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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Nice

    How thick is it? I like chronometers but they must be thin with a clean dial.
    It's not that thick tbh and it goes against what i'd say is a traditional Breitling these days by having a normal sized face rather than a massive one. It's a really nice watch and the Montbrilliant Navitimer seems to hold it's value a bit better than the normal Navitimer. Saying that the 01 model will keep it's value better.

    Have a look at this model, it's not too flashy at all, is smaller than usual Breitling Chronometers and the face is stunning imo.

    It's a hell of a lot less flashy that the massive Chronomat i've got!

    If you are genuinely interested in buying a chronograph watch and you want one thats not too beefy and flashy then i'd recommend the Montbrilliant Navitimer. I'll post a picture of it on my wrist next week if you like so you can get some perspective on it's size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shance View Post
    It's not that thick tbh and it goes against what i'd say is a traditional Breitling these days by having a normal sized face rather than a massive one. It's a really nice watch and the Montbrilliant Navitimer seems to hold it's value a bit better than the normal Navitimer. Saying that the 01 model will keep it's value better.

    Have a look at this model, it's not too flashy at all, is smaller than usual Breitling Chronometers and the face is stunning imo.

    It's a hell of a lot less flashy that the massive Chronomat i've got!

    If you are genuinely interested in buying a chronograph watch and you want one thats not too beefy and flashy then i'd recommend the Montbrilliant Navitimer. I'll post a picture of it on my wrist next week if you like so you can get some perspective on it's size.
    Thanks

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    In a cruel twist of fate, I've had to send the watch back for a full refund. So I'm currently in the market for a large faced Breitling Navitimer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shance View Post
    In a cruel twist of fate, I've had to send the watch back for a full refund. So I'm currently in the market for a large faced Breitling Navitimer.
    Got mine from an American chap called Bob in the jewellers in the new shopping area in Newbury- the one with the 01 movement. Nice chap - touch of the Simpson's Gill about him but he's knowledgable enough (about Jeremy France in WInchester's divorce anyway - ha ha ;-))

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    Quote Originally Posted by so22saint View Post
    Got mine from an American chap called Bob in the jewellers in the new shopping area in Newbury- the one with the 01 movement. Nice chap - touch of the Simpson's Gill about him but he's knowledgable enough (about Jeremy France in WInchester's divorce anyway - ha ha ;-))
    Poor old Jeremy's got divorced???

    I wonder who got to keep the jewellery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by so22saint View Post
    Got mine from an American chap called Bob in the jewellers in the new shopping area in Newbury- the one with the 01 movement. Nice chap - touch of the Simpson's Gill about him but he's knowledgable enough (about Jeremy France in WInchester's divorce anyway - ha ha ;-))
    Nice mate. I've found one I like. Navitimer World (46mm face so whitey won't like it. it's big )

    Hopefully pick it up this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shance View Post
    Nice mate. I've found one I like. Navitimer World (46mm face so whitey won't like it. it's big )

    Hopefully pick it up this week.
    At least I might be able to read the dial.

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    Why can't I post pictures from my phone on this part of the forum?

    I've ended up with a Navitimer 01. ****ing beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    Some fakes are now so good that some use proper movements.
    Begs the question; if a fake is THAT good, does it matter that it is fake (and you've saved money)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Begs the question; if a fake is THAT good, does it matter that it is fake (and you've saved money)?
    Depends if you just buy stuff to show off? Never got why someone would want a fake anything unless to be pretentious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Begs the question; if a fake is THAT good, does it matter that it is fake (and you've saved money)?
    Yes it does. It means you value the brand but choose to rip it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Depends if you just buy stuff to show off? Never got why someone would want a fake anything unless to be pretentious.
    doesnt somebody buy the genuine one to show off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Depends if you just buy stuff to show off? Never got why someone would want a fake anything unless to be pretentious.
    as the fakes are so good it just shows that the branded product is overpriced big time

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    as the fakes are so good it just shows that the branded product is overpriced big time
    Feel free not to buy the real thing if you don't value it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    Feel free not to buy the real thing if you don't value it.
    I dont buy the fake or the real thing for my own use. I buy the real ones to trade on in my day to day life, although Iam very careful about the source as I said very early in this thread that the fakes are very difficult to tell nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    doesnt somebody buy the genuine one to show off?
    Maybe but if you bought a Ferrari it might not be to solely to show off.

    If it was fake and had a clapped out old engine underneath clearly you would be wanting people to see you pretendI got to have enough income to afford a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Maybe but if you bought a Ferrari it might not be to solely to show off.

    If it was fake and had a clapped out old engine underneath clearly you would be wanting people to see you pretendI got to have enough income to afford a Ferrari.
    But a Ferrari performs in a way that a lot of other cars can't.

    Most of these watches do nothing, in terms of output, that a 10 Casio can't do.

    So you're paying for craftsmanship for its own sake, or for investment purposes, or to show off.

    I would imagine the third category is most common. That's not a value judgment, just my expectation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    But a Ferrari performs in a way that a lot of other cars can't.

    Most of these watches do nothing, in terms of output, that a 10 Casio can't do.

    So you're paying for craftsmanship for its own sake, or for investment purposes, or to show off.

    I would imagine the third category is most common. That's not a value judgment, just my expectation.
    Or potentially all 3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    Or potentially all 3?
    Yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjii View Post
    But a Ferrari performs in a way that a lot of other cars can't.

    Most of these watches do nothing, in terms of output, that a 10 Casio can't do.

    So you're paying for craftsmanship for its own sake, or for investment purposes, or to show off.

    I would imagine the third category is most common. That's not a value judgment, just my expectation.
    Ok some large woman with saggy tits wearing an ill fitting fake Armani sweatshirt bought on Shirley High St. Dunno what point I'm making but is funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Ok some large woman with saggy tits wearing an ill fitting fake Armani sweatshirt bought on Shirley High St. Dunno what point I'm making but is funny
    Slagging off my Mrs. I'll 'ave ya!

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    The fakes can be half decent but you get your hands on them and they are easy enough to spot. The feel of a real watch is nice. You can tell it's quality and the movement inside has to be with around 6 seconds a day acurate to conform to COSC. Other wise it will not be classed as a chronometer. Me personally, I just love watches and would rather buy a quality time piece than a fake. A fake can set you back hundreds even when advertised as fake and resale value is f all. Mine will hold a fairly decent value now for quite some years as not only did I get it a little bit cheaper it's also a desirable model. Not rare but a bit iconic.

    A lot of people that like to show off buy fakes.

    I don't understand people that moan about expensive watches. They are extremely collectible and like all walks of life they can either be cheap or expensive. If you don't like them then don't buy them and definitely don't moan about them on a thread for them.

    People can spend their own money on whatever they like at the end of the day and imo you can't beat the look of a quality time piece. They ooze class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    Poor old Jeremy's got divorced???

    I wonder who got to keep the jewellery?
    According to Bob they both did, and one of them works Monday, Weds, Friday and the other Tuesday Thursday on alternate weeks or something like that. He says he quit because it was a case of "I don't agree with this, you tell that man to do x y z Bob". Could be sales crap - I was waiting for my glass of champers and all the paperwork at the time :-)

    There's a small independent clock and watch shop in Winchester just down from the Stable and opposite Gieves and Hawkes. They have an original Heuer Monaco from 1960something in there at the moment and a lovely Mark 1 Rolex Submariner with a green bezel. Anyway, he was saying there is an American company making fake watches now with real movements basically to allow owners to keep the real watch in the safe and wear the fake (like hanging a reproduction painting on the wall). They can copy any watch in the world but it's 5 grand give or take for the fake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by so22saint View Post
    According to Bob they both did, and one of them works Monday, Weds, Friday and the other Tuesday Thursday on alternate weeks or something like that. He says he quit because it was a case of "I don't agree with this, you tell that man to do x y z Bob". Could be sales crap - I was waiting for my glass of champers and all the paperwork at the time :-)

    There's a small independent clock and watch shop in Winchester just down from the Stable and opposite Gieves and Hawkes. They have an original Heuer Monaco from 1960something in there at the moment and a lovely Mark 1 Rolex Submariner with a green bezel. Anyway, he was saying there is an American company making fake watches now with real movements basically to allow owners to keep the real watch in the safe and wear the fake (like hanging a reproduction painting on the wall). They can copy any watch in the world but it's 5 grand give or take for the fake...
    5000?

    At that price somebody will end up faking the fakes.

    Thanks for the update, very interesting.

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    Not sure why anyone would be stupid enough to spend 5k on a fake watch. That's ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitey Grandad View Post
    5000?

    At that price somebody will end up faking the fakes.

    Thanks for the update, very interesting.
    This Rolex made 135k , there will be people trying to configure spares to maek this up

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    As an aside, watches have been one of the best, liquid small investments I have made over the years. If you buy small run unusual chronometers then so far they've always gone up. Having said that 2017 is a year of oversupply as the Chinese have stopped buying and the Superrich are in for the 130k jobs as above so if it'll remain a good haven who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydie View Post
    As someone who used to work in the watch trade, Goldsmiths despite the large, national brand are quite actually quite good and have a wide selection, however if you are after a better deal wise, go to Parkhouse (assuming you are near Southampton) as easier to negotiate a lower price there. I've got a Breitling Superocean Heritage myself, and quite prefer them over rolex as the movement is better (again probably i'm biased but, meh) but if purchsaing a second nice watch i'd look at Bell and Ross (because they look cool) or Omega.
    I can confirm that goldsmiths are decent, picked up a Tag automatic Calibre from them, good service and lots to choose from.




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    Eyeing up a diving watch next!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    This Rolex made 135k , there will be people trying to configure spares to maek this up
    Unlikely, province is everything on these pieces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    Unlikely, province is everything on these pieces.
    How long do you think it would take to knock up a Perry Greaves receipt, a couple of blurry photos and a lovely story when 135k is at stake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    How long do you think it would take to knock up a Perry Greaves receipt, a couple of blurry photos and a lovely story when 135k is at stake?
    No time at all.

    Just don't expect anyone to actually believe it / resell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    No time at all.

    Just don't expect anyone to actually believe it / resell it.
    You wish
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Provenance-.../dp/0143117408
    http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/20...-investigation
    http://www.timelessluxwatches.com/re...m-fake-watches

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    This is why museums throughout the world have loads of fakes in them.

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    Just added a Rolex Seadweller 4000 Ceramic to the stable. Something to wear to the beach.

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    Mine cost 14 from Tesco - tells the same time as anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    Just added a Rolex Seadweller 4000 Ceramic to the stable. Something to wear to the beach.
    Each to his own, but that makes me think 'brand victim' not 'wow'

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    I wear an Omega Seamaster and have for years. Beautifully proportioned watch that is delightfully understated.

    Very often, less is more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    Each to his own, but that makes me think 'brand victim' not 'wow'
    Certainly a brand victim and would probably agree it's not 'wow' either.

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    #BrandVictim


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    Quote Originally Posted by St Chalet View Post
    #BrandVictim

    Love your sea dweller but that Daytona is a proper stand out watch, quite rare and hugely sort after although I prefer the black ceramic face. Btw did you see the old man that took his original GMT master on the antiques road show?

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    St Chalet. Check this video out. Bloke really had no idea.

    https://youtu.be/li0mRLcGbU8

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    Have seen it before, but it's worth watching again just to see the fella's reaction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buctootim View Post
    Each to his own, but that makes me think 'brand victim' not 'wow'
    Rolex make over 2000 watches a day, with Coca Cola Rolex are one of the slickest marketers in the world
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    Currently into 70s watches. Have a LeCoultre from same era back in blighty.


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