End of season predictor - just for fun

Starting with the Stoke game, I have run this through to the end of the season ! (4th for us) Burnley, Sunderland, QPR relegated

http://www.thesportspredictor.com/#/predictor/pro

i've got the table ending as we are today

I did one a while a go a few times and we ended up 6th every time ahead of Spurs. However since then the form of one or two clubs above us has dipped.

I still think we'll finish 6th or 7th but it will still be a good season. A lot can happen in a short space of time though. Ask Man City.

With my "Saintsweb the world is ending" hat on, I had us never winning another game because we're rubbish and finishing 10th.

With my MLG hat on, I had us being awesome and finishing 4th be beating Man City on the last day.

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[TR]

[TH]Pos[/TH]

[TH]Team[/TH]

[TH]Pld[/TH]

[TH]GD[/TH]

[TH]Pts[/TH]

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[TR]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]Chelsea[/TD]

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[TD=class: ng-binding]42[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]88[/TD]

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[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]Arsenal[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]35[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]80[/TD]

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[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]Man City[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]36[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]77[/TD]

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[TD]4[/TD]

[TD]Man Utd[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]32[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]77[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]Liverpool[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]16[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]73[/TD]

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[TD]6[/TD]

[TD]Southampton[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]25[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]69[/TD]

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[TD]7[/TD]

[TD]Tottenham[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]38[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]7[/TD]

[TD=class: ng-binding]66[/TD]

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1 Chelsea 38 45 92

2 Arsenal 38 36 82

3 Man Utd 38 29 75

4 Man City 38 34 73

5 Southampton 38 26 71

6 Liverpool 38 13 68

7 Tottenham 38 9 65

8 West Ham 38 7 59

9 Swansea 38 -1 55

10 C Palace 38 3 53

11 Stoke 38 -4 51

12 Everton 38 -1 48

13 Newcastle 38 -24 39

14 West Brom 38 -22 36

15 Aston Villa 38 -25 33

16 Burnley 38 -27 31

17 Sunderland 38 -28 30

18 Hull 38 -22 28

19 QPR 38 -24 28

20 Leicester 38 -24 28

GD not really relevant as I put 1-0 in for victories.

I had us 6th on 65 points.

Top 4 of..

Chelsea

Arsenal

City

United

Liverpool 5th

Spurs 7th

QPR, Sunderland and Hull to go down

i've got the table ending as we are today

That's the most likely scenario, tbh. Can't see where Liverpool are going to drop enough points for us to do better than them even if we do haul City back in.

yeah i had us 6th too

I didn't realise Sunderland was in such big trouble, I've got them finishing bottom

6th is still bloody impressive though, gets us into the Europa League Group Stages*.

*except if someone who finishes below us in the League wins the FA Cup.

Pos Team P GD Pts

1 Chelsea 38 41 89

2 Arsenal 38 38 79

3 Man Utd 38 34 78

4 Man City 38 36 74

5 Liverpool 38 16 69

6 SAINTS 38 28 68

7 Tottenham 38 6 65

8 Swansea 38 -3 55

9 West Ham 38 1 51

10 Stoke City 38 -4 51

11 C Palace 38 -3 47

12 Everton 38 -5 43

13 West Brom 38 -20 40

14 Newcastle 38 -22 39

15 Aston Villa 38 -24 36

16 Burnley 38 -23 35

17 Hull City 38 -20 32

18 Leicester 38 -22 32

19 Sunderland 38 -29 32

20 Q P R 38 -25 31

Had Burnley for a last day win, but that relegation zone looks nailbiting to say the least.

Wasn't overly harsh on Spurs, yet still only get them to 65 - they have a tough set of fixtures. On the flip side, Liverpool and Man City have a fairly straightforward batch.

Koeman's target is to have 69 at end of season

Dunno how keen Kat is tho

I had us in 7th which would be depressing. Spurs just a point above us with Liverpool two above us. The Spurs game is a huge one.

I had us in 7th which would be depressing. Spurs just a point above us with Liverpool two above us. The Spurs game is a huge one.

Still be enough for Europa League 3rd Qualifying Round in the likely event Arsenal or Liverpool win the FA Cup, and better than last season.

Still be enough for Europa League 3rd Qualifying Round in the likely event Arsenal or Liverpool win the FA Cup, and better than last season.

I know but I want us to finish above one of Spurs or Liverpool.

1 Chelsea 38 50 90

2 Arsenal 38 37 80

3 Man City 38 39 77

4 Man Utd 38 33 77

5 Southampton 38 23 66

6 Liverpool 38 12 66

7 Tottenham 38 2 59

8 Stoke 38 -2 52

9 C Palace 38 0 51

10 West Ham 38 -1 50

11 Swansea 38 -5 50

12 Everton 38 -3 46

13 Newcastle 38 -20 43

14 Aston Villa 38 -19 39

15 Leicester 38 -18 35

16 West Brom 38 -26 34

17 Hull 38 -18 33

18 QPR 38 -24 32

19 Sunderland 38 -31 32

20 Burnley 38 -29 30

Thats with us drawing vs Stoke and losing vs Leicester and Man City. Probably being optimistic with Liverpools results though!

1Chelsea385090

2Arsenal383780

3Man City383977

4Man Utd383377

5Southampton382366

6Liverpool381266

7Tottenham38259

8Stoke38-252

9C Palace38051

10West Ham38-150

11Swansea38-550

12Everton38-346

13Newcastle38-2043

14Aston Villa38-1939

15Leicester38-1835

16West Brom38-2634

17Hull38-1833

18QPR38-2432

19Sunderland38-3132

20Burnley38-2930

 

 

Thats with us drawing vs Stoke and losing vs Leicester and Man City. Probably being optimistic with Liverpools results though!

Do you have West brom to lose every game?

Do you have West brom to lose every game?

Have you seen their fixtures? Aside from Newcastle,where i gave them 1 point, i honestly think they will lose the rest

I'll be annoyed if we finish 3 points or less behind Liverpool, particularly after getting completely stitched up against them by Friend. They do have some nice fixtures though and by the time they play Chelsea the title might even be done and dusted. Hopefully the Chelsea players aren't all out on the lash that week. However: i) we do play twice in the league before Liverpool next play a league game so we have the chance to get a decent lead over them and apply some more pressure; and ii) Liverpool really aren't much cop so hopefully they make a mess of an "easy" fixture.

If we beat Spurs we will finish above them. If we draw with them we will probably finish above them. If they beat us I expect they will finish above us.

I reckon, optimistically, our results will go:

Stoke - win

Spurs - draw

Sunderland - win

Leicester - win

Villa - win

City - draw

70 points and fifth place. If we can make that five wins a draw we could still nick fourth but I think we'll run out of steam (first goal is absolutely crucial for us at the moment and it only takes one long-range strike/set-piece/dodgy penalty to go against us before we score for us to be in trouble in a match).

I just really, really, really do not want Liverpool to finish in the top four. I would rather Spurs did.

As with many others, my top 7 is:

1. Chelsea

2. Arsenal

3. Utd

4. Citeh

5. Liverpool

6. SAINTS

7. Spuds

Unfortunately, I really can't see us overhauling those ahead of us.

I have Hull, QPR and Sunderland going down; with Leicester, WBA and Burnley very close. I think it's going to be interesting at the bottom until the final day. It's nice not to be part of that!

                  GD    PTS
01. Chelsea       47    92
02. Arsenal       35    79
03. Man City      42    77
04. Man Utd       26    70
----------------------------
05. Liverpool     17    70
06. SAINTS        24    67
07. Tottenham      8    65
08. Swansea       -3    55
09. West Ham       6    52
10. Palace         0    51
11. Stoke         -6    47
12. Everton       -4    44
13. Newcastle    -16    44
14. Aston Villa  -20    39
15. West Brom    -25    34
16. Burnley      -25    33
17. Sunderland   -31    32
----------------------------
18. Hull         -21    31
19. QPR          -30    30
20. Leicester    -24    28

Final day has a battle between Man Utd, Liverpool and us for 4th - despite Liverpool's victory at Stoke the place goes to Man Utd who draw 0-0 away at Hull, while we get beaten 2-0 at the Etihad. At the other end of the table, Hull and QPR both need to win their games to keep their place in the division but both draw against Man Utd and Leicester respectively.

Some difficult results to predict in there though, it definitely won't be clean-cut between now and the end of the season at all!

With my "Saintsweb the world is ending" hat on, I had us never winning another game because we're rubbish and finishing 10th.

 

With my MLG hat on, I had us being awesome and finishing 4th be beating Man City on the last day.

Then wear the MLG hat and enjoy life.

Pos Team Pld GD Pts

1 Chelsea 38 47 90

2 Man Utd 38 36 81

3 Arsenal 38 39 79

4 Man City 38 36 75

5 Soton 38 29 70

6 Liverpool 38 12 68

7 Tottenh'm 38 4 62

8 Stoke 38 -1 54

9 West Ham 38 3 52

10 C Palace 38 2 52

11 Swansea 38 -4 52

12 Everton 38 -3 46

13 Aston Villa 38 -21 41

14 Newcastle 38 -20 39

15 W Brom 38 -24 34

16 Hull 38 -22 31

17 QPR 38 -24 30

18 Sunderl'nd 38 -35 30

19 Burnley 38 -28 29

20 Leicester 38 -26 28

I have us finishing 4th.

1 Chelsea 38 40 85

2 Arsenal 38 35 81

3 Man Utd 38 32 77

4 Man City 38 33 73

5 Tottenham 38 8 68

6 Liverpool 38 12 67

7 Southampton 38 23 65

8 Swansea 38 -1 57

9 Stoke 38 -4 51

10 West Ham 38 1 50

11 C Palace 38 -2 49

12 Everton 38 -4 45

13 Aston Villa 38 -21 39

14 Newcastle 38 -22 37

15 West Brom 38 -19 36

16 Hull 38 -17 34

17 Burnley 38 -25 33

18 Sunderland 38 -26 33

19 Leicester 38 -21 32

20 QPR 38 -22 32

I got Saints 6th and a close finish at the bottom (with teams avoiding the drop with less than 35 points)

I have us finishing 4th.

I'm not sure how anyone can be totally realistic and end up with us in fourth. It's possible but pretty unlikely.

I'm not sure how anyone can be totally realistic and end up with us in fourth. It's possible but pretty unlikely.

This. I don't need to do a prediction thing to know we won't finish fourth. 6th or 7th, hopeful of a Tottenham collapse and we make 6th. And that's your brilliant season right there.

I know but I want us to finish above one of Spurs or Liverpool.

We could yet come 7th and still do that, though it is pretty unlikely.

                  GD    PTS
01. Chelsea       47    92
02. Arsenal       35    79
03. Man City      42    77
04. Man Utd       26    70
----------------------------
05. Liverpool     17    70
06. SAINTS        24    67
07. Tottenham      8    65
08. Swansea       -3    55
09. West Ham       6    52
10. Palace         0    51
11. Stoke         -6    47
12. Everton       -4    44
13. Newcastle    -16    44
14. Aston Villa  -20    39
15. West Brom    -25    34
16. Burnley      -25    33
17. Sunderland   -31    32
----------------------------
18. Hull         -21    31
19. QPR          -30    30
20. Leicester    -24    28

 

Final day has a battle between Man Utd, Liverpool and us for 4th - despite Liverpool's victory at Stoke the place goes to Man Utd who draw 0-0 away at Hull, while we get beaten 2-0 at the Etihad. At the other end of the table, Hull and QPR both need to win their games to keep their place in the division but both draw against Man Utd and Leicester respectively.

 

Some difficult results to predict in there though, it definitely won't be clean-cut between now and the end of the season at all!

Interesting, because if we instead beat City by one goal, we'll come 4th on goal difference.

you have to take into account that we are in 'silly season' and there is bound to be unexpected results.....

I'm not sure how anyone can be totally realistic and end up with us in fourth. It's possible but pretty unlikely.

It's fairly unlikely, but you can make a fairly easy case for winning our first 5 matches on a game-by-game basis, and you can make a pretty sound case for City continuing to bugger things up. The problem is that Liverpool's fixtures appear to be marginally easier than ours.

It's fairly unlikely, but you can make a fairly easy case for winning our first 5 matches on a game-by-game basis, and you can make a pretty sound case for City continuing to bugger things up. The problem is that Liverpool's fixtures appear to be marginally easier than ours.

They do, but they also could have the Cup Final "Sponsored By Stevie G's effing Birthday" to worry about, plus extra mid week games due to the Semi final to fit in. We just need Lovern to stay fit........

It's fairly unlikely, but you can make a fairly easy case for winning our first 5 matches on a game-by-game basis, and you can make a pretty sound case for City continuing to bugger things up. The problem is that Liverpool's fixtures appear to be marginally easier than ours.

It's very unlikely we will win all five of our games.

I have Saints tying City for 4th place, but the Saints taking 4th on goal difference.

How you say?

Due to the 0-8 result against Sunderland on May2nd. Don't tell me it is not possible. We know it is possible.

It's fairly unlikely, but you can make a fairly easy case for winning our first 5 matches on a game-by-game basis, and you can make a pretty sound case for City continuing to bugger things up. The problem is that Liverpool's fixtures appear to be marginally easier than ours.

A six game winning streak going into the last game of the season?

Not entirely sure how you can make a "fairly easy case" for that, but I am a miserable git*.

*Note to self: avoid threads with "Just for fun" in the title.

I'm not sure how anyone can be totally realistic and end up with us in fourth. It's possible but pretty unlikely.

you have to take into account that we are in 'silly season' and there is bound to be unexpected results.....

I have us winning the league.

But this does involve ineligible players, flu outbreaks, lasagne poisoning and FFP breaches.

I think that simply put, we will get champions league if we are capable of beating man city last game of the season.

If we win that game I have us to get champions league.

I think the battles for 4th/5th between Liverpool and Man City, and 6th/7th between us and Spurs will be the big stories.

i might be not giving us our proper dues but sadly I think it will be Chelsea, Arsenal, ManU, ManC (sneaking in), Liverpool, Spurs, Saints. Still a fantastic season though.

A six game winning streak going into the last game of the season?

 

Not entirely sure how you can make a "fairly easy case" for that, but I am a miserable git*.

 

*Note to self: avoid threads with "Just for fun" in the title.

As I say, you can easily make a game-by-game case for us beating 5 sides which have been proven not to be as good as us over the 32 matches so far. Obviously probability is not in our favour in terms of achieving the best outcome from those games cumulatively.

As I say, you can easily make a game-by-game case for us beating 5 sides which have been proven not to be as good as us over the 32 matches so far. Obviously probability is not in our favour in terms of achieving the best outcome from those games cumulatively.

you could make a case for us winning in MOST fixtures individually. But we wont.

Arsenal have done what? won 7 on the bounce. First time they have done that since the 'invincible' era 10 or so years ago

I think that simply put, we will get champions league if we are capable of beating man city last game of the season.

 

If we win that game I have us to get champions league.

But our performances against Arsenal (H), Man U (both games), and Chelsea (Away more than home) have shown us capable of winning that game - we need to be in a position that that match actually means something when we come to play it, and the 5 matches before it will be (only slightly less than) 5 times more important as the City game.

you could make a case for us winning in MOST fixtures individually. But we wont.

Arsenal have done what? won 7 on the bounce. First time they have done that since the 'invincible' era 10 or so years ago

Everest moon etc.

We should be favourites to win in all 5 of those matches, albeit narrowly over Spurs.

I have us winning the league.

 

But this does involve ineligible players, flu outbreaks, lasagne poisoning and FFP breaches.

At least we still can, mathematically. Spurs can't.

Finishing 7th (63pts) with QPR, Hull & Sunderland going down.

Pos

Team

Pld

GD

Pts

1 Chelsea 38 43 84

2 Arsenal 38 42 80

3 Man City 38 36 75

4 Man Utd 38 34 75

5 Liverpool 38 20 73

6 Tottenham 38 9 64

7 Southampton 38 22 63

8 Swansea 38 -3 52

9 C Palace 38 1 51

10 Stoke 38 -4 49

11 Everton 38 -1 47

12 West Ham 38 -1 46

13 Aston Villa 38 -19 42

14 Newcastle 38 -23 38

15 West Brom 38 -26 35

16 Leicester 38 -18 34

17 Burnley 38 -26 33

18 QPR 38 -24 32

19 Hull 38 -26 31

20 Sunderland 38 -36 30

HOW POINTS ARE SCORED

PREDICTED TABLE

Based on your predictions, after Week 38 the table will be:

Pos Team Pld GD Pts

1 Chelsea 38 49 90

2 Arsenal 38 38 79

3 Man Utd 38 34 77

4 Man City 38 34 74

5 Southampton 38 27 69

6 Tottenham 38 11 68

7 Liverpool 38 13 66

8 C Palace 38 5 54

9 West Ham 38 2 51

10 Swansea 38 -6 50

11 Stoke 38 -4 49

12 Everton 38 -6 43

13 Aston Villa 38 -21 39

14 Newcastle 38 -22 38

15 Leicester 38 -19 36

16 West Brom 38 -24 35

17 Hull 38 -24 31

18 Burnley 38 -25 31

19 Sunderland 38 -37 30

20 QPR 38 -25 29

Didnt realise Leicester's run of fixtures was so favourable. I think I was fairly positive about our results, I just cant see Man City messing up badly enough to let us in.

Pos Team GD Pts

1 Chelsea 51 94

2 Arsenal 38 81

3 Man City 40 79

4 Man United 32 77

5 Southampton 27 71

6 Liverpool 17 70

7 Spurs 7 66

8 Swansea -4 53

9 West Ham 1 51

10 C Palace -2 51

11 Stoke -4 51

12 Everton -4 44

13 Aston Villa -21 39

14 West Brom -23 36

15 Newcastle -27 35

16 QPR -22 33

17 Burnley -24 33

18 Leicester -22 31

19 Hull -24 29

20 Sunderland -36 29

Would like to see Sunderland and Leicester go down. Probably Newcastle, too but it would take quite some doing for them to get relegated now. I'd like to actually see QPR stay up because I've got a mate who supports them and don't mind them now Saggy Chops has gone.

So, using the wisdom of crowds, based on the data above, the Final table, only slighted skewed by everyone being pro-Saints and probably slightly anti-Liverpool and Spurs (which doesn't look like it affects the final standings) looks like this:

Chelsea		89	POS: 1
Arsenal         80	POS: 2-3
Man U		76	POS: 2-4
Man C		75	POS: 3-4
Liverpool	69	POS: 5-7
Saints		68	POS: 5-7* from those who have specified pts. others have suggested 4th
Spurs		65	POS: 5-7

Bit worried if that Saints/Spurs bias is the difference in the one result between the two clubs.

So, using the wisdom of crowds, based on the data above, the Final table, only slighted skewed by everyone being pro-Saints and probably slightly anti-Liverpool and Spurs (which doesn't look like it affects the final standings) looks like this:

 

Chelsea        89    POS: 1
Arsenal         80    POS: 2-3
Man U        76    POS: 2-4
Man C        75    POS: 3-4
Liverpool    69    POS: 5-7
Saints        68    POS: 5-7* from those who have specified pts. others have suggested 4th
Spurs        65    POS: 5-7

 

Bit worried if that Saints/Spurs bias is the difference in the one result between the two clubs.

I put that one down as a draw. But had us finishing 4 points clear of Spurs anyway.