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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    I am pretty sure shurlock is none other than Gavyn Davies, or he thinks he is. Either way, being a multimillionaire socialist economist who gave advice to Jim Callaghan and Gordon Brown must be a p!$$ stain on anyone's CV, however much he made out of the Goldman Sachs flotation. If I'm right, an even bigger p!$$ stain is coming on a football forum and acting like an arrogant tool.
    Anyway, I'm convinced he's that famous old Tauntonian and he is no longer Herbert to me, but Gavyn, a walking demonstration of why socialists make sh!t economists....
    But Gavin is a multi multi millionaire. He is richer than even you. I thought that being a multi millionaire excused everything in your eyes ... even flunking your A levels and going to Pompey Poly.

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    Meanwhile, here:
    A clutch of global banks and investment houses are preparing for a British economic boomlet and a potentially explosive rise in sterling, betting that elections will finally break the eternal deadlock over Brexit. The pound has risen 6pc from bargain-basement lows to a six-month high near $1.30 since Boris Johnson clinched a deal with the EU, but currency experts think it remains massively undervalued and could vault much higher with the right catalysts. “Sterling is off to the races if we get a Withdrawal Agreement and a government with a working majority at last. It could move a long way to $1.45,” said David Bloom, HSBC’s veteran currency strategist. “A lot of investment has been mothballed because of uncertainty but we could see those mothballs wither away quickly once there is clarity. It could be radical.” HSBC estimates that fair value for sterling ranges from $1.45 to $1.60 under any plausible measurement.
    Boris playing a blinder, Gavyn having a mare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    Meanwhile, here:

    Boris playing a blinder, Gavyn having a mare...
    I thought the argument from Shurlock was that currency would rise of we had a deal. That's we've said all along?

    Confused as to where you think you're correct?

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    ........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    Meanwhile, here:

    Boris playing a blinder, Gavyn having a mare...
    Just a propaganda piece from the Torygraph.
    Ifs, buts, and maybes, gambling on the outcome of the GE. "If there is clarity", but that depends on just one potential GE result. ( Unless, of course, they know something about the result that is being kept from the wider public ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    I am pretty sure shurlock is none other than Gavyn Davies, or he thinks he is. Either way, being a multimillionaire socialist economist who gave advice to Jim Callaghan and Gordon Brown must be a p!$$ stain on anyone's CV, however much he made out of the Goldman Sachs flotation. If I'm right, an even bigger p!$$ stain is coming on a football forum and acting like an arrogant tool.
    Anyway, I'm convinced he's that famous old Tauntonian and he is no longer Herbert to me, but Gavyn, a walking demonstration of why socialists make sh!t economists....
    Well if he is Gavyn Davies it would account for his knowledge regarding the EU and its workings. In that case he would have dealt in Billions but there is a fundamental difference he was using somebody else's money, not quite so difficult.

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    Happy 'Mark Francois Exploding day'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnersaint View Post
    Happy 'Mark Francois Exploding day'.
    Shouldn't there be rioting on the streets today?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit...it-is-blocked/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post


    1. Get rid of the traitors in the party - done
    2. Replace sheep in wolves clothing with loyal Conservatives - done
    3. Unify the party - done
    4. Go to the EU with a freedom charter - done
    5. Taunt a divided Marxist dominated Labour, joke of a party during the run up - done
    6. Call an election -done
    7. Message: The People vs Parliament - done
    8. Arrange a deal with Nigel - DENIED
    9. Win a substantial majority - odds-on
    10. Watch Corbyn, Labour and the EU project sink without a trace - odds on


    Like I said, playing a blinder.
    Boris, continuing to play a blin...oh.

    Now that's a bit awkward, isn't it? Wonder where the majority of Brexit voters will vote now, as we all know they were voting for "No Deal", because they knew what they were voting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    Well if he is Gavyn Davies it would account for his knowledge regarding the EU and its workings. In that case he would have dealt in Billions but there is a fundamental difference he was using somebody else's money, not quite so difficult.
    Yeah...
    Last edited by Guided Missile; 01-11-2019 at 08:18 PM. Reason: Posting b0ll0x after a drink or two...

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    Happy Halloween...


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    Nice pic Jeff. What happened, did everyone leave as soon as you walked in as they knew you would bore them to tears with reasons to remain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston Super Saint View Post
    Nice pic Jeff. What happened, did everyone leave as soon as you walked in as they knew you would bore them to tears with reasons to remain?
    I'm surprised you're not calling it racist, considering you don't seem to understand what racism is.

    Either way, that's not me, it's a random. I would never post a picture of me on the internet if I was that small and weedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I'm surprised you're not calling it racist, considering you don't seem to understand what racism is.

    Either way, that's not me, it's a random. I would never post a picture of me on the internet if I was that small and weedy.
    I thought you were about 5ft 5ins so I was told

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    I thought you were about 5ft 5ins so I was told
    Don't worry Nick, despite his protestations we all know that really is Jeff having bored everyone else to go home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    I thought you were about 5ft 5ins so I was told
    Is that what your missus told you?
    Last edited by Unbelievable Jeff; 03-11-2019 at 07:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weston Super Saint View Post
    Don't worry Nick, despite his protestations we all know that really is Jeff having bored everyone else to go home!
    You got us that police incident number yet buddy? We're still waiting for you to prove that you're not a coward and a racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    Is that what your missus told you?
    wow the short man syndrome kicks in lol

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    Jesus, this is becoming just another thread of the same people sniping and making cheap digs at each other. This is a political discussion, why do you need to start making it so personal and nasty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Jesus, this is becoming just another thread of the same people sniping and making cheap digs at each other. This is a political discussion, why do you need to start making it so personal and nasty?
    The thread is about a potential free trade deal with the US....

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    wow the short man syndrome kicks in lol


    I was just wondering where your intel was from? Add 10 inches and you're just about there...
    Last edited by Unbelievable Jeff; 04-11-2019 at 10:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Jesus, this is becoming just another thread of the same people sniping and making cheap digs at each other. This is a political discussion, why do you need to start making it so personal and nasty?
    People just seem to like sniping on here unfortunately - all I did was put up a light-hearted Halloween picture and people start throwing insults. It's the Brexiteer way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post


    I was just wondering where your intel was from? Add 10 inches and you're just about there...
    You must have grown a tad as someone from here pointed you out at SMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    The thread is about a potential free trade deal with the US....
    Not on this page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    You must have grown a tad as someone from here pointed you out at SMS.
    Come on mate, there's only one person being"small" here. Give it a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    You must have grown a tad as someone from here pointed you out at SMS.
    I think that someone (or yourself) may be getting confused? I'm making my first trip to St Mary's in 4 years next weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I think that someone (or yourself) may be getting confused? I'm making my first trip to St Mary's in 4 years next weekend...
    It was about 3 years ago, but I think it was when you had your former user name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    Come on mate, there's only one person being"small" here. Give it a rest.
    you can go away. UJ has said some pretty revolting things to some posters on here, making pretty disgusting comments aimed at posters whose wives are seriously ill, and never showed any remorse for doing so ( not in my case thankfully) SO wind your neck in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    It was about 3 years ago, but I think it was when you had your former user name.
    Well, I don't think that was me, especially if that person was 5ft 5in - only 3 people on this forum know me so can't believe we have an acquaintance in common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    Well, I don't think that was me, especially if that person was 5ft 5in - only 3 people on this forum know me so can't believe we have an acquaintance in common.
    Fair enough then, my mistake or the lad who poited you out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I think that someone (or yourself) may be getting confused? I'm making my first trip to St Mary's in 4 years next weekend...
    Fancy a drink Jeff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    you can go away. UJ has said some pretty revolting things to some posters on here, making pretty disgusting comments aimed at posters whose wives are seriously ill, and never showed any remorse for doing so ( not in my case thankfully) SO wind your neck in.
    Woah, calm down there Nick, no I didn't. I made an off the cuff comment and that person revealed that his wife had been ill. Don't make it sound like I knew the situation beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Fancy a drink Jeff?
    Love one. Perhaps we can talk about the threats you made against my kids on Twitter then? I'll have one of them with me so you can tell her what you wanted to do to her to her face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    Woah, calm down there Nick, no I didn't. I made an off the cuff comment and that person revealed that his wife had been ill. Don't make it sound like I knew the situation beforehand.
    at no time showed any remorse or apology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    at no time showed any remorse or apology.
    Remorse for what - an off the cuff comment which was blatantly untrue (and everyone knew that), against someone who I don't know, but had been insulting both Arabs and Jews? Give it a rest. This is like when Goatboy got asked to apologise for talking about someone's wife getting fingered.

    Happy to apologise to his wife though.
    Last edited by Unbelievable Jeff; 04-11-2019 at 12:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    you can go away. UJ has said some pretty revolting things to some posters on here, making pretty disgusting comments aimed at posters whose wives are seriously ill, and never showed any remorse for doing so ( not in my case thankfully) SO wind your neck in.
    I just think perhaps you can take all the personal stuff over to the special thread. It's all irrelevant here. There must be a better place to just post insults and snipes at each other. The whole "he started it" thing just makes it all more true. Do you guys have to go on and on name calling and saying nasty personal stuff page after page?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norwaysaint View Post
    I just think perhaps you can take all the personal stuff over to the special thread. It's all irrelevant here. There must be a better place to just post insults and snipes at each other. The whole "he started it" thing just makes it all more true. Do you guys have to go on and on name calling and saying nasty personal stuff page after page?
    I've never said anything nasty or personal about OldNick - he quite clearly has an issue with me but no idea what I've done to him to deserve that reaction.

    But yes, perhaps it's best if he wants to continue his tirade against me to do it on the Kindergarten Thread, here:

    https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthre...7#.XcA3U2Snw0M

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    You mean the bitcoin that I completely avoided and expressed scepticism about on the other thread? Good lad.

    Sterling a buying opportunity?

    Note to oneself: do the exact opposite that GM is advocating and stick the life savings on it
    ...and Gavyn Davies aka shurlock does the exact opposite that GM advocated and his Fulcrum Multi Asset Trend Fund (a pure trend-following fund that invests across commodities, equities, currencies, and fixed income) loses 15.2% of its value in one year. Luckily, it was someone else's life savings that Gavyn aka shurlock used, to short sterling. Not expecting him to post a reply, though. Since I outed Taunton's finest, he's in hiding, hoping his investors don't notice his arrogance on this thread and the mediocre returns across all of his funds and the billions he's "managing". Easy money, this fund management malarky...ask Neil Woodford
    Last edited by Guided Missile; 04-11-2019 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I've never said anything nasty or personal about OldNick - he quite clearly has an issue with me but no idea what I've done to him to deserve that reaction.

    But yes, perhaps it's best if he wants to continue his tirade against me to do it on the Kindergarten Thread, here:

    https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthre...7#.XcA3U2Snw0M
    Perhaps you should not mention other peoples family in postings. I have backed you up in the past and in the main I am pretty even handed in my opinion. I agree with Norway that the personal stuff if not called for. If Whelk has thrown stuff at your family who are innocent to all our ramblings on here then that is out of order. If people want to insult me that's fine.
    Anyway move on Brexit is a disaster for both sides as there is now no winner whatever happens. The whole nation is a loser and IMHO all down to a certain man not having a fatality in a single engine plane crash. Had that had a different outcome this would not be a one issue election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    ...and Gavyn Davis aka shurlock does the exact opposite that GM advocated and his Fulcrum Multi Asset Trend Fund (a pure trend-following fund that invests across commodities, equities, currencies, and fixed income) loses 15.2% of its value in one year. Luckily, it was someone else's life savings that Gavyn aka shurlock used, to short sterling. Not expecting him to post a reply, though. Since I outed Taunton's finest, he's in hiding, hoping his investors don't notice his arrogance on this thread and the mediocre returns across all of his funds and the billions he's "managing". Easy money, this fund management malarky...ask Neil Woodford
    If Shurlock really is Davies it is a shame if he has left, as irritating as he could be he was also a very good well informed poster. If anybody has any of Davis' e-mails and he ends them with Pal then you are correct GM

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    Quote Originally Posted by shurlock View Post
    Party of Business

    UBS Wealth Management: 'Main threat' to sterling is Tory election win"
    Sterling has recovered a bit in recent days after hitting its lowest level against the US dollar since a flash crash three years ago. But UBS Wealth Management is out with a note today reminding investors that the direction of travel could easily change.
    Mark Haefele, the group's chief investment officer, notes that the "main threat to sterling’s recovery is if [Boris] Johnson’s Conservative party were to win with a majority in an early election."
    "They could then overturn the legislation requiring them to ask for an extension, increasing the threat of leaving without a deal," he said.
    He notes that a no-deal Brexit could send the British currency sinking back from around $1.23 today to $1.15 "or even lower."

    From the FT.
    Just to tidy up a few loose ends, Gavyn "the Sage of Wandsworth"...
    UBS Wealth Management has told its clients to start investing in UK assets on an “unhedged” basis for the first time in years. “It is a sign of improved confidence,” said Geoffrey Yu, head of its UK investment office.
    The Swiss bank says fair value is $1.56 under its purchasing power parity model but is sticking to a target of $1.36 over the next year until there is more clarity. “Sterling is in a holding pattern. The market has priced out no-deal but we still don’t know what the deal is,” he said.
    Stephen Jen, founder of Eurizon SLJ and an adviser to Asian sovereign wealth funds, said the commentary on Brexit has been far too negative but the tide has now turned. “The psychology on sterling has reversed. Years from now people are going to be looking back and shaking their heads, asking how it ever got so low,” he said.
    “We think $1.40 to $1.45 is completely within reach by the end of this year. The more lopsided the vote in favour of the Conservatives, the higher it will go because that means they can push through a long-term strategy. A move to $1.50 is easy with the right policies,” he said.
    Mr Jen said the exchange market still has a structural “short” position on the pound that could exceed £100bn if counted properly. “Corporate treasuries are still massively short because they had to be. Their bosses told them they had to be hedged against a no-deal. They have only just begun to cover. The rally we have seen so far is nothing,” he said.
    Societe Generale, Danske Bank, and Swedbank all have targets of $1.40 by September of next year. Morgan Stanley is betting on $1.38, and Italy’s Unicredit on $1.37. The benign scenario assumes that the elections deliver a “market-friendly” government, code in financial circles for the resounding defeat of Jeremy Corbyn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    Perhaps you should not mention other peoples family in postings. I have backed you up in the past and in the main I am pretty even handed in my opinion. I agree with Norway that the personal stuff if not called for. If Whelk has thrown stuff at your family who are innocent to all our ramblings on here then that is out of order. If people want to insult me that's fine.
    Anyway move on Brexit is a disaster for both sides as there is now no winner whatever happens. The whole nation is a loser and IMHO all down to a certain man not having a fatality in a single engine plane crash. Had that had a different outcome this would not be a one issue election
    The point is I don't know his family, it was an off the cuff comment to a faceless entity on a forum, but it seems strange that you side with the person that has said on here that they dislike Arabs and Jews. You may not be aware of that, but I would say that is far worse than what I wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guided Missile View Post
    Just to tidy up a few loose ends, Gavyn "the Sage of Wandsworth"...
    If Shurlock is/was Gavyn Davies, then frankly that just adds further weight to his postings on here - if you have ever read any of his Guardian blogs (which I had to in the mid 00's when doing the statistics part of my degree) or any of his macro comments for the FT, then you will realise what a good mind he is.

    Of course, he may not be.


    In relation to the two posts above, they are written from different viewpoints, the top one written from a position of "Tories are going to take us down the no-deal route" which is what was originally thought, and the second on the position of "Boris will push ahead and get a deal approved".

    As with every article, and every opinion put forward on here, it is about context, and that context, as ever, is DEAL or NO DEAL. If we have a deal then sterling will do better, if we don't it will plummet.

    And don't worry, Gavyn will have made a ****ing fortune off of shorting the pound as I'm pretty sure he said he backed out of a number of his positions a few weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    I think that someone (or yourself) may be getting confused? I'm making my first trip to St Mary's in 4 years next weekend...
    Fancy a drink Jeff?

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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...after-election

    so
    No 10 blocks Russia EU referendum report until after election ... nothing corrupt there then !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbelievable Jeff View Post
    If Shurlock is/was Gavyn Davies, then frankly that just adds further weight to his postings on here - if you have ever read any of his Guardian blogs (which I had to in the mid 00's when doing the statistics part of my degree) or any of his macro comments for the FT, then you will realise what a good mind he is.

    Of course, he may not be.


    In relation to the two posts above, they are written from different viewpoints, the top one written from a position of "Tories are going to take us down the no-deal route" which is what was originally thought, and the second on the position of "Boris will push ahead and get a deal approved".

    As with every article, and every opinion put forward on here, it is about context, and that context, as ever, is DEAL or NO DEAL. If we have a deal then sterling will do better, if we don't it will plummet.

    And don't worry, Gavyn will have made a ****ing fortune off of shorting the pound as I'm pretty sure he said he backed out of a number of his positions a few weeks ago.
    Shorting the pound may make speculators money but to do so they cost the wealth of others. When the pound was under the cosh on Black Friday? all those years ago I could have made a bit but I couldn't do so as I felt it was morally wrong and costing the man in the street who were powerless. Davis is obviously a smart operator, but not always right. Shame he didnt give us a few tips when he was on here lol but of course he's not allowed to.
    As for your earlier post re family, I now accept that you do regret your off the cuff remark, but you should have apologised at the time and were very reticent to do so. Perhaps in future you should refrain form bringing other members of posters families into your debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whelk View Post
    Fancy a drink Jeff?
    by the look of it I doubt it. If he is with his daughter I expect he wont want to go into a pub or confront an 'old friend'

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldNick View Post
    by the look of it I doubt it. If he is with his daughter I expect he wont want to go into a pub or confront an 'old friend'
    I'm surprised he hasn't seen that I've accepted his invite. As said, I want to discuss his conduct towards me and my family on Twitter.

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    Getting back to the subject on the card - are we nearly there yet?

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    I’m Gavyn Davies.

    Or David Dein.





















    Or Micky Fialka.

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