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So while you busy yourself making puerile comments, your shining hero Corbyn remains silent while Assad's murderers go door-to-door massacring men, women and children in East Aleppo.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38301629

 

This is what Corbyn's allies on today's Morning Star call, with criminal cynicism, the 'liberation of Aleppo'.

 

Do you agree with this? Do you agree with the conspiracy theory that the White Helmets are western stooges and the people they rescue merely crisis actors?

 

Will you agree with the White Helmets' appeal:

 

For years, our humanitarian volunteers have worked to save the lives of our people in Aleppo: operating in underground hospitals, rescuing entire families buried under the rubble and risking our lives to document what the daily war crimes committed by Assad regime [sic] and its ally Russia. We can do no more.

 

We can't believe the world's most powerful countries can't get 100,000 civilians to safety that is 4 KM away!

 

In short, are you interested in politics at all, or merely in being a brainless gimp in a 'personality' cult?

Do you have evidence for this?

https://youtu.be/c8JppJyVxYU

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An alternative view of Verbal's beloved white helmets:

http://linkis.com/21stcenturywire.com/LsFyV

An alternative view of Verbal's beloved white helmets:

http://linkis.com/21stcenturywire.com/LsFyV

FFS Goaty, you've been hanging round with Pap too long. Thats a conspiro website. You might as well have read it on Info Wars. The White Helmets were founded by a former British army officer, probably at the behest of the Foreign Office. The idea that they are all secret jihadists is just a good indicator of who's credulous.

FFS Goaty, you've been hanging round with Pap too long. Thats a conspiro website. You might as well have read it on Info Wars. The White Helmets were founded by a former British army officer, probably at the behest of the Foreign Office. The idea that they are all secret jihadists is just a good indicator of who's credulous.

To be fair, I think Pap can certainly be described as a White Helmet.

To be fair, I think Pap can certainly be described as a White Helmet.

Jeez get your own jokes.

FFS Goaty, you've been hanging round with Pap too long. Thats a conspiro website. You might as well have read it on Info Wars. The White Helmets were founded by a former British army officer, probably at the behest of the Foreign Office. The idea that they are all secret jihadists is just a good indicator of who's credulous.

As I said, an alternative view. After all the main stream media has been ever so reliable with their coverage of Syria, yes?

Jeez get your own jokes.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise I'd stolen someone else's joke...not read through this thread as can't take that much Verbal in one sitting.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise I'd stolen someone else's joke...not read through this thread as can't take that much Verbal in one sitting.

Fair point.

Jezzas relaunch today, absolutely disastrous . As one labour MP put it, "'if he had 2 brains he'd be twice as stupid" . He proposes a maximum wage and says immigration is not too high. Way to win over those floating voters Jezza

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Jezzas relaunch today, absolutely disastrous . As one labour MP put it, "'if he had 2 brains he'd be twice as stupid" . He proposes a maximum wage and says immigration is not too high. Way to win over those floating voters Jezza

I like him for the fact he says what he believes, but agree as an electoral strategy its a total gift for the Tories who are in disarray.

He's basically Donald Trump with a conscience.

A joke candidate that went too far and that never actually thought for a minute they might have to lead something.

He's basically Donald Trump with a conscience.

 

A joke candidate that went too far and that never actually thought for a minute they might have to lead something.

Not quite. Only other people saw Trump as a joke candidate, he thought he would win.

Corbyn’s name came out of the left-wing candidate tombola and he won almost by accident. He has absolutely no desire to be Prime Minister, which is fortunate because he never will be.

I don't think Trump really believed he would win. But either way, a pair of clowns.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/13/tristram-hunt-to-quit-as-mp-to-become-va-director

Asked why he was leaving Corbyn's Labour party to become a museum director, Tristram Hunt says he wants something more forward looking... #boomboom

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/13/tristram-hunt-to-quit-as-mp-to-become-va-director

 

Asked why he was leaving Corbyn's Labour party to become a museum director, Tristram Hunt says he wants something more forward looking... #boomboom

69% of people in that constituency area voted leave. UKIP were 2nd in 2015. It'll be an interesting by election.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/13/tristram-hunt-to-quit-as-mp-to-become-va-director

 

Asked why he was leaving Corbyn's Labour party to become a museum director, Tristram Hunt says he wants something more forward looking... #boomboom

**** me, if UKIP had to pick a seat to fight, that would be right at the top of their list.

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**** me, if UKIP had to pick a seat to fight, that would be right at the top of their list.

 

Won't the Tories and UKIP split the 'non labour' vote though? (much as they did in 2015)

Won't the Tories and UKIP split the 'non labour' vote though? (much as they did in 2015)

Tactical voting should work in UKIPs favour. I reckon this is set up for Nuttall. The only doubt that he may have is the seat disappears after the boundary review. May depend on whether the adjacent seats have Remain candidates in them. If they do, I reckon he'll go for it because he can then take on a Remainer in the GE , if not, he may duck the challenge . Personally I'd go with Nigel until the seat disappears, he can then have a well earned spell in the Lords

Tactical voting should work in UKIPs favour. I reckon this is set up for Nuttall. The only doubt that he may have is the seat disappears after the boundary review. May depend on whether the adjacent seats have Remain candidates in them. If they do, I reckon he'll go for it because he can then take on a Remainer in the GE , if not, he may duck the challenge . Personally I'd go with Nigel until the seat disappears, he can then have a well earned spell in the Lords

The full beauty of British politics. Enjoy.

The full beauty of British politics. Enjoy.

British Politics just doesn't work anymore does it? Bunch of ****s voted in by a bunch of ****s, trying to do their worst for a bunch of ****s.

But that's 2017 Britain.

British Politics just doesn't work anymore does it? Bunch of ****s voted in by a bunch of ****s, trying to do their worst for a bunch of ****s.

 

But that's 2017 Britain.

Yeah, I used to prefer the old days when we had a bunch of ****s voted in by a bunch of ****s, trying to do their worst for a bunch of ****s.

Great day for Steptoe today. He pays tribute to a dead policeman , who hasn't actually died . And then labour select a Remainer who called for Turkey to join the EU to fight Nuttell in the Stoke by-election .

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It's still going well then...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39064149

Delusional doesn't come close.

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58b027a4c6bb4/momentum-lol.jpg?

Andrew Neil tearing some Labour bloke a new one right now

Voted Labour every election but can't vote for them with the current idiot in charge.

Corbyn or Nuttell = the bigger clown?

Voted Labour every election but can't vote for them with the current idiot in charge.

Same.

Jesus, some woman (chakrabarti) saying that one of the factors to Labour's defeat in Copeland was that traditional Labour supporters cant afford cars and would not come out to vote with 'Storm Doris' hitting the area

Voted Labour every election but can't vote for them with the current idiot in charge.

I dont blame you but it just means that the Tories get in is that what people want.

May is continuing to ignore warnings of an unprecedented funding crisis in the NHS that is leaving no capacity to undertake the medium-term reform needed to make the health service sustainable. She has presided over cuts to social care funding that mean a quarter fewer older people are getting state support with their care needs. Schools in some areas are facing real-term cuts of up to 17% in their pupil funding in the run up to 2020, while the government is expending political capital on defending its planned expansion of grammar schools, which evidence shows will worsen, not improve, social mobility.

In prisons, a lack of sentencing reform and staff cuts have left prisons dangerously overcrowded and understaffed. The government is cutting funding for back-to-work support for the long-term unemployed, including the disabled, by a staggering three-quarters from March. Reforms to local government funding mean councils in poorer areas have had to cut back local services 10 times as much as in more affluent areas. And Philip Hammond has enthusiastically embraced the Osbornomics of his predecessor, continuing to provide tax cuts for big businesses and more affluent families, while cutting tax credit support for low-income working families and increasing business rates for many high-street small businesses. Labour’s opposition in absentia is clearing the decks for May to firmly pitch herself on Labour’s territory, by claiming the Conservatives are now the party that represents ordinary working people. She is facing little scrutiny over the fact that this rhetoric is undermined by much of what her government is doing.

Schools in some areas are facing real-term cuts of up to 17% in their pupil funding in the run up to 2020.

The consultation on the white paper game even finished yet.

But still, is it fair that a school in Coventry gets £500 more per pupil than a comparable school in Plymouth?

The conservatives are quite right to want a fair system for every child. Are you against that?

The consultation on the white paper game even finished yet.

 

But still, is it fair that a school in Coventry gets £500 more per pupil than a comparable school in Plymouth?

 

The conservatives are quite right to want a fair system for every child. Are you against that?

Of course we want a fair system for every child but that does not happen under the Tory's I will show you what I am talking about later.

Putting aside political leanings and whether you are Labour, Conservative, LD, Green or anything else, Jeremy Corbyn is a disaster for UK democracy. He has no leadership qualities, he has no interest in what people actually think it is all about his outdated version of socialism. He claims they need to do better in getting the (his) message across, Jeremy that is not the issue apart from your myopic devotees in the party the majority of the electorate do understand your message and they don't like it or want what it offers. We are living through a very sad time for our democracy where polar opposites are dominating the political dialogue and to many lily livered elected politicians are failing to stand up to the extremes. If people thought they were being ignored and left behind by politicians before, they are going to be doubly dissapointed if the leaders of the two largest parties continue down the roads they are currently on.

Putting aside political leanings and whether you are Labour, Conservative, LD, Green or anything else, Jeremy Corbyn is a disaster for UK democracy. He has no leadership qualities, he has no interest in what people actually think it is all about his outdated version of socialism. He claims they need to do better in getting the (his) message across, Jeremy that is not the issue apart from your myopic devotees in the party the majority of the electorate do understand your message and they don't like it or want what it offers. We are living through a very sad time for our democracy where polar opposites are dominating the political dialogue and to many lily livered elected politicians are failing to stand up to the extremes. If people thought they were being ignored and left behind by politicians before, they are going to be doubly dissapointed if the leaders of the two largest parties continue down the roads they are currently on.

Pretty sure you might want to revise this?

Not quite. Only other people saw Trump as a joke candidate, he thought he would win.

 

Corbyn’s name came out of the left-wing candidate tombola and he won almost by accident. He has absolutely no desire to be Prime Minister, which is fortunate because he never will be.

He seems quite keen on the idea to me.

This is like one of the old threads about Mane when people were saying he was useless. I know it's all hindsight but there's some absolute classics in here.

Most people's opinion was he's unelectable, turns out he was unelectable. Although some seem to think by losing, he proved he was a winner. It's like people saying Saints couldn't win the EFL final, & Claude saying " we proved those people who said we couldn't win wrong, by losing 3-2.

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Most people's opinion was he's unelectable, turns out he was unelectable. Although some seem to think by losing, he proved he was a winner. It's like people saying Saints couldn't win the EFL final, & Claude saying " we proved those people who said we couldn't win wrong, by losing 3-2.

 

 

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Nope, he won this round and will stand again in the next general election. May will not.

Nope, he won this round and will stand again in the next general election. May will not.

Perhaps you could explain how he won. Won what? Most votes, most seats, highest %, became PM? What's this "round " you're on about? Have we suddenly become French?

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This is what John Curtice wrote in the Guardian

There is a risk that, because the election result is being greeted through the prism of the widespread expectation that Labour would lose badly, it is forgotten that not only did Labour lose, but it did so almost as badly as in 2010, when Gordon Brown’s administration was ejected from power. Corbyn might have succeeded in persuading many voters that he was an effective party leader after all, but he has still not demonstrated that he can persuade enough to do so to be able to take his party to victory.

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Man who I said wouldn't win a general election doesn't win a general election. Oh, the egg on my face.

Man who I said wouldn't win a general election doesn't win a general election. Oh, the egg on my face.

Some people genuinely don't seem to get this. Little Owen Jones stated that everyone in the Labour Party who said he couldn't win, owes Steptoe an apology.

What form would this take? "Sorry I doubted you Jezza, I said you couldn't win..................and you didn't"

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Some people genuinely don't seem to get this. Little Owen Jones stated that everyone in the Labour Party who said he couldn't win, owes Steptoe an apology.

 

What form would this take? "Sorry I doubted you Jezza, I said you couldn't win..................and you didn't"

 

 

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I am thoroughly enjoying the Corbynites using the 2017 vote share as proof that Compo is actually more popular than 3 times landslide Tony Blair.

Weird that, because by exactly the same logic May is more popular than Mrs Thatcher so those Tories must be dancing in the streets for having such a successful and wildly popular leader.

Corbynite dins will be celebrating this pointless "victory" for a long time, in exactly the same way the skates celebrate their David Norris day "victory" over us.

To be fair he didn't do too bad considering many said he was completely unelectable.

A few more years of Tory cuts and them making a complete mess of Tory Brexit and he will stand a real chance next time.

Or a few years where the DUP are causing the history of Northern Ireland to be in the spotlight. And the under 35s understanding how heinous his links to the IRA are.

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Or a few years where the DUP are causing the history of Northern Ireland to be in the spotlight. And the under 35s understanding how heinous his links to the IRA are

Just clarify - how is Corbyn speaking to the IRA worse than Thatcher speaking and making concessions to them?