igsey Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Just announced, Clyney and Forster are in. No space for Bertrand - apparently there are 3 other LBs that get in ahead of him. Clyne should get used to bench-warming with Walker back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Keiran Gibbs says it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Don't get why there are 3 left backs in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Absolute load of tosh. Typical Hodgeson senseless choice. What the hell will Townsend add to this bunker of useless bar stewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Squad is **** poor when you break it down, England are in a right mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Not a great squad really. But then again, what are the alternatives? Genuinely. I'd have Bertrand and Austin in, but anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 England under Hodgson are crap and will most likely be embarrassed yet again in the Euros. Nil-pwa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Terrible overall selection once again....from our point of view, Bertrand an integral part of the best defence in the PL but still can't get in. Why can't the England hierarchy see what the rest of us can see? I hope one day to genuinely enthuse about our national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Not far off the best squad we've got available to be fair. Just shows how little genuine English talent there is. Gibbs, Shaw and Townsend are the obvious WTF candidates. On the up side I'm glad he's had the balls to drop Chambers and Lambert. Sends the right message out about leaving regular football to go and sit on a big club's bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Sorry I'm not getting the hate for Gibbs? Doesn't he play left back for the 3rd best team in the country? Chelsea and man city don't play an English left back as first choice so Gibbs is top of the tree where English left backs are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 +1 I like Gibbs a lot. He is the archetype Arsenal player: Quick, inconsistent + always injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 (edited) Sorry I'm not getting the hate for Gibbs? Doesn't he play left back for the 3rd best team in the country? Chelsea and man city don't play an English left back as first choice so Gibbs is top of the tree where English left backs are concerned. Depends what statistic(s) one uses to determine "best". Gibbs has been part of a defence that has conceded c.50% more goals than the defence that Bertrand has been part of. Indeed, Arsenal have the joint worst defence of the top 6 sides. It is therefore conceivable that Bertrand is a better defender (albeit as part of a better defensive unit rather than a better overall team) than Gibbs. Making player comparisons based on the 'better team' is a much broader brush than making player comparisons based on 'positional units' within teams. IMO of course. Edited 19 March, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Sorry I'm not getting the hate for Gibbs? Doesn't he play left back for the 3rd best team in the country? Chelsea and man city don't play an English left back as first choice so Gibbs is top of the tree where English left backs are concerned. By that logic there would never be a Saints player called up. In that case why is Baines in the squad since Everton are languishing near the bottom of the league? It's supposed to be based on how good the players are, not on how well their teams are performing. Where Baines is regarded as a decent player in an under performing Everton team, Gibbs is generally thought to be a fairly average player in an in form Arsenal team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Sorry I'm not getting the hate for Gibbs? Doesn't he play left back for the 3rd best team in the country? Chelsea and man city don't play an English left back as first choice so Gibbs is top of the tree where English left backs are concerned. Bertrand is a key part of a defence that has only conceded 21 Premier League goals in 29 games. Best record in the league. Arsenal still look shaky at the back and Gibbs hasn't shone at all this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 +1 Not sure we can trust people with plural surnames. I reckon his mum was gangbang by the BeeGees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Also Monreal has been ahead of Gibbs at left back most of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Alright, I was only asking the question. I want Bertrand in because he's a Saints player, the reason why most others here want him In . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Also Monreal has been ahead of Gibbs at left back most of this season. Yes, this is what I thought. As I only really remember him coming off the bench in most cases this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Not sure we can trust people with plural surnames. I reckon his mum was gangbang by the BeeGees gr8 joke bear v.clever wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 No point in picking Bertrand as he has signed his contract whereas Clyne ...........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 why all the upset, Clynne all our England players will be tapped up on duty and so the less the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 +1 Not sure we can trust people with plural surnames. I reckon his mum was gangbang by the BeeGees Lulu was his mum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 why all the upset, Clynne all our England players will be tapped up on duty and so the less the better Yeah, its an FA conspiracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Don't get why there are 3 left backs in the squad. It wasn't long ago he picked Danny Rose ahead of Bertrand too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 laughable if you think England would be any better under another manager. We're achieving at the right level for the quality of player that he has to choose from. No world class players, only one or two at the level below that. The fact we are topping our group is as much as we should hope for. Just not the calibre of players around to win international trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 +1 Not sure we can trust people with plural surnames. I reckon his mum was gangbang by the BeeGees Me neither bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Ched Evans, tokyos, Ched Evans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 It was a hell of a night bears, what a sandwich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 laughable if you think England would be any better under another manager. We're achieving at the right level for the quality of player that he has to choose from. No world class players, only one or two at the level below that. The fact we are topping our group is as much as we should hope for. Just not the calibre of players around to win international trophies. Tony Pulis should be England's next manager. He would be both effective and annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The bloke does my f()cking head in. No idea at all. Hart, Darlow, Heaton Bertrand, Gibbs, Clyne, Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Trippier, Tomkins. Barkley, Walcott, Delph, Sterling, Mason, Hughes, Shelvey, Cork, Milner, Lallana Austin, Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane Standby: Berahino, Ings, Henderson, Walker, Cresswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The bloke does my f()cking head in. No idea at all. Hart, Darlow, Heaton Bertrand, Gibbs, Clyne, Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Trippier, Tomkins. Barkley, Walcott, Delph, Sterling, Mason, Hughes, Shelvey, Cork, Milner, Lallana Austin, Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane Standby: Berahino, Ings, Henderson, Walker, Cresswell Lol at not picking Forster... Or Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Watching a bit of Everton playing Kiev in the Europa ...worrying to think that two of Everton's (frankly dire) back four are consider England first choice defenders......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Watching a bit of Everton playing Kiev in the Europa ...worrying to think that two of Everton's (frankly dire) back four are consider England first choice defenders......... The only really decent CB we have is Cahill. We dropped a bollock when we publically denounced Terry. I mean, the blokes an idiot but he is still exceptional. The england team is starting to look half decent in the striking department again, midfields getting a bit stronger too. Woeful in defence though, we have some excellent FBs coming through but CB is just dire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The only really decent CB we have is Cahill. We dropped a bollock when we publically denounced Terry. I mean, the blokes an idiot but he is still exceptional. The england team is starting to look half decent in the striking department again, midfields getting a bit stronger too. Woeful in defence though, we have some excellent FBs coming through but CB is just dire. To true. Quality English CBs are a bit far and between these days. I know Baines has been injured but he looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of seasons ago yet is still rated more than Bertrand by Hodgoson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The bloke does my f()cking head in. No idea at all. Hart, Darlow, Heaton Bertrand, Gibbs, Clyne, Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Trippier, Tomkins. Barkley, Walcott, Delph, Sterling, Mason, Hughes, Shelvey, Cork, Milner, Lallana Austin, Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane Standby: Berahino, Ings, Henderson, Walker, Cresswell Quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The bloke does my f()cking head in. No idea at all. Hart, Darlow, Heaton What have Darlow or Heaton done to be ahead of Forster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/18804/9766319/harry-kane-alan-shearer-on-england8217s-new-striker-hope ^^ oh jesus wept Comparing to the lad to Shearer.... This is why our team will never do well- too much pressure at a young age- let the lad perform consistently for a few years... Look at Barkley, Wilshere etc all suffering as a result right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 19 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The only really decent CB we have is Cahill. We dropped a bollock when we publically denounced Terry. I mean, the blokes an idiot but he is still exceptional. The england team is starting to look half decent in the striking department again, midfields getting a bit stronger too. Woeful in defence though, we have some excellent FBs coming through but CB is just dire. Who are those two English lads playing together at Swindon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Did Lambo get in the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Did Lambo get in the squad? No chance. It's all (rightly) about Kane now. Lambert has played his last England match (not that he played that many anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 No chance. It's all (rightly) about Kane now. Lambert has played his last England match (not that he played that many anyway). At least he can thank Brendon for making him the player he has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 At least he can thank Brendon for making him the player he has become. Still miss him at saints though. Would have bee a great option for us when Pelle's season went to ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I thought, when appointed, that Woy would have a fresh approach to things. But no, it's just the same old script with (largely) new actors. I liked the way that the press didn't big us up for Brazil. But that all went out the window with Woys taking positives, we played well, etc etc, when we were dire. Now he just annoys me with his (almost) sanctimonious waffle. The England team has regressed in my mind to where it was a few years back - an irrelevance and a bore. What makes it worse is that when it is on TV, you have to put up with the inane guff coming from Andy Townsend and Clive Tyldesley. I know we are getting rid of Townsend soon, but he will be replaced with some equally idiotic journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 The bloke does my f()cking head in. No idea at all. Hart, Darlow, Heaton Bertrand, Gibbs, Clyne, Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Trippier, Tomkins. Barkley, Walcott, Delph, Sterling, Mason, Hughes, Shelvey, Cork, Milner, Lallana Austin, Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Kane Standby: Berahino, Ings, Henderson, Walker, Cresswell LOL. So transparent. You only posted that entire squad just to get another dig in at Fraser Forster. Best defensive record in the top division really sticking in the old throat ain't it Crabby? What a mess we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I just don't rate him. Lol at you for thinking you've "worked me out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I just don't rate him. So instead you pick a keeper who hasn't played a single top flight game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stpedro Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 what Shawcross did wrong was the game against Sweden. He was so embarrassingly bad in that short time against someone skilful. No experience against European players at top level, bloke is decent in England, but not international quality. Poor distribution skills, good in the air, but most of the best teams don't play punt and cross football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I just don't rate him. Lol at you for thinking you've "worked me out" I definitely worked you out last summer as someone without a freaking clue. What a mess we're in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 So another crap squad from Woy..... but players from the usual big clubs.........face it guys England will never win anything again with mediocre players from the big clubs and I include Rooney in the mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 clever girl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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