Bad Wolf Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 Southampton...Thomas Vermaelen is 'reportedly' heading towards the south coast team...Mirror IMO would be a good signing if he has got over his injury problem even though it will only be for 1 year. And, if he is not a replacement for VvD. He was actually linked with a loan deal to us in our Championship season as he wasn't in favour at Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 As someone has already said Redmond and Tadic are considered wingers not midfielders.. Redmond in particular was described by our manager as the new Thiery!! We could argue this out for eons, it doesn't change the fact our midfield did not contribute enough goals..end of. It's not phisical enough, lacks pace and hieght, quile and definately lacks goals. That needs sorting So by midfielders you only mean central midfielders? Wingers are still midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 Southampton...Thomas Vermaelen is 'reportedly' heading towards the south coast team...Mirror IMO would be a good signing if he has got over his injury problem even though it will only be for 1 year. And, if he is not a replacement for VvD. Where did you see this Patred? Got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4699080/Southampton-eyeing-bargain-Zou-Feddal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 Certainly looks like him Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk Seems to have VVds protective boot on too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 here is the link that mentions Thomas Vermaelen coming here https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/these-underrated-southampton-players-could-play-a-huge-part-next-season/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 July, 2017 Share Posted 15 July, 2017 here is the link that mentions Thomas Vermaelen coming here https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premiership/these-underrated-southampton-players-could-play-a-huge-part-next-season/ If you follow the links from that to the original source of the rumour, it links back to a story from circa 29th June that we discussed at the time. I think it is unlikely to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 In terms of believable, substantiated incoming rumours this must be one of the quietest summers we've had since returning to the Premier League. I mean there's the odd mention of something here and there but nothing widely reported. Shows to me that the club are doing a great job keeping everything close the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 In terms of believable, substantiated incoming rumours this must be one of the quietest summers we've had since returning to the Premier League. I mean there's the odd mention of something here and there but nothing widely reported. Shows to me that the club are doing a great job keeping everything close the chest. Or we aren't really signing anyone this summer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Or we aren't really signing anyone this summer.... JRod has been sold and the Polish CB signed but I really, really doubt that we'll sign much else in the way of quality players unless we sell the same. Doubt if we have the money to do it actually. For the moment we're probably about even Steven in the ledger, about 12 million in for JRod and the same out from having paid off Puel and buying Bednarek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 BREAKING NEWS Loic Remy will leave Chelsea this summer with Marseille, Southampton and Everton interested in signing the French forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 BREAKING NEWS Loic Remy will leave Chelsea this summer with Marseille, Southampton and Everton interested in signing the French forward. what no West Ham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Couldn't get in the Palace team last year, could he? Can't see it, unless Long or Austin is moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 BREAKING NEWS Loic Remy will leave Chelsea this summer with Marseille, Southampton and Everton interested in signing the French forward. Good choice for 5th striker as he will be injured most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Injury prone, over 30... Remy doesn't seem to be the 'Southampton way' I suggest we update the 'black box' Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Injury prone, over 30... Remy doesn't seem to be the 'Southampton way' I suggest we update the 'black box' Les All we've heard from Les this summer is about adding "value" & "power" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Injury prone, over 30... Remy doesn't seem to be the 'Southampton way' I suggest we update the 'black box' Les Or we're just not interested and are being linked by his agent to drum up interest? If it doesn't seem like a Saints kind of signing, 9/10 we're not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 BREAKING NEWS Loic Remy will leave Chelsea this summer with Marseille, Southampton and Everton interested in signing the French forward. lazy mad up links.....all 3 have just sold a striker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 No chance, just agent talk. We weren't interested other times he was available, he's done nothing since, had loads of injuries and on big wages. He got his move to Chelsea for doing for QPR what Austin did. He wouldn't be better than Austin or Gabbiadini now so why bother? Sort of signing for West Ham or Stoke, with a few on here banging on about how we should definitely have gone for him. Yeah, it's one of those "SSN / SkyBet" ploys to get some ££'s in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 There's mention in the Observer (16/07) that Saints and Huddersfield are both after Austria midfielder, Zlatko Junuzovic of Werner Bremen. Obviously may just be paper talk but if we signed a midfield player, I'd have thought someone would be going to create the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Those were the days when the Black Box actually seemed to work....... You mean the MoPo/Cortese "box"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 July, 2017 Share Posted 16 July, 2017 Those were the days when the Black Box actually seemed to work....... You mean the MoPo/Cortese "box"... Don't forget that the Cortese Black Box also brought us, Gaston,Gazzaniga, Mayuka and Forren. Then the MoPo- Cortese version also landed Osvaldo. That said, inclined to agree that the recruitment hasn't been that impressive in the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Every Premier League club has a 'black box'. We're not anything special in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 http://www.football-espana.net/65183/southampton-want-alaves-feddal I like the sound of this one "Feddal is also known to be capable of playing left-back and as a holding midfielder." buy one get 2 free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 http://www.football-espana.net/65183/southampton-want-alaves-feddal I like the sound of this one "Feddal is also known to be capable of playing left-back and as a holding midfielder." buy one get 2 free Knows Pellegrino from Alaves. Compatriot to Boufal so may help him settle better. Cheap... May be worth it. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 cheap and cheerfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 #WeMarchOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Knows Pellegrino from Alaves. Compatriot to Boufal so may help him settle better. Cheap... May be worth it. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Boufal is French, this bloke is Morrocan. WP problems I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Boufal is French, this bloke is Morrocan. WP problems I'd think. He is a Spanish citizen so no WP issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Boufal is French, this bloke is Morrocan. WP problems I'd think. Have a quick read... https://southamptonfc.com/news/2017-03-14/sofiane-boufal-morocco-squad-march-2017-internationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Have a quick read... https://southamptonfc.com/news/2017-03-14/sofiane-boufal-morocco-squad-march-2017-internationals Not the same thing, Boufal is a frenchman from Paris who plays for Morocco because that's his parent's nationality and he isn't good enough to play for France. The bloke from Alaves is a Morrocan, from Morocco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Not the same thing, Boufal is a frenchman from Paris who plays for Morocco because that's his parent's nationality and he isn't good enough to play for France. The bloke from Alaves is a Morrocan, from Morocco. Clutching at straws there a little bit. Obviously Boufal has the Moroccan nationality himself as well, not just his parents. Whether he's born in Paris or not doesn't change the fact that he's (also) Moroccan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 The bloke from Alaves is a Morrocan, from Morocco. And a Spanish citizen as I posted earlier, so where he was born is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 People realise the black box just means data analysis right? You track a load of players, have files on them all. Not sure why some find it odd when we get a manager and he gets players from leagues or teams he knows. Still good to have additional info on everyone and our scouting system has done pretty well overall. My point, was that the "box" seems to sign a lot of players know to the manager. And the better managers have signed better players. Chicken or the egg? Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 My point, was that the "box" seems to sign a lot of players know to the manager. And the better managers have signed better players. Chicken or the egg? Coincidence? its all part of an illusion. It is not what the box spews out it is the ability of the people looking at the info that makes the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 (edited) I imagine it's something like this: Manager: "I really like this player. And that one. And that one too." Black box: "This one fits well into our preferred systems and player profile. That one doesn't as much, but if you really want him..." Manager: "Alright!" Edited 17 July, 2017 by Pass the Dutchie typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Exactly trousers! Amazing how many fans still don't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Exactly trousers! Amazing how many fans still don't understand that. No, it's not like that at all. More like this... Manager: We are weak at a, b & c and need players that can do x, y & z. Les: What he said. Black Box: ***Processing, Processing*** Here you go (presents shortlist). Les: Arrange this lot in your order of preference. Manager: Done. Les: ***Negotiates stuff agents and other clubs*** Players signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Jacob Murphy to Newcastle. A number of players we have been linked with have gone elsewhere. Might not have been interested in them all but strange to not have anything apart from Bednarek with not that long to go until the season starts. Esecially with a couple of glaring weaknesses in the squad. Surely we will sign at least one starting XI player?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Jacob Murphy to Newcastle. A number of players we have been linked with have gone elsewhere. Might not have been interested in them all but strange to not have anything apart from Bednarek with not that long to go until the season starts. Esecially with a couple of glaring weaknesses in the squad. Surely we will sign at least one starting XI player?! What are the glaring weaknesses then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 What are the glaring weaknesses then ? Depends what formation we play, but assuming 4-2-3-1 then I would say CB, DM & AM (No10) which is really the spine of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Depends what formation we play, but assuming 4-2-3-1 then I would say CB, DM & AM (No10) which is really the spine of the team. oh my, however did we finish 8th last season then if we are missing 3 quality players. We could spend 60 or 70 million on the positions you say, we probably wouldn't finish any higher in the league though. We are what we are and only really serious money will change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 oh my, however did we finish 8th last season then if we are missing 3 quality players. We could spend 60 or 70 million on the positions you say, we probably wouldn't finish any higher in the league though. We are what we are and only really serious money will change that. You on your period today or are just anti saints supporter every post is negative go and clean some windows if that's what you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Depends what formation we play, but assuming 4-2-3-1 then I would say CB, DM & AM (No10) which is really the spine of the team. You saying five centre backs aren't enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 You saying five centre backs aren't enough? It's enough in number but IMO we need someone of better quality to partner Virgil if he stays (Wimmer or Sakho). My worry about this window is that we are working on the basis that we won't sell anyone and therefore don't need to buy anyone. If we were forced into selling one or both of Virgil or Bertrand in the last week of the window because of a mega bid etc then we'd have left ourselves in a bit of a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 We've mysteriously disappeared from the interested clubs after Remy on SSN. It's now just: Everton / Marseille / Lille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 We've mysteriously disappeared from the interested clubs after Remy on SSN. It's now just: Everton / Marseille / Lille good hes dog sh yte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBitterne Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 Previously a sceptic on him ,I believe ward prowse to have improved in what was a very average side last year.hopefully this year he can push on. In regards to murphy do we need 2 redmonds?(potential lazy comparisson from the brief amount ive seen of him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 July, 2017 Share Posted 17 July, 2017 You on your period today or are just anti saints supporter every post is negative go and clean some windows if that's what you are Just because he is right it does not make him negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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