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    Default 1 week to go, will Kruger, Koeman n Ko stick to their word?

    Spurs likely to step up interest in Jay and Morgan. Clubs surely interested in Cork.

    Will they build up some trust from us after the window shuts or will they break their promises (again) and have even more people question if they are competent enough to run the club?

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    Do we need yet another thread on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Do we need yet another thread on this?
    No, but I tell you what - with Spurs being the masters of late deadline day deals, deadline day could be a bit worrying this year.

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    None of this would ever have happened if Cortese was still here. We'd probably be six points clear at the top of the league too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    No, but I tell you what - with Spurs being the masters of late deadline day deals, deadline day could be a bit worrying this year.
    Are they?

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    People demanding that the club rebuild trust all because they wouldn't spend 50m of someone else's money is laughable.

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    Meh, who gives a ****. If they go, they go. Saints have never been in a position to hold on to players that outgrow us (Le Tiss aside). We'll still be Saints, have new heroes and villains, ups and downs, joy and sadness. Then the cycle repeats, no use worrying about it, in fact I have a yoghurt that's about to pass it's sell by date...

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    I'm not against the board, but Kruger categorically said Morgan and Jay will be at southampton after the window closes. If they aren't then I'll be very annoyed. If they are he kept his promise and can't be branded a liar.

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    If we really want to sign Townsend, then we have to be prepared to give Totters what they need - Morgan and/or Jay. Such is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    None of this would ever have happened if Cortese was still here. We'd probably be six points clear at the top of the league too.
    What is your obsession with Cortese?

    Do you think you will need to talk to someone about it?

    Feckin drop it you repetitive boring fecktard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenue Saint View Post
    What is your obsession with Cortese?

    Do you think you will need to talk to someone about it?

    Feckin drop it you repetitive boring fecktard!
    I'm glad NC has gone. I can't imagine the state of CB's mental health if he was still here. Worrying times.

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    I apologise for being the only forum contributor who ever mentions our ex chairman.

    So if I stop, no one will ever talk about him on here again, right?

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    I will wait to see if MS or whoever goes or stays (prefer the latter of course) - but whatever we look like on 02.09 so be it, this will be our reality and we'll just have to accept it and get on with it and leave the past behind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint IQ View Post
    .......and can't be branded a liar.
    But this really does come across as being very pompous, I'm sure it wasn't intended as such but life can, at times, deal a btch of a hand and promises made can easily become promises broken - telling untruths doesn't come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint IQ View Post
    Spurs likely to step up interest in Jay and Morgan. Clubs surely interested in Cork.

    Will they build up some trust from us after the window shuts or will they break their promises (again) and have even more people question if they are competent enough to run the club?
    I don't think they will go this window, as it will go against the clubs official stance, they will both be out the door in January though as the club have then stuck to their word. Look people need to realise these players don't want to be at saints, you can argue about why that is, but it doesn't change the fact the want to move to a bigger club. I'd rather have players at the club that want to give everything this season than good players who couldn't care less....other peoples mileage will vary

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    I don't think they will go this window, as it will go against the clubs official stance, they will both be out the door in January though as the club have then stuck to their word. Look people need to realise these players don't want to be at saints, you can argue about why that is, but it doesn't change the fact the want to move to a bigger club. I'd rather have players at the club that want to give everything this season than good players who couldn't care less....other peoples mileage will vary

    Morgan couldn't care less, but he forced a wondersave from mignolet against the dippers, and almost equalised in injury time. Two fantastic efforts that could have sent us home with three points on another day.

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    They'll stick to their word UNLESS they decide that any deal that sees him moving is for the overall betterment of the club. ie signing Clasie and strengthening the weaker positions on the team/squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the saint in winchester View Post
    If we really want to sign Townsend, then we have to be prepared to give Totters what they need - Morgan and/or Jay. Such is life.
    Absolute garbage. We are onto other targets. We won't sell then but please stop talking complete garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint IQ View Post
    I'm not against the board, but Kruger categorically said Morgan and Jay will be at southampton after the window closes. If they aren't then I'll be very annoyed. If they are he kept his promise and can't be branded a liar.
    Well, lets just say, that they are prepared to sell one of both of them. Obviously, once that decision has been made, the priority is to optimise the price. The best way to do that is not to announce to the world that you might sell them, just to appease some fans on a forum. Not every business dealing can be transparent.

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    No way will manager and chairman renege on their word and we don't want Townsend that much anyway, another winger is lined up so expect good news soon..all imho of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    They'll stick to their word UNLESS they decide that any deal that sees him moving is for the overall betterment of the club. ie signing Clasie and strengthening the weaker positions on the team/squad.
    I have no problem with that provided the fee is close to 30m. I'm not convinced we are going to get full value from him this season. I know the principle argument but I'm more drawn to the 'if it isn't working, move on' argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Do we need yet another thread on this?
    No we dont.

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    Has Guan said anything in the past few weeks?

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    Sorry if there has been loads of threads on this, I haven't seen them or been on them. I just thought with one week to go it was the right time to put this thread up

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    Why dont we just wait and see rather than waste time trying to double guess what is going to happen?

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    I don't know and to be honest I don't care. At the end of the window I shall support the team that is here no matter what their names.

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    Indeed Whitey. But Koeman has said that he is keeping MS, JR and JC so I dont know what the problem is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-Clarke View Post
    Do we need yet another thread on this?
    But you and SOG still felt the need to reply to a thread that you don't think is needed. Why not just ignore it if you don't like it? It was a reasonable subject, a bit of idle speculation about what may happen over the next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Indeed Whitey. But Koeman has said that he is keeping MS, JR and JC so I dont know what the problem is?
    Problem is a pointless thread where we can speculate endlessly but will not know until 2 sept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    I apologise for being the only forum contributor who ever mentions our ex chairman.

    So if I stop, no one will ever talk about him on here again, right?
    What, that guy who signed up our manager with a 2M resignation clause and, according to media reports, had a verbal agreement that Morgan could leave this summer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Indeed Whitey. But Koeman has said that he is keeping MS, JR and JC so I dont know what the problem is?
    Let's hope we keep Victor as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Why dont we just wait and see rather than waste time trying to double guess what is going to happen?
    It is still a discussion board after all, so why not discuss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SW5 SAINT View Post
    It is still a discussion board after all, so why not discuss!
    Fair point but hasn't this been discussed to death before.....hence the absence here of any new views or opinions. Those who think the earth is flat still think that way as do those who think it's round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puddings and Monkeys View Post
    Fair point but hasn't this been discussed to death before.....hence the absence here of any new views or opinions. Those who think the earth is flat still think that way as do those who think it's round.
    What shape it will be on September One is the important factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucks Saint View Post
    Problem is a pointless thread where we can speculate endlessly but will not know until 2 sept.
    This whole forum is a pointless waste of time but it keeps us bellends out of mischief and makes us feel important. For some of us these are the only friends we have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    This whole forum is a pointless waste of time but it keeps us bellends out of misf and makes us feel important. For some of us these are the only friends we have
    Jeez, that is one fooked up and sad post right there! If you consider some of the muppets on here friends, you don't need enemies! (-;

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    1st of September is judgement day, by request of Mr Krueger.

    Still not got a complete team and we are unlikely to keep two more of our best players in my opinion. But hey, I will give the Boardroom until 1 Sep as requested.

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    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadoldgit View Post
    Indeed Whitey. But Koeman has said that he is keeping MS, JR and JC so I dont know what the problem is?
    This....and it really is this simple....despite what has happened, the club still retain the final word on whether players get sold or not....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRobbie View Post
    1st of September is judgement day, by request of Mr Krueger.

    Still not got a complete team and we are unlikely to keep two more of our best players in my opinion. But hey, I will give the Boardroom until 1 Sep as requested.
    My feeling too.

    Time will reveal the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSaint View Post
    Meh, who gives a ****. If they go, they go. Saints have never been in a position to hold on to players that outgrow us (Le Tiss aside). We'll still be Saints, have new heroes and villains, ups and downs, joy and sadness. Then the cycle repeats, no use worrying about it, in fact I have a yoghurt that's about to pass it's sell by date...
    This.

    Why worry, it's out of our hands. All we can do is moan,groan and support the team we DO have.

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    I think it's a difficult one actually. The thought was to keep them and they'll play at a decent level for us and then probably leave in January or next Summer. However, with the way Schneiderlin looks disinterested I guess what will happen is he won't put in the shift, Spurs will bid for him Jan for far less than now due to his form and we'll end up losing out.

    For me what needs to happen is that we get a deal tied up for Schneiderlin now, Krueger takes the fall and we bring in Clasie. J Rod will stay until at least January I think (I also think it will take him a while to be the same player again but that's a different discussion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRobbie View Post
    1st of September is judgement day, by request of Mr Krueger.

    Still not got a complete team and we are unlikely to keep two more of our best players in my opinion. But hey, I will give the Boardroom until 1 Sep as requested.
    so we are on countdown to the biggest toy throwing event his board has seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    None of this would ever have happened if Cortese was still here. We'd probably be six points clear at the top of the league too.
    Ugh ???..... six points clear ......after 2 games? Where's my calculator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint IQ View Post
    Spurs likely to step up interest in Jay and Morgan. Clubs surely interested in Cork.

    Will they build up some trust from us after the window shuts or will they break their promises (again) and have even more people question if they are competent enough to run the club?
    Thread title....1 week to go, will Kruger, Koeman n Ko stick to their word?

    .....I hope that you'll give them more than a week to prove it .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRobbie View Post
    1st of September is judgement day, by request of Mr Krueger.

    Still not got a complete team and we are unlikely to keep two more of our best players in my opinion. But hey, I will give the Boardroom until 1 Sep as requested.
    The continued, self-engrandising arrogance of some posters on here never ceases to amaze - be it deliberate or not! Fortunately their opinion is worth precisely what others have paid for it.

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    [QUOTE=Viking Saint;2036865]This....and it really is this simple....despite what has happened, the club still retain the final word on whether players get sold or not....[/QUOTE]

    How very true

    So, as they "had the final word" in getting rid of Shaw, Lallana, and Lovren, it means they were NOT interested in keeping them

    If they had been, as they "had the final word", those players would still be here

    As Schneiderlin is (ATM), which is strange, because he has the same Player Contract as the others had

    Ralph The Ruthless spotted that, and held him to it (Til Sept 1 minimum )

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    Things change. Holding onto Schniederlin may have become almost impossible. Basically player power rules, chasing more lucre. I suggest we waste less time castigating the board and ill advised 'promises' and more on envisaging/supporting a new team and formation. And just hoping that Koeman has the draw to get the best possible squad together by Sept 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT View Post
    Things change. Holding onto Schniederlin may have become almost impossible. Basically player power rules, chasing more lucre. I suggest we waste less time castigating the board and ill advised 'promises' and more on envisaging/supporting a new team and formation. And just hoping that Koeman has the draw to get the best possible squad together by Sept 1.
    Why may it have become almost impossible, can't see anything has changed in the last 7 days or so. If we're desperate for Townsend (why that would be I couldn't say) then we may have to let MS go, he certainly still wants to of course. There are other wingers, probably better or at least as good as Townsend so you'd have to think that if we do eventually engage in a MS/AT+Cash deal then it's because we wanted it that way.

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    apparently Krueger said we will be stronger at the end of the window as we were when it opened. So its 7th or better this season then. Who's going to put money on that?

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    Can we have a vote to elect a poster to start a new thread on this subject for tomorrow?

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