Ronald Koeman Joins Everton - CONFIRMED

In any other job it would be grounds for an employment practices claim - bullying and potentially intimidation

Not necessarily , if it was a one off then tempers can get a bit heated but it doesn't necessarily constitute bullying and intimidation. However if there was a pattern of this behaviour then it could be classed as Bullying . In a football sense then could not the fans be held accountable for this behaviour when our team are playing total ****e.

It would interesting to see what an ET would make of it

he will be announced with his blue scarf by tuesday afternoon apparently.

thank god this will all be over

you have to admire (and laugh) at Saints for up'ing the negative spin around Koeman with the 'snippets' that have surfaced from a few people

he will be announced with his blue scarf by tuesday afternoon apparently.

thank god this will all be over

 

 

you have to admire (and laugh) at Saints for up'ing the negative spin around Koeman with the 'snippets' that have surfaced from a few people

This is all working out exactly as we planned it.

Okay then Les. Okay then.

This is all working out exactly as we planned it.

 

Okay then Les. Okay then.

it has worked. people hate him other than for the obvious reason of leaving (which is fine for footy fans to be fickle like that)

now it is because he is a bully and is making one of the backroom staff move house

Good video on the (stupid) big club argument, Everton and Saints.

it has worked. people hate him other than for the obvious reason of leaving (which is fine for footy fans to be fickle like that)

now it is because he is a bully and is making one of the backroom staff move house

Yeh but it's now not all about the money, is it (so the mythology would run).

 

Good video on the (stupid) big club argument, Everton and Saints.

Who gives a f**k?

In any other job it would be grounds for an employment practices claim - bullying and potentially intimidation

If someone is being a bit of a **** in my workplace, I'm going to do it. He's paid to do a job, very well paid. If he isn't doing something he's been asked, he had every right to tear into him.

If someone is being a bit of a **** in my workplace, I'm going to do it. He's paid to do a job, very well paid. If he isn't doing something he's been asked, he had every right to tear into him.

Good luck with that

Yeh but it's now not all about the money, is it (so the mythology would run).

The truth is no doubt somewhere in the middle.

I'm still of the opinion that if RK didn't wish to sign an extension then the club would have replaced him to avoid the "dead duck" scenario.

Not necessarily , if it was a one off then tempers can get a bit heated but it doesn't necessarily constitute bullying and intimidation. However if there was a pattern of this behaviour then it could be classed as Bullying . In a football sense then could not the fans be held accountable for this behaviour when our team are playing total ****e.

 

it

Not under employment law

Not under employment law

Do you think Matt Targett is going to raise a grievance against his manager or Southampton Football Club?

If someone is being a bit of a **** in my workplace, I'm going to do it. He's paid to do a job, very well paid. If he isn't doing something he's been asked, he had every right to tear into him.

As a builder I have slowly learnt that I shouldn't do that and that I should give encouragement even when I finally fk them off. Even on site you're not supposed to insult, shout at or hit people. A slow evolution but it even effects construction. ?

This is all working out exactly as we planned it.

 

Okay then Les. Okay then.

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Who gives a f**k?

you could reply like that to every post you ****ing mong.

i said it was stupid. Just sharing a video I thought other people would want to see.

**** witt

Roy Keane ahead of RK in the Everton odds ?!

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/everton/next-permanent-manager

you could reply like that to every post you ****ing mong.

 

i said it was stupid. Just sharing a video I thought other people would want to see.

 

**** witt

No you didn't, you said "good video", you massive f*cking helmet.

you could reply like that to every post you ****ing mong.

 

i said it was stupid. Just sharing a video I thought other people would want to see.

 

**** witt

No you didn't, you said "good video", you massive f*cking helmet.

Ladies, ladies.

I saw 15 secs of the video - it was shît.

Roy Keane ahead of RK in the Everton odds ?!

 

https://m.oddschecker.com/m/football/football-specials/everton/next-permanent-manager

Sorry but 1/100 from out of nowhere!!! You'd only get that if someone lumped a ****ing **** load on him or if it was a mistake.

It wouldn't surprise me if Les Reed knows Jack Schitt.

The Roy Keane bet is just someone telling their mate to lay a wedge on RK and them getting the wrong one

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The Roy Keane bet is just someone telling their mate to lay a wedge on RK and them getting the wrong one

 

 

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Maybe they need to look elsewhere now and don't want to waste money on the RK tracksuits they've splashed out on?

Maybe they need to look elsewhere now and don't want to waste money on the RK tracksuits they've splashed out on?

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It wouldn't surprise me if Les Reed knows Jack Schitt.

Nobody knows Jack Schitt.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3500831/Erwin-Ronald-Koeman-father-Martin-proud-Southampton.html

‘I think we need to be patient. You can spend more money for even better players, but everyone has more money. And the high-quality players like to go to Man United; they don’t come to Southampton, they don’t come to Everton.’

Still, the Koemans are enjoying the current state of play in the Premier League. ‘Everyone likes the Premier League because we are not like Paris Saint-Germain — champions three months before the end of the season. There is no emotion. Football needs to be emotional. In the Premier League, it’s unpredictable and that’s nice.’

And, doubtless, dad would have approved as well.

Hmm doubt he'd approve now !

Another repeat from Martin Samuel in the Mail tomorrow....

Saints so blasé

There is a lot of whistling to keep the spirits up at Southampton. The club are letting it be known that they are not as troubled by Ronald Koeman's departure, as they were by Maurico Pochettino's two summers ago.

They knew players wanted to follow Pochettino — they are not convinced the same is true of Koeman. Then again, it was not long ago that Southampton were briefing how relaxed they were by Everton's interest in their manager.

So blase, indeed, that they did not even have a pre-emptive board meeting about it. After all, why would Koeman leave for an inferior club?

Southampton have managed the adversity of recent years so well that it must seem easy. Players come and go, chief executives and managers, too, yet the club continue to thrive. They are well set up, with a good academy and very efficient in the transfer market. The mood around Koeman's exit, however, feels closer to complacency.

Far from not losing players, it appears likely Victor Wanyama and Graziano Pelle will go — and while Pelle lost form in the second half of last season, he will still need to be replaced.

Sadio Mane will also attract offers and how he views them may depend on arrivals and departures. Whatever unfolds, it is going to be another season of transition and if clubs the size of Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham have struggled with that in recent years, it could certainly catch up with Southampton.

Arsenal and United have a size that makes them immune to a significant change in circumstances, but Southampton are among the new big clubs built from smaller old ones. A few bad calls could do serious harm, and they have no reason to presume clear passage.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3638002/Sorry-England-stuck-playing-catch-Luis-Suarez-Gareth-Bale-scruff-neck-match-winner.html

The Roy Keane bet is just someone telling their mate to lay a wedge on RK and them getting the wrong one

 

 

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That book could never exist. 1/20 and 1/100 for same event is a nonsense.

1/20 is 95% likelihood -if the book is over 100% bookies win. So even if had that and say 3 other candidates at say 10/1 (~10%) would be higher percentage than average book (~125%).

Another repeat from Martin Samuel in the Mail tomorrow....

 

Saints so blasé

 

There is a lot of whistling to keep the spirits up at Southampton. The club are letting it be known that they are not as troubled by Ronald Koeman's departure, as they were by Maurico Pochettino's two summers ago.

 

They knew players wanted to follow Pochettino — they are not convinced the same is true of Koeman. Then again, it was not long ago that Southampton were briefing how relaxed they were by Everton's interest in their manager.

 

So blase, indeed, that they did not even have a pre-emptive board meeting about it. After all, why would Koeman leave for an inferior club?

 

Southampton have managed the adversity of recent years so well that it must seem easy. Players come and go, chief executives and managers, too, yet the club continue to thrive. They are well set up, with a good academy and very efficient in the transfer market. The mood around Koeman's exit, however, feels closer to complacency.

 

Far from not losing players, it appears likely Victor Wanyama and Graziano Pelle will go — and while Pelle lost form in the second half of last season, he will still need to be replaced.

 

Sadio Mane will also attract offers and how he views them may depend on arrivals and departures. Whatever unfolds, it is going to be another season of transition and if clubs the size of Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham have struggled with that in recent years, it could certainly catch up with Southampton.

 

Arsenal and United have a size that makes them immune to a significant change in circumstances, but Southampton are among the new big clubs built from smaller old ones. A few bad calls could do serious harm, and they have no reason to presume clear passage.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3638002/Sorry-England-stuck-playing-catch-Luis-Suarez-Gareth-Bale-scruff-neck-match-winner.html

A lot of words to say nothing.

That book could never exist. 1/20 and 1/100 for same event is a nonsense.

 

1/20 is 95% likelihood -if the book is over 100% bookies win. So even if had that and say 3 other candidates at say 10/1 (~10%) would be higher percentage than average book (~125%).

does betfair conform to those rules? it's a service that simply matches punters and offers together isn't it?

Another repeat from Martin Samuel in the Mail tomorrow....

 

Saints so blasé

 

There is a lot of whistling to keep the spirits up at Southampton. The club are letting it be known that they are not as troubled by Ronald Koeman's departure, as they were by Maurico Pochettino's two summers ago.

 

They knew players wanted to follow Pochettino — they are not convinced the same is true of Koeman. Then again, it was not long ago that Southampton were briefing how relaxed they were by Everton's interest in their manager.

 

So blase, indeed, that they did not even have a pre-emptive board meeting about it. After all, why would Koeman leave for an inferior club?

 

Southampton have managed the adversity of recent years so well that it must seem easy. Players come and go, chief executives and managers, too, yet the club continue to thrive. They are well set up, with a good academy and very efficient in the transfer market. The mood around Koeman's exit, however, feels closer to complacency.

 

Far from not losing players, it appears likely Victor Wanyama and Graziano Pelle will go — and while Pelle lost form in the second half of last season, he will still need to be replaced.

 

Sadio Mane will also attract offers and how he views them may depend on arrivals and departures. Whatever unfolds, it is going to be another season of transition and if clubs the size of Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham have struggled with that in recent years, it could certainly catch up with Southampton.

 

Arsenal and United have a size that makes them immune to a significant change in circumstances, but Southampton are among the new big clubs built from smaller old ones. A few bad calls could do serious harm, and they have no reason to presume clear passage.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3638002/Sorry-England-stuck-playing-catch-Luis-Suarez-Gareth-Bale-scruff-neck-match-winner.html

What a vacuous article from the fat pompous pr ick.

Probably took him 5 mins to knock up.

does betfair conform to those rules? it's a service that simply matches punters and offers together isn't it?

No idea how they work but there is a science to bookmaking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_of_bookmaking

No idea how they work but there is a science to bookmaking.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics_of_bookmaking

sure

i'm not sure whether betfair functions as a single entity or even a co-ordinated bookmaker though.

No you didn't, you said "good video", you massive f*cking helmet.

A good video on the stupid argument. You blind c unt.

Dont watch it, do watch it, I don't give a ****. I just shared it.

you can go back to acting all hard on a online forum now. You're so good at it.

The ITK post explicitly states his source wouldn't reveal our top two manager targets but then gives out all the other info...ergo...this information 'leak' has to some extent been green lit by the club. This means the ITK is telling the truth as far as he is aware but we have no idea of how factually correct and non biased the sources information is.

I like the story though so I'm buying into it.

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Your talking complete nonsense - this would be the best shout as it would likely keep Koeman out of the perm for a while. Everton will have to go for another manager and then Koeman would move to some one else. We need to keep teams like Everton well behind us if we want to progress - so stifling them with this and then them having to make do with their 4/5th choice.

 

Also he ****ing deserves it for doing a lallana - leave with class, a la schneiderlin.

Schneiderlin played with class but he certainly didn't leave with it.

Arsenal and United have a size that makes them immune to a significant change in circumstances

United are so huge, of course, that they were totally immune to losing Ferguson, hell, hardly anybody noticed he'd gone.

More big club bolacks we're all getting a bit fed up with.

Another repeat from Martin Samuel in the Mail tomorrow....

 

Saints so blasé

 

There is a lot of whistling to keep the spirits up at Southampton. The club are letting it be known that they are not as troubled by Ronald Koeman's departure, as they were by Maurico Pochettino's two summers ago.

 

They knew players wanted to follow Pochettino — they are not convinced the same is true of Koeman. Then again, it was not long ago that Southampton were briefing how relaxed they were by Everton's interest in their manager.

 

So blase, indeed, that they did not even have a pre-emptive board meeting about it. After all, why would Koeman leave for an inferior club?

 

Southampton have managed the adversity of recent years so well that it must seem easy. Players come and go, chief executives and managers, too, yet the club continue to thrive. They are well set up, with a good academy and very efficient in the transfer market. The mood around Koeman's exit, however, feels closer to complacency.

 

Far from not losing players, it appears likely Victor Wanyama and Graziano Pelle will go — and while Pelle lost form in the second half of last season, he will still need to be replaced.

 

Sadio Mane will also attract offers and how he views them may depend on arrivals and departures. Whatever unfolds, it is going to be another season of transition and if clubs the size of Manchester United, Arsenal and Tottenham have struggled with that in recent years, it could certainly catch up with Southampton.

 

Arsenal and United have a size that makes them immune to a significant change in circumstances, but Southampton are among the new big clubs built from smaller old ones. A few bad calls could do serious harm, and they have no reason to presume clear passage.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3638002/Sorry-England-stuck-playing-catch-Luis-Suarez-Gareth-Bale-scruff-neck-match-winner.html

He'll probably manage to annoy Everton fans with that as well by suggesting we're actually a big club now

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3500831/Erwin-Ronald-Koeman-father-Martin-proud-Southampton.html

 

‘I think we need to be patient. You can spend more money for even better players, but everyone has more money. And the high-quality players like to go to Man United; they don’t come to Southampton, they don’t come to Everton.’

 

Still, the Koemans are enjoying the current state of play in the Premier League. ‘Everyone likes the Premier League because we are not like Paris Saint-Germain — champions three months before the end of the season. There is no emotion. Football needs to be emotional. In the Premier League, it’s unpredictable and that’s nice.’

 

And, doubtless, dad would have approved as well.

 

Hmm doubt he'd approve now !

Wow - he will have some explaining to to do the bluenoses

Martin Samuel repeatedly shows that he is a reporter rather than a journalist. Maybe to some there is no difference, but to me a reporter repeats what he gets told, while a journalist will actually find their own details/story. That bit saying Saints is blasé is just utter rubbish. Unconcerned that RK is leaving (presuming he does) is not being blasé. You do not go from L1 to where we are by being complacent. That Samuel doesn't understand the ethos of SFC says more about him than us. He sees RK as some messiah (well, maybe that is OTT) but like I have said over the months as opposed to jumping on the bandwagon, the biggest shame is that no academy players have come through. Rather than saying we are blasé, why doesn't Samuel ask why the club was upset that MP left but not when RK is - surely that is a very pertinent point! A journalist would ask that question and go and find the answer. A reporter wouldn't.

All Martin Samuel wants is for people to talk about his articles. Job done from his point of view.

if that stuff about the club not liking RK and all his methods is true, then why did they offer him a contract extension?

All Martin Samuel wants is for people to talk about his articles. Job done from his point of view.

So do you when you publish your "facts" on here.

As its a "newspaper" of coures that`s what he wants...thats the point of the rags

Interesting read and I'm sure a lot of it has some truth, but struggle to believe how if Koeman is such a **** hated by so many at the club that he managed to coax such a great run of results from the players at the end of the season - W7 D1 L1 in last 9 games!

Not hated by all. And you certainly don't have to be popular to get results. Just look at Cortese's time with us.

if that stuff about the club not liking RK and all his methods is true, then why did they offer him a contract extension?

Maybe Reed was told he had to. He doesn't have 100% control of the club yet. Or maybe all of the spin that comes from his camp is not 100% true.

if that stuff about the club not liking RK and all his methods is true, then why did they offer him a contract extension?

Maybe because he achieved 7th and 6th places in difficult circumstances. He has done a great job here and even if they weren't happy with some of his methods why wouldn't you want to keep for for another couple of years? How odd would it have looked if they had just said goodbye under these circumstances. Perhaps you should be asking yourself instead of why offer him an extension, why not do more to keep him?

If someone is being a bit of a **** in my workplace, I'm going to do it. He's paid to do a job, very well paid. If he isn't doing something he's been asked, he had every right to tear into him.

As Chelsea have just found out to their cost. There are ways of going about performance issues.

Some of the ****** they are coming out with to try to tarnish Koeman's image is pathetic. Man United fans must be extremely grateful that Sir Alex Ferguson never shouted at any of his young players or they'd never have won all those trophies, would they?

Nordic, I have to question your sagacity if you cannot see a difference between shouting and belittling.

And...tarnishing an image. Who at the club has come out with that? Could you name me ONE person who has? Just one who has been pathetic?

Some of the ****** they are coming out with to try to tarnish Koeman's image is pathetic. Man United fans must be extremely grateful that Sir Alex Ferguson never shouted at any of his young players or they'd never have won all those trophies, would they?

Except that isn't really what's happening. RK has done a good job and is a good manager, that's why we offered him a new deal. We also know though that for a while now there have been issues the board weren't completely happy with, it was posted on here in January. They aren't making stuff up and releasing it now, these rumours have been around for months and months

If Koeman was such a knob then it's strange we offered him a new contract.

I prefer managers that get results instead of being nice to get on with.