Saint-Armstrong Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 What a plonker - with it all to lose, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 BBC Humberside Sport @HumbersideSport 8m8 minutes ago BREAKING NEWS: #Hull City have suspended midfielder Jake Livermore amid allegations of a failed drugs test #hcafc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 People have been allowed to carry on playing for far less, so he'll be back. Still an idiot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLiam Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 saw this on facebook: "Hearing that the hull midfielder said he had to choose between cocaine and alcohol, saying: "I respect my brain but I value my livermore" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 Addictions are hard to overcome. I'm addicted to football and desperately wish I wasn't as money has made the game thoroughly sick, but I just can't walk away from it. I don't know much about cocaine though, whether it is addictive or just a drug of choice. But with a lucrative career in football depending on being drug-free the stupidity of players who do this is really amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 No surprise. I'm surprised more are not outed but money talks I guess. More BS for Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 The Secret Footballer alluded to the fact that this sort of thing happened much more frequently than was reported. Often shielded by the media with bans going on 'behind closed doors' masked as an injury. The Premier League more than happy to comply in order to protect their brand. I think he made the statement that next time a player is missing for length of time with a suspicious injury, you'd have to ask the question... Based on this, I'm guessing Delgado was a skag addict of Trainspotting proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 The Secret Footballer alluded to the fact that this sort of thing happened much more frequently than was reported. Often shielded by the media with bans going on 'behind closed doors' masked as an injury. The Premier League more than happy to comply in order to protect their brand. I think he made the statement that next time a player is missing for length of time with a suspicious injury, you'd have to ask the question... Based on this, I'm guessing Delgado was a skag addict of Trainspotting proportions. Not looking great for Jay Rod either. Is it just me or was he mumbling and slurring a bit in his interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 Damn nuisance - could have done with him playing a blinder against Spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 The Secret Footballer alluded to the fact that this sort of thing happened much more frequently than was reported. Often shielded by the media with bans going on 'behind closed doors' masked as an injury. The Premier League more than happy to comply in order to protect their brand. I think he made the statement that next time a player is missing for length of time with a suspicious injury, you'd have to ask the question.... My sister worked in drug testing for a while and dealt with footballers. What you say is very much true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 I expect quite a few people have tested positive for cocaine in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 The Secret Footballer alluded to the fact that this sort of thing happened much more frequently than was reported. Often shielded by the media with bans going on 'behind closed doors' masked as an injury. The Premier League more than happy to comply in order to protect their brand. I think he made the statement that next time a player is missing for length of time with a suspicious injury, you'd have to ask the question... Based on this, I'm guessing Delgado was a skag addict of Trainspotting proportions. Heard similar from someone that is a bit of a 'gossip journalist'. Not so much the bans, but that players going out and doing coke is fairly widespread. Out Saturday after the game, Sunday off, call in sick Monday. Supposedly it's out of your system by the Tuesday. I'm not up to speed enough of the testing or how it works to know if that is right, but just what I was told. I'm sure most have heard the rumours of a couple of Prem players that have had lengthy lay offs which some have suggested were actually drugs bans. Not keen on naming names, as I have no idea if such accusations have any substance whatsoever. Not sure I believe them entirely, but stranger things have happened I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 Seems very unlikely famous young millionaires would be dabbling in coke. Agreed. It's completely unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 Some players just have a nose for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 15 May, 2015 Share Posted 15 May, 2015 Drug testing in football is such a joke there is no need for anybody to get caught. Swimming and athletics have far more stringent testing and competitors can be tested anytime, anywhere. The drug testers can turn up at their houses at three in the morning. You don't have to let them in but miss three tests and you are considered guilty as Christine Ohuruogu found out to her cost. Football has no such out-of-competition testing. The testers have to present the Premier League with a list at the start of the season of the clubs they will be visiting and the dates they will be calling. And testers are only allowed to test those present at the training gound on the day (the true reason behind Rio Ferdinand's missed test and subsequent ban is pretty hilarious and farcical). So if your star striker is a coke hound, you simply make sure he is not there that day to take part in the pre-training session raffle where the names of those present are selected at random. Yes there is random post-match testing but as somebody previously pointed out, coke goes through your system in 36 hours so all he has to do is lay off it for two days before a game. Football has got these concessions from WADA and Sport England (who do the testing in this country) as the testers know it's the limit of cooperation they are going to get from a sport which is fully aware that its players are the template for recreational drug use - young men with plenty of relaxation time on their hands and a fair amount of disposable income - and which does have reputation to protect. The most surprising thing to me is not when somebody does get caught, but the fact that anybody gets caught from a system that is clearly designed to ensure what must be huge numbers of recreational users do not get netted. Quite often, the players who do get caught are those the club want to hang out to dry. I'm not saying this is the case with Livermore but it can give a club a good excuse to roll out the Gross Misconduct and breach of contract reason for sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 16 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Jose Baxter fails drugs test: http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/sheffield-united-jose-baxter-2459884.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 On opening this I was hoping for end of season Karma; Gerrard. Wouldn't that have been fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 16 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Wolves goalkeeper Aaron McCarey fails drugs test: http://www.wolves.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-aaron-mccarey-2459900.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Heard similar from someone that is a bit of a 'gossip journalist'. Not so much the bans, but that players going out and doing coke is fairly widespread. Out Saturday after the game, Sunday off, call in sick Monday. Supposedly it's out of your system by the Tuesday. I'm not up to speed enough of the testing or how it works to know if that is right, but just what I was told. I'm sure most have heard the rumours of a couple of Prem players that have had lengthy lay offs which some have suggested were actually drugs bans. Not keen on naming names, as I have no idea if such accusations have any substance whatsoever. Not sure I believe them entirely, but stranger things have happened I guess. I can see exactly where you are coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2015 (edited) Update in tomorrow's nationals... Livermore was struggling with depression due to the death of his baby. After that news, he then went on a huge bender, which saw him snorting cocaine. Edited 12 August, 2015 by Saint-Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Update in tomorrow's nationals... Livermore was struggling with depression due to the death of his baby. After that news, he then went on a huge bender, which saw him snorting cocaine. How is this news when it was known months ago? Jermaine Jenas was even on MotD the day after basically being understanding and saying it wasn't as clear cut as it seemed and it went all over the place after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 12 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2015 How is this news when it was known months ago? Jermaine Jenas was even on MotD the day after basically being understanding and saying it wasn't as clear cut as it seemed and it went all over the place after that. It was known months ago? I hadn't seen it anywhere until tonight. The Chief Sports Writer of the Daily Mail published it tonight for the first time, for what I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 It was known months ago? I hadn't seen it anywhere until tonight. The Chief Sports Writer of the Daily Mail published it tonight for the first time, for what I can see. Ah, maybe it was planted there in a drunken conversation in Salzburg and I'm meant to have forgotten it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Jay Rod is partial to the odd Amsterdam's finest haven't you noticed he always looks baked? according to my old man his mate decorated his house and is in the know lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 13 August, 2015 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Jay Rod is partial to the odd Amsterdam's finest haven't you noticed he always looks baked? according to my old man his mate decorated his house and is in the know lol Errrr, is that really the sort of thing to post on here?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Errrr, is that really the sort of thing to post on here?! That's exactly the sort of thing that should be posted on here. I'm much more interested already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 I saw Jay Rod in the Chilworth Arms once and can confirm he did not have an eight inch biffter on the go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 I saw Jay Rod in the Chilworth Arms once and can confirm he did not have an eight inch biffter on the go. I saw Mayuka in the pool at David Lloyd recently and he had an 8 inch something going on... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 I saw Mayuka in the pool at David Lloyd recently and he had an 8 inch something going on... Were you checking out all of the men?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Is cocaine performance enhancing? Surely, unless it's taken with the pre-match meal or a quick snort at half time, if anything it would have the opposite effect. In which case what's the problem? I'm not condoning dug taking but if it doesn't artificially improve your performance then why, apart from "image" reasons, should football authorities concern themselves with it? Employers, i.e the clubs, on the other hand should be coming down on it like a ton of bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 How is this news when it was known months ago? Jermaine Jenas was even on MotD the day after basically being understanding and saying it wasn't as clear cut as it seemed and it went all over the place after that. At the time a lot people mentioned that he had some serious personal issues going on but I didn't hear anyone talk the specifics. This is the first I've heard about his child etc. Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Didn't Strachan have a problem involving a couple of our players and white powder about 10 years or so ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Drug testing in football is such a joke there is no need for anybody to get caught. Swimming and athletics have far more stringent testing and competitors can be tested anytime, anywhere. The drug testers can turn up at their houses at three in the morning. You don't have to let them in but miss three tests and you are considered guilty as Christine Ohuruogu found out to her cost. Football has no such out-of-competition testing. The testers have to present the Premier League with a list at the start of the season of the clubs they will be visiting and the dates they will be calling. And testers are only allowed to test those present at the training gound on the day (the true reason behind Rio Ferdinand's missed test and subsequent ban is pretty hilarious and farcical). So if your star striker is a coke hound, you simply make sure he is not there that day to take part in the pre-training session raffle where the names of those present are selected at random. Yes there is random post-match testing but as somebody previously pointed out, coke goes through your system in 36 hours so all he has to do is lay off it for two days before a game. Football has got these concessions from WADA and Sport England (who do the testing in this country) as the testers know it's the limit of cooperation they are going to get from a sport which is fully aware that its players are the template for recreational drug use - young men with plenty of relaxation time on their hands and a fair amount of disposable income - and which does have reputation to protect. The most surprising thing to me is not when somebody does get caught, but the fact that anybody gets caught from a system that is clearly designed to ensure what must be huge numbers of recreational users do not get netted. Quite often, the players who do get caught are those the club want to hang out to dry. I'm not saying this is the case with Livermore but it can give a club a good excuse to roll out the Gross Misconduct and breach of contract reason for sacking him. Shame we couldn't have planted some on Mr Osvaldo then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Is cocaine performance enhancing? Surely, unless it's taken with the pre-match meal or a quick snort at half time, if anything it would have the opposite effect. In which case what's the problem? I'm not condoning dug taking but if it doesn't artificially improve your performance then why, apart from "image" reasons, should football authorities concern themselves with it? Employers, i.e the clubs, on the other hand should be coming down on it like a ton of bricks. It's more to do with the politics of the Premier League being seen to be accommodating of the international regulations on banned substances, whether they happen to be performance-enhancing or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Most of our fans in Amsterdam last Wednesday night had powder all over their nose! Was this in the Gay District? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 13 August, 2015 Share Posted 13 August, 2015 Perhaps this why there are so many footballers doing the irish hankie on the pitch and sniffing alot in interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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