Jordy Clasie - Joins AZ (Official)

I really wanted Clasie to succeed and had high hopes. A year of regular football will do him the world of good and then we can assess his progress.

we wont be assessing his progress. He is going on loan as we could not sort a sale out.

we wont be assessing his progress. He is going on loan as we could not sort a sale out.

You know that for a fact do you?

we wont be assessing his progress. He is going on loan as we could not sort a sale out.

Yet another laughable statement of fact from our resident superhero, based on nothing but his own opinion.

Yet another laughable statement of fact from our resident superhero, based on nothing but his own opinion.

do you think he will play for saints again?

yes or no?

do you think he will play for saints again?

yes or no?

I think, that will be something that only the club know. Your view is pure speculation. Rephrase the question! do I want him to play for Saints again? that depends on how he gets on with his loan.

I think, that will be something that only the club know. Your view is pure speculation. Rephrase the question! do I want him to play for Saints again? that depends on how he gets on with his loan.

what do you think

yes or no?

I obviously do not as clubs like saints do not let players who should be playing most weeks, who are genuine internationals go out on loan to 'see how they get on'

IMO, he will never play for saints again (or at best, not have a future here)

what do you think

yes or no?

You really are a bore. How can I know the answer, I am not privy to the thinking behind his loan. So to give a yes or no answer, would place me in the same land of fantasy fact, that you and others on here, seem to live in.

You really are a bore. How can I know the answer, I am not privy to the thinking behind his loan. So to give a yes or no answer, would place me in the same land of fantasy fact, that you and others on here, seem to live in.

yes or no. It is just an opinion. Just like the rest of this place otherwise, might as well shut the forum down as most things that are discussed "will be something that only the club know"

go on, just say yes or no. if you are wrong, no one will care

yes or no. It is just an opinion. Just like the rest of this place otherwise, might as well shut the forum down as most things that are discussed "will be something that only the club know"

 

go on, just say yes or no. if you are wrong, no one will care

Well, they sure as hell care about the tripe you continually post on here, judging by all the negative feedback you get. Go play with someone else, try Egg, he's at your level!

Well, they sure as hell care about the tripe you continually post on here, judging by all the negative feedback you get. Go play with someone else, try Egg, he's at your level!

yes or no?

easily to have a pop at others giving an opinion on a message board without giving one yourself

Over the years certain signings leave you wondering 'why' (did we sign him).

For me, Clasie fell into this bracket. Nothing against the lad, but why ?

yes or no?

easily to have a pop at others giving an opinion on a message board without giving one yourself

I'm not a huge fan of the Dark Knight but I think he's probably right in this case.

Over the years certain signings leave you wondering 'why' (did we sign him).

For me, Clasie fell into this bracket. Nothing against the lad, but why ?

Why? Lots of people were clamouring to sign him in 2014 and were delighted when we got him in 2015 after Morgan left. Remember in 2014 he had played in a World Cup side that finished third. With hindsight people are quick to draw parallels with the signings of Elia and Martina as Koeman idiosyncratic pet signings but they are spurious. Just go back and check his announcement thread at the time.

I'll take your word about the clamour to sign him but all I can say I wasn't one of them. I recall being ambivalent at best, as I am today.

Good luck to him at Brugge

Over the years certain signings leave you wondering 'why' (did we sign him).

For me, Clasie fell into this bracket. Nothing against the lad, but why ?

Agreed and I also said so at the time. He was never a Schneiderlin replacement and just a Koeman getting his way type of signing.

The thing about Clasie, Hoj and JWP (even Steven Davis when played as a deep midfielder) is once you see Lemina play you realise just how ****ing average they are. Last season we had Romeu having to carry the central midfield almost single handed. This season if we can keep them fit Romeu and Lemina are going to be a really good central midfield pair.

Lemina proves that quality players do not require a whole season plus preseason to settle in and perform .

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Lemina proves that quality players do not require a whole season plus preseason to settle in and perform .

Lemina proves that he doesn't require a whole season plus preseason to settle in and perform. Some never manage it, some get there in time. People are different.

The fact that i'd actually forgotten about him as an SFC player until this thread was bumped says it all for me. Feel for the bloke a bit. Not in a financial sense of course.

I think that Klassen at Everton is finding out how different this league is too

That he is struggling so badly at Brugge now, has something changed in him? Did the lifestyle in England just not suit him along with the footballing style?

I feel sorry for the guy. He always seemed to be a 100% guy but as has been said earlier you get found out in this league pretty quickly if you are short of the required skill

Lemina proves that quality players do not require a whole season plus preseason to settle in and perform .

 

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You mean like Henry, Drogba, and Ronaldo?

 

No, like Boufal, Gaston & Classie.

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No, like Boufal, Gaston & Classie.

 

 

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Anyone can name a litany of players who never 'made it' it the premier league, for whatever reason. Maybe they just weren't suited for it. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe they were never good enough.

But the fact that one player came in from overseas and settled immediately (and we'll put aside the fact that it's far too early to write Lemina up as an unqualified success) in no way proves that any player of any quality shouldn't need any period of adjustment.

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Which doesn't make any logical sense at all.

 

Anyone can name a litany of players who never 'made it' it the premier league, for whatever reason. Maybe they just weren't suited for it. Maybe they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe they were never good enough.

 

But the fact that one player came in from overseas and settled immediately (and we'll put aside the fact that it's far too early to write Lemina up as an unqualified success) in no way proves that any player of any quality shouldn't need any period of adjustment.

 

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My post was aimed at the posters who keep making excuses for Boufal, just like they did for Gaston.

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He was thought to be a good buy on here from what I remember , perhaps he had already peaked before Saints . Maybe he needed certain players around him or maybe a loss of confidence after not being in the team for so long .....

So how's he getting on these days?

So how's he getting on these days?

Spending time on the bench.

So how's he getting on these days?

Well from what I can work out he has managed 32 minutes this season...

http://www.flashscore.com/player/clasie-jordy/jXmcHMfr/

So how's he getting on these days?

Hardly played due to knee injury.

Clasie was willing to take a pay cut to go back to Feyenoord on loan this summer but they weren’t interested:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4920556/jordy-clasie-southampton-feyenoord-transfer-news/

I still feel that he never got a proper crack here. I would have liked to see him have a run of games to see what he was truly capable of, rather like we have given boufal this season.

Has anyone followed his progress in Brugge?

Be interested to know how he got on.

Doubtful he'll get in the team, though.

Has anyone followed his progress in Brugge?

 

Be interested to know how he got on.

 

Doubtful he'll get in the team, though.

1,227 minutes | 25 appearances (12 starts, 13 sub) | goals 1 | assists 2

was hoping he would have had more of an impact.

Seems to be a first team choice though regularly coming off around the hour

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jordy-clasie/leistungsdaten/spieler/104223

He'd prob be more suited to La Liga

Well to lightweight....

For some reason, I have a sneaky feeling he might get a look in under Hughes.

For some reason, I have a sneaky feeling he might get a look in under Hughes.

But currently still 4th choice behind Hojbjerg / Romeu / Lemina.

Maybe even 5th choice if Hughes considers Davis a centre-mid.

I want to see him given a chance as the more advanced player of the 3.

There’s a player in there somewhere, trouble is he’s not physical or fit enough to play in a 2.

Big pre season for him either way

But currently still 4th choice behind Hojbjerg / Romeu / Lemina.

 

Maybe even 5th choice if Hughes considers Davis a centre-mid.

I think Davis' race is run.

Seems to be a first team choice though regularly coming off around the hour

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/jordy-clasie/leistungsdaten/spieler/104223

Not according to that link you've posted. He's only started in 9 league games this season.

I think Davis' race is run.

Wouldn't be surprised if Davis rocked up at rangers to join the Stevie G revolution.

Not according to that link you've posted. He's only started in 9 league games this season.

And 8 of them were in the last nine games, so seems like he won his place, unless someone got injured, which is possible

Wouldn't be surprised if Davis rocked up at rangers to join the Stevie G revolution.

There would be a problem with wages unless Saints subsidise for a year or Davis agrees to a massive paycut. Rangers couldn't get remotely close to our pay structure.