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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    I have trouble believing these numbers.
    Marcus Rashford on 35k and a Gallagher, a academy player with no big transfer record, who has never been 1st team regular, on 40k?
    Wonder what the source is. A video game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by once_bitterne View Post
    Those figures are wrong, i know for a fact that Shane Long is one of the highest earners and on the same wage as Fraser Forster

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    Those figures are wrong, i know for a fact that Shane Long is one of the highest earners and on the same wage as Fraser Forster
    That in itself is criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    That in itself is criminal.
    On both counts. A goalkeeper who doesn't keep them out of the net and a striker who doesn't put them in the net. The Southampton Way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Rewarded for basically some loan spells at Swindon & not playing at Boro.
    I imagine they were a little blindsided by Stephens breaking into the first team (due to a raft of injuries) and - initially at least - not being too terrible, having not been particularly rated by the club previously.

    So they had a young English defender on a lowish wage with not much time left on his contract (18 months?), doing okay in the Premier League, and felt they needed to lock him down to a long deal so they could maximise his sale value a season or two down the line.

    I'm sure it made some kind of business sense - after all, we got £16m for Callum Chambers after half a season of mostly un-noteworthy outings, such is the bonkers premium on young English players.

    It's not exactly worked out, though. Can't believe we'd get more than £5m for Stephens, if that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    That in itself is criminal.
    Why his goals at end of season kept us up how many million did that add to our coffers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Why his goals at end of season kept us up how many million did that add to our coffers?


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    So he is worth 80k a week because he scored a handful of goals at the end of a season? Despite being dross for the 18months prior.

    Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericb View Post
    Those figures are wrong, i know for a fact that Shane Long is one of the highest earners and on the same wage as Fraser Forster
    The Les Reed way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Give it to Ron View Post
    Why his goals at end of season kept us up how many million did that add to our coffers
    If he hadn’t been awful for several years before hand, we wouldn’t need ‘keeping up’.

    He’s a 3 goal a season striker, who got a couple extra from lucky deflections against Leicester and Bournemouth. That’s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    That in itself is criminal.
    Compared to Alexis Sanchez at Man U think we're getting cracking value out of Longy

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    Nottingham Forest explore alternative options to Jack Colback with Southampton man on their radar:
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    To everyone who watched today’s game - how did he get on?

    Think he’s got a chance of making it with us this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    To everyone who watched today’s game - how did he get on?

    Think he’s got a chance of making it with us this season?
    No, will do a job lower down but if we have ambitions of mid table or higher then we need better.

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    Right, but are we bringing in a replacement for Reed? I think Reed is our cover this season.

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    He could be an option at right wing back if Cedric leaves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by northam soul View Post
    No, will do a job lower down but if we have ambitions of mid table or higher then we need better.
    Did you watch the game? Because supersaint specifically asked about his performance today. All comments about him in the PreSeason thread are positive, yet yours would probably best be described as a general assessment of him. Hence why I ask.

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    I didn't see todays game, but everything I have seen of Reed points to a player who could be excellent cover this season. If we don't reinforce the defensive midfield then he slots in well as a tenacious more mobile version of Romeu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austsaint View Post
    I didn't see todays game, but everything I have seen of Reed points to a player who could be excellent cover this season. If we don't reinforce the defensive midfield then he slots in well as a tenacious more mobile version of Romeu.
    This. Will miss Romeu's aerial part of the game though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfahaji View Post
    Did you watch the game? Because supersaint specifically asked about his performance today. All comments about him in the PreSeason thread are positive, yet yours would probably best be described as a general assessment of him. Hence why I ask.
    Yes I watched the game and my point was based on what I witnessed from that game as well as the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northam soul View Post
    Yes I watched the game and my point was based on what I witnessed from that game as well as the past.
    What part of his performance in this game do you feel was lacking? Because it seems your opinion is somewhat at odds with most other people who watched the game and thought he played well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    What part of his performance in this game do you feel was lacking? Because it seems your opinion is somewhat at odds with most other people who watched the game and thought he played well.
    Positional sense.

    There was often a gaping hole in front of the CB's in the 2nd half, where Feyonord's forced 2 good saves out of McCarthy. Romeu/Scheiderlin/Wanyama wpold have occupied that space, but Reed did not.

    He could do a job alongside Romeu, but if not we would be wide open .

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    Quote Originally Posted by redkeith View Post
    Positional sense.

    There was often a gaping hole in front of the CB's in the 2nd half, where Feyonord's forced 2 good saves out of McCarthy. Romeu/Scheiderlin/Wanyama wpold have occupied that space, but Reed did not.

    He could do a job alongside Romeu, but if not we would be wide open .
    Thanks.

    My question to northam soul might have sounded a bit curt, but the forum can be decent if you can cut separate the informed posts from the swathes of cr@p!

    While I'd be nervous of having Reed as our first CM option in the event of injuries or suspensions, I wouldn't mind having him as occasional cover. He's impressed more than disappointed me when he's played, and most of that was before his series of successful loans in the Championship.

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    He had a pretty decent game, covered a lot of ground and for me it has to be noted he was playing alongside a team of back up players as opposed fitting into the first eleven. IMHO he would probably be a decent cover.

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    Would he be happy to be cover, though? It's time to get his career fully up and running, and he'd be a regular starter at most Championship clubs.

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    Fulham deal still rumoured...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Fulham deal still rumoured...
    It’s done I believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by saint77 View Post
    It’s done I believe
    I said this earlier, but what an opportunity this could be for Slattery/Smallbone.

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    Didn't think my mate had it wrong RE Reed and Sims.


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    Monitoring his progress?? He's 24 now, surely we should've worked out now that he's not top flight level??

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    Yeh surely its time to either give him a proper go in the squad or sell him on permanently as its looking increasingly likely that he is a good championship player not a PL one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Monitoring his progress?? He's 24 now, surely we should've worked out now that he's not top flight level??
    Yep. Decent player but not quite premier league level. Hopefully he'll have a good season there and get himself a permanent move to a good championship club.

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    At a guess he’s on decent wages. As he is under contract until 2021 he may not wish to move, loan the obvious mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache View Post
    Monitoring his progress?? He's 24 now, surely we should've worked out now that he's not top flight level??
    Maybe he's the new Chris Marsden (probably not)

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    Does this mean lemina is now to be rehabilitated or slattery pushed further up pecking order.
    Shame we weren’t able to sell for a fee if we didn’t want to keep him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Does this mean lemina is now to be rehabilitated or slattery pushed further up pecking order.
    Shame we weren’t able to sell for a fee if we didn’t want to keep him.
    It means lemina will be sold or loaned abroad shortly.

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    You can't help but feel sorry for the lad, plenty of clubs want him on loan but none it seems prepared to do the decent thing and offer him a decent contract to secure his future. It is also obvious that he has no future here despite the fact that he fits in well with the first team squad.

    Surely his transfer fee and wage demands cannot be so great as to make him unaffordable by the clubs who want him especially for clubs like Fulham flush with parachute money?

    Saints owe it to Harrison Reed to get his future sorted out once and for all. He gives his all to the clubs he represents and always plays with a smile. In short he's a decent lad and a model professional. Eternal loan deals are unfair to him, he deserves more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    You can't help but feel sorry for the lad, plenty of clubs want him on loan but none it seems prepared to do the decent thing and offer him a decent contract to secure his future. It is also obvious that he has no future here despite the fact that he fits in well with the first team squad.

    Surely his transfer fee and wage demands cannot be so great as to make him unaffordable by the clubs who want him especially for clubs like Fulham flush with parachute money?

    Saints owe it to Harrison Reed to get his future sorted out once and for all. He gives his all to the clubs he represents and always plays with a smile. In short he's a decent lad and a model professional. Eternal loan deals are unfair to him, he deserves more.
    This in spades

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post
    You can't help but feel sorry for the lad, plenty of clubs want him on loan but none it seems prepared to do the decent thing and offer him a decent contract to secure his future. It is also obvious that he has no future here despite the fact that he fits in well with the first team squad.

    Surely his transfer fee and wage demands cannot be so great as to make him unaffordable by the clubs who want him especially for clubs like Fulham flush with parachute money?

    Saints owe it to Harrison Reed to get his future sorted out once and for all. He gives his all to the clubs he represents and always plays with a smile. In short he's a decent lad and a model professional. Eternal loan deals are unfair to him, he deserves more.
    Really good post. With Lemina's situation I had hoped Reed would get his chance in DM this season - I still think he is good enough at Prem level. A pity Norwich didn't sign him up. Hope he has a good season at the Cottage.

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    I get your angle Charlie but don’t you think the reason he still has a current contract with us (at 24/25?) is that we keep offering him a better one than he can get elsewhere - if he ran it down and left on a free for a new permanent contract somewhere then would it be bigger? It’s not a case of us blocking or stopping him. Clubs don’t want to buy him without a look first and then don’t sufficiently like what they see to commit.

    I think saints have done right by the lad.

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    Tony Mowbray revealed Rovers were unable to compete with the ‘financial power’ of Fulham after missing out on Harrison Reed: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...target-fulham/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Tony Mowbray revealed Rovers were unable to compete with the ‘financial power’ of Fulham after missing out on Harrison Reed: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...target-fulham/
    The Rovers fans gave him a big welcome at Craven Cottage on Saturday. They obviously liked him. He came on for the last 12 minutes and was tidily efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzhugh Fella View Post
    The Rovers fans gave him a big welcome at Craven Cottage on Saturday. They obviously liked him. He came on for the last 12 minutes and was tidily efficient.
    He's become quite a battle-hardened championship player now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSAINT View Post
    Tony Mowbray revealed Rovers were unable to compete with the ‘financial power’ of Fulham after missing out on Harrison Reed: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.u...target-fulham/
    Great article, thanks. Really good insight into the workings of the loan system.

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    I really don't understand why he isn't with our squad. Assuming Lemina won't play again, we are painfully weak in midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    I really don't understand why he isn't with our squad. Assuming Lemina won't play again, we are painfully weak in midfield.
    He's not good enough and it's not helping the lad to keep him around just in case he gets a few minutes here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    He's not good enough and it's not helping the lad to keep him around just in case he gets a few minutes here and there.
    He’s had two very good stints with Championship clubs and was one of two recognisable defensive midfielders we had in the squad. He absolutely would have got game time with us this season as we’re light in midfield as it is. If we hadn’t signed Danso, who can also operate as a defensive midfielder, I’d have been questioning this more than I have. I guess this is make or break season with a Fulham side I think will win the League.

    I bet we lose Cedric before September, and this loan would look even more puzzling as Reed played RWB for Norwich. On the plus side it must mean Ralph has faith in Slattery, who has become 3rd choice central midfielder. (If you consider JWP and Armstrong more as attacking midfielders.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    He’s had two very good stints with Championship clubs and was one of two recognisable defensive midfielders we had in the squad. He absolutely would have got game time with us this season as we’re light in midfield as it is. If we hadn’t signed Danso, who can also operate as a defensive midfielder, I’d have been questioning this more than I have. I guess this is make or break season with a Fulham side I think will win the League.

    I bet we lose Cedric before September, and this loan would look even more puzzling as Reed played RWB for Norwich. On the plus side it must mean Ralph has faith in Slattery, who has become 3rd choice central midfielder. (If you consider JWP and Armstrong more as attacking midfielders.)
    Exactly.

    It's going to be round pegs in square holes if Romeu or Valery gets injured.

    Is a 20 yr old centre back really going to be good enough on the ball to play CM in the PL? Slattery has always been more of a "10" or "8" than a deep midfielder.

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    You question whether Slattery is good enough but advocate playing a 24 year old who, if good enough, would have made it by now. Having Slattery as our main back up doesn’t suddenly make Reed a PL player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SNSUN View Post
    He’s had two very good stints with Championship clubs and was one of two recognisable defensive midfielders we had in the squad. He absolutely would have got game time with us this season as we’re light in midfield as it is. If we hadn’t signed Danso, who can also operate as a defensive midfielder, I’d have been questioning this more than I have. I guess this is make or break season with a Fulham side I think will win the League.

    I bet we lose Cedric before September, and this loan would look even more puzzling as Reed played RWB for Norwich. On the plus side it must mean Ralph has faith in Slattery, who has become 3rd choice central midfielder. (If you consider JWP and Armstrong more as attacking midfielders.)
    I don’t believe he played as a defensive midfielder for Blackburn either.

    I like his spirit, but he doesn’t have the reading of the game to play DM in the Championship, and definitely won’t have in the PL.

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