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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Too little, too pointless, too late. The whole thing feels self-defeating because if nothing else it gives the Cretin and his supporters a ready made excuse when they don't win the next election.

    First past the post makes it all utterly futile, and quite frankly I despair of it all.
    But the argument was always that he couldn't lead the Labour Party as he was too left wing, and he's unelectable to the voter. This only compounds those points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    But the argument was always that he couldn't lead the Labour Party as he was too left wing, and he's unelectable to the voter. This only compounds those points.
    It hopefully makes a hard left labour's chances of wrecking the country less likely. Frightening how close McDonell has come already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Traitorous red tory scum who have been hounded out. They will be joyous.
    I'm just wondering if the IG will attract any new votes from people of a funny tinge?

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    I’ve just watched Politics Live on catch up and one of them was on. She claims she doesn’t need to go back to her constituents because “they write to me”, so she knows their thoughts, and she also told people on the doorstep “don’t worry Corbyn won’t win”. Deeply deeply unimpressive women, not really in the Shirley Williams mould.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    I’ve just watched Politics Live on catch up and one of them was on. She claims she doesn’t need to go back to her constituents because “they write to me”, so she knows their thoughts, and she also told people on the doorstep “don’t worry Corbyn won’t win”. Deeply deeply unimpressive women, not really in the Shirley Williams mould.


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    They are a B-list bunch of nobodies really. I'm a Blairite but even I don't think much of Chukka who is utterly without charm.

    Very difficult to see anything coming of this, except it might give me someone else to vote for on the "anyone but Corbyn's Labour or the Tories" on my ballot paper next election time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    They are a B-list bunch of nobodies really. I'm a Blairite but even I don't think much of Chukka who is utterly without charm.

    Very difficult to see anything coming of this, except it might give me someone else to vote for on the "anyone but Corbyn's Labour or the Tories" on my ballot paper next election time.
    I think there is room opening up for a more centralist party. I've voted Tory most of my life, I also voted remain, I can't in good conscience vote for the current Tory party and I'd rather eat my own gonads than vote for Corbyn and his cronies. Seems to me there might quite a few others like me wondering what we are going to do with our vote in the next GE. If someone gives me a viable alternative to the two main parties they'll most likely get my vote that might be a resurgent Lib Dems or a new group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    I think there is room opening up for a more centralist party. I've voted Tory most of my life, I also voted remain, I can't in good conscience vote for the current Tory party and I'd rather eat my own gonads than vote for Corbyn and his cronies. Seems to me there might quite a few others like me wondering what we are going to do with our vote in the next GE. If someone gives me a viable alternative to the two main parties they'll most likely get my vote that might be a resurgent Lib Dems or a new group.
    I agree. The problem is I can't see this lot coming up with much at the moment that inspires me to vote for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    They are a B-list bunch of nobodies really. I'm a Blairite but even I don't think much of Chukka who is utterly without charm.
    Jenkins, Williams & Owen were probably in the top 10 recognisable politicians at the time. They’d been home sec, foreign sec, chancellor, president of the European Commission, education sec, paymaster general, health sec, between them. They were seriously big beasts. Even Rodgers had been defence sec. These chumps are no marks and they’ve managed to portray themselves as chancers. I think they’ve made a serious miscalculation and this is going to just fizzle out imo.


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    Corbyn is just trolling now.

    Just read that Degsy has had his ban lifted today and has rejoined the party . Today of all days.....







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    Gorgeous George next?




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    Here's a tweet for Jonnyboy and Bexy to rub one out to:

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/sta...005650433?s=19

    Scumbags of the world unite on planet Corbyn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Jenkins, Williams & Owen were probably in the top 10 recognisable politicians at the time. They’d been home sec, foreign sec, chancellor, president of the European Commission, education sec, paymaster general, health sec, between them. They were seriously big beasts. Even Rodgers had been defence sec. These chumps are no marks and they’ve managed to portray themselves as chancers. I think they’ve made a serious miscalculation and this is going to just fizzle out imo.


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    The seven are just trying to start a new movement so yes you are right it may well fizzle out but Corbyn is extremely unlikely to get elected and a Boris led Tory party would probably not be that popular with a large numbers of the electorate and to quite a few Tory MPs so there is a need probably for a more centre option I think there was a Poll recently which suggested that over 50% of the electorate may be interested in a Centre Political Party.

    Yes they have left Labour to start building alliances to see if there is a way forward there is no suggestion that any of the seven are going to be the leader of a new Party for the reason CBF says

    So interesting times

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Here's a tweet for Jonnyboy and Bexy to rub one out to:

    https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/sta...005650433?s=19

    Scumbags of the world unite on planet Corbyn.
    I don't know much about this guy but overspending your council budget and hating Thatcher is much worse than your Messiah's murder of hundreds of thousands.

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    Default Jeremy Corbyn and the death of Labour Party?

    I assume Chuka and co will put themselves to the mercy of a ‘people’s vote’ in their local constituencies?

    After all, people thought they were voting for a Labour MP, now it is something else

    The people obviously didn’t know what they were voting for!


    Or, seeing as Chuka and co could not reform the organisation from within, were they right to ‘leave’?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batman View Post
    Curious to what Johnnyboy and Bexy think of today’s news?
    Pretty 'Meh' to it to be honest. It's hardly surprising. Not really had much of a chance to watch/read all about it yet but I caught the headlines yesterday.

    Reading through the comments on here I've actually found myself in general agreement with most of them.

    While I have a modicum of respect for Corbyn and his policies, it's obvious he's not a leader and he has too much baggage to ever be electable. He is really no more than an activist and a decent campaigner who never expected to be catapulted to the leadership. He has never been able to unite the party during a time when pretty much anybody else would have been able to wipe the floor with the hopeless May and her pathetic excuse for a government.

    I think Labour needs to split really. There are two opposing camps within it that will never be able to reconcile their differences. But the problem, as so many have already pointed out, is that all the time we still have the FPTP system, each faction will be too scared of ever going it alone because they would undoubtedly get obliterated at a GE.

    Our entire political system is broken beyond repair, and it's high time we had a drastic modernisation of it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bexy View Post
    Pretty 'Meh' to it to be honest. It's hardly surprising. Not really had much of a chance to watch/read all about it yet but I caught the headlines yesterday.

    Reading through the comments on here I've actually found myself in general agreement with most of them.

    While I have a modicum of respect for Corbyn and his policies, it's obvious he's not a leader and he has too much baggage to ever be electable. He is really no more than an activist and a decent campaigner who never expected to be catapulted to the leadership. He has never been able to unite the party during a time when pretty much anybody else would have been able to wipe the floor with the hopeless May and her pathetic excuse for a government.

    I think Labour needs to split really. There are two opposing camps within it that will never be able to reconcile their differences. But the problem, as so many have already pointed out, is that all the time we still have the FPTP system, each faction will be too scared of ever going it alone because they would undoubtedly get obliterated at a GE.

    Our entire political system is broken beyond repair, and it's high time we had a drastic modernisation of it all.
    That's a good summation tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    The seven are just trying to start a new movement so yes you are right it may well fizzle out but Corbyn is extremely unlikely to get elected and a Boris led Tory party would probably not be that popular with a large numbers of the electorate and to quite a few Tory MPs so there is a need probably for a more centre option I think there was a Poll recently which suggested that over 50% of the electorate may be interested in a Centre Political Party.

    Yes they have left Labour to start building alliances to see if there is a way forward there is no suggestion that any of the seven are going to be the leader of a new Party for the reason CBF says

    So interesting times
    We already have a centralist political party. It is a sign of the times though that they seem to have vanished when they really should be hoovering up votes. As with everything Brexit is casting its Nosferato like shadow over it. Every party is affected by the leave/stay factions. If one good thing comes out of Brexit it may be the realisation that our political system has to change. I won’t be holding my breath though. Clegg had a glorious opportunity to try and push through reforms but f cked it, and his Party up big time instead. As for this wussy independent group, they should all face a by election and let the people who originally voted for them have their say.

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    The comparisons with the '80's are uncanny. Labour party splitting. Derek Hatton a member of the Labour party. Car plants closing. Bin strikes.

    Excellent news for us . Expect to see Saints top of the league.
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    So already the word is going around the cult that the Independent Group is Israeli backed.

    The lack of self-awareness is breathtaking.

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    Don't believe this for a second but still pretty funny. One day in. LOLZ

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...995197953?s=19


    There's a pretty big chunk of people out there I think who would give a non-Tory non-Cretin party a go.

    Probably not enough to actually win a general election but enough to completely decimate Seamus Milne and Magic Grandad's little dream.

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    and another one quits

    Joan Ryan: Labour MP resigns from party to join Independent Group, accusing Jeremy Corbyn of 'playing games with Brexit'

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

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    Quote Originally Posted by doddisalegend View Post
    and another one quits

    Joan Ryan: Labour MP resigns from party to join Independent Group, accusing Jeremy Corbyn of 'playing games with Brexit'

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp
    A few more are rumoured too, plus some tories.

    Once they grow, hopefully they'll put the focus more on their values as they relate to Britain and its politics. I'd much rather that than the current focus on "antisemitism" which is a word that has sadly become confused with having a negative view of the actions and policies of the Israeli government, rather than its actual meaning of having a negative view of Judaism and Jewish people.

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    So Corbyn wouldn't have seen the need for by elections for the Independent group in 2010. Wonder why he is changing his mind now.

    https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/sta...763688769?s=20
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    Soubry, Allen & Wollaston gone. Fingers crossed Grieve will as well.

    Brilliant news for proper Tories


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    Quote Originally Posted by egg View Post
    A few more are rumoured too, plus some tories.

    Once they grow, hopefully they'll put the focus more on their values as they relate to Britain and its politics. I'd much rather that than the current focus on "antisemitism" which is a word that has sadly become confused with having a negative view of the actions and policies of the Israeli government, rather than its actual meaning of having a negative view of Judaism and Jewish people.
    Nail on head!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Soubry, Allen & Wollaston gone. Fingers crossed Grieve will as well.

    Brilliant news for proper Tories


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    Won't that leave them with no absolute (theoretical) majority in case of another no confidence motion? Even with the DUP.

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    The IG Gammon + Chucky showing real statesmanship as they take their new seats in the commons . They’ll have more white middle class pinkos sat with them next time. Looking forward to that selfie, hope Soubry stays sober.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Window Cleaner View Post
    Won't that leave them with no absolute (theoretical) majority in case of another no confidence motion? Even with the DUP.
    They’re careerists, they won’t vote down Government as it’ll mean losing their seats at GE. They vote against Tory manifesto commitments on Brexit anyway, so won’t make a blind bit of difference to that.

    Wollaston and Allen aren’t Tories anyway, never have been. Soubry is on the pinko wing, but is within the Tory spectrum economically and socially, but Brexit has sent her bat **** crazy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    The IG Gammon + Chucky showing real statesmanship as they take their new seats in the commons . They’ll have more white middle class pinkos sat with them next time. Looking forward to that selfie, hope Soubry stays sober.

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    When did Chuka become white? I hope someone has told him.

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    Twenty nine needed to be the third largest party to get into the money and PMQs.

    At least it does make politics more interesting than just the Brexit shambles.... unless they ignore their value statements... and until of course they lose at the next GE.

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    All hotting up for February 27th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    The IG Gammon + Chucky [/IMG]
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    When did Chuka become white? I hope someone has told him.

    Yeah I did.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctoroncall View Post
    Twenty nine needed to be the third largest party to get into the money and PMQs.
    An article I read yesterday said they hadn’t applied to the electoral commission, and until they do so, are not a political party. They are in effect a grouping (ala the ERG), so aren’t entitled to any benefits a political party receives (money, etc). The article suggested they haven’t done so to protect the sources of their funding (and they didn’t mean Israel). Whether that’s true or not, who knows. But until an application is approved by the commission, they’re not a party and will get **** all.


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    A word of advice Angela - if you are going to quit your party citing racism, it's probably best not to then go and display outright racism when invited onto a national TV show to discuss it.

    https://twitter.com/evolvepolitics/s...84510676029440

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    Degsy’s been suspended already. Talk about booze up in a brewery.

    https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...party-15861929


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    Quote Originally Posted by CB Fry View Post
    Don't believe this for a second but still pretty funny. One day in. LOLZ

    https://twitter.com/britainelects/st...995197953?s=19


    There's a pretty big chunk of people out there I think who would give a non-Tory non-Cretin party a go.

    Probably not enough to actually win a general election but enough to completely decimate Seamus Milne and Magic Grandad's little dream.
    Put me down as an IG voter

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    Why don’t they be honest and just admit this is another move against BREXIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Put me down as an IG voter
    Did you hear Soubry today praising austerity and calling the coalition “great”. Surprised you’d back someone like that


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Degsy’s been suspended already. Talk about booze up in a brewery.https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news...party-15861929Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    For criticising Israel when it was having a good old Palestinian slaughter, how dare he.
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    I’ll support this lot, if only because their breakaway has at least added marginal interest to a desperately polarised political system.
    Finally the middle ground emerges, let’s hope Blair jumps on the bandwagon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    I’ll support this lot, if only because their breakaway has at least added marginal interest to a desperately polarised political system.
    Finally the middle ground emerges, let’s hope Blair jumps on the bandwagon.
    Your wish maybe granted.

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...t-group/20/02/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Your wish maybe granted.

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...t-group/20/02/


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    He’s best to stay away or remain as a donor (rumoured). He’s not like for various reason from student loans to the Iraq war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnyboy View Post
    I don't know much about this guy but overspending your council budget and hating Thatcher is much worse than your Messiah's murder of hundreds of thousands.
    Would not worry, he has been suspended again (already) so reports suggest.

    Weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    Did you hear Soubry today praising austerity and calling the coalition “great”. Surprised you’d back someone like that


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    I liked the other one who said they had opportunity to fix and have made things worse. I’m easily pleased

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    Good to see Soubry triggering and running rings around coffin-dodgers like LD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plastic View Post
    I’ll support this lot, if only because their breakaway has at least added marginal interest to a desperately polarised political system.
    Finally the middle ground emerges, let’s hope Blair jumps on the bandwagon.
    I might support them just because of Heidi Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    I might support them just because of Heidi Allen.
    Yeah, she reminds me of Will's Mum from The Inbetweeners. Little bit old for me, but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    Yeah, she reminds me of Will's Mum from The Inbetweeners. Little bit old for me, but still...
    Sounds like we are reaching a bit of a political consensus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypochondriac View Post
    Sounds like we are reaching a bit of a political consensus...
    Amazing that two grown men can put aside their differences to agree they'd boff the same woman...

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    She can’t compete with these fit proper Tories. Such a diverse bunch


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