove View Post
    G'warn lads!

    Agree with Alpine above (twice in a day, blimey!) couple of decent quality CBs (potentially Forren - I'm reserving judgement until I see him) and defence should look pretty solid.

    Would love to really break the bank and go all out for a really top, top CB.

    Any way I digress, good on the boys, their performances this season fully warrant selection. Not long until they are in the full squad I would imagine, if they keep up their current form.

    Shaw looked immense from the bits I saw on sunday.
    I actually think if you put Yoshi next to someone dominant and not prone to mistakes then we would be pretty solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smirking_Saint View Post
    I actually think if you put Yoshi next to someone dominant and not prone to mistakes then we would be pretty solid.
    I don't disagree with that, but for me Fonte & Jos aren't good enough.

    I really like both of them, but if we are going to kick on as planned (Cortese staying granted) then these two aren't going to play a huge part in that.

    Leaves us pretty light at the back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelvinsRightGlove View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but for me Fonte & Jos aren't good enough.

    I really like both of them, but if we are going to kick on as planned (Cortese staying granted) then these two aren't going to play a huge part in that.

    Leaves us pretty light at the back!
    I think Fonte is adequate back up, especially considering he'll be on relatively low wages compared to other defenders, but i really hope hooiveld is moved on next season. Can see him going to one of the failed play off teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    I think Fonte is adequate back up, especially considering he'll be on relatively low wages compared to other defenders, but i really hope hooiveld is moved on next season. Can see him going to one of the failed play off teams.
    I basically agree, as I agree with Kev, Fonte will do as backup (though their is also Forren) but Jos has made far too many mistakes this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    I think Fonte is adequate back up, especially considering he'll be on relatively low wages compared to other defenders, but i really hope hooiveld is moved on next season. Can see him going to one of the failed play off teams.
    I think Pochettino doesn't rate Fonte as highly. Seems to prefer Jos who, much as I like the guy, really needs to move. Would like to see us add some real quality here.

    For me, ideal scenario would be a 'marquee'-type signing at CB ready to go, in addition to a very good young CB, who can do a job if required.

    But I doubt that will happen, so it's irrelevant, as all this is to the thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by iansums View Post
    Rose is banned for the first match due to incident in Serbia so barring injury Shaw will start the tournament.
    But that's not the point I was responding to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_clark View Post
    I think Fonte is adequate back up, especially considering he'll be on relatively low wages compared to other defenders, but i really hope hooiveld is moved on next season. Can see him going to one of the failed play off teams.
    low wages and yet he has the biggest flashiest motor yet to be seen in the SO postal district. You don't buy a Bentley like that on 5 bob a week.Reckon he cut himself a great deal when he signed; dropped a division on the understanding that he would be handsomely rewarded for each step on the upward path. I'd wager Fonte is on a packet.

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    Well done lads, fully deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Appy View Post
    Not quite sure where McEachran gets this massive reputation from.
    Or Connor Wickham. Utter doggy doo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crab Lungs View Post
    Or Connor Wickham. Utter doggy doo.
    one plays for Chelsea (in theory) the other cost 10 million quid (arf arf) Pearce is as clueless as the rest of them; big club or big money =good player.

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    Anyone know if this whole tournament is going to be shown on tv over here? On Sky I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sour Mash View Post
    Anyone know if this whole tournament is going to be shown on tv over here? On Sky I guess?
    Yep, On Sky Sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Window Cleaner View Post
    one plays for Chelsea (in theory) the other cost 10 million quid (arf arf) Pearce is as clueless as the rest of them; big club or big money =good player.
    Meh, striking options at under 21 level is a bit short, I imagine he wants to use Wickham for his height with wide pace players.

    McEchran, had a v big name for himself in youth football but has done naff all since, other than those picked, what are the options here ?

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    Nat Chalobah looks a good prospect to me. Chelsea won't let him go, but Callum McMannaman and Tom Lees are certainly worth looking at.

    Anyone seen much of Jason Lowe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smirking_Saint View Post
    Meh, striking options at under 21 level is a bit short, I imagine he wants to use Wickham for his height with wide pace players.

    McEchran, had a v big name for himself in youth football but has done naff all since, other than those picked, what are the options here ?
    In fairness he was voted Boros young player of the season for 12-13 whilst there on loan. He's obviously done something right.
    And even if he does leave Chelsea, it doesn't mean he's not good enough. Jack Cork is proof of that.

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    ----------------BUTLAND----------------
    CLYNE----CAULKER----DAWSON----SHAW
    --------CHALOBAH----HENDERSON-------
    INCE-------------ZAHA-------TOWNSEND
    ---------------WICKHAM----------------

    Not a bad side really. Great to see two Saints players in there as well - any chance of more Saints players being called up for U19, U17 level this summer?

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    Wonderful news and what a coup if both play together in the later stages of the tournament. Well done lads and well deserved.

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