Saints reject bid from Cardiff for José Fonte

Just sort his new deal out already and hand him the armband.

Don't believe you.

Keep Fonte but don't make him captain FFS.

Why on earth would you anyone want Fonte as captain .

I wonder if Jose will go on strike to engineer his dream move to Wales......

FFS just get his contract sorted out. The most baffling think of the whole summer.

FFS will we have ANY players left come August?????

Fed up with these Championship clubs keep trying to bully us out of our best players. Hope the board stand firm this time!

Go home, Cardiff, you're drunk

Cardiff were so bored watching the Germany vs France game they just decided to have a bit of a laugh to liven the afternoon up.

Swap deal for Caulker?

Man, this board are so incompetent, they can't even manage to carry out a fire sale effectively!

If fonte wants to go, he will be gone

If fonte wants to go, he will be gone

If he sees Cardiff as a better prospect than saints I really will start to worry..........

FFS just get his contract sorted out. The most baffling think of the whole summer.

Fonte is 31 this year perhaps there are concerns about his age in giving him a new contract

Fonte is 31 this year perhaps there are concerns about his age in giving him a new contract

if we lose lovren and surely have to keep fonte. he is at the peak of his powers

Swap deal for Caulker?

You said, I thought it, we are probably all thinking it. We may have missed a trick. If we could use it as leverage to get Caulker to SMS, we should do it. Don't want Fonte to leave, but if we can get Caulker somehow, I'm in.

It will all boil down to the length of contract. He'll want three years or more, and we won't want to go beyond two. imo.

You've got to feel a little bit sorry for Jose.

Lambert, AL, Luke, Lovren, Morgan, Clyne, Osvaldo, Gaston and even Chambers have all been linked with Champs League teams both home and abroad ...... but Jose has been linked with Hull City and now relegated Cardiff!! Come on Scouserpool make an offer for him even if you don't mean it just for the sake of his morale

But having said that, at least Hull City are playing in Europe this season which is more than can be said about Luke Shaw at Man U

The fact they even made a bid suggests the contract is far from agreed.

Fonte is 31 this year perhaps there are concerns about his age in giving him a new contract

Yet we are chasing a 29 year old striker in a 8M deal.

The fact they even made a bid suggests the contract is far from agreed.

Yes, because I am sure everyone at Cardiff knows how all our contract negotiations are going........

Yes, because I am sure everyone at Cardiff knows how all our contract negotiations are going........

 

Well I'm quite sure Fonte's agent knows how the talks are going (if they are at all) when he encouraged Cardiff to make an offer....

We can't surely contemplate selling any more regular starting IX players before we have brought in replacements (which improve us in those positions), can we?

He might go if he believed Cortese when he sold him the dream of Championship football.

Now even Cardiff see as a soft touch.

Yet we are chasing a 29 year old striker in a 8M deal.

I thought he was only 28.

Well I'm quite sure Fonte's agent knows how the talks are going (if they are at all) when he encouraged Cardiff to make an offer....

Where is you evidence he did this?

Why would he pick Cardiff?

Why do you pessimistic posters always have to make things up?

Why do you pessimistic posters always have to make things up?

Easier than looking things up or having to actually know anything

You have to admire their brass neck.

When clubs make official bids for players it is usually after having received encouragement from the agent that its worthwhile pursuing.

Not saying Fonte's camp would be keen for him to go to Cardiff, but if we are getting bids for him then it would suggest to me that he hasnt signed a new contract yet.

The bids then act as a hurry up to Saints to get it sorted.

Hardly rocket science and nothing to do with being optimistic or pessimistic.

Fonte hasnt yet signed a new deal so his agent will use interest of other clubs to get him a better deal or impress upon Saints the urgency to get something agreed.

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Only offering £3m apparently. Cheeky sods.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2681214/Cardiff-3m-bid-Southampton-defender-Jose-Fonte-rejected.html

I thought he was only 28.

hes 29 in ten dayss..

Why do you pessimistic posters always have to make things up?

To try to make themselves seem knowledgeable and important when in fact they are anything but.

If we really are wishing to return to our roots Ralph and become a touchy feely family club again, then the last thing you should do is to clear out our older stalwarts like Jose and Kelvin who have contributed far more than most to our present success or even dear old Jos for that matter. These are the guys who live and breathe Southampton in the dressing room and are worth their weight in golden footballs with all the raw ambitious kids in our ranks to help them learn the trade and also to help build vital team loyalty, which is essential if we are ever to be more than a struggling lower level Pl side.

I doubt the rumour has any substance and the idea that we could afford to let him go right now with the likely loss of Lovren, borders on the naively absurd.

Well done Les, showing some spheres at last. Our Hero

Rejecting a Bid from a CCC Club for a player not in the World Cup

It can be done then

If we really are wishing to return to our roots Ralph and become a touchy feely family club again, then the last thing you should do is to clear out our older stalwarts like Jose and Kelvin who have contributed far more than most to our present success or even dear old Jos for that matter. These are the guys who live and breathe Southampton in the dressing room and are worth their weight in golden footballs with all the raw ambitious kids in our ranks to help them learn the trade and also to help build vital team loyalty, which is essential if we are ever to be more than a struggling lower level Pl side.

 

I doubt the rumour has any substance and the idea that we could afford to let him go right now with the likely loss of Lovren, borders on the naively absurd.

Just as well we've rejected the bid, then.

I do like Fonte but I wouldn't be all that disappointed if he saw out the last year of his contract and left a free agent next summer. He has been good but he isn't that good. Lovren has made him look better this season in much the same way Killer made Claus look good. Fonte always has a mistake or two in him and I think we can find a better first choice CB. I personally think Yoshida is marginally the better defender and he is 5 years younger.

Having said all of that, I do believe the OP to be complete horse sh*t.

Yet we are chasing a 29 year old striker in a 8M deal.

yeah sounds stupid.....doesn't it ?.

Mind you Cortese said that about the prospect of signing 27 y.o. Rickie Lambert for £1 million ....back in 2009..

I do like Fonte but I wouldn't be all that disappointed if he saw out the last year of his contract and left a free agent next summer. He has been good but he isn't that good. Lovren has made him look better this season in much the same way Killer made Claus look good. Fonte always has a mistake or two in him and I think we can find a better first choice CB. I personally think Yoshida is marginally the better defender and he is 5 years younger.

 

Having said all of that, I do believe the OP to be complete horse sh*t.

To be honest, based on the total squad annihilation we're seeing this summer, players like Fonte and Cork are in short supply - and we need to keep them longer-term. We just need to replace Lovren, and that will be that.

yeah sounds stupid.....doesn't it ?.

 

Mind you Cortese said that about the prospect of signing 27 y.o. Rickie Lambert for £1 million ....back in 2009..

The difference in possible sell-on value between signing a 27 year old on a three year deal and a 29 year old on a three year deal is massive. Obviously if the contract goes full term you get nothing for them anyway, but the difference in selling a year before the end of the contract is huge at those ages.

With the 27 year old you're practically guaranteed there will be takers for them at 29 and the buying club will have the option of shifting them on at 30 if they become much better OR shipping them out to someone for a fee if they fail. With the 29 year old they're 32 when the contract is up and every buying club knows you're almost certainly getting no resale value for a 31 year old.

The fact we managed to shift Lambert on for a profit at his age was both an anomaly and an excellent piece of business in isolation.

The difference in possible sell-on value between signing a 27 year old on a three year deal and a 29 year old on a three year deal is massive. Obviously if the contract goes full term you get nothing for them anyway, but the difference in selling a year before the end of the contract is huge at those ages.

 

With the 27 year old you're practically guaranteed there will be takers for them at 29 and the buying club will have the option of shifting them on at 30 if they become much better OR shipping them out to someone for a fee if they fail. With the 29 year old they're 32 when the contract is up and every buying club knows you're almost certainly getting no resale value for a 31 year old.

 

The fact we managed to shift Lambert on for a profit at his age was both an anomaly and an excellent piece of business in isolation.

Although your comments may ring true, we should remember that a large amount of Rickie Lambert's goal tally wasn't accrued in this League, or the one below that, for that matter.

The fact that his career seems to be near peaking at 32...in this League....is indeed the real anomaly.

His (potential) replacement seems to have " a better pedigree " to start with, and perahps that's what we are banking on in seeking to sign him.

The difference in possible sell-on value between signing a 27 year old on a three year deal and a 29 year old on a three year deal is massive. Obviously if the contract goes full term you get nothing for them anyway, but the difference in selling a year before the end of the contract is huge at those ages.

 

With the 27 year old you're practically guaranteed there will be takers for them at 29 and the buying club will have the option of shifting them on at 30 if they become much better OR shipping them out to someone for a fee if they fail. With the 29 year old they're 32 when the contract is up and every buying club knows you're almost certainly getting no resale value for a 31 year old.

 

The fact we managed to shift Lambert on for a profit at his age was both an anomaly and an excellent piece of business in isolation.

Its true, but we're in a hole without any fit recognised goalscorers. Signing young players like Ings or the Barcelona loan might work out well but Pelle is the insurance, a reasonably certain 'sure thing'. The fee doesn't seem excessive given that every Saints goal roughly equated to a point last season (54 goals, 56 points) and every extra PL place is worth at least £1.2m.

To be honest, based on the total squad annihilation we're seeing this summer, players like Fonte and Cork are in short supply - and we need to keep them longer-term. We just need to replace Lovren, and that will be that.

Agree with you S Clarke about new deals for Fonte and Cork but don't agree that just replacing Lovren is enough. I'd be terrified to see Jos lumbering out against Aguero or Adebayor again next season. Jos seems like a great bloke and was excellent in our NPC promotion at both ends of the pitch but like Gazza, worth a two goal start to the opposition, especially this division's leading lights.

If we can squeeze the pips out of Liverpool, that's Caulker and Manga paid for which means Fonte has some competition at last and that's how he'd want it because the club progresses. The only other option is if the club are considering Chambers at CB? Haven't heard anything about that but you seem to be reasonably ITK so may have a view on that.

The only other option is if the club are considering Chambers at CB?

Agree with you S Clarke about new deals for Fonte and Cork but don't agree that just replacing Lovren is enough. I'd be terrified to see Jos lumbering out against Aguero or Adebayor again next season. Jos seems like a great bloke and was excellent in our NPC promotion at both ends of the pitch but like Gazza, worth a two goal start to the opposition, especially this division's leading lights.

 

If we can squeeze the pips out of Liverpool, that's Caulker and Manga paid for which means Fonte has some competition at last and that's how he'd want it because the club progresses. The only other option is if the club are considering Chambers at CB? Haven't heard anything about that but you seem to be reasonably ITK so may have a view on that.

I trust the management, Jos has his faults but he wouldn't be the first (or last) player to come good due to clever coaching after a dismal start to the pl. If they want to hold onto him/ feel he could do a job I trust their judgement. He showed glimpses in some of his games in between the glaring shortcomings.