Saints Transfers Thread - Deadline Day

Stephens is way over rated by some on here.

He's a promising player who may become really good given game time. The question is when and where. I don't think playing in the first team should be a training exercise. Play him when we can, but if we can get someone better, please do. This goes for every position, of course. Always play the best you can get, until you feel confident we're getting the result we need.

christ is Ziyech the only player people know?

Although he may have an issue crosses

Stephens is way over rated by some on here.

He's massively improving.

If Stuart Armstrong is a goer I'm guessing we might see some movement sharpish with Celtic virtually through their qualifier.

 

 

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I think he's agreed to stay with Celtic at least I'm sure it was posted on here earlier

Isn't he just. The club historian called him Beckenbaueresque. That's way way OTT.

Agboolaesque. With huge potential to improve. Will be out captain for sure and England player within a year.

Funny remember watching a game with chambers in, think it may have been early arsenal when he played cb and mate and I said to each other future england captain and star

just a hypothetical question? but would anyone, entertained the idea of letting vvd go, to allow the purchase of gylfi sigurdsson,??

I like 3 at the back, because you can get 2 up top with no loss of midfield control.

We could play a 3-4-1-2, provided the 10 was capable of getting back in and making it a 3-5-2 when they have the ball. That way we could play both Austin & Gabbi However, with the players we have, Id imagine if we play 3 at the back it'll be a 3-4-3 with only one of Austin or Gabbi (unless one plays in a wide role), with Redmond & Tadic wide.

Still think we're bluffing & signing another CB will mean bye bye VvD, or at a push Yoshida. Just don't see Stephens & Yoshida as 3rd & 4th and the Polish guy as 5.

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just a hypothetical question? but would anyone, entertained the idea of letting vvd go, to allow the purchase of gylfi sigurdsson,??

Hmm - not sure, I reckon it might be prohibitively expensive to buy him from Everton the day after he's signed for them at a cost of £45m...

Couple of updates from an Italian journalist this morning

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/en

Regarding Luciano Vietto, Sampdoria have supposedly agreed a fee with Athletico Madrid at €20m, however they are struggling to agree terms with the player. He's quoting a current salary of €2.4m and Sampdoria are only offering €1.6m plus bonuses. Other options for Sampdoria that they are considering are Inglese from Chievo Verona and Luan from Gremio. The translation isn't great but I read into it that Luan has declined a move to Spartak Moscow and Sampdoria have made an initial bid for him somewhere in the region of €16m to €18m.

The other update is regarding Yann Karamoh (remember him from the start of the transfer window). The young French winger, currently at Caen, was supposed to be joining Inter Milan. However Caen are holding out for a transfer fee of €10m, which Inter have not yet met.

Talked to an old friend from Italy yesterday who happens to be a Lazio supporter. I asked about Hoedt, and he was in general positive. Fantastic left foot, great physic, and pretty fast for a tall guy. His positional play, understanding of the game and some times lack of concentration is his biggest weaknesses (which is pretty serious for a defender). 17 million euro for a player who's they got for free, not a regular starter is "fantastic money" and he's sure that Lazio wants the deal to go through. So all in all, good player but some good coaching needed.

He asked me in return who this Van dijk guy is, he can't be any better than de vrij

Hoedt is as good as done. Expect 1 or 2 more.

Hoedt is as good as done. Expect 1 or 2 more.

1st post.

But thanks for the info..!

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/898335495?-11205:798:0

Seems to be some traction behind this rumour..

"Wesley Hoedt has reportedly said goodbye to his Lazio teammates, as he prepares to join Southampton.

It was reported yesterday that the Saints had made a €17m bid for the Dutch centre-back, with the Biancocelesti having agreed with the player’s agent that they’d sell him for that price.

This morning, Tuttomercatoweb reports, Hoedt said goodbye to his teammates at Formello, and he’ll fly to England imminently."

Awesome

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Great news if true! Can't say I know a lot about Hoedt, but from what has been reported, sounds like a good fit for Saints - Promising young player with some top level experience at a big club, who can be improved.

Calling Ulrich to this thread

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Being able to play 3 at the back when required would really get the best out of Cedric and Ryan.

I guess something like this would be pretty interesting.

Forster

Cedric Hoedt VVD Yoshida Bertrand

Romeu Lemina

Boufal Tadic

Gabby

Hoedt is as good as done. Expect 1 or 2 more.

Thanks Nelly

So, a few questions...

* If Hoedt signs will that be our last signing or will there be others? Some people have mentioned Vietto but from what others are saying that seems unlikely.

* If Hoedt signs and assuming VvD stays, who from our current squad will miss out on a place in the 25? Will Gardos be the one to miss out? Or will this lead to the sale of Gazzaniga?

* If we do sign another attacking player who else will miss out? Might that signal that we are going to sell Shane Long as some have suggested? Or again might this signal that both Gazzaniga and Gardos will be superfluous?

So, a few questions...

 

* If Hoedt signs will that be our last signing or will there be others? Some people have mentioned Vietto but from what others are saying that seems unlikely.

* If Hoedt signs and assuming VvD stays, who from our current squad will miss out on a place in the 25? Will Gardos be the one to miss out? Or will this lead to the sale of Gazzaniga?

* If we do sign another attacking player who else will miss out? Might that signal that we are going to sell Shane Long as some have suggested? Or again might this signal that both Gazzaniga and Gardos will be superfluous?

Redslo answers many of your questions in his excellent blog post

http://redsloscf.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/how-are-things-going-southampton-2017.html

So, a few questions...

 

* If Hoedt signs will that be our last signing or will there be others? Some people have mentioned Vietto but from what others are saying that seems unlikely.

* If Hoedt signs and assuming VvD stays, who from our current squad will miss out on a place in the 25? Will Gardos be the one to miss out? Or will this lead to the sale of Gazzaniga?

* If we do sign another attacking player who else will miss out? Might that signal that we are going to sell Shane Long as some have suggested? Or again might this signal that both Gazzaniga and Gardos will be superfluous?

One more, attacking player I reckon.

Gardos looks most likely to miss out.

Long most likely to go. Gazza too but apparently we were after a loan keeper as well.

So, a few questions...

 

* If Hoedt signs will that be our last signing or will there be others? Some people have mentioned Vietto but from what others are saying that seems unlikely.

* If Hoedt signs and assuming VvD stays, who from our current squad will miss out on a place in the 25? Will Gardos be the one to miss out? Or will this lead to the sale of Gazzaniga?

* If we do sign another attacking player who else will miss out? Might that signal that we are going to sell Shane Long as some have suggested? Or again might this signal that both Gazzaniga and Gardos will be superfluous?

My prediction is that we will get Hoedt and another forward who can play wide or as a striker when needed.

Then Gazzaniga, Gardos (loan), Clasie and Long will all leave.

One more, attacking player I reckon.

Gardos looks most likely to miss out.

Long most likely to go. Gazza too but apparently we were after a loan keeper as well.

We signed Jack Rose the other day so that leaves us with Forster, McCarthy, Taylor and him if Gazzaniga goes.

Definitely won't be signing another keeper now.

We signed Jack Rose the other day so that leaves us with Forster, McCarthy, Taylor and him if Gazzaniga goes.

 

Definitely won't be signing another keeper now.

Great shame.

Great shame.

My guess is McCarthy will get his chance soon.

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Hoedt a replacement for Yoshida? 1 year left on contract so the club will be looking for him to pen a new deal or move on. I'd guess Yoshida is waiting to see whether he'll be 1st choice or bench this year before deciding.

Maybe Hoedt announced before West Ham game!!!

I reckon

this Hoedt fella plus 1 more attacking player

I reckon Gardos may well be shipped out (if VvD stays)

with Long probably

Hoedt a replacement for Yoshida? 1 year left on contract so the club will be looking for him to pen a new deal or move on. I'd guess Yoshida is waiting to see whether he'll be 1st choice or bench this year before deciding.

I've wondered about this. Maybe Yoshida has indicated a desire to move on - perhaps closer to "home". It would make his contract situation and the long-term view on Bednarek more understandable.

Hoedt a replacement for Yoshida? 1 year left on contract so the club will be looking for him to pen a new deal or move on. I'd guess Yoshida is waiting to see whether he'll be 1st choice or bench this year before deciding.

Assuming he has been offered a new contract, which he absolutely should've happened by now (given that he can be poached in 6 months by a foreign team), I suspect that is probably the case. He's always seemed pretty comfortable being 3rd choice though, but I guess most players grow tired of it eventually (Stuart Taylor aside!).

Edit: You only have to look at Jonny Evans rejected £18m bid to realise it's a must (not that I'm saying Maya is better/par with Jonny Evans, but they're both probably starting CBs for lower(ish) Prem clubs)

Yoshida was with his Agent at St Mary's on Saturday.

Can confirm. Saw Maya around 3pm.

Southampton are in advanced talks to sign Lazio defender Wesley Hoedt, according to Sky sources.

Sky in Italy have reported that the club have made a £15.5million offer for the centre-back but the deal is not yet agreed.

Yoshida was with his Agent at St Mary's on Saturday.

He was at the Winchester sports stadium Tuesday afternoon with a selection of oriental gentlemen and a camera... using red top logic I guess he is about to announce his dream move to Winchester city FC

Redslo answers many of your questions in his excellent blog post

 

http://redsloscf.blogspot.co.uk/2017/08/how-are-things-going-southampton-2017.html

One which I thoroughly recommend as I know it answered a lot of questions for me.

Hoedt transfer seems all but done

https://talksport.com/football/transfer-news-southampton-close-ps1325million-deal-lazio-defender-wesley-hoedt-170817250823

Hoedt transfer seems all but done

 

https://talksport.com/football/transfer-news-southampton-close-ps1325million-deal-lazio-defender-wesley-hoedt-170817250823

I really like the way we do our business - quietly and going for young players that are not the finished article but could be gems with good coaching (and very high resale value). They don't all work out but compared to the stupid money being thrown around the players we pick up are bargain prices (comparatively speaking).

When you look at some of the crazy money being thrown around our model is so much better.........

Yoshida was with his Agent at St Mary's on Saturday.

Can confirm. Saw Maya around 3pm.

Jack Stephens is his agent?

Armstrong has signed a new 2 year deal at Celtic

Armstrong has signed a new 2 year deal at Celtic

Only 2 years? I'm assuming that takes him to 3 overall?

Armstrong has signed a new 2 year deal at Celtic

So they'll probably sell him next summer then.

Assuming it is not a two year extension on his current contract.

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/liverpool-fans-excited-by-rumours-that-bundesliga-defender-is-heading-to-england-138417

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Good ol' arry at it again. Has he never heard of coaching players?

"I need to change a lot of them because they are not good enough for Birmingham City. This is a fantastic football club and if it's the last thing I do in football I will give their fans a good team."

Good ol' arry at it again. Has he never heard of coaching players?

 

"I need to change a lot of them because they are not good enough for Birmingham City. This is a fantastic football club and if it's the last thing I do in football I will give their fans a good team."

Doesnt he ever get tired of re-cycling the same old lines ?

Absolute cock just like his bloody son.

Good ol' arry at it again. Has he never heard of coaching players?

 

"I need to change a lot of them because they are not good enough for Birmingham City. This is a fantastic football club and if it's the last thing I do in football I will give their fans a good team."

Wonder if his knee will start playing up when the weather gets a little colder, say, November/December and he'll need to go and get that operation re-booked. After all, last time (at QPR) he couldn't walk and taking training was nigh on impossible.

No tears shed here if it's the last thing he does.

Yeah the squad is so bad that's why Zola struggled, but I kinda remember with Rowett they were on verge of play offs

Good ol' arry at it again. Has he never heard of coaching players?

 

"I need to change a lot of them because they are not good enough for Birmingham City. This is a fantastic football club and if it's the last thing I do in football I will give their fans a good team."

Look no further than Warnock at Cardiff. Why do the reporters not pick him up on his nonsense?